[313] Mmmm..... sugababes....

2002-02-14 Thread Tosh Cooey
He said Sugababes, hu uh uh uh huh hu huhu uh. mm..

Overload was a good pop track you have to admit, and they're so giggly
cute when they're being interviewed.

Tosh


Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:01:45 +0100
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Subject: RE: [313] gary numan
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This is definately off topic, but this morning I heard on the radion
that the new Sugababes single is going to be a remake of Are Friends
Electric.
After some research I found that it's going to be a mix of Gary Numan
and Adina howard. You can download a fragment here:
http://www.mandymoore4always.org/sugababes/main.html. It sounds
absolutely horrible.

Joost


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[313] ebay is my friend

2002-02-14 Thread Peter Leidy
sorry to the spam-haters,

i'm getting rid of some house records and other goodies that have been
collecting dust: Derrick Carter,Chris Nazuka,JT Donaldson, Blaze, Cajmere,
Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Joy Division, Residents, and more. Also selling
a Korg ES-1 sampler :)

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=pbl3include=0since=-1sort=3rows=25

or search by seller id: pbl3


later,

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[313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread D.Maj. DDBB-P
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i was listening to telekon last night and even more
impressed than 
usual,
have any 313 artists used obvious numan samples? i
know there were a
collection of remixes that came out about 4/5 years
ago - the only one 
i
remember is dave clarkes cars.

cheers

neil


There's a cd called 'Random (02)- mixes of Gary Numan'
(1998, Beggars Banquet Records).
I don't usually buy mixes of old songs I loved in my
youth. They usually dissapoint. But I saw this for
cheap at Kims in NYC a couple years ago and picked it
up. This is a collection of previously released 12.
There's a few reviews I found on the web. Here's one:
http://www.napadogan.com/pr_beggars%20banquet_gary%20numan_random(02)_022698.htm

Alot of the mixes on here do no justice to the
originals but I like a fewof these. Here's some
thoughts:

Robert Armani - Metal : Reminds me of The Knacks's 'My
Sharona' ?!

DJ Hell - Dans Le Parc : Nice low bass..dig it.

Greenhaus - I Die, You Die : Zzz

Mike Dearborn - Cars : Nothing like the original
track. Dig it.

Dave Clarke - Cars : I would honestly rather listen to
the original song. He stays pretty close to it anyway.
I'm guessing that's Dave's point and that he a big fan
of Gary's music also. 

Dave Angel - Warriors : I could do without this track
on the cd. Not my cup of (green) tea I guess. I'm also
not that familar with the original. I know his first
3-4 solo and Tubeway Army albums better.

Liberator D.J.s - Are Friend's Electric : It would
take alot for me to like a remake of one my fave early
synth-pop songs. This mix certainly didn't do it.

Steve Stoll - Remember I was Vapours : This would be
nice thrown into a set me thinks?

Claude Young - We Are Glass : Not bad but I'm starting
to fast forward these tracks so I can throw on some of
my some of my Tubeway Army LPs and GN cds..

Alex Hazzard - Films : I have to turn this off after
50 secs.

Peter lazanby - The Iceman Comes : A pretty Idmish
mix of this track. A nice listen. I don't think I've
heard the original?

side note: When I talked to Gary a few years ago in
London I got the impression that he's pretty
protective of his material. It may be hard to get
samples cleared by him but if there's money
involved...

,Dave











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[313] FA (ebay)

2002-02-14 Thread Mxyzptlk
More up. Tek 9, The Solid Doctor, Soul Oddity, Dub Mix Convention, 
Drexciya, Surgeon, Modernist, Syndrome (merck 001), Genf,

Juan Atkins, more. No reserves. Thanx.
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Re: [313] Derrick Interview

2002-02-14 Thread Fred Heutte
That's a very good interview:

  Unlike those unfortunate others, after years and years, all of the great
  Detroit producers have stuck together, according to Derrick. I think 
  that we did pretty well for Detroit. We stuck together, we've been really 
  united on the front. There comes a time when you have to open up and play 
  hardball with people, because if you don't, they will look you over and 
  they will move on.  And that's where we are now; we stayed underground for 
  many years in Detroit.  We stuck close to the front. But now, we have to 
  start to comprehend and realize what's happening in the industry, and if 
  we don't start playing some ball, we're out. They've found other ways to 
  move without us now. The music doesn't need Detroit anymore. The music 
  doesn't need Chicago anymore. What we do is respect it and consider it 
  always at the forefront, but it's not considered necessary anymore. So at 
  some point we have to realize and we have to say, Now, we have to open 
  our doors and evolve. They've figured out ways to move on and evolve 
  without us.



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[313] 313 sighting: French and Saunders

2002-02-14 Thread Brian Dillard
Watching Gentlemen Prefer French  Saunders last night - DVD of highlights
from the British sketch-comedy show that spawned Absolutely Fabulous. The
actual sketch that originated the AbFab idea was called Modern Mother and
Daughter and it's included on this DVD. The sketch takes place during a
party where the mom character's friends are all throwing down while the
daughter character is trying to study. What is the party music? Good Life.
My jaw dropped. AbFab had lots of jokes about rave culture over the years;
both the Pet Shop Boys and Junior Vasquez have cut AbFab records. But this
is the only 313 reference I know of in their oeuvre - Frankie Knuckles is as
close as AbFab itself ever got.

Brian

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[313] Fw: Angel Rockcliffe

2002-02-14 Thread Michael D Tyrer

From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: s mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:24
Subject: Angel Rockcliffe


 I would just like to second scott's comments here.
 Around 93/95 Dave Angel was one of my top rated DJs.  He was always
 massively inventive and kept u interested throughout his sets.  I have one
 brilliant tape of his here which I still play regularly to this day.
 I saw Dave play about 3 times in reasonably quick succession about a year
 ago, twice here in and around London and once on continent - cant remember
 where.  I was very disappointed on each of the 3 occasions.
 There's a very close tight-knit nepotic London techno scene and my
 sentiments go the same way about the triumvirate.  Will Umek

(http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Record
 edMediaID=69685) who I have playing in the background come to rue the day?

