[313] Prince/Electrifyin' Mojo interview

2001-08-23 Thread Dave Barnett
 After Minneapolis it was THE place where he broke and the Electrifyin' Mojo
 interview with Prince was widely circulated and introduced me to Mojo.
I have only ever heard snippets of the interview (via napster). Even thought
that a recent moodyman release used a bit of the interview (untitled black
label 12/ workaholic??) does anybody know where i can listen to the whole
interview?,has anybody put it in online?, was it released as a cd for fan
club members only? 

Dave


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[313] Fwd: Life Fest- Windsor, Aug. 25

2001-08-23 Thread Lorie R





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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:32:58 -0400 (EDT)

hi everyone,

In order to make things as easy as possible for those of you living in
the U.S., tickets for life fest are now available at all Record Time
locations (Roseville and Ferndale), Threads, and selected clubs in the
Detroit area for the remainder of the week.

Tickets are $20 U.S. in advance and more at the door.  visit
http//:www.lifefestcanada.com for more details.

see you all there.




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[313] oops

2001-08-23 Thread Lorie R
Before someone unleashes a bitchfest... please excuse that last message... I 
was told to FWD it to 313 and didn't realize j3s allread did. I just got 
home from Kings Island and still feel like Im on a rollercoaster.


For those of you going to lifefest.. have a blast. I wish I could be there!

Lorie





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Re: [313] Prince/Electrifyin' Mojo interview

2001-08-23 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It was a bootleg - one of those spurious 'interview' disks you would get in
HMV.

I have it somewhere along with unnumerable tapes/CDs of shows from
everywhere (D included). I am giving a lot away to friends but haven't
organised it because of work commitments (two full-time jobs).

I reckon you could get it easily through one of the collections mags. I know
there would be heaps around Aust.

 After Minneapolis it was THE place where he broke and the Electrifyin' Mojo
 interview with Prince was widely circulated and introduced me to Mojo.
I have only ever heard snippets of the interview (via napster). Even thought
that a recent moodyman release used a bit of the interview (untitled black
label 12/ workaholic??) does anybody know where i can listen to the whole
interview?,has anybody put it in online?, was it released as a cd for fan
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RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
i think the early dub pioneers such as lee perry, king tubby, augustus pablo
deserve a mention and would be closer to techno than prince/hendrix/wonder.

these guys were using basic studio technology with advanced mixing ideas.
adding echo and reverb effects to create some mind blowing soundscapes
all usually recorded innovatley on 4-track tape/desk. 

then the early techno ppl were also doing a similar thing using old drum
machines and sythns and bedroom studios in a new way. both used 
the mixing desk as an instrument.

the similarities are all there to this day in the techno of many artists, the 
basic
channel stuff is in a way revisting the dub of old.

 -Original Message-
 From: laura gavoor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:39 PM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
 
 I think if you were to ask some of the source innovators, both American and 
 Euro alike, Jimi Hendrix's name would arise more often than Prince's.  While 
 Prince was a huge influence, Jimi built the world's most innovative 
 recording studio, Electric Ladyland Studios, in 1968 (I think) and up until 
 very recently...it remained one of THE most innovative recording studios 
 because of his obsession with recording and performing technology as THE 
 means to get down on tape the sounds he had in his head.
 
 Secondarily and perhaps without most artists even realizing this fact would 
 be Stevie Wonder.  His obsession with electronic keyboards evolved into the 
 very first 'do everything yourself' recording studio back in the 70's.  I 
 recall Stevie talking about how and why he records most every track in a 
 song he's composing all by himself.  Pretty much the same reason as Jimi's 
 that he knew what sound(s) he wanted and was often frustrated in trying to 
 communicate it to an engineer or musician in order to obtain it.
 
 He felt that with the age of the synthesizer a songwriter/composer had the 
 ability to personalize their music and sound unlike anything that had come 
 before...even though the same notes in a scale were present...they had never 
 before sound like THAT.  Moreover, the personal studio he developed back 
 then gave him the luxury of recording the moment he was inspired to do 
 so...at any hour of the day.
 
 Stevie, like Jimi, innovated a lot of gear to suit his needs, and because he 
 was Stevie Wonder, a living genius, the keyboard companies bent over 
 backwards to accommodate him.
 
