[Texascavers] French climber to scale 300m chinese cave wall :

2007-11-14 Thread JerryAtkin
French "Spiderman" returns to scale Chinese mountain CHANGSHA, Nov. 14 (Xinhua) -- A French daredevil will climb a central China mountain on Sunday, his latest stunt after scaling a Shanghai skyscraper illegally earlier this year. French "Spiderman" Alain Robert arrived in Changsha

Re: [Texascavers] Photoshop

2007-11-14 Thread JerryAtkin
I believe any photo can usually be improved with a bit of touch up; whether you did it in the dark room in the olden days, or in PhotoShop at present is irrelevant. You are still working with a single exposure in which the photons that were captured, document an instant in time that was s

Re: [Texascavers] Photoshop

2007-11-14 Thread Chris Vreeland
I use Photoshop to some degree on all my cave shots. You can brighten underexposed areas & bring out detail, you can darken overexposed areas, & generally improve the quality of the final image with a little work. It's just the fake over-saturation of colors that weren't that bright in the

[Texascavers] Photoshop

2007-11-14 Thread Mixon Bill
Yes, a few of those photos from Brazil are rather garish. In fact, though, in a couple of cases it looks like a less-edited version of the same scene is in the set. They also appear, as least on screen, to have been overly enthusiastically sharpened. Nevertheless, I've sent that URL on to U

[Texascavers] Paging Will Rupley -

2007-11-14 Thread Don Cooper
Please contact off list for any contact information. -WaV

[Texascavers] Houston borehole

2007-11-14 Thread BMorgan994
Once upon a time I made the mistake of visiting Houston. I think it might have been 1989. I wrote a story about it called "A business trip to Texas". Here is an excerpt: "Houston is a microcosm of all our urban sins, a Los Angeles about to happen saved from critical mass only by the oil slu

[Texascavers] RE: Digital (cave) Photography

2007-11-14 Thread Minton, Mark
Scott Nicholson said: >Does anyone out there have any feedback/suggestions as I make the leap into >the digital photography world?? A really nice, small camera for quick point-and-shoot underground is the Pentax Optio WP and its successors the W10 and W30

RE: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Ted Samsel
You missed my joke.. I use Photoshop everyday,, & adobe illustrator.. & ARCGIS.. & sometimes ERDAS I do web pages & computer cartography everyday.. -Original Message- From: Louise Power Sent: Nov 14, 2007 12:18 PM To: Ted Samsel , Chris Vreeland Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Simon Newton
There are some interesting light techniques, that when used with digital cameras, can produce some amazing photos without massive strobes/lights/etc. I'm sure people on the list have seen "360 Degrees of Lechuguilla Cave" computer tour that came out recently ( http://www.360parks.com/lechuguilla_c

RE: [Texascavers] Digital (cave) Photography

2007-11-14 Thread Louise Power
Last summer I bought myself a Canon PowerShot A630. Don't know how it is in caves since I don't cave any more, but it's great for outdoor and indoor shots and has a lot of bells and whistles which will take me some time to, if not master, at least get the hang of. Cost on sale less than $300.

[Texascavers] Digital (cave) Photography

2007-11-14 Thread Scott Nicholson
Since the current topic is (Cave) Photography I'm finally upgrading/updating my camera setup from film to digital. I've used Canon/Pentax/Nikon 35mm SLR gear for many years...and I'm in the middle of the learning curve about Digital SLR cameras. I've almost decided on the Nikon D200.

[Texascavers] RE: Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Minton, Mark
Louise Power said: >Perhaps NSS just ought to ban enhanced photos in the competition. Or limit >enhanced photos to another category. I believe that is already the case, isn't it (separate category)? From : CATEGORIES - Classificat

Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread CaverArch
Louise, I agree completely, and I've used Photoshop for some of the same reasons you have - most importantly personally to improve the legibility of scans of many 19th and early 20th century family letters and other documents. The program helped enormously in scanning the journal kept by one o

RE: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Louise Power
Ted, You are wrong, wrong, wrong. If you worked in desktop publishing as I do and had to make publishable photos out of other people's c*** or if you needed to restore fragile family photos, tintypes, etc, that are just barely visible because of time or deterioration, you'd fall on your knees

Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Ted Samsel
Death to Photoshop -Original Message- >From: Chris Vreeland >Sent: Nov 14, 2007 7:57 AM >To: David Locklear >Cc: "speleoste...@tx.rr.com" , Texas Cavers > >Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos > >I've gotta agree somewhat. While the composition is excellent, and a >lot of w

Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Gregg
Hi, It's always been about lighting. Partly that's what you can afford. Partly its how much time it takes to set things up. If you think about it, most indoor flash pictures of people are crap, and that's despite the fact that most of a person is usually at one distance from the camera whe

[Texascavers] House with a Cave

2007-11-14 Thread Linda Palit
Cavers, I f you are looking for a house in SA and have the bucks, this one is gorgeous and the cave is nice - about the size of my living room with a couple of dig leads off if I remember correctly. Last time I was in the cave it was being used as a playhouse for the kids. Contact me if you want

Re: [Texascavers] Fellows of the NSS

2007-11-14 Thread speleosteele
As Carl said, it's not too soon to be thinking about nominating people for 2008, but it's close to too late. The deadline is Nov. 15, which happens to be tomorrow. Today's the day, folks. Bill Carl Kunath wrote: > No, it's not two years in a row, but there have been gaps even worse t

Re: [Texascavers] Good cave photos

2007-11-14 Thread Chris Vreeland
I've gotta agree somewhat. While the composition is excellent, and a lot of work went into setting up those shots, someone needs to lay off the over-saturation a bit. (a lot) I've noticed that's a trend lately with cave photography, and photography in general -- get a good picture, then jac