Re: [313] Good Idea?
That's actually a very cool idea, but i don't think it would give anyone an idea of how you mix. Is this all your original work? If not, how did you sneak it by mp3.com? On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Shaun Holley wrote: > Album promotion (please don't yawn). > Posted an MP3 with 2 bar snippets of each of the 23 songs from my mix CD. > Can't see that many people wanting to listen to it again and again but a > good idea for a quick flavour of an album? Has this been done before? > > http://www.mp3.com/shaun_holley > tracertfullalbumpreview.mp3 > > Electronic Music Composer * SHAUN HOLLEY * Ambient, Techno, Trip-Hop > http://website.lineone.net/~sholley > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] contemporary
Pinched this from the Metro Times site via many links... hu 16 The natural world is never far removed from the purely synthetic musical universe of Berlin's Monolake, led by minimal techno machinist Robert Henke. A contradiction, you say? Nein. By pasting the sampled sounds of gently flowing water and the rhythmic buzz of insect life onto a substructure of repetitive electronic dance beats, Henke and partner Gerhard Behles may have created the most beautiful noise to emerge from the Chain Reaction label's class of 97 which included fellow left-field German geniuses Porter Ricks, Scion and Vainqueur. This Thursday, Henke brings the touring version (himself, that is) of Monolake to Detroit for the first time. One has the feeling Henke would not play here if he did not intend to conquer one of the most electro-sophisticated audiences on the planet. Miss this show at your own peril. A live PA from Maersk precedes Monolake. Complementary sound scapes are provided by DJ Clark Warner, who has the records to make this night even more memorable. 9:30 p.m. at detroit contemporary, 5141 Rosa Parks Blvd., Detroit. Call 313-898-4ART. ...don't bother calling, though. Tha calendar is WAY off. Here's the link, btw : http://www.metrotimes.com/calendar/event.asp?whatid=59687 jeff At 05:45 PM 8/16/2001, Kao Jyan wrote: i don't really know anything about this. diana posted a week or two ago that they were playing at the DC, and i only just remembered. the only info i can find is at www.monolake.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] contemporary
i don't really know anything about this. diana posted a week or two ago that they were playing at the DC, and i only just remembered. the only info i can find is at www.monolake.de here's diana's post >Since it was being discussed... > > thanks to my handy dandy metro times and Brendan M. >Gillian's Pitch'd column: > > Thursday, August 30th: Matthew Herbert will be >playing at Motor. Dani Scilliano on vocals and Phil >Pharnell on piano. > > Monolake will also be at the DC Thursday, Aug. 16th >"courtesty of Mearsk-music" > >...and Peaches tonight at Magic Stick. > >d > Please post this back to the list :-) > The phone at DC is *way* behind on their calendar. > jeff > > > At 04:40 PM 8/16/2001, Kao Jyan wrote: > >sh*t, monolake is tonight. > >i'm relying on you lot to remind me about these things. > >what time do things start??? > >kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] contemporary
Please post this back to the list :-) The phone at DC is *way* behind on their calendar. jeff At 04:40 PM 8/16/2001, Kao Jyan wrote: sh*t, monolake is tonight. i'm relying on you lot to remind me about these things. what time do things start??? kaojyan - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: DJ Assault giveaway...
Sorry, I gave the wrong email address it should be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerald wrote: > > Win a copy of DJ Assault's latest cd "Jefferson Ave." > > All you have to do is give me the name of an artist who has done a > station i.d. on the show. You know... when an artist announces: "Hi, > this _, and you're listening to..." that kind of thing. The station > i.d.'s are usually played around :15 & :45mins of every hour. (Here's a > tip check out around 1:15, 1:45, or 2:15 of this week's show). > > Email your answers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A random draw from all correct answers will be made next week. > > Here's a link to the site where you can check out the playlist & listen > to the archived show: http://www.1groove.com/show.php?s=equinox > > Cheers! > > G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Sueno Latino
how much different is the Paridise Verson of Sueno Latino from the original? thanks ryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] End to end, new label?