 Sorry to waffle and now side track - I saw Umek / Valentino down the End
on
 Saturday Night at Billy's Open to Torture.  I'd seen the trio at Atomic
 Jam on NYE and thought Valentino played a mighty impressive set.  This
time
 I thought he sucked ... so boring.  In fact my m8s went home.  I'm a
 stalwart ... and thank god.  Umek started off in the same lame vein
 Valentino had finished off.  It took him about 20 minutes to find his
groove
 (and he's got it about 17/18 mins into the Groovetech set again) and from
 there, well, probably one of the best sets I've heard in the last 18
months.
 I totally enjoyed listening to something which kept me interested and
 sounded so very different.

 I'm sorry, I'm not a DJ, not a producer, not a mixer - so I don't know one
 tune from another but I think I have a good ear : I cant tell you what he
 does which is different but I certainly but Umek up on the pedestal I once
 held Mr Angel.




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  hmm.  I don't know where this thread started but to comment on these two
  artistically I would say that Angel has lost his way recently (in mine
  eyes), Rockliffe isn't a bad dj but I am not too sure about his
 productions.
  He needs to move way from that Carl Cox, Billy Nasty, Jim Masters stable
 to
  evolve (if he has that in the tank - remains...).
 
  Rachmad is probably the most in touch detroit-influenced black producer
I
  can think of over here and he is from Holland. Everyone else is lost in
 the
  commercial cancer that is UK garage. 4-hero are too much of an
innovation
  now to be linked with influences all the time, 'the boyz done good.'
 




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[313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread Michael D Tyrer

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:31
Subject: Hall  Oates


 In the days before House, Techno ... there was indeed some dirty soul
 singers
 and Hall and Oates were definately two of them.. So how come no one
remixed
 them...


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 Subject: RE: [313] Black techno artists


 
  ... See how ridiculous this gets? Admittedly this is just a tactless
thing
  to say, but I can see where he's coming from. Janos, imho 'blackness'
such
  as it is, is not a question of degree, it's probably more a quality of
  ethnicity and concommittent experience which either is - or isn't.
 
  Which is why, to me Daryl Hall  John Oates (to use a perhaps too
obvious
  example) are amongst the blackest soul singers around ... sigh, does
 anybody
  get this?





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Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread DJ Entropy
From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In the days before House, Techno ... there was indeed some dirty soul
 singers
 and Hall and Oates were definately two of them.. So how come no one
remixed
 them...

I used to play Maneater in my jungle/dnb sets back in 95/96...not that any 
of you care...  :)



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Fw: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Michael D Tyrer



 Mark Dale is the London brother of Colin Dale
 There's a third brother Trevor who has had productions as I think 'Dark
 Star'
 
 Mark Van Dale is a dutchman 
 



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[313] Re: G-Flame Mr. G

2002-02-14 Thread Ken Meier
What I have slight difficulty with is just a statement saying it should be 
fairly evidentetc. Asks more questions than it answers and leaves the 
possibility of answers which aren't correct ... 

Speaking of statements that make no sense...

So, anyway,
Ken

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[313] Gary Numan

2002-02-14 Thread Kerr Graham
Is anyone aware of any instrumental versions of Cars?



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RE: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken
MD is cut from exactly same cloth mix-wise  taste-wise ... he's definitely
related although a lot younger ... so I wouldn't be 100% sure it's 'brother'
... Mark Dale is seriously underground. How'd you hear about him?!

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Is his brother Mark Dale?

curious
fab.


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 Doesn't he co-produce House of 909 stuff?


 Sadly his show seems to have subsided into bland S.London tech-how's your
 wife stuff, the last time I listened anyway.



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  Dem wuz de daze ... He doesn't produce much of his own material though
 does
  he? Can you name anything by him? I have the Abstrakt Dance compilation
on
  Logic out in 1999  the one from last year which came in
double-mixed cd
  format (amongst the better mix cds I picked up in '01). On the '99 one,
  apparently, that last track 'Urban Intersect' is either him, or a
  collaboration - but that was just a vague allusion in the review I read
at
  the time ...
 
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  Someone mentioned Colin Dale in an earlier post.
  
  Did anyone else used to listen to his show?
  
  It was killer, I stll have a tape of the 'Abstrakt Dance '90' show.
  When I think back, these were definately one of the first techno
  experiences I had.
  
  Oh, happy days, I remember him dropping UR no.1 and mashing the
 'Beginning'
  into 'Infoworld'
  At that time it still sounded like a pirate show, he'd do shouts over
all
  those old wicked tracks, 'Big shout out to Julie who's watching
prisoner
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Re: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Tim Maughan

Mark dale is def Colin Dale's brother.

on 14/2/02 10:42 am, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MD is cut from exactly same cloth mix-wise  taste-wise ... he's definitely
 related although a lot younger ... so I wouldn't be 100% sure it's 'brother'
  Mark Dale is seriously underground. How'd you hear about him?!
 
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 Is his brother Mark Dale?
 
 curious
 fab.
 
 
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 Doesn't he co-produce House of 909 stuff?
 
 
 Sadly his show seems to have subsided into bland S.London tech-how's your
 wife stuff, the last time I listened anyway.
 
 
 
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 Dem wuz de daze ... He doesn't produce much of his own material though
 does
 he? Can you name anything by him? I have the Abstrakt Dance compilation
 on
 Logic out in 1999  the one from last year which came in
 double-mixed cd
 format (amongst the better mix cds I picked up in '01). On the '99 one,
 apparently, that last track 'Urban Intersect' is either him, or a
 collaboration - but that was just a vague allusion in the review I read
 at
 the time ...
 