 Don't forget that Songs in the Key of Life is considered by artists and 
 industry alike to be one of the most brilliant pieces of popular music ever 
 put out in one project.  If VH-1 ever re-runs that (dunno the name of it) 
 special one hour program just about that particular album...I highly 
 recommend its viewing.  The musicians interviewed, from Miles Davis to Mick 
 Jagger, were awed by the quality of the sound on that LP and explain in far 
 greater detail why it marked a turning point in recording history.
 
 THEN came George ClintonTHEN came Prince.
 
 humbly offered..
 
 
 From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:34:12 -0400
 
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[313] re: flux / UR

2001-08-23 Thread seth redmond
So who's going to this little shindig then?


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RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread David González de la Cámara
I agree... dub has been s important for techno. remember as well chain 
reaction and profan.

btw, no influence came from europe?  (same old discussion :P )

daweed


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 i think the early dub pioneers such as lee perry, king tubby, augustus
 pablo
 deserve a mention and would be closer to techno than
 prince/hendrix/wonder.
 
 these guys were using basic studio technology with advanced mixing
 ideas.
 adding echo and reverb effects to create some mind blowing soundscapes
 all usually recorded innovatley on 4-track tape/desk. 
 
 then the early techno ppl were also doing a similar thing using old drum
 machines and sythns and bedroom studios in a new way. both used 
 the mixing desk as an instrument.
 
 the similarities are all there to this day in the techno of many
 artists, the basic
 channel stuff is in a way revisting the dub of old.

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Re: [313] re: flux / UR

2001-08-23 Thread Toby Frith
I'm going.  Chris Finke advised me that Mr Mad Mike WILL be there.  Some
confusion as to whether the Manchester Gig is still going ahead.


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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: [313] re: flux / UR


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RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Mike Taylor
It really does not apply in this situation. we are talking Detroit 85-91, 
and it doesnt show in the music. The roots of that stuff is 
Kraftwerk/Prince/Italio/New Wave/Electro.


Yeah, you cannot deny the influence the Jamaicans had in general on music, 
but their music did not become a major influence on Techno until like 92-93, 
and then primarily in Europe. Jamaica by way of Europe definitely influenced 
Detroit, but not until after the first wave had already run its course.


When is BMG going to throw down a 5 page dance music essay and school us 
like it was 96 again?


Take care,
mt


i think the early dub pioneers such as lee perry, king tubby, augustus 
pablo

deserve a mention and would be closer to techno than prince/hendrix/wonder.

these guys were using basic studio technology with advanced mixing ideas.
adding echo and reverb effects to create some mind blowing soundscapes
all usually recorded innovatley on 4-track tape/desk.

then the early techno ppl were also doing a similar thing using old drum
machines and sythns and bedroom studios in a new way. both used
the mixing desk as an instrument.

the similarities are all there to this day in the techno of many artists, 
the basic

channel stuff is in a way revisting the dub of old.

 -Original Message-
 From:  laura gavoor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:  Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:39 PM
 To:313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:   Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

 I think if you were to ask some of the source innovators, both American 
and
 Euro alike, Jimi Hendrix's name would arise more often than Prince's.  
While

 Prince was a huge influence, Jimi built the world's most innovative
 recording studio, Electric Ladyland Studios, in 1968 (I think) and up 
until

 very recently...it remained one of THE most innovative recording studios
 because of his obsession with recording and performing technology as THE
 means to get down on tape the sounds he had in his head.

 Secondarily and perhaps without most artists even realizing this fact 
would
 be Stevie Wonder.  His obsession with electronic keyboards evolved into 
the
 very first 'do everything yourself' recording studio back in the 70's.  
I

 recall Stevie talking about how and why he records most every track in a
 song he's composing all by himself.  Pretty much the same reason as 
Jimi's
 that he knew what sound(s) he wanted and was often frustrated in trying 
to

 communicate it to an engineer or musician in order to obtain it.

 He felt that with the age of the synthesizer a songwriter/composer had 
the
 ability to personalize their music and sound unlike anything that had 
come
 before...even though the same notes in a scale were present...they had 
never

 before sound like THAT.  Moreover, the personal studio he developed back
 then gave him the luxury of recording the moment he was inspired to do
 so...at any hour of the day.

 Stevie, like Jimi, innovated a lot of gear to suit his needs, and 
because he

 was Stevie Wonder, a living genius, the keyboard companies bent over
 backwards to accommodate him.

