[time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neither broke it or fixed it. It came back up today at around 10. I had an "interesting" conversation with an advanced tech support supervisor at Centu

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Didier Juges
Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neither broke it or fixed it. It came back up today at around 10. I had an "interes

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Camp
esday, September 01, 2010 12:51 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty is that you will get their bill in the mail on time. Any

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread jimlux
Didier Juges wrote: Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty is that you will get their bill in the mail on time. Any more than that is just gravy... Didier This is the fundamental differe

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Max Robinson
e and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Didier Juges wrote: Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:36:22 -0400 "Bob Camp" wrote: > I had an "interesting" conversation with an advanced tech support supervisor > at Century Link / Embarq. According to this gentleman, their lines are only > guaranteed to pass port 80 traffic (HTTP). Anything other than that is "not > covered

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 "Bob Camp" wrote: > I suspect that it's not an unusual stance. If it is common, it would be > something to think long and hard about in a mission critical timing setup. I don't know about the US, but in Europe such a stance would cost an ISP most of its customer

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread d . seiter
2, 2010 12:36:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 "Bob Camp" wrote: > I suspect that it's not an unusual stance. If it is common, it would be > something to think long and hard about in a mission critical timing s

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Harris
With Verizon Fios, I have had several instances where a storm has knocked out my internet, yet my phone, which uses the same fiber, still works. (Yes, my router was on an ups, and yes the power was on...) The internet usually comes back in a day, or so. Because they have seriously limited the am

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The troubling part of my situation with Century / Embarq is that a hacked router in their plant, doing port forwarding poorly, would do create the issue I saw. The question now is - did they fix it or did the guy doing the forwarding fix his bug? In my case he's going to be sifting through a

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
cy measurement" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:41 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme > > >> Didier Juges wrote: >>> Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do >>> crop up (rare, but it has

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi What the guy was telling me was that they don't want customers who care if there's a connection or not. Since I do care, I won't be a Century Tel. customer much longer. I would have switched on the spot, but reprograming the routers takes a bit of time. Cisco IOS isn't my favorite thing to c

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In this case the company is the legacy monopoly wire line carrier for this area. If you want coper wires you go to them. There is no other choice. They do what ever the government regulators make them do. The supervisor referred to those regulations in about every third sentence. Century a

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
traffic) Go figure... > > Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Attila Kinali" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2010 12:36:56 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extrem

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Q
10 9:36 AM To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neit

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme - microwave oven and WiFi

2010-09-02 Thread Didier Juges
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:36:40 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi If your WiFi is at 2.4 GHz it could very easily be a microwave oven messing thin