Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-21 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, By the way, hope your hand is better now. Yes, it's getting better. The cast was removed last Monday and, although I still have another 4-5 weeks to go before they declare me apt for combat, I should be able to start typing again with both hands soon. Thanks :) -- Best

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Steven, On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV The other three weeks I'm out of town and would love to use SPV something like Voyager if it could contain a complete copy of what SPV was in TB when I left, and then update TB to what's in Voyager when SPV I return. Just

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:24:07 +0200 GMT (20/10/2006, 16:24 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: SPV The other three weeks I'm out of town and would love to use SPV something like Voyager if it could contain a complete copy of what SPV was in TB when I left, and then update TB to

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, Or: When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? -- Best regards, Miguel A.

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread M belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? That's a debatable one as Maxim asked folks to test 3.86.03 only 3 days ago! -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the TF server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. That's my preferred method. I do the same with TB! because it saves on writing sent

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:33:38 +0200 GMT (20/10/2006, 23:33 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: TF When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the messages on the TF server. When you get back home, just download the messages as usual. RW That's my preferred method. I do the same

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Thomas, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF That's the case here too. But a wish is in the list: Missed that one so have now added my support. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA (beta) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 1.7.0.0 | Windows XP (build 2600)

Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Steven P Vallière
Thomas, Friday, October 20, 2006, 11:20:15 AM, you wrote: RW Do the reverse when you get home. TF Or: When using Voyager, BCC to yourself, and leave the TF messages on the server. When you get back home, just TF download the messages as usual. That's often three to four hundred messages PER

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Steven, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPV especially since most are SPAM. Try AntispamSniper. It deletes spam on the server and has a very high accuracy rate for me. It also is designed to run with both TB! and voyager. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.86.03

Easier administration tasks (was: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager)

2006-10-20 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Thomas, on Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:47:48 +0700GMT, you wrote: TF ... a wish is in the list: TF https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003319 This wish has somehow escaped my attention. Thanks for the reminder. It belongs in the same category as

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread MAU
Hello Richard, M Nothing personal to you or anyone but, don't you guys think this thread M belong in TBUDL and not in TBBeta? That's a debatable one as Maxim asked folks to test 3.86.03 only 3 days ago! Everything is debatable my friend, even if beer is good or not ;) But the message

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello MAU, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M But the message starting this thread was sent some 7 hours before Maxim M asked to test Voyayer 3.86.03 and provided a link to it. And the M 'Activation limit' being discussed does not refer to something M introduced or changed

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard, On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:01:53 +0200 GMT (21/10/2006, 00:01 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: TF That's the case here too. But a wish is in the list: RW Missed that one so have now added my support. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. ROBOTRON: Unsere Mikroelektronik ist die

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:12:35 +0700 GMT (18/10/2006, 08:12 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an

Re[3]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-19 Thread Steven P Vallière
Vili, Monday, October 16, 2006, 1:43:55 PM, you wrote: I agree, I myself wasn't aware of this limitation until it came up in this thread. V I agree with Krzysztof also. Online users should be warned V PRIOR the sale. That only sounds fair, or at a minimum something in the install procedure

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-18 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 06-10-17 (17:46), you wrote: I think that is enough. IMVHO it is not enough. b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure of extending limitation in question. I can't see why one should need mor than 5 activations. You should talk with customers who need it.

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-17 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Krzysztof! a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they download software; Ah, I got informed that I have 4 of my 5 activations left, when I installed my Voyager. I think that is enough. b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:19:06 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 14:19 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH nothing to say against your arguments. For sure. Thanks. As I know you know a lot about computers, this is an appreciated compliment. TF In what situations and on whose computers to you use

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-17 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:47:53 +0200, Peter Hampf wrote: My back-up is the webmail, which I hate. So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an Internet Cafe,

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-17 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:01:30 +0200, Peter Hampf wrote: Anyway, for what it's worth: Forte Agent is the perfect portable solution for mailing in an Internet Cafe. Have you ever tried it in cafes with the above mentioned restrictions? Good luck! That's one of the two reasons why I wrote: for

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Arjan, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:42:00 +0200 GMT (18/10/2006, 01:42 +0700 GMT), Arjan de Groot wrote: So do I - but in those situations (Internet cafe) it's often the only solution, simply because you are not allowed to run any program file. That would be pretty boring. Sitting in an

Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Vili
Hello Krzysztof, That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) Yes. times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. I know It's probably reason to make this limitation. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking to extend the activation number... Hmmm

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 2006-10-15 (19:57), you wrote: What is uncomfortable in it? Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send a message with description, next RITs must evaluate this, next RITs must reset 'counter' per user to offer next activation. More: RITs must have

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Krzysztof, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:48 +0200 GMT (16/10/2006, 22:38 +0700 GMT), Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: What is uncomfortable in it? KK Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send [...] I think I'm with Vili on this one. A limitation makes sense.

Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Vili
Hello Krzysztof, What is uncomfortable in it? Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send a message with description, next RITs must evaluate this, next RITs must reset 'counter' per user to offer next activation. More: RITs must have very detailed

Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Vili
Hello Thomas, What is uncomfortable in it? KK Necessity to make a plenty of manual intervetions - first: user must send [...] I think I'm with Vili on this one. A limitation makes sense. The question is whether 5 is enough. A registered user of TB Pro can use Voyager on five USB sticks.

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vili, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:43:26 -0400 GMT (16/10/2006, 23:43 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V If it adds something to the statistics: no Hungarian user ever V reported to me that they used up the 5 licenses... Not even small V companies with 1-user license purchased... That's

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 2006-10-16 (17:51), you wrote: A limitation makes sense. No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they download software; b. RITs sould provide some explicit and user-friendy procedure

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Krzysztof, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:23:10 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 00:23 +0700 GMT), Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: A limitation makes sense. KK No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: KK a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they KK

Re[2]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Vili
Hello Thomas, A limitation makes sense. KK No doubt, it makes sens. I don't deny it. I only suggest two ponits: KK a. users of Voyager should be warned about the limitation before they KK download software; I agree, I myself wasn't aware of this limitation until it came up in this

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:03:29 +0200GMT, you wrote: PH This is not a solution for Ritlabs, but a solution for the user: PH I use Voyager on a virtual drive. Software that provides encrypted virtual PH discs are for example Ritlabs Thebat Private Disk or Truecrypt. PH Now I'm going to

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:03:47 +0200GMT, you wrote: PM AFAIK, Voyager depends on the volume-ID of the particular drive. If it's PM different from the previous one, a new activation is required. PH Correct. But the VolId does not change when mounting the virtual disc, no PH matter which

Re[4]: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Vili
Hello Peter, V You have used up your 5 chances. It is also uncomfortable for Ritlabs. V But if you know a better way to handle users who activates Voyager V more than 5 times, please explain that. I dont... This is not a solution for Ritlabs, but a solution for the user: I use Voyager on

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Vili, Monday, October 16, 2006, 1:22:23 PM, you wrote: I dont get it... If it is a virtual drive, a software must be installed on the host PC, right? But then you have to carry/install the VD software into all PCs you are using, and install prior Voyager... right? Portable Freeware

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Peter, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:39:38 +0200 GMT (17/10/2006, 04:39 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH You can carry the VD software on the USB stick as well as the image. You PH call it from there and mount the virtual drive. That's it. PH The only drawback is that you usually need admin

Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-15 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
'Activation Limit Exceeded' error during activation of Voyager... How to deal with this situation? Best regards, Krzysztof Kudłacik -- pb _, )\__/( ,_ Polska Strona Programu The Bat! | /'.;`-.`{..}',-';.`\ http://thebat.pl | /'.'; `-,`--',-' ;`.`\ The

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-15 Thread Vili
Hello Krzysztof, 'Activation Limit Exceeded' error during activation of Voyager... How to deal with this situation? That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-15 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 2006-10-15 (16:47), you wrote: That means that the same key was used to activate Voyager 5(?) Yes. times... It can be an _indication_ of software piracy. I know It's probably reason to make this limitation. Contact Ritlabs and explain the situation asking to extend the

Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager

2006-10-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ian A. White everyone else, on 15-Okt-2006 at 23:04 you (Ian A. White) wrote: When was activation introduced? IIRC it was part of the Voyager installation right from the start, because Voyager doesn't write to the registry of the local machine (or at least it shouldn't:-) it cannot