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 Someone mentioned Colin Dale in an earlier post.
 
 Did anyone else used to listen to his show?
 
 It was killer, I stll have a tape of the 'Abstrakt Dance '90' show.
 When I think back, these were definately one of the first techno
 experiences I had.
 
 Oh, happy days, I remember him dropping UR no.1 and mashing the
 'Beginning'
 into 'Infoworld'
 At that time it still sounded like a pirate show, he'd do shouts over
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 those old wicked tracks, 'Big shout out to Julie who's watching
 prisoner
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[313] surveillance recordings?

2002-02-14 Thread tom churchill
I picked up a great 12 in Rubadub yesterday by DFA (Deterministic Finite
Automata), snappily titled 'Microstructural Chracterization' on Surveillance
Recordings from Detroit. 3 tracks of minimal but extremely soulful and
melodic electronic house/techno, very very nice indeed. Just wondering if
anyone had any more info on DFA or the Surveillance label, and if there's
any other recommended material worth checking out?

Their website (http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/) looks great but
there's no actual content...

Cheers,

Tom

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| emoticon recordings uk
| emot 005 - connective zone/jeff samuel/scape one/schmutzig (out feb 2002)
| emot 006 - otomi - zusammen/vertrauen (out feb 2002)
| website/info - http://www.emoticonrecordings.com
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[313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread robert.merlak
can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...

http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm

or just in say what it is all about

thanks
bye
rob


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[313] Some Inside Info On Mr Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken


...Out in Feb/March 2002 from Colin Dale are 2 12” singles: You Know How
on
Advance (uk) contains 3 tracks by Colin Dale. D2 is Colin Dale and dj Dozia
and their single Colours will be out on London Housing Benefit Records
(uk). The single features 2 tracks and vocals from Mr. Dale.

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Re: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Mislav Bobic
OK, this is latest info (Nov 2001) from Dale's ;) Abstrakt Dance website:

Lot's of things have been happening on the production front from the
brothers Mark and Colin Dale.

First Mark Dale has a 12 under the guise of Dark Male (get it?). The e.p
is called Nightlife and features a remix from Asad Rizvi and it release #2
from Groovetech records London. Distribution is via Pinnicle.

Also new from Mark Dale is Burn on London's Eukahouse records.Distribution
is thru Intergroove.

Colin Dale has also been very very busy on the production front..Promo's
are already on the streets for a killer 12 from Colin Dale and Alien Funk
dude Gareth Oxby. Out soon on Visitors the Tech-House sister of Music Man
(Belgium) Gareth and Colin hit back with a monster called Strange things
happening using the moniker Primary Seqence...The single was recorded
on Sept 11th 2001 and some of you may remember that Colin and Gareth used to
be called Civil AttackThe single will be distributed by news
in Belgium.

Also early in 2002 also see's a 12 on Advance Records and also the
completion of the long awaited LP of 12 exclusive and unreleased tracks from
Kleeer. The Kleeer project has been a year in the making and features the
neucleus of Colin and Haris C...initial reports from those lucky enough
to hear tracks has been very very favourable.Release date Spring / Summer
2002.

Also Abstrakt Dance now has a once monthly residency at the number 1 club in
the whole of France.it is of course the Rex Club in Paris. Abstrakt
Dance is the second Wednesday of ever month and as well as Colin as resident
each and every month will also feature a guest each month. Future guests
include Stacy Pullen , Derek May , Mark Shade and Mark Dale. E-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info and concessions.

Don't forget that Colin is also resident at The Cross in London's Kings
Cross the last Friday of every month for Obsessive and also at Herbal in
London's cool and trendy Shoreditch the last Thursday of every month.

Hope this helps.



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Subject: RE: [313] Colin Dale


 Hi. How about some more details on that my friend.

 Cheers,

 Ken

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 Mark Dale + Colin Dale = Dark Male (recently released tech-housey record)
 
 Cheers
 
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  Is his brother Mark Dale?
 
  curious
  fab.
 
 
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   Doesn't he co-produce House of 909 stuff?
  
  
   Sadly his show seems to have subsided into bland S.London tech-how's
 your
   wife stuff, the last time I listened anyway.
  
  
  
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 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:03 PM
   Subject: RE: [313] Colin Dale
  
  
Dem wuz de daze ... He doesn't produce much of his own
 material though
   does
he? Can you name anything by him? I have the Abstrakt Dance
 compilation
  on
Logic out in 1999  the one from last year which came in
double-mixed
 cd
format (amongst the better mix cds I picked up in '01). On the '99
 one,
apparently, that last track 'Urban Intersect' is either him, or a
collaboration - but that was just a vague allusion in the review I
 read
  at
the time ...
   
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Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Someone mentioned Colin Dale in an earlier post.

Did anyone else used to listen to his show?

It was killer, I stll have a tape of the 'Abstrakt Dance '90'
show.
When I think back, these were definately one of the first techno
experiences I had.

Oh, happy days, I remember him dropping UR no.1 and mashing the
   'Beginning'
into 'Infoworld'
At that time it still sounded like a pirate show, he'd do
 shouts over
  all
those old wicked tracks, 'Big shout out to Julie who's watching
  prisoner
cell block H' etc. It was comical as well as being musically
 advanced.

Big smiles all round!!

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Re: [313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread David Gillies
Check out http://babelfish.altavista.com

It'll be able to translate the interview to the language of your choice :)
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 can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...
 
 http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm
 
 or just in say what it is all about
 
 thanks
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RE: [313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread Neil Wallace

i tried that already :) but the results produced by babel fish are usually
not particularly sensible - works good for individual words but falls down
when it comes to sentences!

reminds of the first attempts at automatic translation by the russians which
transalted the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak as the vodka is
good but the meat is rotten!

neil

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Re: [313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread David Gillies
Hmmm, yeah. I just started reading it. Pretty poor. I guess what do you for
free eh?