End To End is Mike Grants new label, alongside Moods & Grooves and also his new electro label, afrosyntrix (sp?). Mike seems to be working with some great producers, so watch out for more excellent music on the new labels! Peace, Patrick. At 5:39 PM + 16/8/01, M Elliot-Knight wrote: Anyone know about this? I picked up EE001 yesterday. Mike Grant did the production. On side is dark minimal techno/house with some sample of a guy saying something about "Welcome to DC prison" and how you are a number and so forth and then ends with another sample of someone talking about getting out of prison...like I said it's very dark. Like going through a long tunnel and then finally seeing light on the other end. The other side I haven't listened to close enough to describe the two tracks. I looked for info on the label and it said that it was a division of Big 50 Entertainment? It is a Detroit label, that I know. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +---+ | Southern Outpost | | Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 | | http://www.southernoutpost.com| | p:+61 412 313 151 f:+612 8704 8481| +---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Organ Grinda
for a while i assumed it was dj rush, but its not. i read his interview in a magazine a while ago. it said somethings about he was rush's room mate at one point. i forgot what his real name was. his last lp is kinda interesting. theres only a coulpe tracks i like. From: "Mad'R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If Organ Grinda = Organ Grinder then it's Dj Rush on the more housy flow happy programming - Original Message - From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: [313] Organ Grinda > Hey, I am looking for some info on Organ Grinda. Anyone able to help? > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Test
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[313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] contemporary
sh*t, monolake is tonight. i'm relying on you lot to remind me about these things. what time do things start??? kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Detroit Music In UK Media
There's an ace (though too short) interview with the awesome Norma Jean Bell in the new Jockey Slut, plus a good review of a new KMS EP by my new fave Das Closer penned by TMF, and in Seven (8 Aug) there is a good 'exclusive' interview with Mr Hawtin plus great coverage of the Musik Und Maschine event in which Jeff Mills refers to his early music "terrible" (I disagree but great artists always diss their early efforts). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Kevin Saunderson @ Shine
Anyone else in the NYC area going to this on Friday night? Never been there so I hope the sound system is good. If you want to meet up there, reply back to me off the list. -dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
Kao Jyan wrote on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 about following: > jeff mills and maybe others were using the 909 in dj sets before rich. frankie knuckles was using 909 in his dj sets when the box came available in mid-eighties. sakke -- "let me dream like a clairvoyant" - download : ego dissolve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
> > Without keeping something constant, you have nothing to build with. > > Constantly changing mediums means you'll never be doing something long > > enough to truely master it. Who cares if he uses the same instrument for 20 > > more years, as long as the inspirations are kept and the music is pushed to > > the limits. > > you don't have to CONSTANTLY change mediums. you just need to stop playing > the same rhythms ad nauseum. heaven forbid that someone doesn't think what > rich was doing was all that innovative in his sets last year. granted, he > did it first. he did it best. jeff mills and maybe others were using the 909 in dj sets before rich. i remember richie saying in real detroit that jeff convinced him that he could use the 909 and not sound the same, and you can definitely hear how they both use it differently. kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Good Idea?
Album promotion (please don't yawn). Posted an MP3 with 2 bar snippets of each of the 23 songs from my mix CD. Can't see that many people wanting to listen to it again and again but a good idea for a quick flavour of an album? Has this been done before? http://www.mp3.com/shaun_holley tracertfullalbumpreview.mp3 Electronic Music Composer * SHAUN HOLLEY * Ambient, Techno, Trip-Hop http://website.lineone.net/~sholley - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
-Original Message- From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i really don't think FinalScratch is the next level. until it can do things that normal turntables and a mixer can't do, then it hasn't really done anything except make it a little more convenient on the current level. PG> It's made getting your hands on music a lot easier and that in itself is going to revolutionize the music industry (not this particular product per se)! It's no longer about going down to the record shop and looking through bins, instead you'll go to a labels web site and download their newest cut. No pressing time, delivery, running out of stock, ... Staying underground by only allowing those in the know to access the latest and greatest, just like record pools today. Take for example the new cuts that monolake puts up on his website, that are unreleased on vinyl/cd, you won't hear many vinyl dj's playing that out... Hassle free music distribution and low to no distribution costs. Money goes right to the artist, the real issue becomes marketing and copy protection. -pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Organ Grinda
If Organ Grinda = Organ Grinder then it's Dj Rush on the more housy flow happy programming - Original Message - From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: [313] Organ Grinda > Hey, I am looking for some info on Organ Grinda. Anyone able to help? > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] End to end, new label?
Well, I think you've got all the info straight already. All the same here's the track listing if you need it. The second release on End to End is a Scan 7 EP which is just as nice. EE-001 Black Noise - Step Into the Darkness A1. Young Gifted & Black B1. Smoke & Mirrors B2. Smoke & Mirrors (tripped out mix) ]-Original Message- ]From: M Elliot-Knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:39 PM ]To: 313@hyperreal.org ]Subject: [313] End to end, new label? ] ] ]Anyone know about this? I picked up EE001 yesterday. Mike Grant did the ]production. On side is dark minimal techno/house with some sample of a guy ]saying something about "Welcome to DC prison" and how you are a number and ]so forth and then ends with another sample of someone talking ]about getting ]out of prison...like I said it's very dark. Like going through a ]long tunnel ]and then finally seeing light on the other end. The other side I haven't ]listened to close enough to describe the two tracks. ]I looked for info on the label and it said that it was a division ]of Big 50 ]Entertainment? It is a Detroit label, that I know. ] ]MEK ] ]_ ]Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ] ] ]- ]To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] End to end, new label?