 Don't forget that Songs in the Key of Life is considered by artists 
and
 industry alike to be one of the most brilliant pieces of popular music 
ever
 put out in one project.  If VH-1 ever re-runs that (dunno the name of 
it)

 special one hour program just about that particular album...I highly
 recommend its viewing.  The musicians interviewed, from Miles Davis to 
Mick
 Jagger, were awed by the quality of the sound on that LP and explain in 
far

 greater detail why it marked a turning point in recording history.

 THEN came George ClintonTHEN came Prince.

 humbly offered..


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 Subject: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:34:12 -0400
 
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Re: [313] Stacey Pullen In Melbourne

2001-08-23 Thread Duncan Robertson

yeah this was one of the best nights out and the best music I have heard
for ages! I'm not hugely into housy stuff but it was good he mixed
styles around so such a long set didn't get monotonous. great use of FX,
usually DJs messing with FX annoys me but he did it just so well.

and having a prepaid ticket meant I was permitted to walk the hallowed
grounds of expensive, super snob seven nightclub without putting up with
the arbitrary and bullshit decisions of the bouncers.


Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 
 How amazing was Stacey Pullen in Melbourne last night - a Wednesday, it's
 raining, it's winter, there's a recession on, and the house is packed. Five
 hours plus.
 He played EVERY style, jazzy house through to deep house through to vocal

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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread cinqueorange
well. 

I think that there are connections among all of the work by these artists on 
techno.

Techno is nothing but more synthesized sounding house with more abstract 
sounding concepts. There is dub in there, R  B, funk, disco and whatever 
else. Another branch on the Black music tree that gets its roots in gospel.

The techno folks may or may not know about Wonder's studio work or Lee Perry 
but the similarities are there. It's like serendipidity. But in anything I've 
read they always cite P-Funk, Italo Disco and Kraftwerk.

Kraftwerk loves James Brown. P-Funk comes from Brown, Hendrix, gospel, R  B. 
Italo  disco gets some of its imperatives from r  b and dub.

I think when it comes to something like music, it's hard to pinpoint to one 
place. These artists listen to so much and the people they listen to have 
their influences.

I don't even know what if anything radio would have to do with it.

A lot of the electro pop from Europe the techno artists like comes from its 
own place.

for example, I recently learned that Alleys of Your Mind is just Dr. No 
by Ultravox and what were they into?? It sounds like funk to me as one source.

I think Prince is just one more person these artists like.

Five

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Re: [313] re: flux / UR

2001-08-23 Thread Mark Hughes
Some confusion as to whether the Manchester Gig is
still going ahead.

Confusion???  What do you mean confusion?   
Tell me more as I have tickets.

Ta
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Re: [313] re: flux / UR

2001-08-23 Thread Toby Frith
Dunno - there were a few rumours flying about that it had been cancelled
that's all.
Best to just check with the venue I suppose.


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Subject: Re: [313] re: flux / UR


 Some confusion as to whether the Manchester Gig is
 still going ahead.

 Confusion???  What do you mean confusion?
 Tell me more as I have tickets.

 Ta
 Mark


 
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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Ian
on 8/23/01 6:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for example, I recently learned that Alleys of Your Mind is just Dr. No
 by Ultravox and what were they into?? It sounds like funk to me as one source.

You must mean Mr. X, off of Vienna (1980).  Classic New Wave.
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Re: [313] re: flux / UR - Vauxhall!

2001-08-23 Thread Anya Stang
OK, I know it's prolly getting to a point where everyone's annoyed by reading 
this. Sorry... :)
I'm going too, plus: Dan, Simon - you out there still?
Seeya there - anyone else wanna hook up drop me a private email... :)
Cheers,

Anya

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Subject: Re: [313] re: flux / UR

 I'm going.  Chris Finke advised me that Mr Mad Mike WILL be there.  Some
 confusion as to whether the Manchester Gig is still going ahead.
 
 
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 From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:08 AM
 Subject: [313] re: flux / UR
 
 
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[313] Life Fest Pre-Party Aug 24 (unofficial)

2001-08-23 Thread dj revolver

CONNECT
***
A night of electronic exploration and community. Hit the main room for 
pumpin' techno and house and lose yourself in the front lounge with 
downtempo, ambient and experimental frequencies.


