Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Shenstone done

2014-08-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
I fixed one more. -- Matthijs On 12 August 2014 09:17, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers Rob. One fixed, 2 noted for check and one note to data added. Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 August 2014 23:48 To: Andy Robinson Cc: OSM Group

[Talk-GB] Where to cross boulevards, and how to map it

2014-08-12 Thread Stuart Reynolds
Hi Here in Southend I have a number of boulevards - dual carriageways with large central grassed/tree areas. In some cases there are quite clearly defined crossing points, and often there will be fences down the middle of the road (especially outside schools) to prevent people using anything

Re: [Talk-GB] Where to cross boulevards, and how to map it

2014-08-12 Thread SK53
By chance I mapped a couple of crossings at the junction of Southchurch Boulevard Thorpe Hall Avenue (http://osm.org/go/0EGQ1kp6R--). The first is not marked on the roadways, but is an asphalt path across the central reservation. The second has zebra crossings on both carriageways and a footway

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.

2014-08-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi Richard, I am working my way around the canals of Britain, tracing the canal banks and tidying up locks etc. Your work is really welcome and as someone with a particular interest in the British canals I'm glad to see it taking place. In terms of playing nice with the OSM community, rather

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.

2014-08-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
Some very good tips there RichardF. Don't be fooled by the siren voices of the wiki. What's in the database is valid because it's formed by consensus. To come to the defence of the wiki (yes, there's a lot wrong with it, but there are also some good people putting in a lot of effort), it's

[Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Philip Barnes
We have discussed this subject a couple of times and have, I think, concluded that displaying the ref (generally only known to local government people) on roads that are unsigned is not helpful to the end user. Some, but I suspect not all, of the thread starts are below.

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread Tom Hughes
On 12/08/14 20:18, Rob Nickerson wrote: Example 1 Flat 2 8 Something Road, Town, ... addr:flatnumber=2 addr:housenumber=8 addr:street=Something Road (I don't normally tag anything beyond the street) Example 2 6, The Hollies, Birmingham Road, Town, ... Hard to say without knowing what

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 August 2014 20:18, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The standard for representing addresses in Britain is BS7666 It's worth comparing that with the (international) vCard standard: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6350.txt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCard used by

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread Will Phillips
Hi, I think we could do with a wiki page dedicated to tagging UK addresses and covering how to tag the more complicated cases. The problem at the moment is that there has been little discussion and no consensus about certain situations such as tagging parent/subsidiary streets. I have been

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
On 12 August 2014 21:43, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 12/08/14 20:18, Rob Nickerson wrote: Example 2 6, The Hollies, Birmingham Road, Town, ... Hard to say without knowing what The Hollies is exactly, but this is probably a case that we don't have a good answer for at the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread Will Phillips
On 12/08/2014 22:46, Derick Rethans wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Tom Hughes wrote: On 12/08/14 20:18, Rob Nickerson wrote: Example 1 Flat 2 8 Something Road, Town, ... addr:flatnumber=2 I actually have used addr:flat here before (and addr:unit for slightly related things in like parades).

Re: [Talk-GB] UK addresses

2014-08-12 Thread SK53
Two things: - I was emphatically told by people who know that the BS enables describing much more than mere postal addresses. In other words PAON, SAON etc., are not merely for building number flat number. - Some of the issues you raise were discussed at last Friday's Open

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Andrew Hain
Philip Barnes phil@... writes: I am going to use the horrible word, mechanical edit, but I feel it needs sorting out. I propose that nothing is removed, but the ref tag for tertiary and unclassified is moved to official_ref. This will retain the data and allow OSM to be used by those who

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Loach
After previous discussions I've already changed the C road references that I mapped (from roadworks signs) to official_ref, so your suggestion seems sensible. I feel ref should be reserved for (permanently?) signposted references. Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Will Phillips
This is a widespread problem and I wouldn't oppose a mechanical edit in this case. The one concern I have is the rare cases where C road references really do appear on signs, but perhaps even then official_ref is appropriate. Similarly, some rights of way references appear on signs: I recall

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Norris
Ignoring the source information for now, but I suspect it is very similar to rights of way information in that it is probably derived from OS maps. The following overpass query highlights the issue, Norfolk standing out as especially bad. This is just tertiary roads, there are issues with

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.

2014-08-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Don't be fooled by the siren voices of the wiki. What's in the database is valid because it's formed by consensus. What's on the wiki too often isn't. Any fool can invent their own scheme, write this is how you do