--
> A function of birthing a child object would come from attributes found in
the parent object while passing values during creation.
I think somebody has had a little too much Jolt cola...
There are much better environments to do this in, like NetBeans
(www.netbean
Dear Sivakatirswami,
I was brought up on Basic and VB. In VB (VB6 I mean, not VB.NET), the
dot notation is not all that obscure, but nevertheless, after making the
transition to Transcript and its verbosity, the fact that someone might
consider making it more like VB makes my hair stand on end
And some of us don't know anything *but* xTalk, and I'm happy i don;'t
dot notation and such... let's be very careful...find a way to do the
same thing in verbose xTalk and it will live...infect the language
with obscurity and it will die a slow death from the inside out.
If everyone comme
>Mark-
>Sunday, February 26, 2006, 12:36:57 PM, you wrote:
>> Perhaps a few of you around here will find this funny, I could do
>> an implementation of OOPs with a pull-parser. The trick to creating
>> a child object is to assign attributes of the parent object to a
>> child object. What is nee
Dear Rob,
Thanks for the information.
Cheers
John
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Subject: Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
Hi John:
> I am not sure
Mark Wieder wrote:
Rob-
Monday, February 27, 2006, 8:33:04 AM, you wrote:
If we all agree on everything all the time, what a dull, homogenous,
narrow-scoped group we have become.
I shudder to think what would happen if everyone agreed with me. It's
bad enough when *anyone* agrees wit
Rob-
Monday, February 27, 2006, 8:33:04 AM, you wrote:
> If we all agree on everything all the time, what a dull, homogenous,
> narrow-scoped group we have become.
I shudder to think what would happen if everyone agreed with me. It's
bad enough when *anyone* agrees with me...
--
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On 27 Feb 2006, at 15:12, Stephen Barncard wrote:
Integer Basic rocked. It was faster than FP. And with the 'Sweet
Sixteen' 6502 functions by Woz were really useful. I built a lot of
crazy gear for the movie industry with this stuff.
My old favourites were Basic XL on the old Atari 800 (showi
Dear Dan,
In the future, I'll keep my strong opinions to myself.
Please sleep on that thought another night.
Even the best and the brightest and can have a bad day, or find the
path that seems logical viewed differently by others.
If we all agree on everything all the time, what a dull, ho
Hi John:
I am not sure how Revolution ISN't already OO?
I used to feel the same way about HyperTalk: give me an OO concept, and
I'll script something that emulates it.
The difference is, in a true OO language, those concepts are built into
the platform when you open the box.
Rob Cozens
C
Integer Basic rocked. It was faster than FP. And with the 'Sweet
Sixteen' 6502 functions by Woz were really useful. I built a lot of
crazy gear for the movie industry with this stuff.
sqb
I need to stop going to bed. The best posts are while I'm sleeping.
Hey, John, stop hating on Apple FP
On 2/27/06 6:53 AM, "Thomas McGrath III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 01010011 0110 01110010 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111
> 0010 01110100 01101000 01110010 0110 01110101 01100111
> 01101000 0010 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100101 01110011
> 0010 0110 01100110 001000
01010011 0110 01110010 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111
0010 01110100 01101000 01110010 0110 01110101 01100111
01101000 0010 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100101 01110011
0010 0110 01100110 0010 01100010 01101001 01101110
0111 01110010 0001 0010 011
John Vokey wrote:
All,
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. Seriously: what is gained here
that can't be accomplished with either a) copy and paste (my
favourite) or b) object duplication (my next favourite)?
Quote: "If I could change one thing to improve the quality of our code,
it would
I need to stop going to bed. The best posts are while I'm sleeping.
Hey, John, stop hating on Apple FP BASIC! Its predecessor, Integer
Basic, was used from when EPCOT Center in Disney World opened until
almost ten years later to control the spotlights during Laserphonic
Fantasy.
