[Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Looks to me like the climbers are climbing seriously karsted bedrock in the cave entrance, not on formations. Still, there are cavers who will fuss. Why on earth is that magazine using Flash to put nearly illegible issues on the web? There are easier and better ways. What's wrong with

Re: [Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The photo that looks like the climber is on formations is on page 46. At least to me, it looks like the type of very old, weathered formations one often sees around large cave entrances. My guess is that they didn't want people to be able to easily make copies of the magazine, which

[Texascavers] Rock Climbers in China Caves

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The March, 2012 issue of the climbing magazine Rock and Ice has an article (p. 44-54) about rock climbers climbing in some of the enormous caves in China. They are depicted climbing on formations in one photo. These caves are so huge that they might not do much damage other than

texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 -0000 Issue 1552

2012-05-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 - Issue 1552 Topics (messages 20004 through 20016): Re: Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion 20004 by: Mark Minton 20005 by: Butch Fralia 20006 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 20007 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion

2012-05-19 Thread freddie poer
It is nice to know that NCKRI is in favor of recreational caving. Some cavers have actually told me that they thought NCKRI would become part of the federal govt. conglomerate and therefore limit or ban caving in some areas except for research purposes. I am sure that we will all be glad that

[Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Looks to me like the climbers are climbing seriously karsted bedrock in the cave entrance, not on formations. Still, there are cavers who will fuss. Why on earth is that magazine using Flash to put nearly illegible issues on the web? There are easier and better ways. What's wrong with

Re: [Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The photo that looks like the climber is on formations is on page 46. At least to me, it looks like the type of very old, weathered formations one often sees around large cave entrances. My guess is that they didn't want people to be able to easily make copies of the magazine, which

[Texascavers] Rock Climbers in China Caves

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The March, 2012 issue of the climbing magazine Rock and Ice has an article (p. 44-54) about rock climbers climbing in some of the enormous caves in China. They are depicted climbing on formations in one photo. These caves are so huge that they might not do much damage other than

Re: [Texascavers] Rock Climbers in China Caves

2012-05-19 Thread dirtdoc
Before you all get frosted up, my view of it is that this is a big non-issue.   And if someone should disagree, there is also nothing you can do about it.     All over SE Asia (China, Vietnam, Laos, and elsewhere) much of the best rock (and most accessible) climbing is on limestone.  

texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 -0000 Issue 1552

2012-05-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 - Issue 1552 Topics (messages 20004 through 20016): Re: Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion 20004 by: Mark Minton 20005 by: Butch Fralia 20006 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 20007 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion

2012-05-19 Thread freddie poer
It is nice to know that NCKRI is in favor of recreational caving. Some cavers have actually told me that they thought NCKRI would become part of the federal govt. conglomerate and therefore limit or ban caving in some areas except for research purposes. I am sure that we will all be glad that

RE: [Texascavers] Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion

2012-05-19 Thread George Veni
Freddie wrote: “It is nice to know that NCKRI is in favor of recreational caving. Some cavers have actually told me that they thought NCKRI would become part of the federal govt. conglomerate and therefore limit or ban caving in some areas except for research purposes. I am sure that we will

[Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mixon Bill
Looks to me like the climbers are climbing seriously karsted bedrock in the cave entrance, not on formations. Still, there are cavers who will fuss. Why on earth is that magazine using Flash to put nearly illegible issues on the web? There are easier and better ways. What's wrong with

Re: [Texascavers] rock climbing in China cave

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The photo that looks like the climber is on formations is on page 46. At least to me, it looks like the type of very old, weathered formations one often sees around large cave entrances. My guess is that they didn't want people to be able to easily make copies of the magazine, which

[Texascavers] Rock Climbers in China Caves

2012-05-19 Thread Mark Minton
The March, 2012 issue of the climbing magazine Rock and Ice has an article (p. 44-54) about rock climbers climbing in some of the enormous caves in China. They are depicted climbing on formations in one photo. These caves are so huge that they might not do much damage other than

Re: [Texascavers] Rock Climbers in China Caves

2012-05-19 Thread dirtdoc
Before you all get frosted up, my view of it is that this is a big non-issue.   And if someone should disagree, there is also nothing you can do about it.     All over SE Asia (China, Vietnam, Laos, and elsewhere) much of the best rock (and most accessible) climbing is on limestone.  

texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 -0000 Issue 1552

2012-05-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 May 2012 23:05:05 - Issue 1552 Topics (messages 20004 through 20016): Re: Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion 20004 by: Mark Minton 20005 by: Butch Fralia 20006 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 20007 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion

2012-05-19 Thread freddie poer
It is nice to know that NCKRI is in favor of recreational caving. Some cavers have actually told me that they thought NCKRI would become part of the federal govt. conglomerate and therefore limit or ban caving in some areas except for research purposes. I am sure that we will all be glad that

RE: [Texascavers] Past, Present, and Future of THE TEXAS CAVER - A Discussion

2012-05-19 Thread George Veni
Freddie wrote: “It is nice to know that NCKRI is in favor of recreational caving. Some cavers have actually told me that they thought NCKRI would become part of the federal govt. conglomerate and therefore limit or ban caving in some areas except for research purposes. I am sure that we will