MoodsandGrooves is Mike Grant's House Label and End to End is his new Techno label Look for more Big 50 Entertainment labels to be out in the near future Dave M Elliot-Knight wrote: > Anyone know about this? I picked up EE001 yesterday. Mike Grant did the > production. On side is dark minimal techno/house with some sample of a guy > saying something about "Welcome to DC prison" and how you are a number and > so forth and then ends with another sample of someone talking about getting > out of prison...like I said it's very dark. Like going through a long tunnel > and then finally seeing light on the other end. The other side I haven't > listened to close enough to describe the two tracks. > I looked for info on the label and it said that it was a division of Big 50 > Entertainment? It is a Detroit label, that I know. > > MEK > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] End to end, new label?
Anyone know about this? I picked up EE001 yesterday. Mike Grant did the production. On side is dark minimal techno/house with some sample of a guy saying something about "Welcome to DC prison" and how you are a number and so forth and then ends with another sample of someone talking about getting out of prison...like I said it's very dark. Like going through a long tunnel and then finally seeing light on the other end. The other side I haven't listened to close enough to describe the two tracks. I looked for info on the label and it said that it was a division of Big 50 Entertainment? It is a Detroit label, that I know. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
i really don't think FinalScratch is the next level. until it can do things that normal turntables and a mixer can't do, then it hasn't really done anything except make it a little more convenient on the current level. i'm sorry to say this, but i think the future of DJ'ing will be computers beatmatching for you... which will probably spawn even more uninspired DJ's. but the true testament i guess will be track selection, working of the EQ's, faders, cutting, etc., which is really what it's all about anyway, right? there will still be plenty of room for creativity, and although most of us hate the thought of a computer beatmatching for us (me included), wouldn't it be nice to not worry about it? :) saves the 10-30 seconds or so beatmatching, saves the corrections... could worry more about other things instead. i think that in addition to the digital sound flie there should be some sort of additional information file... such as BPM's, accurate to the thousandths, and a whole lot of other things that we haven't even thought of yet, in order to do something new with the DJ'ing rather than just emulating a fifty-year old practice. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:28:55 EDT hello- i'm new to the list here, but the topic of FinalScratch caught my eye. There seems to be a lot of worry with people feeling threatened by new technology and the repercussions one such technology may have on the "vinyl" industry as a whole. times are changing, but I myself am a true vinyl addict. there's nothing better than digging through bins and bins of old records and finding that one gem. and the same holds true for new vinyl. listening to all the new music coming out, and then owning it. there's really no words to describe it. which leads me to mp3's and such. in case anyone hasn't noticed, look at the number of CD djs that have just popped up over night. Napster, a new technology, spawned loads of overnight DJs who don't take the time to seek out the music...rather their form of seeking the music out is by them passing hot tunes to one another and also downloading them. One record i've been seeking now for years is a Number of Names 'Sharevari'. Can't find it. But do a search on Napster...or better yet, Audiogalaxy. It's there. But owning some MP3, is that special? It somehow makes it all less exciting downloading an MP3. FinalScratch atleast designed a form of technology that allows DJs to play the MP3 file the way they'd spin a record. And I have to say, that's clever. I'm all for "taking it to the next level" and things of that sort, but is MP3 technology, distribution, and so forth the Final Answer -Kered - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] archives?
John Shipman wrote on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 about following: > Are the most up to date 313 archives found at > http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ or is there another? hi, Thats the only archive I'm aware of - and can be considered as "official". Some people might have their own personal archives though. sakke -- "let me dream like a clairvoyant" - download : ego dissolve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] archives?
Hi, Are the most up to date 313 archives found at http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ or is there another? TIA, John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie and dance musik?
I certainly can call it dance music. I've danced to it. I've seen other people dance to it. How else do you define dance music, other then music that one dances to. If that music is rhythmatic whitenoise, or if it's a pattern of 909 beats, it's all the same, music that makes one dance. So yes, I would say that de9 is a dance music record , plus a whole lot of other releases on Minus Not that I'm a big fan of Richie of anything, but I am a big fan of "Dance Music" and hate to see it so restricted so with such a defintion. Cheers Dave "Jayson B." wrote: > >is richie dance music. i dont think thats his goal, to make you >people > >dance. > > rghht. EVERYTHING he released pre-95 certainly wasn't dance music, i > wouldn't consider de9 dance music, and god forbid anyone considers > minus-anything dance music. You're kidding right? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Christian Morgenstern
Does anyone have contact information for him? Please reply privately to avoid list clutter. Thanks, Dennis www.mp3.com/vanderrohe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie and dance musik?
