[time-nuts] Datum/Symmetricom BC637 series GPS/Timing Cards

2016-05-02 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
In February Microsemi announced the release of version 8 software (firmware) for these cards, intended to resolve some problems caused by the GPS module, which was at one time anyway a Trimble Ace 3. I have been trying to download this firmware from Microsemi but they no longer accept my S

Re: [time-nuts] Datum/Symmetricom BC637 series GPS/Timing Cards

2016-05-02 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
I now have a copy of this firmware upgrade courtesy of another list member, and just wanted to say a public thank you. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In February Microsemi announced the release of version 8 software (firmware) for these cards, intended to resolve some problems caused by the GPS

[time-nuts] MSF 60KHz Problems?

2016-05-03 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Is anyone else seeing anthing unusual with the MSF 60KHz signal from Anthorn? For the past 24 hours or so, at least, all I've been monitoring here, approx 100 miles from Anthorn, is what seems to be a much weaker than usual carrier that's pulsing at significantly faster than once per second

Re: [time-nuts] MSF 60KHz Problems?

2016-05-03 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Thanks to all who've commented on this. All the reports I've received have suggested that MSF is behaving normally and I've taken a closer look at my antenna system, where I've found more loss at 60KHz than expected in the multicoupler I've been using. With this bypassed and a stronger sig

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A GPS discipline board on sale now

2016-05-22 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Nick, This looks very interesting but just wondering, will there be an option for end users to reprogram the board themselves just in case there does turn out to be any bugs in the software, and if so would you be making updates available? Regards Nigel GM8PZR _

Re: [time-nuts] HP 53132A ROM issue

2016-12-27 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Colin, All the 5313x counter basic oscillators are indeed extraordinarily poor, and I've always assumed that their only purpose was to demonstrate that the unit was basically functional. A couple of years ago I upgraded a 53132A with serial prefix 3546 from firmware version 3403 to 461

[time-nuts] HP53132A Firmware Version 4613

2016-12-27 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
I have just uploaded this firmware to Didier's (KO4BB) manuals site so it should be available for download in the near future. Regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m

[time-nuts] HP53132A Firmware Version 4613

2016-12-28 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
How similar are the 131A and the 132A ? Is it possible to upgrade a 131 into 132 ? --- Interesting question! I suspect not, not in any straightforward fashion anyway, but I'm sure others would know better than me. >From a quick look at the component level service manuals the har

[time-nuts] ADEV query Timelab and TICC

2017-03-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Yesterday I used one of John's excellent TICC modules for the first time and initially set up a quick test using the 10MHz output from a Thunderbolt as the frequency reference to measure the 1PPS from an Oscilloquartz Star4 GPSDO, with the TICC output feeding a USB3 port on a Windows 10 PC r

Re: [time-nuts] ADEV query Timelab and TICC

2017-03-20 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Many thanks for the replies on this, what was initially intended as a quick "Hello World" test seems to have become far more interesting:-) I'll forward my results to Tom as requested and see where we go from there. Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts maili

[time-nuts] HP 5090A Frequency Standard manual available

2017-03-31 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
I've just uploaded a pdf version of the HP 5090A Ops and Service manual to Didier's site at. http://www.ko4bb.com For now at least it's also available at https://www.mediafire.com/?u0bf1eips89uo3h The 5090A was an HP product designed in the UK in the early 1960s and was an off a

[time-nuts] HP E1938A question

2017-04-24 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
I've just received an Ebay purchased E1938A, haven't tested it yet although I do have a 14 day return option, but unlike previous purchases of these the serial number label is missing from the rear of the PCB so I have no obvious way of knowing if the crystal is matched to the PCB. Does any

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938A question

2017-04-25 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
how to make the software do this anymore. I knew at one time, but have long forgotten. Rick N6RK On 4/24/2017 5:41 AM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts wrote: > I've just received an Ebay purchased E1938A, haven't tested it yet although > I do have a 14 day return option, but unl

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938A question

2017-04-26 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
r. There was some way to > then set the oven to this temperature. I don't know if anyone > currently knows how to make the software do this anymore. > I knew at one time, but have long forgotten. > > Rick N6RK > > On 4/24/2017 5:41 AM, GandalfG8--- via

[time-nuts] Anthorn eLoran

2017-05-09 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Is anybody monitoring eLoran from Anthorn? I'm less than 100 miles from the transmitter but an FS700 has been unable to find the signal for several days. Last time this happened though it turned out to be a local antenna problem so I didn't want to cry wolf until I found time to take a clo

[time-nuts] Anthorn eLoran

2017-05-09 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Iain Young wrote: I now have all four with green tracking lights, so looks good to go Thanks Iain, Also looking good here now so seems like I cried wolf after all, although very happy it wasn't anything more permanent:-) Nigel, GM8PZR ___ tim