Oh, and while t
Well, certainly Revolution is OO-like, but it's hard for me coming
from a strong OOD/OOP background to see it as a legitimate OO
offering. The number one rule of encapsulation seems "broken" most
of the time in xtalk-like languages. When I have multiple buttons on
a card that have the same beha
> I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.
Kids, don't try this at home... ;-)
Scott
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> in octal on the face of the ``computer'' to initialise the ``boot-
> loader'' so that the machine could get started.
Sometimes I miss converting hex and oct into decimal.
I started my professional career (as opposed to my teenage
programming) programming Data Checker DTS cash registers.
The "
Mark-
Sunday, February 26, 2006, 12:36:57 PM, you wrote:
> Perhaps a few of you around here will find this funny, I could do
> an implementation of OOPs with a pull-parser. The trick to creating
> a child object is to assign attributes of the parent object to a
> child object. What is needed dur
No!
Dan: does not progress occur more often when people disagree than when
they agree?
What is the incentive for progress when everyone is one big mass of
contented, happy campers? (the Rev list comes to mind, for instance: is
it everybody being supremely contented that moves the company to fix
Love conquers all!!
It's a beautiful world today.
sqb
And so I apologize to Dan for having offended him.
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Dan Shafer wrote:
> I have slept on this. I have decided to take the advice of my wife and
--
stephen barncard
s a n f r a n c i s c o
- - - - - - - - - - -
I have likewise refrained from even opening my computer (a laptop) to read
email until now, a good or nearly 24 hours after the initial
conflagration, in order to try to gain some balance and composure and
understanding.
I've got a big mouth, by which I mean to convey that I am an opinionated
indi
It's nice to see some new 'old school' programmers on this list! What
a great perspective...
welcome aboard to this listif you've just been lurking until now..
sqb
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s a n f r a n c i s c o
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Subject: Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
Before Lingo adopted dot notation, it had an interm
All,
I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. Seriously: what is gained here
that can't be accomplished with either a) copy and paste (my
favourite) or b) object duplication (my next favourite)?
I have programmed in virtually every language extant (and many no
longer), including most machine la
Problem is, I don't know of any emoticons that say:
"I make this argument in all sincerity with no covert aspersions on your
character."
Unless you'd like to point me to it, of course (I could so clearly use it
in my "arsenal"...).
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Scott Kane wrote:
>
> > The Secret C
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:45 PM
To: Mark Brownell; How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
Before Lingo adopted dot notation, it had an intermediate parent-child
"xTalk varietal" approach.
Before Lingo adopted dot notation, it had an intermediate parent-child
"xTalk varietal" approach. I've forgotten now how it worked but I
recall it was hard to learn and very slow.
That may or may not have any bearing on this design, however.
On 2/26/06, Mark Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Scott Kane wrote:
>
>>> What do dots enable that
>>> Transcript does not?
>>
>> Properties and methods.
>
>Objects can already have properties, and methods as well. They can't
>have _inherited_ methods -- at least not in the traditional IO sense.
>An object inher
Understood.
Paradox is inevitable. Resolution of paradox leads to new truth. And
that's quite enough philosophizing for me for one day.
:-)
On 2/26/06, jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Dan,
>
> > "Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms"
> > does not seem to me to im
Dan,
> "Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms"
> does not seem to me to imply any claim of superiority, just the very
> differences that you point out. I am sorry if you thought that was an
> embarrassing comment about which I ought to feel some shame.
>
well again my
"Those of us who haved trained our brains to think in those terms"
does not seem to me to imply any claim of superiority, just the very
differences that you point out. I am sorry if you thought that was an
embarrassing comment about which I ought to feel some shame.
But I'm bowing, scraping, and b
I have slept on this. I have decided to take the advice of my wife and
other sages whose wisdom I admire. It is better to be happy than
right. This picture is not who I am or who I want to be, here or
anywhere else.
I sincerely apologize to Judy, and to any member of the list who was
insulted by m
Dude, your rights to post to this list are rapidly diminishing. This
list is MODERATED, and Runrev and the listmom reserve the right to
boot you at any time, for any reason they wish.
