Detroit Techno

2000-12-30 Thread TurnTheTable
Hey what's up?  I just have a simple question for the people who live in 
Detroit.

 I have been listening to techno for about 5 yearsand for the past 2 
years have been going to those so called RAVES (to see DJs I like)and 
would like to know what the parties where like back when they started in 
DetroitNow I just see kids dressed up in plastic beads and glow-sticks 
everywhereIt really pisses me off when people don't know who the true 
great Detroit DJ/producers are as they tell me Anabolic Frolic is the best DJ 
in the world (he spins happy hard-core).  So please 
E-mail me privately with your answer.  PEACE


J. Benjamin Searle

313 Techno Hooded Sweatshirts ~~~ www.313.4mg.com


Happy noo year

2000-12-30 Thread Dave Clark
Just wanted to say hello to everyone and hope y'all have a fine new
years. I for one will attempt to enjoy alton miller and also all the
local dj's I'll be checking out.

Have a good one!
-Dave-

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Re: [313] Chuck Gibson

2000-12-30 Thread Nathan


Jonny McIntosh wrote:

  Is Chuck Gibson behind any other releases that I may not know of?
 Also, the sleevenotes mention visual diversions as his job for UR, is he a
 sleeve designer too?

On the back of the record it's says Artwork by - Charles Gibson, Abdul Haqq

I wonder if he's done any other artwork on UR records?

nath



Re: [313] tonight? Motor, Bill VanLoo ect...

2000-12-30 Thread William VanLoo
 I caught a bit of Clark's set in the beginning of the evening, and he
 played some excellent cuts, that one really great Norken cut off
 Soulstatic Bureau comes to mind most readily.

Yes, Clark played some great stuff, as always. I think in 10 years
people in Detroit are going to look back  realize just how influential
Clark's DJing has been on a lot of people (especially other DJs). I
certainly number myself among those touched by his good taste.

 Bill Vanloo played the first live set of the evening, and frankly, he
 played the only one that mattered.

Geez, Mike, I gotta remember to put you on the guest list more often ;-)

Thanks for the kind words - I really appreciate it. To answer Jeff
Richards' question:

 Does Bill have any demo's available...maybe a CD...promo stuff?

I don't have anything publicly available on CD or vinyl yet. I do have
MP3s from my live set at DEMF available at my website:

http://www.chromedecay.org

I'm hoping to get studio recordings of a couple more tracks done in
early January  then start shopping that around as a demo. Also, I've
completed a record for Dale's THX series - you can hear the live version
of that track as the last MP3 on my site.

As for Dale, here's to hoping the gods of the live PA smile upon him
soon. The people who were at Motor on Wednesday probably have no idea
just how hard this guy worked to bring them the 20-25 mintues of his
music that he was able to perform. I was holding his sampler's hard in
the air for 5 minutes or so while he installed extra RAM in the borrowed
S5000 he finally obtained for the evening, and he played with no
soundcheck or proper set-up.

I think if he had been able to play the full set, people would have
really gotten a chance to hear some good stuff - Dale's live set has
been faster and a bit noisier than his recorded stuff. I think his next
set of tracks are going to be ones to keep an eye on...

Anyway, Wednesday was a fun night for me - thanks to all who showed up.
I'll try to reciprocate by getting my butt in the studio  finally
getting some more stuff recorded :)

Cheers,

Bill
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Re: [313] Detroit techno was techno.

2000-12-30 Thread stephen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
techno and house was (nearly) the same thing,

Yeah but they were differant.
I don't buy the argument that house and techno were the same thing
because people would call Nude Photo , Off To Battle and No UFOs
DETROIT TECHNO.
Detroit techno had its own characteristic sound even though it used some
of the same elements of Chicago house.
Inner City was vocal house but it had a distinct Detroit techno quality
that distinguished it from Jersey garage or Chicago house.

i`ve got a question for all who like playing genre-defining games:
what`s up with blake baxters when we used to play (co-produced by
Kevin
Saunderson) on KMS (a detroit record ofcourse)? house or techno?

That was called Detroit techno, in fact I remember people in the late
80's associated labels like Transmat, KMS, Metroplex with Detroit
techno.
If you want the definitive old school Detroit techno sound listen to
Juan's' Techno Music from Techno! The Sound Of Detroit compilation.

stephen.



Re: [313] john howard

2000-12-30 Thread Southern Outpost

Yeah, he's the Australian Prime Minister... I never knew he was a DJ tho ;)

Peace,
Patrick.