On quiet days at work sometimes I translate stuff from english, to another
language and then back again. Makes for some amusing reading.

For example: There are too many trainspotters on 313

In Portugese: Há demasiado muitos trainspotters em 313

and back again...

Trainspotters in 313 has too much many

YEAH!!! :)

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 i tried that already :) but the results produced by babel fish are usually
 not particularly sensible - works good for individual words but falls down
 when it comes to sentences!

 reminds of the first attempts at automatic translation by the russians
which
 transalted the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak as the vodka is
 good but the meat is rotten!

 neil

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Re: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Fabrizio Nahum



 MD is cut from exactly same cloth mix-wise  taste-wise ... he's
definitely
 related although a lot younger ... so I wouldn't be 100% sure it's
'brother'
 ... Mark Dale is seriously underground. How'd you hear about him?!


I go to groovetech alot and ive seen him in both the broadcasts and in the
shopping area.

Btw Colin Dale has released some new material with a certain Garth
something-or-other. He played it last nightits got a nice driving 4/4
beat with a wicked 303 bassline and some distrorted vocals. Im sorry but i
forgot the name of the song and the monicker it is being released under but
itll be in the shops next week apparently.

swiss cheese memory,
fab.


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Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: [313] Fw: Hall  Oates



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 Subject: Hall  Oates


  In the days before House, Techno ... there was indeed some dirty soul
  singers
  and Hall and Oates were definately two of them.. So how come no one
 remixed
  them...

I've seen TP drop Hall  Oates a few times (to try and make this somewhat
313 topical). [hides head in shame] I was watching their VH1 Behing the
Music the other day, which was heavilly focused on their breadth, rooted in
50s and 60s soul. As the show would have it, the pinnacle of their carreer
was playing with the Temptations at the Apollo (???) in Harlem in '85 (???),
after which they split up for a while - having fulfilled their greatest
dreams [cue sappy music]. :)

At any rate, there have been a few apparently unauthorized Hall  Oates
remixes over the years. I have one that samples I can't go for that,
taking mostly the bassline, and heavilly filtering the vocal. Disco Dubs
Volume 1 was the name of the record, with a green label in a clear plastic
sleeve. Not the best track on the record IMO, but worth checking out if you
can track down. I imagine it's hard to find these days. Frankly, I think
their tracks are pretty mixable as is. If you can find any of TPs mixes with
Hall  Oates - that would definitely be the best example IMO. Then again, in
TPs hands almost anything can become 313 topical. Rod Stewart anyone? :)

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Re: [313] Colin Dale

2002-02-14 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: Re: [313] Colin Dale


  MD is cut from exactly same cloth mix-wise  taste-wise ... he's
 definitely
  related although a lot younger ... so I wouldn't be 100% sure it's
 'brother'
  ... Mark Dale is seriously underground. How'd you hear about him?!
 

 I go to groovetech alot and ive seen him in both the broadcasts and in the
 shopping area.

 Btw Colin Dale has released some new material with a certain Garth
 something-or-other. He played it last nightits got a nice driving 4/4
 beat with a wicked 303 bassline and some distrorted vocals. Im sorry but i
 forgot the name of the song and the monicker it is being released under
but
 itll be in the shops next week apparently.

 swiss cheese memory,
 fab.

Yeah. I got some gaps in mine too. :) DJ Garth would probably be from
Grayhound Recordings. The ties to this sound (kind west-coast housey a la
Halo/H-Foundation) are pretty strong on his show these days from what I
understand. That's stuff's not so much my thing - too thin for me, but
Patrick Turner from Baltimore has a new record Newblood coming out soon,
which is a slightly deeper take on this sound IMO. Colin Dale was raving
about this track on one of his recent shows. Patrick's stuff really cranks
it up a notch. Be on the lookout if you aren't averse to this sound, but
have always wanted something more from it. Lots of 313 relevant DJs have
been giving him the thumbs up, including Garnier, Mr.C and others for his
releases on Transport, Low and Silver Pearl.

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Re: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I have a red vinyl EP with the Robert Armani and DJ Hell mixes on it... I 
think they are both fairly good as far as Numan remixes go.


It's called Random Remixes and as far as I can tell I thought it was on 
Random Records but I could be mistaken about the label.


Like to get some of the other mixes on this CD on vinyl, though.

There's a cd called 'Random (02)- mixes of Gary Numan'

(1998, Beggars Banquet Records).
I don't usually buy mixes of old songs I loved in my
youth. They usually dissapoint. But I saw this for
cheap at Kims in NYC a couple years ago and picked it
up. This is a collection of previously released 12.
There's a few reviews I found on the web. Here's one:
http://www.napadogan.com/pr_beggars%20banquet_gary%20numan_random(02)_022698.htm

Alot of the mixes on here do no justice to the
originals but I like a fewof these. Here's some
thoughts:

Robert Armani - Metal : Reminds me of The Knacks's 'My
Sharona' ?!

DJ Hell - Dans Le Parc : Nice low bass..dig it.

Greenhaus - I Die, You Die : Zzz

Mike Dearborn - Cars : Nothing like the original
track. Dig it.

Dave Clarke - Cars : I would honestly rather listen to
the original song. He stays pretty close to it anyway.
I'm guessing that's Dave's point and that he a big fan
of Gary's music also.

Dave Angel - Warriors : I could do without this track
on the cd. Not my cup of (green) tea I guess. I'm also
not that familar with the original. I know his first
3-4 solo and Tubeway Army albums better.

Liberator D.J.s - Are Friend's Electric : It would
take alot for me to like a remake of one my fave early
synth-pop songs. This mix certainly didn't do it.

Steve Stoll - Remember I was Vapours : This would be
nice thrown into a set me thinks?