Friday, August 24, 2001

Amsterdam Lounge
Windsor, Canada
261 Pelissier St
519-977-7232

*Neksis/313/mp313 Room - Main Room*
PSilopoliSP (aka Keith Kemp, gammaplayers.com)
DJ Ben WU (GreyTech, Neksis)
Steven Roy (Thinkbox.ca)
Tristan Watkins (aka Phonopsia, MetroTechno, mp313.com)
Mercenary  (Chicago, mp313)

*Thinkbox Room - Front Lounge*
Bill Van Loo (chromedecay.org)
Rob Theakston (planet e, ear3)
dj on/off
Christopher Bissonnette (Thinkbox.ca)
Chris McNamara (Thinkbox.ca)


***part of the lifefest party weekend***



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Re: [313] re: flux / UR - Vauxhall!

2001-08-23 Thread Toby Frith
someone on the Overload board commented that the Manchester event has been
pulled as the promoter is unable to pay for the acts.

www.overloadmedia.co.uk


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Subject: Re: [313] re: flux / UR - Vauxhall!


 OK, I know it's prolly getting to a point where everyone's annoyed by
reading this. Sorry... :)
 I'm going too, plus: Dan, Simon - you out there still?
 Seeya there - anyone else wanna hook up drop me a private email... :)
 Cheers,

 Anya

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 Sent: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:08:48 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
 Subject: Re: [313] re: flux / UR

  I'm going.  Chris Finke advised me that Mr Mad Mike WILL be there.  Some
  confusion as to whether the Manchester Gig is still going ahead.
 
 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:08 AM
  Subject: [313] re: flux / UR
 
 
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[313] UR - Manchester

2001-08-23 Thread Mark Hughes
AAAahhh fu**in gutted!!!
  :(

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[313] kind of OT

2001-08-23 Thread David González de la Cámara
Hi there,

This might not be of interest to some of you (sorry).

A new mailing list has recently been set up. It's purpose is the same as this 
one, but is focused on Madrid's and furthermore Spain's fast growing techno 
scene.

Since I know there are quite a lot of spanish-speaking subscribers in 313, I 
thought I'd let you know.

the name of the list is madrid-techno

to subscribe send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the first line of the body:

subscribe madrid-techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thnx and sorry again for the dissgresion

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[313] London 313'ers

2001-08-23 Thread Ryan Brogan
Anyone know the best sources on-line for events in london? 313'ers in the
area interested in meeting up feelfree to message back privately.

thanks in advance.

ryan


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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Ed Wong Hau Pepilu Tivrusky IV
||Another branch on the Black music tree that gets its roots in gospel.

Don't forget Kraftwerk, as well as Giorgio Moroder, and nobody has mentioned 
Industrial music; all
very significant branches of the White music tree.

Also, don't forget Tomita; of the rarely mentioned Yellow music tree.

If this sounds silly, or even offensive; I agree. 

I've heard black, white, yellow, and even purple music before, but it's been 
years since I dropped
any acid. 



 misappropriating cultural influences since 1971,

 
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RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread M Elliot-Knight
I'd say that Jamacians did have a major influence, not just with dub though. 
Look at turntablism and New York's hip-hop/electro scene, in particular one 
DJ Kool Herc (born in Kingston, Jamaica). He brought in the idea of sampling 
and breakbeats. Without him might hardcore and drum  bass never been 
realized?
Techno is like a dandelion...the roots go deep, just pull on them and see if 
you get the whole thing. That's my new motto by the way.;)


MEK



From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:50:17 -0400

It really does not apply in this situation. we are talking Detroit 85-91,
and it doesnt show in the music. The roots of that stuff is
Kraftwerk/Prince/Italio/New Wave/Electro.

Yeah, you cannot deny the influence the Jamaicans had in general on music,
but their music did not become a major influence on Techno until like 
92-93,
and then primarily in Europe. Jamaica by way of Europe definitely 
influenced

Detroit, but not until after the first wave had already run its course.

When is BMG going to throw down a 5 page dance music essay and school us
like it was 96 again?

Take care,
mt



i think the early dub pioneers such as lee perry, king tubby, augustus
pablo
deserve a mention and would be closer to techno than 
prince/hendrix/wonder.


these guys were using basic studio technology with advanced mixing ideas.
adding echo and reverb effects to create some mind blowing soundscapes
all usually recorded innovatley on 4-track tape/desk.

then the early techno ppl were also doing a similar thing using old drum
machines and sythns and bedroom studios in a new way. both used
the mixing desk as an instrument.

the similarities are all there to this day in the techno of many artists,
the basic
channel stuff is in a way revisting the dub of old.