Re: [time-nuts] Anthorn eLoran

2017-05-10 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Yes, noticed here it was off again and am pretty sure you're right about maintenance, just don't remember them starting at 0700 in the past:-) Nigel, GM8PZR In a message dated 10/05/2017 10:58:31 GMT Summer Time, i...@g7iii.net writes: On 09/05/17 20:28, moGandalfG8--- via time-nuts wro

[time-nuts] Brandywine GPS-4 OCXO

2017-05-20 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
I really don't know just how relevant this might be, but some Brandywine products are/were rebadged units from Time and Frequency Solutions in the UK, or perhaps vice versa. I'm not sure if TFS had an equivalent of the GPS4 but certainly both companies sold versions of the GPS8 and the TFS

[time-nuts] Brandywine GPS-4 OCXO

2017-05-20 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Although there doesn't seem to be anything similar in the GPS4 manual, the Brandywine GPS8 manual does carry a table of various oscillator options on page 33. The OCXOs listed there are either from from Milliren or HCD Research. Nigel, GM8PZR Hi, Does someone happen to know what OCXO sit

[time-nuts] HP5090A Off Air Standard Receiver

2017-06-18 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Pete That's quite good timing, if you'll pardon the expression:-), as I uploaded a pdf version of the 5090A manual to mediafire a couple of months ago http://www.mediafire.com/file/u0bf1eips89uo3h/HP_5090A_Ops_and_Service.pdf I know a few others have considered converting the 5090A

[time-nuts] HP5090A Off Air Standard Receiver

2017-06-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
be too much of a problem:-) Nigel, GM8PZR On 06/18/2017 04:17 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts wrote:> I have a 5090B which I'm hoping to get up and running when it finally > reaches the top of the to do list and my view is that it would be much better to > leave the origina

[time-nuts] Halcyon OFS

2017-06-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Clint, There seems to have been very little information available from Halcyon on either the OFS or PFS off air references. All I've seen is the OFS alignment document that Stephen is already sending to you. There were two versions of the OFS1, the later version had similar proportions

[time-nuts] HP5090A Off Air Standard Receiver

2017-06-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
How about building a frequency converter to produce 200KHz; mixing the incoming RF (198KHz) with 2KHz derived from the output of the unit, On 18/06/2017 21:17, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts wrote: > Hi Pete That's quite good timing, if you'll pardon the expression:-), as I uploaded a p

Re: [time-nuts] HP5090A Off Air Standard Receiver

2017-06-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
ing to the carrier I wonder if it'd be possible to use a suitably modified PICDiv clocked from a 'standard' 10MHz GPS locked device like the Lucent? On 19 June 2017 at 14:19, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts wrote: I suppose a converter from 198KHz could be an option but I know

[time-nuts] R&S XSRM Rubidium Standard

2017-09-12 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
A friend of mine has bought a just out of calibration R & S XSRM Rubidium standard from one of the so called "recyclers" on Ebay. Although the price was good, and it came with the off air receiver, phase meter, and frequency divider, it looks to have been heavily decommissioned with delibe

[time-nuts] R&S XSRM Rubidium Standard

2017-09-19 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Thanks for the replies to this, both on and off list. Repairs to the wiring turned out to be fairly straightforward and all now seems to be basically functional, but there still remains the problem of the lamp. I am told that the FRK lamp is not a direct replacement, the base is smaller,

[time-nuts] Programmed Test Sources PTS250

2017-11-17 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
The PTS250 manual is available from mediafire as either a 55MB standard pdf file or a 41MB OCR pdf file. https://www.mediafire.com/file/v8vd4o33d7ta1rd/PTS250.pdf https://www.mediafire.com/file/5hp2hj1la7wws2s/PTS250%20OCR.pdf ___ time-nuts mail

[time-nuts] Programmed Test Sources PTS-x10

2017-11-21 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
The Programmed Test Sources PTS-x10 manual is available from Mediafire http://www.mediafire.com/file/ak193b371mbb3vc/PTS_X10.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ti

[time-nuts] European Electronics Systems Radio Clock Model 100

2017-12-13 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Does anyone have a service manual or any information on the Europeanlectronics Systems (EES) Radio Clock Model 100. The company was part of Siemens but closed down in 2005. The Model 100 was supplied by Plessey Defence Systems to the UK military. Some models could be GPS disciplined Any infor

Re: [time-nuts] European Electronics Systems Radio Clock Model 100

2017-12-15 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
e for accounting purposes and not the engineering / production location). I have several model 100 units and was just about to put one in a timing rack at the museum. Regards Steve G8EBM Original Message Subject: [time-nuts] European Electronics Systems Radio Clock Model 100 From: G