is richie dance music. i dont think thats his goal, to make you >people dance. rghht. EVERYTHING he released pre-95 certainly wasn't dance music, i wouldn't consider de9 dance music, and god forbid anyone considers minus-anything dance music. You're kidding right? i think rich and most producers along with myself are more content in >making something audibly phenomanal *thinks* *tear in eye* bwuahahahahaha. c'mon bro, i take myself and my music pretty seriously, but this is a little too much. anyways who the hell could dance to rich for more than 10 minutes with >out keeling over from the speed if the de9 sets or the heat of all his >parties. ummm, how about everyone at last labor day who danced full on for 6 hours? its always different aurally and visually when he is working towards something new. why does it matter is he uses a 909 from the >eighties should he replace it with a mpc2000 and then sample the 909, >get real ok, where's your arguement in all of this? you start off saying that richie isn't dance music, and then you state that he's trying some new, then you go into the 'classic' richie stuff, and then you go into bitching about the 909? Can you tell me where your arguement in all of this is? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
> > I think a good example is that when Herbert started making house he was all > about using nothing but samples (except for drum machines). I seem to recall see http://www.matthewherbert.com/Manifesto/Manifestoindex.html no drum machine either...ironically i was reading the above when the 313 digest came tho :) robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie and dance musik?
The only thing Richie has done (that I've heard anyways) that you really can't dance to is his Concept series, the majority of Consumed, and a bit of Artifakts BC. Otherwise, you can dance to pretty much all of the rest. Ed Wong Hau Pepilu Tivrusky IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/16/2001 11:55:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] richie and dance musik? Yes, I think the majority of his music is definitely dancefloor-oriented. I do like the stuff that isn't, as well.. ||not making some cracked out and kandy kids dance. Hey, other people dance, too. I find the hipsters standing around with their arms crossed, looking pensive and imperceptibly nodding their heads just as amusing as candy kids flailing around to whatever is coming out of the speakers. There is a middle ground; you can pay close attention to the music and still shake your ass. It's fun, it burns calories; you should try it sometime. ||anyways who the hell could dance to rich for more than 10 minutes with out keeling over *Raises hand* "It's dark in here.. It's hot in here... I like it here." [anyone care to ID that one?] -tjw __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie and dance musik?
Yes, I think the majority of his music is definitely dancefloor-oriented. I do like the stuff that isn't, as well.. ||not making some cracked out and kandy kids dance. Hey, other people dance, too. I find the hipsters standing around with their arms crossed, looking pensive and imperceptibly nodding their heads just as amusing as candy kids flailing around to whatever is coming out of the speakers. There is a middle ground; you can pay close attention to the music and still shake your ass. It's fun, it burns calories; you should try it sometime. ||anyways who the hell could dance to rich for more than 10 minutes with out keeling over *Raises hand* "It's dark in here.. It's hot in here... I like it here." [anyone care to ID that one?] -tjw __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] :Cleveland OH:Transmit 8/18:Monolake:
Headroom Digital Productions Present: :Transmit: A revolving series of performances showcasing regional and national cutting edge talent in the experimental electronic music genre. :Transmit-Saturday August 18th Edition: featuring: Monolake live minimal techno experiments (Chain Reaction.Force Inc) Berlin Germany Twine-avant beats and scapes (Hefty.Komplott.Bip-Hop.HD) Cleveland OH Joshua Treble-glitchy melancholy IDM (Pitchcadet.Aii) Cinncinatti OH DJ Veins-spinning abstract beats Phase4...VJ live manipulated LCD visuals (Headroom Digital) Be prepared to be immersed in abstract beats, sights and sounds...$6 @ The Asterisk Gallery 2393 Professor Street Cleveland (Tremont) OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] richie and dance musik?