Claude Young - We Are Glass : Not bad but I'm starting
to fast forward these tracks so I can throw on some of
my some of my Tubeway Army LPs and GN cds..

Alex Hazzard - Films : I have to turn this off after
50 secs.

Peter lazanby - The Iceman Comes : A pretty Idmish
mix of this track. A nice listen. I don't think I've
heard the original?

side note: When I talked to Gary a few years ago in
London I got the impression that he's pretty
protective of his material. It may be hard to get
samples cleared by him but if there's money
involved...

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Re: [313] car boot purchases

2002-02-14 Thread Gerald
Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet wrote:

 Cabaret Voltaire: Keep On remixes (Parlophone/EMI)
 - includes Mayday mix!

Damn! I've been looking for that one for a while. 
Do i even have top ask how it sounds?

G

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Re: [313] car boot purchases

2002-02-14 Thread james boylan


50p for Model 500: True Techno EP (Network 1992)

That's just plain madness and just I'm plain jealous. I forked out nearly 
£20 for this on a German website recently. Worth every penny mind you.



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Re: [313] Mmmm..... sugababes....

2002-02-14 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Ugh, listening to their version is like having a blunt skewer rammed
through your ear. F*cking aweful - whose idea was it to give the office
interns a recording contract? They sound like the singing groups at the end
of the Jenny Jones show!

MEK




   
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sugababes 

   

   




He said Sugababes, hu uh uh uh huh hu huhu uh. mm..

Overload was a good pop track you have to admit, and they're so giggly
cute when they're being interviewed.

Tosh


Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:01:45 +0100
To: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: RE: [313] gary numan
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This is definately off topic, but this morning I heard on the radion
that the new Sugababes single is going to be a remake of Are Friends
Electric.
After some research I found that it's going to be a mix of Gary Numan
and Adina howard. You can download a fragment here:
http://www.mandymoore4always.org/sugababes/main.html. It sounds
absolutely horrible.

Joost


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Re: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread Tim Maughan
on 14/2/02 1:37 pm, Eric Scuccimarra at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Liberator D.J.s

for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's
underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from
Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging.

i think that says it all really.


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[313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Drada

Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

Play Side A:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.ram

Play Side B:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.ram

Download Side A:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.rm

Download Side B:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.rm

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RE: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
F*cking 'avin' it was actually the last part of the title. 

Well at least they're honest about themselves...


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Subject: Re: [313] re- gary numan


on 14/2/02 1:37 pm, Eric Scuccimarra at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Liberator D.J.s

for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's
underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from
Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging.

i think that says it all really.


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RE: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
The album was released in a time when this
so-called intelligent techno thing (Warp, black dog stuff etc)
was quite popular. It was statement saying that this 
music was for partying (hard) and not about locking
yourselfs in your bedroom, no daylight and try and 
think /make the most weird sounds/noises etc..
yes, it was honest (i have the album:), you knew
what you where buying!

I liked it a lot, still do by the way..

Now back to the intelligent stuff...

Martijn

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Onderwerp: RE: [313] re- gary numan


F*cking 'avin' it was actually the last part of the title. 

Well at least they're honest about themselves...


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Subject: Re: [313] re- gary numan


on 14/2/02 1:37 pm, Eric Scuccimarra at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Liberator D.J.s

for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's
underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from
Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging.

i think that says it all really.


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Re: [313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

2002-02-14 Thread Mario Atienza

 In AudioGalaxy from long time ago like Derrick May Part 1  Derrick May Part 2
  Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Derrick May Live at The Music 
Institute 1988...

Play Side A:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.ram

Play Side B:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.ram

Download Side A:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.rm

Download Side B:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.rm

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Re: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread Tim Maughan
yeah that was it. well spotted.

on 14/2/02 3:11 pm, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 F*cking 'avin' it was actually the last part of the title.
 
 Well at least they're honest about themselves...
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [313] re- gary numan
 
 
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 Liberator D.J.s
 
 for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's
 underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from
 Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging.
 
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RE: [313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
probably nazi's, porn and water.

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Subject: [313] transllusion


can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...

http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm

or just in say what it is all about

thanks
bye
rob


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Re: [313] surveillance recordings?

2002-02-14 Thread The Deliverator
deifferent label than the one I thought of, sorry :-)

jim

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:47 AM
Subject: [313] surveillance recordings?


 I picked up a great 12 in Rubadub yesterday by DFA (Deterministic Finite
 Automata), snappily titled 'Microstructural Chracterization' on
Surveillance
 Recordings from Detroit. 3 tracks of minimal but extremely soulful and
 melodic electronic house/techno, very very nice indeed. Just wondering if
 anyone had any more info on DFA or the Surveillance label, and if there's
 any other recommended material worth checking out?

 Their website (http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/) looks great but
 there's no actual content...

 Cheers,

 Tom

 | tom churchill
 | emoticon recordings uk
 | emot 005 - connective zone/jeff samuel/scape one/schmutzig (out feb
2002)
 | emot 006 - otomi - zusammen/vertrauen (out feb 2002)
 | website/info - http://www.emoticonrecordings.com
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[313] Re: (tech-house) Born Under a Rhyming Planet

2002-02-14 Thread tom churchill
You mean Jamie Hodge - the last thing I have with his involvement is the
astonishinly good second Conjoint LP, 'Earprints' on Source (Germany) - a
freestyle electronic jazz masterpiece with David Moufang, Karl Berger and
others...

Highly highly recommended, along with the first Conjoint album which I'm
still desparately seeking on vinyl...

Cheers,

Tom

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| emoticon recordings uk
| emot 005 - connective zone/jeff samuel/scape one/schmutzig (out feb 2002)
| emot 006 - otomi - zusammen/vertrauen (out feb 2002)
| website/info - http://www.emoticonrecordings.com
| distribution - http://www.rushhour.nl


 Does anybody know where that kid who did the Born Under a Rhyming Planet
 stuff on Plus 8 a while back is nowadays? There was this track of his on one
 of the old Trance Atlantic compliations that continues to kick my ass to
 this day. I don't think I've ever really heard much from him since then,
 tho. Hmm.
 