[time-nuts] CSAC Project(was CSAC purchase)

2018-01-25 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Hi The CSAC spec sheet calls out an aging rate of 0.9 ppb per month as “typical”. There is also a temperature spec of 0.4 ppb. If both are correct for your sample (*and* aging is linear ) you would be out by roughly 10 ppb per year. There also is a voltage stability spec that might be impacted

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A OCXO manual trimming

2018-03-06 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Crazy thought.Could you just force a DC offset into the EFC assuming the internal varicap is not out of range. It would be simply adding a resistor to pull up or down to see if you can get a bit of pull and allow the dac to move back in range a bit. Its a band aid. I know its sort of crazy. Bu

[time-nuts] Dual GPSDO - any advantage?

2018-04-10 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Is this auction # 273145006434, actually showing at $9.77 here in the UK, and from a recently registered zero rated seller? If so, and given that the auction text, and perhaps the photos too, seem to be taken from one or more of Bob Mokia's auctions dating back a couple of years or so, and th

Re: [time-nuts] Dual GPSDO - any advantage?

2018-04-10 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Unless I copied the number incorrectly earlier it does seem likely that Ebay has pulled that auction. It may still be showing up to those who "bought" them but a straight search on that number returns nothing, either in completed or running listings, nor does it show up now in searches for "Tri

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-11 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
I've had one of the cheap TruePosition GPSDOs running here for the past week, this is the earlier version with the Bliley oscillator, and as Mark reported have been seeing what I consider to be excessive holdover reports from Lady Heather. At 55 degrees north the number of Sats visible can be a

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-12 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Today using Lady Heather I have observed the TruePostion GPSDO dropping into holdover as the number of tracked sats dropped from four to three. There does seem to be some hysteresis in the system though, the number of tracked sats eventually dropped to two and then the unit came out of holdover

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-13 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Ok, I give up I've been logging this with Lady H and was watching again this afternoon as the sat count dropped but this time there was no dropping into holdover as the number of sats dropped from four to threedamn, it just carried on doing its thing until the count went up again:-) I

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-13 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
The location at 55N, 5W, isn't ideal, there's quite a large hole to the north but this isn't something I've seen here before with any other GPS module or GPSDO. When first noticed I'm sure it was whilst tracking six or seven sats, it was certainly five or more, which is why I commented in the f

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-15 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
op in very quickly ( a second or two), but come out slowly ( many minutes). Local noise can in some cases be enough to put you in holdover. Bob > On May 13, 2018, at 1:13 PM, gandalfg8--- via time-nuts > wrote: > > The location at 55N, 5W, isn't ideal, there's quite

Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-15 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
omething like this might be akin to watching grass grow:-) Nigel, GM8PZR -Original Message- From: Bob kb8tq To: gandalfg8 ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Tue, 15 May 2018 17:44 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues Hi If you a

[time-nuts] TruePosition GPSDO Holdover Issues

2018-05-15 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Hi Hal, and thanks for that. In my case at least there's no problem with making plots from live data as Lady Heather will do that for me, it's just the time taken to collect the data for each plot that could be an issue. I'd just been wondering aloud whether any of the online simulations for

[time-nuts] Trueposition GPSDO CTS version for UK buyers

2018-05-24 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
This is a nice GPSDO but there doesn't seem to be too many about these days compared with the earlier Bliley version, and searching the usual channels from the UK currently seems to brings up just one, Ebay ref 152981122366. 39.99 USD is a pretty good price, and despite being described as used

[time-nuts] Tektronix FCA3103 ADEV measurement tau setting problem

2018-05-29 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
I have a Tek FCA3103 300 MHz counter that measures ADEV as a built in function. When I bring up the settings menu for the measurement, it has an entry window for "tau" (the averaging time, IE "sigma sub y of tau"). It defaults to 200 ms. I can enter larger values and ADEV gives reasonably resu

[time-nuts] Sayrosa 607B Frequency Synthesiser

2018-06-10 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
Perhaps not a very common item, and probably restricted to the UK, but I have seen these mentioned here before. The 607B was a very nice 2 to 30MHz synthesiser used as the drive unit in the UK Diplomatic Service Piccolo radio system. Both Sayrosa and Piccolo are long gone, and information has a

[time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-12 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
This is probably now well past its sell by date but over the years there have been a number of requests here for schematics of the Spectracom 8140T Line Taps as used with the 8140 Frequency Distribution Amp. The standard reply has always been that no schematics were available from Spectraco

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap Schematic

2018-06-14 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
nly make darn sure they had headers fitted before being returned to the box! Nigel, GM8PZR -Original Message- From: Julien Goodwin To: gandalfg8 ; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:36 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8140T Line Tap

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