is richie dance music. i dont think thats his goal, to make you people dance. i think rich and most producers along with myself are more content in making something audibly phenomanal not making some cracked out and kandy kids dance. anyways who the hell could dance to rich for more than 10 minutes with out keeling over from the speed if the de9 sets or the heat of all his parties. i agree though i saw rich a bunch for the de9 and i did get bored but you have to remeber where you may have seen him, what about the classic shows and the shows previous to de9. its always different aurally and visually when he is working towards something new. why does it matter is he uses a 909 from the eighties should he replace it with a mpc2000 and then sample the 909, get real - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Africanism + Motor
Phonopsia wrote: > Gerald played this track in his recent set posted here (nice set BTW): Thanks! > Les Enfants Du Bled - Soha (Africanism) > > Derrick May opened with it Saturday @ Motor. This track is *SICK*. What's > the scoop with this label or these artists? Any and all info much > appreciated. Soha is Julien Jabre & DJ Gregory. Julien is one of my favourite producers, he has his own label - Basic Records (France). If you're into this kinda sound check out anything on Basic, also keep an eye out for artist's Julien Jabre, and Next Evidence. Cheers, G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
> Without keeping something constant, you have nothing to build with. > Constantly changing mediums means you'll never be doing something long > enough to truely master it. Who cares if he uses the same instrument for 20 > more years, as long as the inspirations are kept and the music is pushed to > the limits. you don't have to CONSTANTLY change mediums. you just need to stop playing the same rhythms ad nauseum. heaven forbid that someone doesn't think what rich was doing was all that innovative in his sets last year. granted, he did it first. he did it best. but maybe it should GO SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT. it's just that i feel that the 909-playing was stuck in a rut. it's probably temporary. who knows? the last time i heard him play, he wasn't screwing around with the 909 and was playing records and final scratch and it was more to my liking. he played a few times last year where he was laying off the 909 and i totally loved it. but when you hear him five or six times in a year about and hear him play a lot of the same records and the 909...you get tired of it. perhaps i shouldn't have went to see him so many times on the DE9 tour. (hey...it said decks, efx, and a 909..maybe i shouldn't have been so disappointed in the 909 part of it since it's almost to be expected.) :P -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
> Could you see Jeff Mills drop a MP3 track > and then accidently take > the FinalScratch record off the deck and throw onto > the floor behind > him...or into a bin with tons of other scratched up > records? OOOPS! That's a > final scratch if there ever was one. Also, since I believe FS only handles one mp3/wav track at a time right now, with current releases handling 2, dj's like Mills will still need vinyl for working on 3 decks. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR in MCR - Can it be true ?!!?
Just recieved this in a mailshot Any else know anything about this. Any information would be good. " friday 24th aug 10-5am underground resistance tour infiltrates manchester underground resistance have been a major force in detroit's powerful music scene for the past ten years. producing a variety of house, garage, electro and more often and famously techno, they have shown a vision of the future. along with sister label red planet, underground resistance strive to re-awaken people from their "programmed minds". fiercly independent, they produce music "for those who know". ur's run-in with sony over dj rolando's world famous string drenched "jaguar" is a testament to them sticking to their principles and succeeding. underground resistance shy away from the press and self-promotion, prefering to stay in the shadows. they seldom do interviews, and what goes on inside ur is shrouded in secrecy. this is ur's first gig in manchester for a long time, and the fact they tour very irregularly, makes this night all that more special. agent chaos plays live, while there is a dj set from red planet. they are supported by hotwatermusic residents; matt hadlow and steve conry (ten lover's music), and mark turner (orbit, leeds). date: friday 24th august venue: the music box time: 10 pm - 5 am tickets: 1st 300 advance tickets #8 from piccadilly box office 0161 832 or ticketline.co.uk then #10 advance & #12 door. info & tickets without booking fee: hwm on 07930 111 909 " - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
> the 909 is a great tool to make a track, but it > doesn't make a track by > itself. i'm sorry, but those damn handclaps and > snares do sound old after > about ten seconds if there's nothing else happening > in the 'song'. That's why I get bored when he bangs away on it. I need to feel a bassline when I'm on the dancefloor. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
> the Detroit Symphony Orchestra plays music, notes. every time i've heard > Richie on the 909, it just sounds booring. he doesn't really seem to > program any sort of danceable rhythm. i would SO not go as far as to say that it doesn't have a danceable rhythm. and the comparison to the detroit symphony orchestra...okay...heheh...say that all throughout EVERY song, a flute player decided to TRILL during the entire performance. do you not think that would get old? > > the 909 is a great tool to make a track, but it doesn't make a track by > itself. i'm sorry, but those damn handclaps and snares do sound old after > about ten seconds if there's nothing else happening in the 'song'. basically, the 909 is great until he started ABUSING it by playing the same rhythms into the ground during his set. and SCREW a 909 handclap. hands down my LEAST favorite sound on that machine. that's the ONLY reason i really really really didn't like some parts of his set...he just would play with the 909 too much for my tastes..and really that was only because he was playing a lot of the same rhythms over and over and for too long...other parts i did enjoy. and if i would have heard him play minus orange one more time i think i would puke. i like that track a lot don't get me wrong, but it's like hearing him play spastik...it's not his fault though...i mean people have ABUSED those tracks ad nauseum. i love the 909. it's a nice machine. fun to play with. nice and simplistic and has some nice sounds that are basically the foundation of sounds that are the foundations of techno (in general). maybe rich should mod his a lil bit more or something*shrugs* as far as the talk of the 303 being a foreground instrument, i would say that i disagree. if used properly, 303's make some nice background noise. :) and f*ck it...they make nice foreground instruments if you are into that aced thing, but it's not necessarily true that they have to be used as such. -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DJ Assault giveaway...