I'd say cool it - for the rest of us, and for your own sake, if you
want to get anything out of this list.
P
Hi Garrett,
Ahh, the "Good Ol' Boy" system
No, it's the "family" system.
Some of us began these discussions over 15 years ago on the early
HyperCard lists. We have discussed many on- and off-topic issues over
the years, publicly and privately. We explore off topic issues more
broadly tha
Dan, Richard, et al:
Just
making dot syntax an alternative -- or even implementing OO syntax
using it -- doesn't have to corrupt the underlying Transcript syntax
*except* for those people who choose an OO approach to their Rev
projects.
So dot syntax is optional...UNLESS people choose to use
if you guys allow me to squeeze a few words in this (hot) thread,
I'd like to say that the initial post by Dan Shafer contains a couple of
sentences that I would qualify as, ahem "embarrassing", especially
due to Dan's huge contribution to the xTalk world for many years...
actually it reminds me o
classMyObject:
def __init__ (self):
self.initialize()
def initialize(self):
self._value=None
def _setProperty (self, name, value):
print "set property"
setattr (self, name, value)
def _getProperty (self, name):
print "get property"
> Ahh, the "Good Ol' Boy" system, and since I'm the new kid on the
> block, it's not my place to voice my opinion on something that came
> through this list. But since Judy and Dan are part of the "Good Ol'
> Boy" system, it's ok for them to voice their opinion, even
> have a flame.
<*Sigh
On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Garrett,
From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent
while you have very little history with our list and community, you
are certainly quick to join in the fray.
Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who both
People, this is not cool. Sleep time.
cheers
David
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Garrett,
From the brief readings of your few previous posts, it's apparent while
you have very little history with our list and community, you are
certainly quick to join in the fray.
Both Judy and Dan are respected list members, who both have contributed
over a long time to this list, worth
On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:33 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
At 12:20 AM -0800 2/26/2006, Geoff Canyon wrote:
(g) co-routines
(h) anonymous functions
What are co-routines and anonymous functions? (Curious...)
A co-routine is kind of like a thread except that it only yields time
at certain sp
> The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
> By Stephen Leahy
That's why the :-) ;-) :-( :-O
are so useful... >-)
Scott
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On 26 Feb 2006, at 09:04, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
By Stephen Leahy
"Don't work too hard," wrote a colleague in an e-mail
today. Was she sincere or sarcastic? I think I know
(sarcastic), but I'm probably wrong.
According to recent research publishe
The Secret Cause of Flame Wars
By Stephen Leahy
"Don't work too hard," wrote a colleague in an e-mail
today. Was she sincere or sarcastic? I think I know
(sarcastic), but I'm probably wrong.
According to recent research published in the Journal
of Personality and Social Psy
On Feb 26, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Judy.
I preferred to take this off-llist. You chose to make it a public
fight. I choose not to engage.
I did not intend that anyone would see my comment about paranoia as an
attack on any individual or indeed on any specific position on this
You and me both... for many a year now!!!
'cuz I look really stupid -- no, even stupider than people think I am,
really -- when I offer up to my students Scott Raney's "explanation" that
'it can't be done on Windows'...
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Scott Kane wrote:
>
> > (f) multi-channel sound s
Judy.
I preferred to take this off-llist. You chose to make it a public
fight. I choose not to engage.
I did not intend that anyone would see my comment about paranoia as an
attack on any individual or indeed on any specific position on this
issue. I was referring to the general level of heat
Without personal attacks, (well, as much as is human) my responses are
below:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Dan Shafer wrote:
> Perhaps more to the point, can you name ANY surviving xTalk? Nope.
> They're all pretty much dead except for Transcript. I could argue with
> equal weight and perhaps a tad less
At 12:20 AM -0800 2/26/2006, Geoff Canyon wrote:
(g) co-routines
(h) anonymous functions
What are co-routines and anonymous functions? (Curious...)
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> (f) multi-channel sound support (I put this one in for Scott Rossi)
Ooooh! I'd like that.