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Re: [313] Derrick Interview

2002-02-14 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
I'm browsing the interview now...and got this tidbit:

Flaws aside, the DEMF was something on a level that hadn't been seen
before. Hip-Hop acts like Mos Def, De La Soul, and The Roots rubbed
shoulders with a diversity of Techno and House DJs from Richie Hawtin and
John Acquaviva to the Holy Trinity to Glenn Underground, Derrick Carter,
and Mark Farina. It was a reconciliation of Dance music, which has
traditionally been stigmatized in much of the Black community as not
Black enough or too Gay, with Hip-Hop, which has infinitely wider
acceptance in Black communities across America. Could the festival be
recognized as a step toward the recognition of Detroit Techno as a form of
Black music in the eyes of Black America?

Now I understand why techno is not viewed as a part of the black music
pantheon, though I disagree with this.  I'm blessed to be able to teach in
a school that is fully integrated electronically...so during my black
politics seminar I was playing a set by Reginald Dokes off of
betalounge.com.  Afterwards I had a brief discussion with my students
about how techno was the creation of black kids in detroit and was
intimately wed to the history of black american dance music.

BUT the implicit argument above is that dance music ITSELF is criticized
as not being black enough or being too gay.  Though I've heard
anecdotes about how some hiphop artists felt this way...if anything this
is very very parochial.  I don't understand how one could think something
like this...much less put it on paper.

And May is wrong about how history will have the tell the tale because
no one else will.

But I can understand that...he doesn't know us.  And with the exception of
a brief encounter some years ago, he doesn't know ME.


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[313] FW: Once.Twice Festival of Sound

2002-02-14 Thread Greg::Malcolm .

once.twice festival

The organizers of the Once.Twice Festival of Sound are happy to announce the 
second installment of this annual event, to take place in Baltimore, MD, 
April 5th-6th 2002.



april 5-6; baltimore,md


fri. april 5::the whole gallery, 213 w.franklin 3rd fl.

::richard chartier(12k, L-NE)
::timeblind(orthlorng musork)
::backbreakerneckbrace(alienation)
::ian nagoski(edition...)
::themoonstealingproject(no type)
::telia
::jeff donaldson
::archetype of a crime


sat. april 6::the ottobar, 2549 n. howard

::sutekh(force-inc, plug research, cytrax)
::safety scissors(plug research, force trax)
::tomas jirku(force-inc, klang)
::cex(tigerbeat6, 555)
::twine(hefty, bip-hop, komplott)
::while(chocolote industries, musik aus strom)
::diskette(once.twice)

++video by::giles hendrix, alison stall, catherine pancake, phase4, dawn 
bendick, mike haleta, christine vantzos and the u.s. premier of the qubo 
gas/scratch pet land video escartgo colouers !.


Information regarding tickets, scheduling, location of venues and other 
notable news will soon be available via http://www.oncetwicesound.com ; 
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RE: [313] re- gary numan

2002-02-14 Thread John Bush
 i might be wrong, but i remember it coming
 out in the days when jeff mills, laurent
 garnier and dave clarke were still selling
 out friday nights at Club UK. 

Looks like early '97...

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Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread Ian
on 2/14/02 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At any rate, there have been a few apparently unauthorized Hall  Oates
 remixes over the years. I have one that samples I can't go for that,
 taking mostly the bassline, and heavilly filtering the vocal. Disco Dubs
 Volume 1 was the name of the record, with a green label in a clear plastic
 sleeve. 

Check Assault's Sex on the Beach for another fine use of this sample.
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Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread glyn
 I've seen TP drop Hall  Oates a few times (to try and make this somewhat
 313 topical). [hides head in shame] I was watching their VH1 Behing the
 Music the other day, which was heavilly focused on their breadth, rooted in
 50s and 60s soul. As the show would have it, the pinnacle of their carreer
 was playing with the Temptations at the Apollo (???) in Harlem in '85 (???),
 after which they split up for a while - having fulfilled their greatest
 dreams [cue sappy music]. :)
 
 At any rate, there have been a few apparently unauthorized Hall  Oates
 remixes over the years. I have one that samples I can't go for that,
 taking mostly the bassline, and heavilly filtering the vocal. Disco Dubs
 Volume 1 was the name of the record, with a green label in a clear plastic
 sleeve. 

 Not the best track on the record IMO, but worth checking out if you
 can track down. I imagine it's hard to find these days. Frankly, I think
 their tracks are pretty mixable as is. If you can find any of TPs mixes with
 Hall  Oates - that would definitely be the best example IMO. Then again, in
 TPs hands almost anything can become 313 topical. Rod Stewart anyone? :)

wasn't there that we are love house track from 4 years or so ago that
sampled them as well?

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[313] gear for sale?

2002-02-14 Thread john arnold

Hi List,
I was wondering if anybody in the 313 area has an mpc 2000xl they want to 
sell.  Also, I am looking for an Allen and Heath board(16 channel or 
bigger).

Let me know,
john

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Re: [313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

2002-02-14 Thread Dan Sicko

wow ... don't know how I missed this link before. Now someone just
has to unearth the unreleased Rhythim Is Rhythim track Martin he
used to play at the M.I., or find one of Alan's shows where he played
it.  ;)

-d

At 4:18 PM +0100 2/14/2002, Mario Atienza wrote:

 In AudioGalaxy from long time ago like Derrick May Part 1  Derrick
May Part 2
  Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Derrick May Live
at The Music Institute 1988...

Play Side A:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.ram

Play Side B:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.ram

Download Side A:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.rm

Download Side B:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.rm

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Re: [313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...