Win a copy of DJ Assault's latest cd "Jefferson Ave." All you have to do is give me the name of an artist who has done a station i.d. on the show. You know... when an artist announces: "Hi, this _, and you're listening to..." that kind of thing. The station i.d.'s are usually played around :15 & :45mins of every hour. (Here's a tip check out around 1:15, 1:45, or 2:15 of this week's show). Email your answers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A random draw from all correct answers will be made next week. Here's a link to the site where you can check out the playlist & listen to the archived show: http://www.1groove.com/show.php?s=equinox Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] daft punk & gap?
On Thu, 16 August 2001, Sean Deason wrote: > BOI-OI-OI-OI-OI-NG! ;) I thought that was her... "Don't expect anything and you'll never be disappointed" TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] daft punk & gap?
BTW: "that chick" happens to be Juliette Lewis. With the GAPs commercial history I doubt if they'd settle for no less than the genuine Daft Punk members not just they helmets from Daft Punk. -Original Message- From: Chuck Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] daft punk & gap? ]Anyone caught the Gap commercial with the Daft Punk track in it? ]i wonder if its really them dancing with that chick, or if they got the ]masks on loan. ]i guess it could have been worse. I think I know how it could have been worseor at least equally strange. A Victoria's Secret Ad with 'One More Time' Playing in the background. Not my favorite song, but it made the commercial strangley laughable. I can't wait for 'Strings of Life' to be used in a Wendy's commercial. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:: I'd just like to mention that i find it fascinating that someone who is so very concerned with being forward thinking has obsessively used one single instrument for 10 years or so. mind you richie has done things with the 909 that not many have done. I'm not disrespecting him in ANY way, i'm just trying to see what everyone thinks about this. Without keeping something constant, you have nothing to build with. Constantly changing mediums means you'll never be doing something long enough to truely master it. Who cares if he uses the same instrument for 20 more years, as long as the inspirations are kept and the music is pushed to the limits. Cheers. Dennis _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] daft punk & gap?
i seen them dancing around in an ad for Toonami on Cartoon Network > Anyone caught the Gap commercial with the Daft Punk track in it? > i wonder if its really them dancing with that chick, or if they got the > masks on loan. > i guess it could have been worse. > > > agci > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
> I'm all for "taking it to the next level" and things of that sort, but is MP3 > technology, distribution, and so forth the Final Answer As stated before, it will play other digital formats. So in my opinion, yes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Organ Grinda
Hey, I am looking for some info on Organ Grinda. Anyone able to help? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
hello- i'm new to the list here, but the topic of FinalScratch caught my eye. There seems to be a lot of worry with people feeling threatened by new technology and the repercussions one such technology may have on the "vinyl" industry as a whole. times are changing, but I myself am a true vinyl addict. there's nothing better than digging through bins and bins of old records and finding that one gem. and the same holds true for new vinyl. listening to all the new music coming out, and then owning it. there's really no words to describe it. which leads me to mp3's and such. in case anyone hasn't noticed, look at the number of CD djs that have just popped up over night. Napster, a new technology, spawned loads of overnight DJs who don't take the time to seek out the music...rather their form of seeking the music out is by them passing hot tunes to one another and also downloading them. One record i've been seeking now for years is a Number of Names 'Sharevari'. Can't find it. But do a search on Napster...or better yet, Audiogalaxy. It's there. But owning some MP3, is that special? It somehow makes it all less exciting downloading an MP3. FinalScratch atleast designed a form of technology that allows DJs to play the MP3 file the way they'd spin a record. And I have to say, that's clever. I'm all for "taking it to the next level" and things of that sort, but is MP3 technology, distribution, and so forth the Final Answer -Kered - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Essential Jeff Mills?
Michael Kim wrote on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 about following: > btw, this reminds me... does anybody know if sleeping giants was ever > released on vinyl, and what label+cat# it is? it's the 3rd track on the Axis - The Other Day sleeve notes: sleeping giants, unreleased/Millsart production created sometime in 1993. so, i'd say it's not been released. unless it's been on some recent release. haven't been following. sakke -- "let me dream like a clairvoyant" - download : ego dissolve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Essential Jeff Mills?