Scott
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On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Scott Kane wrote:
What do dots enable that
Transcript does not?
Properties and methods.
Objects can already have properties, and methods as well. They can't
have _inherited_ methods -- at least not in the traditional OO sense.
An object inherits methods fro
On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Would you rather have:
(a) No object orientation
(b) OO with the current syntax with poor performance
or
(c) OO with dot notation and acceptable performance
I'm not saying those are the *only* choices but they're the big ones.
Off the top of my
> Am I the only remaining non-Vulcan??
Live long and prosper. :-)
Scott
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Wishing, indeed, that there was such ensuing 'good humor'... as opposed to
rancour.
:-(
Am I the only remaining non-Vulcan??
Judy
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006, Dick Kriesel wrote:
> Is there a Transcript implementation of dot syntax? Or how do non-dot
> people learn about the benefits of dots? If the
> Is there a Transcript implementation of dot syntax? Or how
> do non-dot people learn about the benefits of dots? If the
> dot folks could wrap the dots within Transcript handlers,
> maybe they could offer a dot library, like libDot. Or could
> a macro language do the trick? What do dots e
Is there a Transcript implementation of dot syntax? Or how do non-dot
people learn about the benefits of dots? If the dot folks could wrap the
dots within Transcript handlers, maybe they could offer a dot library, like
libDot. Or could a macro language do the trick? What do dots enable that
Tra
Judy,
> Creating a .notation of Rev will NOT keep strict x-Talkers
> happy. I may be the most vocal opponent, but I suspect I am
> far, far, from the only one.
Why would a version of a product that you yourself would
never use be something you'd be opposed to? I'm not sure
I follow you...
Che
Dan,
Wait a minute...
*MY* personal insult??? Weren't you the one who dealt my argument the
death blow of being mere "paranoia"? After having personally resurrected
it from irrelevantdom?
Does it get more personal than that? I am paranoid therefore my arguments
need not be considered?
And I
> Wouldn't it be smarter to just leave Rev alone and simply produce
> another standalone product that fits the dot. ideals?
>
> Don't even mix the two at all, just make separate products.
> It would
> be totally asinine to mutilate Rev into some abomination.
Err - that's exactly the intenti
Scott,
Creating a .notation of Rev will NOT keep strict x-Talkers happy. I may
be the most vocal opponent, but I suspect I am far, far, from the only
one.
And, well, probably *everyone's* happy that I'm not in charge... ;-)
Judy
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Scott Kane wrote:
> Judy,
> The Mac end of
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:55 PM, Scott Kane wrote:
[snip]
It's a compromise. X-Talks for those that want it or .notation for
those
that do not. It's not a far stretch as many development platform
Wouldn't it be smarter to just leave Rev alone and simply produce
another standalone product tha
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
My Gosh, Judy, you do get emotional about the strangest stuff. Lighten
up. This is a theoretical discussion about language syntax, not a
public policy decision that could result in the deaths of millions.
Yeesh.
I'll deal with your personal insul
My Gosh, Judy, you do get emotional about the strangest stuff. Lighten
up. This is a theoretical discussion about language syntax, not a
public policy decision that could result in the deaths of millions.
Yeesh.
I'll deal with your personal insult off-list because I don't believe
in responding to
Judy,
I'm not saying this *should* be done, so please take it
in the spirit it is meant, that is pure discussional value.
> Given your list of choices, I'm forced to select (a). When
> you're done, will there be sufficient remaining existing and
> potential users to keep the company afloat?
T
Nonetheless, as a result, Dan,
Lingo became unlearnable/unapproachable from a verbos syntax point of
view. And now it's dead. And, yes, the available books/list syntax
help/whatever played a HUGE part. Handwringing has substantially less to
do with it than the absolute dearth of verbose syntax l
Yes, perhaps (I don't agree, but obviously others would)...
However...
You now have TWO different ways of reading Transcript.
How do you know when and how?