2002-02-14 Thread Javier Drada

I don't think you missed it, I think it's a recent addition.


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Subject: Re: [313] Derrick May Live at The Music Institute 1988...
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:46:27 -0500

wow ... don't know how I missed this link before. Now someone just
has to unearth the unreleased Rhythim Is Rhythim track Martin he
used to play at the M.I., or find one of Alan's shows where he played
it.  ;)

-d

At 4:18 PM +0100 2/14/2002, Mario Atienza wrote:

 In AudioGalaxy from long time ago like Derrick May Part 1  Derrick
May Part 2
  Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Derrick May Live
at The Music Institute 1988...

Play Side A:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.ram

Play Side B:
http://www.deephousepage.com/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.ram

Download Side A:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988a.rm

Download Side B:
ftp://rose107.biostat.wisc.edu/derrickmaymusicinstitute1988b.rm

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[313] just a little bit more..

2002-02-14 Thread marsel



SUBURBAN KNIGHT - 'DARK HORIZONS'
James Pennington's long awaited debut album will come forth from the 
shadows Spring 2002.There will be an album tour taking place from mid 
February till the end of April 2002.



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Re: [313] transllusion

2002-02-14 Thread doris non-woo
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 can someone translate this drexciya related interview for us...
 
 http://www.technoidz.de/transllusion.htm
 
 or just in say what it is all about
 
 thanks
 bye
 rob


pardon the awkward translation in places.  german sentence structure is a
bitch.
back to being productive now...


Our dear Chet Avery has once again on a mission from elektric magazine
approached one of the big dogs in the electronic music business in order
to relate to you his thoughts and ideas: james stinson aka
tranllusion.  ok, this name may not necessarily be familiar to some of you
as the headliner of the last groove or raveline, but who knows exactly
who's really behind drexciya (the bosses of warp o-ton rough trade
;-) ) anyway.  beside james pennington, james stinson is part of one of
the most style-coining (style-setting?  err...) institutions of electro,
and with transllusion has gotten a solo project going whose new album,
since its emergence in november, challenges the direct descendents (or
followers?) of the old traditions of the detroit underground.  though more
technoid, swinging, and altogether straighter than one is used to from the
old masters drexcia, mighty phat (haha) and dark...if you want to have a
listen, you should look for the supremat-label in the record store.  but
now have fun with chet's interview with james stinson.

chet: drexciya has always been very covered in the depths of the sea,
without really stepping into the foreground.  how can we understand and
categorize your project transllusion?

t: in relation to drexciya, transllusion is a completely different
project.  in contrast to drexciya, your ears and spirit (soul? wit?) have
to work to hear the differences and get a complete picture, which is
actually the point of transllusion.  with a close look, the listener will
notice that transllusion represents a journey into the head.  why did you
decide to conduct your solo project on the mental level?  transllusion is
a journey into my spririt/soul/wit, not that of the listener.  i like to
meditate, that's why i took it as the basis of my concept.  the journey
into my spirit/soul/wit will help the listener get a new view of the
world.

c:  in earlier interviews, drexciya spoke of a fire that they would
ignite.  in what form can we expect that, and does transllusion represent
a part of it (is it perhaps the introduction)?  can we see it as
revolution, and what means will you use?  how will the world look
afterwards?

t:  unfortunately i can't tell you right now.  you just have to keep your
ears open and you'll see.  one thing i can say, it'll be a musical
storm.  i cant answer further questions, since they pertain too much to
drexciya.

c:  in y our opinion, what are the chances of realizing all set goals?

t:  i don't give it any thought.  look, i don't have any influence on
it.  it depends on the people to take up the music and process it.  it
doesn't make a difference if 20 or 2 people occupy themselves with the
project, as long as i make a single one happy with it, it's entirely
enough for me.

c:  you live very secluded.  how important are economic and political
structures to you, how do you feel about religion, science, and art?

t:  regarding transllusion, none of these areas matter.  transllusion
happens in an entirely different place from reality and time and describes
the inner life.

c:  why do you keep so distant from the detroit scene?  why do you hardly
keep contact with other detroit artists, and why is the distance so
important to you?

t:  i hardly go outside b/c i dont want to take up external impressions
and influences that would be reflected in my music.  the distance is so
important to me b/c i need a lot of room to freely develop my
spirit/wit.  i can't even tell you who currently has a hot record out
because i'm working so hard at the moment.  i know, i should take a break
sometimes and look outside, but right now i can't.

c:  in our opinion, underground resistance has put the fight against the
majors a bit in the background.  with the last releases, one has missed
the message a bit, that is one couldn't directly interpret it.  could you
maybe tell us which way mad mmike is going?

t:  unfortunately i cant answer that.  i simply don't know, since i
haven't been in contact with them for years.  i can't say either whether
they've given up hope.

c:  why did you release your solo-project on a sublabel of tresor?  were
you looking for a certain label to, for example, reach a target audience,
that is, did you look for a label that corresponded with your views?

t:  as i've mentioned in previous interviews, it's not the label that
matters to me, but the music and the artists.  people don't have to know
anything about the label.  in other words, they don't have to know how
much money is being earned or of what my deal with the label
consists.  they don't even want to know, and are only interested in the
artist.  the label is only the 

Re: [313] Fw: Hall Oates

2002-02-14 Thread atomly
So who's going to see them in Chicago next week?