Mecca is Axis 004. recently been reissued, pressing is pretty good quality, pick it up. purpose maker is axis 011, and kat moda is pm-002 i think. in my opinion, both are not so essential. good tracks but a little overplayed... i'd look into: growth - axis 010 the other day - axis 015 lifelike - axis 021 (i think) skin deep - pm 008 if - pm 009 axis 009 + axis 009b seawolf - it's on wpa (i think this was done by him?) the other day compilation - axis something, it's on cd. btw, this reminds me... does anybody know if sleeping giants was ever released on vinyl, and what label+cat# it is? it's the 3rd track on the other day compilation. beautiful beatless techno, my 2nd favorite Mills track Mike From: christos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] Essential Jeff Mills? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:42:11 -0400 (EDT) I suggest the following: Mecca (Axis I htink #8), The Purpose Maker (I tink Axis 11 or 12, not to be confused with his label of the same name), Kat Moda (Purpose Maker 3, this is the record with "the Bells") These three are my favroite, though I really like AX-001 "The Tranquilzer EP", and his latest release "UFO". There is a lot of other good stuff too, i suggest listening to them all if you have a chance. -- Christos Michalakis President Hellenic Students Association _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
the Detroit Symphony Orchestra plays music, notes. every time i've heard Richie on the 909, it just sounds booring. he doesn't really seem to program any sort of danceable rhythm. the 909 is a great tool to make a track, but it doesn't make a track by itself. i'm sorry, but those damn handclaps and snares do sound old after about ten seconds if there's nothing else happening in the 'song'. Mike From: "Chuck Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:06 -0400 the reason his last tour was so boring was cuz he wanked the f*ck out of the 909. Agreed. I stopped going to see the Detroit Symphony Orchestra because I just go so sick of all those overused brass and woodwind instruments. You've seen one person play an oboe, you've seen them all. (note: by using the detroit symphony orchestra I have kept this post 'on topic') _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] klubradio popkomm party streams
--- POPKOMM 2001 - live webcasts - 16.08.01 - 18.08.01 starting ~21-22 h GMT+2 --- Thursday, 16.08.01, ARTheater VIVA ZWEI, Electronic Beats & EFA Dance Department pres. "The State of E:motion": 10 years Tresor Daniel Bell, Mad Max, Luke techno ~22.00 Thursday, 16.08.01, Tiefenrausch G2 & Urban Records pres. French Club meets Latino Club Tiefenrausch: Latino Floor feat. Knee Deep, Dan.Jel Schmidt, Sharam Jey, Rene Suess + more acts tba. latin house ~22.00 .. Friday, 17.08.01, ARTheater VIVA Electronic Beats pres. "Tatort" Randall, MC Fats, Walter B, MissDee, Mc Soultrain, Trick or Treat DJ Wicked, M.B., Harry & Dirty O. drum'n bass ~22.00 Friday, 17.08.01, Alter Wartesaal VIVA ZWEI, Electronic Beats, Pop100 & PRINZ pres. "Friendly Electric meets Drum Rhythm Night - Compost 100 Michael Reinboth, Jazzanova, Rainer Trüby, Wordless People, Les Gammas, Viktor Davies + very special guest Live: Zero 7 house + nujazz ~21.00 .. Saturday, 8.08.01, Casino, Floor 1 brought to you by http://www.DJ-Sets.com/ PRINZ, Intergroove pres. Illusion Sven Vaeth (cocoon), Monika Kruse (Terminal M), D.Diggler (Cocoon / raum...musik / Konfekt) Live: Thomas P. Heckmann (Wavescape) techno + house ~22.00 Saturday, 18.08.01, Casino, Floor 3 PRINZ, Intergroove pres. Illusion Derrick May (Transmat), Maral Salmassi (Art of Perception / Konsequent) & Electric Indigo (Indigo Inc.) Live: Aril Brikha (Transmat / Logostic), Green Velvet (Music Man) techno + house ~22.00 Saturday, 18.08.01, ARTheater DE:BUG, WMF Club, VIVA ZWEI Electronic Beats & Native Instruments pres. "Big Audio Earwash" Floor 1: Sven v. Thülen, Highfish & Diringer, Mitja Prinz Live: Rawell, Safety Scissors techno + electro ~22.00 .. check also the live program from the other klubs: Tresor, WMF, Maria, Ostgut in Berlin and Phonodrome in Hamburg with Jazzanova, Ellen Alien, TokTOk, Rob Acid, Sieg ueber die Sonne, Diego, Bob Brown. http://www.klubradio.de [ GEMA/GVL OK - realplayer (basic) needed - download at www.real.com/player ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] daft punk & gap?