 -Original Message-
 From:  laura gavoor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:  Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:39 PM
 To:313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:   Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

 I think if you were to ask some of the source innovators, both American
and
 Euro alike, Jimi Hendrix's name would arise more often than Prince's.
While
 Prince was a huge influence, Jimi built the world's most innovative
 recording studio, Electric Ladyland Studios, in 1968 (I think) and up
until
 very recently...it remained one of THE most innovative recording 
studios
 because of his obsession with recording and performing technology as 
THE

 means to get down on tape the sounds he had in his head.

 Secondarily and perhaps without most artists even realizing this fact
would
 be Stevie Wonder.  His obsession with electronic keyboards evolved into
the
 very first 'do everything yourself' recording studio back in the 70's.
I
 recall Stevie talking about how and why he records most every track in 
a

 song he's composing all by himself.  Pretty much the same reason as
Jimi's
 that he knew what sound(s) he wanted and was often frustrated in trying
to
 communicate it to an engineer or musician in order to obtain it.

 He felt that with the age of the synthesizer a songwriter/composer had
the
 ability to personalize their music and sound unlike anything that had
come
 before...even though the same notes in a scale were present...they had
never
 before sound like THAT.  Moreover, the personal studio he developed 
back

 then gave him the luxury of recording the moment he was inspired to do
 so...at any hour of the day.

 Stevie, like Jimi, innovated a lot of gear to suit his needs, and
because he
 was Stevie Wonder, a living genius, the keyboard companies bent over
 backwards to accommodate him.

 Don't forget that Songs in the Key of Life is considered by artists
and
 industry alike to be one of the most brilliant pieces of popular music
ever
 put out in one project.  If VH-1 ever re-runs that (dunno the name of
it)
 special one hour program just about that particular album...I highly
 recommend its viewing.  The musicians interviewed, from Miles Davis to
Mick
 Jagger, were awed by the quality of the sound on that LP and explain in
far
 greater detail why it marked a turning point in recording history.

 THEN came George ClintonTHEN came Prince.

 humbly offered..


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[313] todd terry

2001-08-23 Thread ryan burns


theres a track ive been looking for but cant seem to find the right version. 
 its todd terrys back to the batmobil bango.  the only version i can find 
has a cheesy break in the middle.  im looking for the one kenny larkin 
always plays.  anyone know which record its on.


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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread deliverator
Well,

Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary
influences was Jamaican reggae  dubb.  Just had to bring it all back full
circle.

Actually pbs had a very interesting show a couple weeks ago regarding the
influence of reggae on punk music.  I was fabu to hear that the original
version of 'heart of glass' was reggae :-)

jim

http://www.assasins.net
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 On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, M Elliot-Knight wrote:

  I'd say that Jamacians did have a major influence, not just with dub
though.
  Look at turntablism and New York's hip-hop/electro scene, in particular
one
  DJ Kool Herc (born in Kingston, Jamaica). He brought in the idea of
sampling
  and breakbeats. Without him might hardcore and drum  bass never been
  realized?

 I haven't wanted to get social sciency on the list...but I have questions
 about this.  Are we making a distinction between primary and secondary
 influences?  It seems to me that a primary influence--like Mojo--would
 have to be an influence that is direct.  I listen to Mojo ergo I am
 influenced.  I listen to Kraftwerk, ergo I am influenced.  It also seems
 to me that a secondary influence--like the Jamaican one here--would have
 to be an influence that is INdirect.  Kool Herc created the
 breakbeat...some disco DJ picked up this and influenced someone in
 Chicago...who happened to spin while Derrick May was working in a record
 store.  Herc is an influence then...but not a primary influence.

 peace
 lks



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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Scotto
you can not forget Can!
they were making some very forward music in the late 60's.
holger czukay is still producing

there is a remix album with a carl craig remix of future days. most of the
remixes are jungle. the black radio and steve shelly rmx is my favorite.

scotto
ps. tago mago is my favorite. oh yea is a crazy tune. anyone know what
language it is in? I've always suspected the backwards vocal.


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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-23 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 now that is something that I would have to ask them but the only thing I'm
 familar with is the famous statement,  Techno is George Clinton and
 Kraftwerk in an elevator.
 That statement right there opens up a whole bunch of influences.
 I can only assume they listened to music in their homes, radio and whatever
 else but I don't know that for sure. Just the story about Juan turning
 Derrick onto Kraftwerk.

