Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
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Nope. In the forums they say they have no plans for the existing and
announced products.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
No GPS sync, and TDMA is done in software, not hardware / fpga:
http://www.ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13327start=30
Matt wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS sync for frequency reuse?
Matt
I was hoping for that myself. Would be seriously nice to have GPS
integrated in the thing. I've only worked with the Bullets so far and no
mention of that. I have some Rockets on order but since they all use AirOS,
I doubt that's a doable thing. But even without GPS, it all looks to be a
game
I am looking for a solution to extend the range of our current
ap(Tropos,Colubris.) setup without having to get high dollar equipment. I
have several apartment complexes where users are not getting enough signal,
and wondering if anyone has a cost effective solution for a wireless
repeater. I have
Is there a Google Earth Overlay with Census Tracts out there. Form 477 setup.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition
Maybe this is better for the Mikrotik list, but any vendor can pick up
on this if they want :)
In researching the UBNT new stuff, I came across something quite
interesting / promising. It appeared some newer atheros chipsets had
TDMA built into the hardware, but I believe I was mistaken.
That's what wds does. It's slow and doesn't work very well for more than a
couple of people at a time though.
We build out with tranzeo cpe then broadcast with MT ap's. I like the
physical separation between the actual radios, not just the antennas.
marlon
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I can identify. I get people that offer their 2 cents on how where
we should market - but I already have more work than I can handle.
What a catch 22! -RickG
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com
wrote:
No. We're rotten at marketing.
Actually, we're just
Anyone had a chance to fully test any of Ubiquiti's claims like 150+mbps real
throughput and 300+ subscribers per AP? Much more impressive numbers than
Canopy.
Matt wrote:
Ubiquity has introduced their new product lines, at www.ubnt.com.
Looking to take Canopy on.
Anything like GPS
Engenius does this. I don't like doing it at all but as a last
possible solution it works.
On 8/18/09, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote:
Grab a Deliberant AP Duo, have one side connect as client and other as AP.
Works beautifully.
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From:
Yes Marlon, that counts!
We are in the exact same boat, for now. Hopefully the marketing will be put
together by end of next week and we can go to market.
Bob Elliott
Information Systems
RCS Communications
502.587.7384
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
This is not the same as WDS. The duo will give you a true repeater type
setup where both sides get full possible bandwidth. Have to carefully plan
your channels though if both sides are in the same band.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Grab a Deliberant AP Duo, have one side connect as client and other as AP.
Works beautifully.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Ap
We've used Openmesh and Meraki products to extend the coverage of our Qnodes
inside concrete buildings, basements, etc. These are single-radio devices,
so the bandwidth is only adequate for surfing and email. But they work great
and are dirt cheap, we just hook up one of them to the ethernet
I was playing around with the Bullets last night and my connect was 150 but
I'd have to have some really understanding customers to try to test more
than a few with the Bullet. That can be saved for an emergency situation!
We're throwing them up later this week for some new outlying backhauls.
Any source for the following:
Concrete cable clips
Korn Clamps
Hose clamps
Gino A. Villarini
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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August
For hose clamps I go to Lowe's. Few bucks and no shipping. I am sure there
is an online resource that would be cheaper, however I doubt it would offset
the cost of shipping.
Do you have a local hardware store for the other things? In small
quantities the hardware store will no doubt be best.
We typically buy quite a bit from Arris Telewire Supply
http://www.arrisistore.com/subcat.php?cat=N
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Well, you can make them yourself by downloading the tiger data you need
for your county/state and then using tgr2kml from
http://freegeographytools.com/2007/convert-tiger-polygons-to-kml-files.
Tiger files can be downloaded from census bureau at
I just tried it tiwh the Tiger2006 2nd edition and the program errors out
when creating the kml for the Tract 2000 feature. I went back and got the
original 2000 data (tracts are the same) and it worked fine. That data is
availble at http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tigerua/ua_tgr2k.html.
Tom, I've been looking at OpenMesh to do the same thing outside, but can't
wrap my head around the Dashboard being outside the network. Hit me off
list if you wish to share.
Phil Curnutt, LCWireless, Santa Fe, NM
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:
Go on Ebay and look for the Pepwave Peplink Surf or the Surf AP
They are surplus Earthlink and are exactly for that purpose.
I have used hundreds of them to extend Tropos
Ralph
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Alan
Yeah, but its misleading garbage specs.
Mimo adds very little in noisy environments, where double size channels and
both polarities can't be both used based on spectrum availabilty, not to
mention specifying gross speed instead of actual speeds.
I'm not saying the Ubiquiti isn't a really nice
Low cost, dual pol and high gain. 19db 120' sector @ 5GHz ;) Interesting design
too.
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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net]
Sent: 19 August 2009 00:08
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
Yeah, but its misleading garbage specs.
Mimo
MIMO (especially dual-pol) gets you much better performance. Cell phone
companies have been doing this for years and years.