From: "Chuck Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]Anyone caught the Gap commercial with the Daft Punk track in it? ]i wonder if its really them dancing with that chick, or if they got the ]masks on loan. ]i guess it could have been worse. I think I know how it could have been worseor at least equally strange. A Victoria's Secret Ad with 'One More Time' Playing in the background. Not my favorite song, but it made the commercial >strangley laughable. I can't wait for 'Strings of Life' to be used in a Wendy's commercial. That might not be too far away...a couple weeks ago "Good Life" was used in an episode of "V.I.P." (Pamela Anderson's post-Baywatch series). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: Africanism + Motor
- Original Message - From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:55 PM Subject: Africanism + Motor > In the immortal words (err sample) of Todd Terry: Music Maestro, Please! > > Gerald played this track in his recent set posted here (nice set BTW): > > Les Enfants Du Bled - Soha (Africanism) So this song also plays out in the OMOA music showacse on Betalounge on 5/26/01 and there's a track immediately following it, that sounds like John Redman (known for collaborations with Braxton Holmes and Common Factor). Can anyone help me figure out this one too? I comes in to the mix to stay at around 1:54:11. It takes over for goood at around 1:54:38. Thanks! Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia <- Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue & info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email <- AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] daft punk & gap?
]Anyone caught the Gap commercial with the Daft Punk track in it? ]i wonder if its really them dancing with that chick, or if they got the ]masks on loan. ]i guess it could have been worse. I think I know how it could have been worseor at least equally strange. A Victoria's Secret Ad with 'One More Time' Playing in the background. Not my favorite song, but it made the commercial strangley laughable. I can't wait for 'Strings of Life' to be used in a Wendy's commercial. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
>From what I remember, the majority of the sounds on "Consumed" was a 303. I believe it was an interview in an issue of Future Music that Richie said that. The future passed you by. Labwerx Music http://www.geocities.com/labwerx - Original Message - From: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 list <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909 > > As far as the 303 goes, Richie Hawtin has used it more subtly and tastefully > than most producers. There's a lot of synth sounds on his records that > people don't recognize as 303 because he doesn't use it in full fart-squawk > mode. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] daft punk & gap?
Anyone caught the Gap commercial with the Daft Punk track in it? i wonder if its really them dancing with that chick, or if they got the masks on loan. i guess it could have been worse. agci - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FinalScratch my back
It's weird, I've listened to dozens of Soiree releases over the years and I think there are only two in my collection. Lots of oddball tracks and, in a way I suppose, they are inventive, but the label releases things that on the whole just don't get me going. btw, Chisel was mentioned -- a label I *really* like -- what's been happening with that? LA Williams was putting out two or more a month there for a while. Recently the "House Muzik" track has been back in my regular rotation: "I know what the people want! They want to be *shocked*! And grved! And they want -- house music!!" phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FinalScratch my back
Wow, there's a label I haven't heard in a while - yes, I dig. Reminds me as well of other labels such as Real Estate Records and Chisel, and a time when Andrew Duke and Giles Dickerson would keep us all updated on such labels. Thanks for the link, listening now :) Respect JasonB > -- > From: M Elliot-Knight[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:23 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] FinalScratch my back > > Anyone else dig the Soiree label? I just picked up the Colours EP and now > I'm looking for more. Great house moozik. > http://www.soireerecords.com/index.htm > > MEK > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
- Original Message - From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909 > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Jayson B. wrote: > > > > point VERY well taken. and i agree. this brings me to another thing i've > > been wondering about: why is the '303' sound supposedly overused, when the > > 909 is not? Why are people so concerned with making new sounds, yet the 909 > > is an exception? curious. > > > Because the 303 is very much a 'foreground' instrument, which people have > used over and over again in tracks in a very stereotyped way. The 303 > is capable of a wider range of sound than people actually use -- there's > a narrow range of knob values that account for most acid tracks. > > The 909 on the other hand is used as a rhythmic bed for other sounds -- > It provides the skeleton for other sounds. The 909 sounds are practically > perfect for the application, too, for whatever reason. Nothing beats > the 909 kick -- the way that it cuts through a mix with a visceral thump, > yet doesn't take up too much room in a mix is phenomenal. > > As far as the 303 goes, Richie Hawtin has used it more subtly and tastefully > than most producers. There's a lot of synth sounds on his records that > people don't recognize as 303 because he doesn't use it in full fart-squawk > mode. I think a good example is that when Herbert started making house he was all about using nothing but samples (except for drum machines). I seem to recall he was even quoted as saying he knew DJs wouldn't play his records if there wasn't familiar percussion. You'll notice that even in Glitch where almost all the percussion has been replaced with synths and odd samples, the kick is still familiar. There's only so much you can do with a kick drum if it's still gonna be a kick. To a degree it is irreplacable if you're going to use one, and to date, most producers have opted for a 909 if using a lower octav e bassline (to my ears anyway), or an 808 if there's a higher-octave bassline. This is just a techno generalization of course, and there are milliions of exceptions. However, like I was saying the other day about musicality in '01, there's definitely a broadening of the acceptable percussion noises used these days, from digging into traditional sample archives and synthesizing/sampling new glitchy sounds. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia <- Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue & info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email <- AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