And what if VB syntax gets added? and ... whatever else it is syntax that
people can already do in some other pre-existing perfectly ugly
Dot-syntax blows. xTalk doesn't.
The problem with allowing radically different syntax conventions is
that you may soon wind up with a tool like *CENSORED*, where you can
mix and match the syntaxes of *CENSORED*, and pretty soon ask
yourself, why did I learn *CENSORED* and avoid learning *CENSORED
On 26 Feb 2006, at 02:01, Dan Shafer wrote:
I'm not saying those are the *only* choices but they're the big ones.
So I'd rather have OO with the current syntax and acceptable
performance :)
Mark
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Seems like there's a fair bit of paranoia abroad in this land. Just
making dot syntax an alternative -- or even implementing OO syntax
using it -- doesn't have to corrupt the underlying Transcript syntax
*except* for those people who choose an OO approach to their Rev
projects. Hand-wringing about
On 2/25/06 1:31 PM, "Judy Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amen, Rob.
>
> If it is OO *capabilities* that are desired, then fine: just provide them
> in a natural-language manner (e.g., keep it transparent).
>
> But the language paradigm simply cannot be allowed to be converted from a
> focuse
At 4:25 PM -0600 2/24/2006, Peter T. Evensen wrote:
send "go" to traffic light...
That works for methods, but how about functions?
I have never liked the current transcript syntax of
Value("GetCurrentColor()", TrafficLight).TrafficLight.GetColor()
is much more readable, in my opinion.
Amen, Rob.
If it is OO *capabilities* that are desired, then fine: just provide them
in a natural-language manner (e.g., keep it transparent).
But the language paradigm simply cannot be allowed to be converted from a
focused, internally-consistent one into the mishm-mash of "whatever" (VB
syntax?
I agree. Any extension to transcript should surely be as natural to
it as possible. Adopting non-xTalk-like syntax wholesale from other
languages would make any real OO stuff more like using applescript or
VBScript in Rev, which is fine and useful, but would tend to be
attractive only to th
Hi all--except Mr. X :{(
So if Transcript does go object-oriented -- and I hope and believe it
will, though it may be an alternative fork rather than a forced switch
-- I hope it *does* in fact adopt dot notation so that all of us who
have trained our brains to think in those terms when we c
Judy Perry wrote:
1. It being "optional" didn't stop it from destroying accessibility to
verbose Lingo in Director. Latecomers to Director didn't have any other
learning "options" or "choices" than dot.speak.
Yes, I think that's a danger, especially if a large part of the audience
for boo
1. It being "optional" didn't stop it from destroying accessibility to
verbose Lingo in Director. Latecomers to Director didn't have any other
learning "options" or "choices" than dot.speak.
2. Optional isn't the same as transparent. I'd be less leery if I could
look in a crystal ball and see
On 2/24/06, James Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Objective C (which has some obvious Smalltalk influence)
>does not use dot notation for accessing instance variables.--
Absolutely right. Objective-C is s much cleaner than C++. I
mourned the latter's victory over the former when the
On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
I am an object-oriented programmer by training and disposition. Every
single object oriented programming language that I've used (and I have
admittedly not used them all) with the single exception of Smalltalk
(which I actually think got it right)
Dan Shafer wrote:
I don't recall this being hashed out and finished several times,
Jacque.
Seems to be an annual event. I see two threads in the archives, February
of 2004 and another in August 2005, and now this one. That doesn't seem
like enough to me, I'm pretty sure there were a couple mo
Well maybe one could 'see' an objects functions as properties, like
in Eiffel, or at least in my dim understanding of it.
get the sqrt(9) of mathsObject
Mark
On 24 Feb 2006, at 22:25, Peter T. Evensen wrote:
At 03:58 PM 2/24/2006, Andre Garzia wrote:
So why can't we do transcript-ish thing
Just for the record, I didn't bring this up again. Judy Perry did. I
just moved the discussion to a new thread and offered my opinion.
On 2/24/06, Thomas McGrath III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No not this again
>
> Why does he keep bringing this up?