At 9:06 AM -0700 29/12/00, holly c macdonald-korth wrote:

does anyone know who john howard is?

i'm seeing him play this weekend in SF...

thanx,
h


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Re: [313] Chuck Gibson

2000-12-30 Thread Southern Outpost
I believe Chuck does the layout of the sleeves for UR. Abdul is UR's 
artist, responsible for most of their label designs... notably: 
Vintage Future ep, original Jagaur ep and a whole bag of others.


Peace,
Patrick.

At 3:46 PM +1030 31/12/00, Nathan wrote:

Jonny McIntosh wrote:


  Is Chuck Gibson behind any other releases that I may not know of?
 Also, the sleevenotes mention visual diversions as his job for UR, is he a
 sleeve designer too?


On the back of the record it's says Artwork by - Charles Gibson, Abdul Haqq

I wonder if he's done any other artwork on UR records?

nath


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Re: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno?

2000-12-30 Thread phred
Christian Smith ought to read Dan's book.  Chicago house and
Detroit techno were well intertwined in their development,
but no way is Detroit techno just an offshoot of house, nor
was Chicago unaffected by those early Detroit tracks.  
Nowadays I think of them as co-evolutionary.  One factor 
that is overlooked is that mix shows had a big impact in
both cities, but they functioned somewhat differently.  

Everyone wants a single source for everything in their origin
myths.  Here's a classic example of why things don't go
that simply.

phred


Re: [313] Re: no subject

2000-12-30 Thread phred
What's curious about this notion of Early Techno (giving it the proper
museum label) being just basically house is that there were really two
things going on in 1988-92 in Detroit (OK, *three* things including the
MI but there aren't any tapes of that that I know of!).  One was a series
of commercial remixes by Nu
Juan and Kevin and some others that fit in with the club-friendly Big Fun/
Good Life kind of sound.  I really love these tracks because the production
is good, the tunes are well above average and you have nice touches like
Juan's distinctive basslines.  And I would hope that these paid pretty well,
which was a factor during the time when the majors were trying to assimilate
the more innovative stuff.

But that was also the period when Detroit techno as we know it now was
born, with both the 'first' and 'second wave' producers putting out a wide
range of really creative stuff.  You have KMS' more abstract/harder ones,
the development of what became UR, and so on.  All this is on a separate
track from the remix material.  I think Kevin Saunderson's history during
this time is the most interesting because he produced both fantastic house
tracks and those seminal dark techno ones.  

phred


313 in London

2000-12-30 Thread phred
Saw DJ Assault at Fabric (new superclub in east London) last night. I missed
the Pubahs because of the ridiculous queue outside in 26 degree weather,
about 50 of us waited for nearly 45 minutes to get in.  

Assault was good, but seemed fairly upset which usually (from personal
experience) means monitor or turntable problems.  He was in 'Room 2' which
is a fairly big one (maybe 40x60) up on a stage.  And when I say 'up on a
stage' every DJ will groan, because that means you are playing on top of
a big springy drum.  It looked like the turntables had no particular padding
underneath.

Anyway, lots of really fast tracks and plenty of good mixing, but you could
practically predict the crowd yells everytime he did some scratching, even
when it was fairly perfunctory, and no reaction when he spun a record out
perfectly or did other Assault-style wonders.

Not sure where I'll be tonight, Stacey Pullen is at the same Fabric tonight
(in  the big room, though, I believe), but I don't think I want to deal
with the weekend masses again...

phred


Re: [313] john howard

2000-12-30 Thread phred
I know John Howard pretty well.  He normally plays very jazzy house, 
pretty swinging stuff.

John has also been sometime columnist for XLR8R magazine.

phred


Re: [313] 313 in London

2000-12-30 Thread DJ DMT
And when I say 'up on a
 stage' every DJ will groan, because that means you are playing on top of
 a big springy drum.  It looked like the turntables had no particular
padding
 underneath.


You got a F*king point here
I cannot understand (:) why They  f*cking promotors put Dj's up there
It's very very bad for the sound and does weird things while mixing.
Back in the days promotors use to do really weird stuff here in holland
(really weird fireworks, ben Hur like entrance for Dj's :))) and stuff like
that

n.p. Dimitri in my mind from last night :)
whoooaaa


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DJ Marquis/Keith Tucker - Submerge, the Show Archives

2000-12-30 Thread JavierDrada
Up now at the Underground Committee Website: ( 
http://www.undergroundcommittee.com )


DJ Marquis (Upstart Records, Detroit) Submerge, the Show: Session 1.0

DJ Marquis (Upstart Records, Detroit) Submerge, the Show: Session 2.0

Keith Tucker a.k.a. DJ K-1 (Puzzle Box Records, Detroit) Submerge, the Show: 
Session 1.0