Oh this makes a great deal of sense.  Thinking about my own musical
influences as a bedroom DJ, some primary influences are Kraftwerk,
Juan Atkins as Cybotron, and Afrika Bambaata...as far as MUSIC is
concerned.  These three artists were the ones that expanded my mind as far
as dance music is concerned.  The influence is really simple...I hear
their music and it affects me somehow.

Now why THIS music affects me and not some OTHER music is a whole 'nother
bag of worms.

Then there are the non-musical primary influences.  Ultraman, Johnny Socko
and His Giant Robot (or Giant Robot), Monster Movie week on Channel 7,
Battle of the PLanetsare all non-musical primary influences.  They
took me into a new world that was intensely futuristic, and now that I
think about it, intensely non-white.  I saw these movies/tv shows and they
influenced me.

Now there are a whole HOST of secondary influences that go into these
primary influences...as well as a host of tertiary influences that caused
me to be affected by the first level influences.

Feel me?


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[313] Green House Top 40

2001-08-23 Thread Aaron Michelson
Hey hey,

It's about time I sent out a chart, eh?

Note: You can find out more about the Green House Record Pool by visiting
our brand-spanking new Web site at http://www.greengalactic.com.

If you are interested in servicing Green House Record Pool, or require
further details about our DJ roster, charts, etc., please feel free to drop
me a line or ring me at the # listed below.

Green House Record Pool's address:
1680 N. Vine Street, Suite 1118
Los Angeles, CA 90028

Sincerely,

Aaron Michelson
Green Galactic
fon: 323.466.5141
fax: 323.466.5121
http://www.greengalactic.com


WEEK OF AUGUST 20, 2001
Green House Record Pool Chart
Director, Aaron Michelson

1. S. I. Futures - We Are Not a Rock Band (Novamute)
2. Peace Division - Body  Soul/OurHouseMusic (Low Pressings)
3. Simple Pleasures (Bootleg)
4. Rithma - More Funny House Music (Beau Monde)
5. Universal Principles - Latin Stroll (Soma)
6. Monkey Business - Monkedelic Phunk remixes (Phunked Up)
7. Slam - Alien Radio (Soma)
8. Uberzone - Bounce (Astralwerks)
9. Funky Derrick - Love Me Still Remixes (Clip)
10. Scott Findley - Deepinit (Nordic Trax CD-R)
11. Depeche Mode - I Feel Loved (Reprise)
12. Funk D'Void - Diabla (Soma)
13. Home  Garden - Innocent Remixes (Nordic Trax)
14. Mint Royale - Show Me (Faith and Hope)
15. New Order - Crystal (Reprise
16. Hakan Lidbo - Sinful Sadie (Soco Audio)
17. Zentz, Bryan - Watch the Sun (In-Tec)
18. ADNY - Never Leave You (Turbo)
19. Birdy Meet Madrid De Los Austrias - Star Alliance (Birdy)
20. Halo - Dirty Soil (Bluem)
21. Jay Salino - Here Is (Statra)
22. Double 99 - 7th High (Arista)
23. Sir Piers and Si Ashton vs. Tribe Called Quest - Bonita Applebum (?)
24. Bran Van 3000 - Astounded (Grand Royal)
25. Keoki - Astounded (Moonshine)
26. Brommage Dub - Funky Badja (Svek)
27. Joshua - Watch the Bass (Tweekin)
28. Felix Da House Cat feat. Miss Kitten - Silver Screen, Shower Scene
(Rockers)
29. 2nd Generation - Musicians are Morons (Novamute)
30. Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (Virgin)
31. J Lo - Play *Rui da Silva remix (Epic)
32. Faithless - Muhammad Ali (Cheeky)
33. Fake Blonde (Bootleg)
34. Modjo - Chillin' (MCA)
35. Electric Avenue (Bootleg)
36. Afro Medusa - Pasilda (Jellybean)
37. Tall Paul vs. INXS - Precious Heart (Decode)
38. Depeche Mode - Dream On (Reprise)
39. Dub Pistols - Official Chemical (Geffen)
40. Squarepusher - My Red Hot Car (Warp)


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[313] Streaming Titonton and Tejada....

2001-08-23 Thread Bulger, Tim
Check out John Tejada and Titonton Duvante sets streaming at
http://cerebrum.dnalounge.com/archive/ ... 

Enjoy,
Tim

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