>
>
> Just po
I don't recall this being hashed out and finished several times,
Jacque. Maybe it's been resolved to YOUR satisfaction, but someone
else raised the issue in another thread, so evidently at least some of
us don't think the issue's been resolved.
Except of course this is all hypothetical BS because
Andre..
While you're not exactly wrong here, you do miss the central
point/issue. To use your example, if I'm designing a traffic system
with lots of TrafficLight objects, I need a way to create individual
instances of that object, give them identifiers, and send messages
either to the individ
In Smalltalk, the basic principle was the use of words parsed left to
right for readability, right to left for precedence of operation.
Parameters were embedded in method calls separated with colons. So,
for example, to create a new instance of a Person object, you would
write something like:
newP
> Richard Gaskin
> Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2006 8:27 AM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
> This is so very non-controversial I'm surprised it comes up again and
> again as such
Agreed. It'd also be a major attraction,
You mean like an object template?
Tom
On Feb 24, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote:
One thought is that they could create some sort of blank object,
with, like
all possible properties that one could think of, that could be set
from the
property inspector - like a universal object.
T
This is exactly the way transcript works now, except that it would allow you
to create custom objects.
But that raises a whole new issue...
How would you define a custom object?
Right now, I use groups to create custom objects, like specialized tables
and the like.
But, say we wanted to define
Thomas McGrath III wrote:
No not this again
Why does he keep bringing this up?
Got me. I thought we'd already finished this conversation several times.
I don't see the point of hashing it out all over again.
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At 03:58 PM 2/24/2006, Andre Garzia wrote:
So why can't we do transcript-ish things like:
set the stopColor of TrafficLight to red
set the interval of TrafficLight to 20 secs
Would there be any reason to distinguish between custom properties and a
object property? If not, I see the above wo
Hey, Andre, I like this!
Phil Davis
Andre Garzia wrote:
Folks,
taking the risk of sounding naive, why can't we deal with objects the
way we deal with custom props?
for example imagine the following Traffic Light object with properties
and methods:
TrafficLight.stopColor --
Folks,
taking the risk of sounding naive, why can't we deal with objects the
way we deal with custom props?
for example imagine the following Traffic Light object with
properties and methods:
TrafficLight.stopColor --- Red
TrafficLight.attentionColor --- Yellow
TrafficLig
At 03:27 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
This is so very non-controversial I'm surprised it comes up again and
again as such
If it keeps causing controversy, isn't it by definition
controversial? ;) (I just couldn't resist)
Peter T. Evensen
http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com
314-629-5248 or 8
No not this again
Why does he keep bringing this up?
Just poking fun,
Tom
I can read dot but have never really 'liked' it.
On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
I seem to have a knack for starting discussion threads that are
probably just close enou
Judy Perry wrote:
OPTIONAL dot.speak I fear will end Transcript's natural-language
orientation.
Regex isn't exactly "natural", but those that use it like that it's
included as an OPTION.
I don't recall anyone saying that RunRev was going to force users to
replace years of legacy code with d
At 03:14 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
I've said it before and will say it again: If true OO is what you really
want, why not just use one of the bazillion OO languages? Once Lingo went
down that route, it ceased to be a learnable language for ordinary humans.
I think there are two issues here, or
At 02:02 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote:
I am an object-oriented programmer by training and disposition. Every
single object oriented programming language that I've used (and I have
admittedly not used them all) with the single exception of Smalltalk
(which I actually think got it right) uses dot notati
What possible competitive advantage does it offer to the company for it to
transform Transcript into yet another bit player in a very major league?
With it being an x-Talk, it offers certain advantages, such as ease of
learning/reading, that are all but nonexistant in your "traditional"
programmin
On 2/24/06 12:14 PM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> .this.that.thatotherthing.IsThisParticularDotSupposedToBeAMethodOrAnObject.Sh
>> ootMeNow
My vote would be that the option to use dot notation would be quite welcome.
I, too, use programs that become much simpler and functional that
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