Underground Committee Live Web-Cast (Archive):

- Reflections...
- bang the party - glad all over - 1987 kool kat records 
- arnold jarvis - take some time out - 1987 fourth floor records
- the it - donnie - 1985 dj international 
- pleasure zone - hold these nuts - 1987 trax records
- quest - mind games - 1985 mangoser records 
- risque II - essence of a dream - 1987 stride records 
- sweet d - thank ya - 1986 trax records 
- fingers inc. - distant planet - 1988 indigo records 
- mr. fingers - amnesia - 1988 indigo records 
- mr. fingers - can you feel it (vocal mix) - 1986 trax records 
- mr. fingers - washing machine - 1986 trax records 
- mr. fingers - dead end alley - 1992 MCA 
- robert owens- bring down the walls - 1986 trax records
- bernard badie - oxygen (original underground version) - 2000 alleviated 
records 
- fingers inc. - never no more lonely -1988 jack trax records 

- Detroit Influence
- ur 2001 - millenium to millenium - ur 
- kraftwerk - sidra (ur mix) - kling klang 
- wild planet - vocoder ep - 430 west 
- dj rolando - jaguar (mayday dub) - 430 west 
- octave one - blackwater - 430 west 
- the bottom feeders - kms 072 - kms 
- gary martin - kms 070 - kms 
- bnr.380 - flatner/ingram - black nation records 
- bnr 400 - gayle san - black nation records 
- bnr 380 - flatner/ingram - black nation records 
- claude young - rise - tresor 
- bnr 410 jay denham - revenge of a mad man - black nation records  
- dwayne jensen - kms 071 - kms 
- jeff mills - every dog has it's day vol. 2 - axis 
- jeff mills - every dog has it's day vol. 2 - axis 
- kraftwerk - expo 2000 (ur infiltrated mix) - kling klang 
- ur 021- mirage - ur 
- ur 021 - talking to z - ur 
- gus gus - polyesterday (carl craig mix) -4ad
- ur 2001 - millenium to millenium - ur
- hip hop beats vol 6.7 - yeah yeah - hipnotech 
- hip hop beats vol 6.7 - boom bat 369 - hipnotech 
- hip hop beats vol 6.7 - bugz dance - hipnotech 
- hip hop beats vol 6.7 - disco 2k - hipnotech 
- hip hop beats vol 6.7 - techhop music 


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new forcefield reviews

2000-12-30 Thread marsel


new reviews uploaded, short snaps included
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Re: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno?

2000-12-30 Thread Kent williams
On 30 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chicago house and
 Detroit techno were well intertwined in their development,
 but no way is Detroit techno just an offshoot of house, nor
 was Chicago unaffected by those early Detroit tracks.  

Yeah. Some of the real old school house has a synthetic Kraftwerk-y
sound to it that very much reflects the same influences that informed
Detroit techno.  And remember that the Bellville kids were driving
over to Chicago to go clubbing and buy records with some frequency.

I guess the best way to put it is that people who are into the music
will go for anything that kicks.  And there is plenty of house music
in Detroit -- Check TP, check the Atlanta-era records on Acacia, Moodyman?

I think it's really incorrect to talk about being a Detroit Techno Purist.
Techno has always been about throwing many different spices in the pot.



Derrick May in NYE

2000-12-30 Thread jose bello
Please.any info about Derrick May in NYE,Where ?
Many Thanks.

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Detroit on NYE

2000-12-30 Thread Dennis Donohue
My wife and I are planning on coming into Detroit for tonight's (Saturday's) 
Jaun Atkins show at Motor, and then going to the NYE show at motor on 
Sunday.  I would like to meet up with some 313ers while i am in the area.  I 
will be wearing an I love techno shirt each night, and am wondering if 
anyone knows of any after hours parties for NYE.


Thanks for putting up with the waste of bandwidth.

Dennis Donohue.
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MY MIX TAPE

2000-12-30 Thread TekHitsHarder
Ok I have just got done making my first 30 min mix tape. Id like anyone who 
is intersted in listening to take a listen and give me any criticism 
possible. I know you guys are worthy of picking music apart. Anything at 
all..Ive only been doin this for about 3.5 months, so any and all criticism 
is wanted. Thanks.

Mike D.

p.s: just send me ur address..ill mail u a copy


Drexciya Live

2000-12-30 Thread jose bello
Drexciya Live Show in Real Audio

http://www.de-bug.de/

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