You're 3dB vs 25dB comment is misleading. UBNT may need a received level of
-70dBm to achieve higher speeds... but, so does a Canopy. You can't expect
to achieve anything
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Im sorry but i find some stated facts very difficult to believe. the 25db vs
3db snr ratio is based on the fact that canopy can perform as expected with
just 3db over noise. MIMO based gear needs about 25 db snr ratio on both
polarities in order to achieve good performence on 64qam
bit more info on the airmax protocol fro ubiquiti:
Yes AirMax is the TDMA/Polling aspect of the software/hardware. This can be
shut off. The backoff rules of the 802.11 protocol still apply to a certain
extent (only from outside sources - inside the Ap/Client network they all have
different
I never said you had to believe me. I know what we do, what our environment
is like, and what works for us. I know our customers always get 12Mbps, and
we never get support calls.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Jason
Im sorry but i find some stated
They actually get 12MBps throughput or they are connected at the 12MBps
rate?
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
12Mbps download, 6Mbps upload to speedtest.net
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
They actually get 12MBps throughput or they are connected at the 12MBps
rate?
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
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Sorry dude, I love Ubiquity, but 100 subs on a atheros system on a chip
at 12/6 - Impossible.
130 Mbps throughput on a 100 mb ethernet port - Impossible.
130 Mbps at 15 miles when full modulation at 40 mhz w/2 antennas is 130
Mbps is -Impossible.
YOU haven't tested any of the new UBNT gear, so
So it's not even going to work as well as a Mikrotik system with
"Disable CSMA" turned on...
Travis
Microserv
Gino Villarini wrote:
bit more info on the airmax protocol fro ubiquiti:
Yes AirMax is the TDMA/Polling aspect of the software/hardware. This can be shut off. The backoff rules
I'm going to call BS here...
(1) You don't really have a "noisy" environment if you are able to run
a basic Powerstation AP with 100 subs and have it work at all. We are
on towers on hilltops that have over 120 antennas (dishes, sectors,
omnis) within a 500ft radius from our tower.
(2) You
Jayson,
First off, I'm primarilly a Trango shop not a Moto shop, so I have not BIAS
to Moto. We have evaluated Moto Advantage, along with other manufacturer
OFDM gear in our attempts to find solutions for faster speeds, for next
generation needs. To date, we have found PtP to be the answer
I am the the devil's advocateThey are one step closer. Put us some gps
timing in and they got it whooped (although I doubt it will ever happen under
the MAC consideration's). But for me in the middle of BFE, it will work great
for a 1/3 or more of the price.
Scottie
-- Original
Sometimes people find that the impossible actually is possible. The world
used to be flat too :)
... until their understanding increased.
I have two radios on my desk that cost less than $500 for the pair
including antennas that will do 100MB using MIMO technology. I also find
that given
Hey Travis, your feedback is always valued. Thanks for sharing your
testing with us. I look forward to hearing about it...
Have you had a chance to test some MT MIMO gear out there yet?
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Travis Johnson
Tom, I believe there is a huge advantage to being able to use HPOL and VPOL
at the same time with the same 20Mhz channel and get twice the bandwidth.
Its sort of like your personal gps sync within the device. Realistically
(for me anyway) I find that if there is strong noise on a give
I need 4 media converters asap. Looking for non-hardened 100MB SC
Multimode simple plain jane stuff.
I've purchase some from Versatek in CA for about $50
I can get them from Fiberdyne for about the same but they are out of
stock.
I can get Trendnet for about the same too but I don't use them
Patton or Allied Telysis
On 8/18/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
I need 4 media converters asap. Looking for non-hardened 100MB SC
Multimode simple plain jane stuff.
I've purchase some from Versatek in CA for about $50
I can get them from Fiberdyne for about the same but
Yes, I have a "test" set of the MT with the R52n card. I was able to do
55Mbps of actual TCP throughput with a single antenna using RB411
boards. So, for about $200 for a complete link (plus antennas), you can
have a 50Mbps ptp link using a single 20mhz channel (and single
polarity).
I also
A few years ago I took a tip from all the satellite installers around
here. They use skywalker.com. I've been very happy with their prices
and selection.
-RickG
BTW: I also use Lowes for hose clamps!
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Gino Villarinig...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Any source for the
We do have the gear, both MikroTik and Ubiquiti. In the test lab
situation with Ubiquiti we are only seeing 25-30MBit/s. In real world
my customers are seeing the same thing. I'm hoping to get another test
going tomorrow to check to see if we can do anything better than
25-30MBit/s. I wish I
Could not get a connection through a couple of trees with the bare LOCO -
signal was ~ -90.
Put it on a Securalign dish for grins and now have -71dB.
I don't think I got the antenna in the exact focal point but it's pretty close.
__
Jerry Richardson
airCloud
Chuck Hogg wrote:
...
I'm not trying to bash Jayson's email. I don't see how you can get
130Mbit when the port is 100Mbit.
The way Ubiquiti justified this in a forum post was that the 130Mbps is
total throughput (up and down). 100Mbps ethernet at full duplex is
100Mbps in each direction.
I've used Versa and Trendnet with 100% success. We must have probably a
dozen trendnet receivers in operation and 8-10 versanet tranceivers in
operation. That's the cheap stuff. It's cheap lightning protection and a
reliable link. We also have some Transition Networks and Canary gear
that has also
I concur with Scott's idea that you get more efficient spectrum use.
We have just installed a Solectek excel link which uses 2x2 mimo. We
have a dual polarity 3' dish at one and and 2' dual polarity at the
other end of the 14 mile link.
We upgraded an Alvarion VL ptp link which maxed out at
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