Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-20 Thread Otho
Now it would be interesting to know, which scope and size your project has. 2009/2/19 Borut Bolčina borut.bolc...@gmail.com Today the official winner was announced. The corporate mind decided we will use PHP Zend. The deciding factor was http://www.zend.com/en/products/platform/customers

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-20 Thread Stephane Decleire
With no offense, doesn't that show a lack of marketing actions on the Tapestry website ? A marketing part in the website, aimed at the managers (no technical details, just facts : speed / support / customers / ...) , would probably be a great tool for Tapestry ... Stephane Borut Bolčina a écrit

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-19 Thread Borut Bolčina
Today the official winner was announced. The corporate mind decided we will use PHP Zend. The deciding factor was http://www.zend.com/en/products/platform/customers Nonetheless, I hope I will post a better news in a few of months which will go directly into success stories. -Borut 2009/2/18

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-19 Thread Daniel Honig
Ok, I'm sure the tapestry list will still be here to help in two years when they get to phase 3 and have to start from scratch ;) -dh On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Borut Bolčina borut.bolc...@gmail.comwrote: Today the official winner was announced. The corporate mind decided we will use

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Francois Armand
Borut Bolčina wrote: Hello, Hello, [...] Can you believe that? I would like to prove him wrong with Tapestry Cayenne combo. Unfortunately I have no list of T5 success stories. The French weather site is done with T5.0.10 or so. The project leader posted a mail about that, one of the

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Stavrinides
@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 08:03:52 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: [OT] By boss decided Hello, just want to share a piece of corporate mind set with you. My boss decided that none of the Java frameworks is productive in comparison to PHP, Ruby and Django

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
2009/2/18 Otho taa...@googlemail.com: Yup, no websites in java. Googlemail doesn't count. And german Telekom and Postbank are totally niche companies. :) Brazil's largest bank, Banco do Brasil, has it website written in Java, including its home banking. I don't know the exact figures, but it

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
2009/2/18 Otho taa...@googlemail.com: Yup, no websites in java. Googlemail doesn't count. And german Telekom and Postbank are totally niche companies. :) I'm 99.9% sure that Gmail is written in GWT. I had a job interview at Google once. I asked if Google was written in GWT. The guy gave me a

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Jue
Then that would imply that at least the RPC side is still in Java, and the developer side source code for the GUI is actually Java. Have you seen that recent article called Competence: Is your boss faking it? http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1878358,00.html Not to be harsh on your

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Gentry
I used T4+Cayenne on an internal application (so there is no public link to it). It ended up working really well for them. They had an existing application which processed loans, but it was only designed to do one-at-a-time. The nature of the business had changed and they were doing 500-1000

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Stavrinides
, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: Re: [OT] By boss decided Then that would imply that at least the RPC side is still in Java, and the developer side source code for the GUI is actually Java. Have you seen that recent article called Competence: Is your boss faking it? http://www.time.com/time/health/article

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2009-02-18 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2009/2/18 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo thiag...@gmail.com: 2009/2/18 Otho taa...@googlemail.com: Yup, no websites in java. Googlemail doesn't count. And german Telekom and Postbank are totally niche companies. :) I'm 99.9% sure that Gmail is written in GWT. I had a job interview at Google

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Fernando Padilla
How about LinkedIn. Otho wrote: Yup, no websites in java. Googlemail doesn't count. And german Telekom and Postbank are totally niche companies. :) 2009/2/18 Daniel Honig daniel.ho...@gmail.com Ok...very late for meHorrible post! But I do have some real points... let me bullet point

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread Fernando Padilla
For general Java: How about LinkedIn? Anything with OpenSocial/Shindig ( Myspace, Hi5, Orkut, iGoogle, maybe even Yahoo Social ). For Tapestry: I would like to say my sites but they are only timid successes ( tapestry is not the issue, just the business :) protrade.com

RE: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread James Sherwood
Hi, http://www.workingmother.comwritten in T3:) 350k/month PAGE VIEWS(1million during top 100) --James -Original Message- From: Fernando Padilla [mailto:f...@alum.mit.edu] Sent: February-18-09 1:19 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: [OT] By boss decided For general Java: How

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-18 Thread manuel aldana
Well, take the big players like amazon or ebay, most of their system is written in JAVA. The scripting stuff has its place (e.g. quick feedback, cheap availability on web-hosters), but for bigger things most of the time I would refer to static typed languages. Analyzing and refactoring

[OT] By boss decided

2009-02-17 Thread Borut Bolčina
Hello, just want to share a piece of corporate mind set with you. My boss decided that none of the Java frameworks is productive in comparison to PHP, Ruby and Django and that there are no web sites written in any Java framework. Can you believe that? I would like to prove him wrong with

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-17 Thread Alex Kotchnev
This is funny !!! :-) The little guy standing up , defending Java from the corporate type who wants PHP :-) Wow :-) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Borut Bolčina borut.bolc...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, just want to share a piece of corporate mind set with you. My boss decided that none of

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel Honig
Just tell him to go check out grails before he goes off and tries to re-invent the infrastructure in cake php. That being said once T5 is part of my migration path once I reach the limits of scalability from all the MOP overhead from dynamic language frameworks. In a perfect world, I'd write my

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel Honig
Ok...very late for meHorrible post! But I do have some real points... let me bullet point - dynamic language frameworks offer great but often overexaggerated productivity ( dependent on lots of factors!) - PHP does not mean you can hire less than talented folks and expect a huge

Re: [OT] By boss decided

2009-02-17 Thread Otho
Yup, no websites in java. Googlemail doesn't count. And german Telekom and Postbank are totally niche companies. :) 2009/2/18 Daniel Honig daniel.ho...@gmail.com Ok...very late for meHorrible post! But I do have some real points... let me bullet point - dynamic language frameworks