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Re: [313] Theo/JAN/Malik -- Valentine's at Mixworks

2002-02-14 Thread RC
well, sheeiit

will someone tell us what this was like - i'm frickin dyin' down here
(sydney)!!!


on 13/2/02 6:28 AM, keleigh casper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thursday, February 14
 Mixworks Valentine Party
 
 Theo Parrish, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 Malik Pittman, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 J.A.N. -- Detroit
 
 Porter St. Station-Detroit
 1400 Porter St. @ Trumbull.
 mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Grab a sweetie and come enjoy a night of smooth, deep Valentine's Day
 treats. Free admission before 11 and drink specials all night.
 2-21
 Chaos *LIVE* wsg Roots Electric (Underground Resistance -- Detroit)
 2-28
 Octave One *LIVE* (430 West -- Detroit)
 
 Mixworks is a weekly house/techno night supported by the following local
 sponsors: Current, Submerge, Made in Detroit, Real Detroit, motormouth.org
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RE: [313] Theo/JAN/Malik -- Valentine's at Mixworks

2002-02-14 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
hold you're horses! it's only afternoon here!!

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Theo/JAN/Malik -- Valentine's at Mixworks


well, sheeiit

will someone tell us what this was like - i'm frickin dyin' down here
(sydney)!!!


on 13/2/02 6:28 AM, keleigh casper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thursday, February 14
 Mixworks Valentine Party
 
 Theo Parrish, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 Malik Pittman, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 J.A.N. -- Detroit
 
 Porter St. Station-Detroit
 1400 Porter St. @ Trumbull.
 mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Grab a sweetie and come enjoy a night of smooth, deep Valentine's Day
 treats. Free admission before 11 and drink specials all night.
 2-21
 Chaos *LIVE* wsg Roots Electric (Underground Resistance -- Detroit)
 2-28
 Octave One *LIVE* (430 West -- Detroit)
 
 Mixworks is a weekly house/techno night supported by the following local
 sponsors: Current, Submerge, Made in Detroit, Real Detroit, motormouth.org
 and Record Time. Support.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight.

2002-02-14 Thread Sam Valenti IV


Come to see DJ Sneak tonight at the Necto in Ann Arbor.


Ghostly International offices Valentine's Day playlist:

The Cars - Heartbeat City
Bogdan R. - My Love I Love
Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses (Strangelove)
Love - Forever Changes
Sam Cooke - The Rhythm and the Blues (Nothing Can Change this Love)

Love,

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Re: [313] Derrick Interview

2002-02-14 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
Someone on a another forum posted a different portion of this same interview
(I think) today... is there a place online I can read this in its entirety?

Matt
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 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:45:09
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [313] Derrick Interview

 That's a very good interview:

   Unlike those unfortunate others, after years and years, all of the great
   Detroit producers have stuck together, according to Derrick. I think
   that we did pretty well for Detroit. We stuck together, we've been
really
   united on the front. There comes a time when you have to open up and
play
   hardball with people, because if you don't, they will look you over and
   they will move on.  And that's where we are now; we stayed underground
for
   many years in Detroit.  We stuck close to the front. But now, we have to
   start to comprehend and realize what's happening in the industry, and if
   we don't start playing some ball, we're out. They've found other ways to
   move without us now. The music doesn't need Detroit anymore. The music
   doesn't need Chicago anymore. What we do is respect it and consider it
   always at the forefront, but it's not considered necessary anymore. So
at
   some point we have to realize and we have to say, Now, we have to open
   our doors and evolve. They've figured out ways to move on and evolve
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Re: [313] Theo/JAN/Malik -- Valentine's at Mixworks

2002-02-14 Thread RC
sorry - i'm a little over keen perhaps..


on 15/2/02 8:26 AM, doris non-woo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yeesh, it's only 4:30pm over here!  ;)
 
 On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, RC wrote:
 
 well, sheeiit
 
 will someone tell us what this was like - i'm frickin dyin' down here
 (sydney)!!!
 
 
 on 13/2/02 6:28 AM, keleigh casper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thursday, February 14
 Mixworks Valentine Party
 
 Theo Parrish, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 Malik Pittman, Sound Signature -- Detroit
 J.A.N. -- Detroit
 
 Porter St. Station-Detroit
 1400 Porter St. @ Trumbull.
 mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Grab a sweetie and come enjoy a night of smooth, deep Valentine's Day
 treats. Free admission before 11 and drink specials all night.
 2-21
 Chaos *LIVE* wsg Roots Electric (Underground Resistance -- Detroit)
 2-28
 Octave One *LIVE* (430 West -- Detroit)
 
 Mixworks is a weekly house/techno night supported by the following local
 sponsors: Current, Submerge, Made in Detroit, Real Detroit, motormouth.org
 and Record Time. Support.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[313] luke slater

2002-02-14 Thread marsel


just wondering if someone wants to get rid of his vinyl copy of 'four 
cornered room'  ??? (gpr-lp3, 1994) - or knows it somewhere for sale ???


still one of my fave techno albums
'lost' is soo deeply fine


cheerio

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Re: [313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight.

2002-02-14 Thread Michael D Tyrer
Can't wait to see DJ Sneak here in London, or anywhere in the UK
Closely followed by DJ Rush, and DJ Bone  is this becoming a fashion all
this DJ'ing?

(I believe Mr le Bone (he isn't from Duran Duran is he?) is due at the end
of the month).


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 Come to see DJ Sneak tonight at the Necto in Ann Arbor.


 Ghostly International offices Valentine's Day playlist:

 The Cars - Heartbeat City
 Bogdan R. - My Love I Love
 Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses (Strangelove)
 Love - Forever Changes
 Sam Cooke - The Rhythm and the Blues (Nothing Can Change this Love)

 Love,

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RE: [313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight.

2002-02-14 Thread Grammenos, Peter

I saw DJ sneak at the KMS after party in Detroit and wasn't too impressed.
That is compared to Kevin Saunderson who opened up and Derrick may who
played after him. Man what a night ;0

-Pete

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Can't wait to see DJ Sneak here in London, or anywhere in the UK
Closely followed by DJ Rush, and DJ Bone  is this becoming a fashion all
this DJ'ing?

(I believe Mr le Bone (he isn't from Duran Duran is he?) is due at the end
of the month).


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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 09:15
Subject: [313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight.




 Come to see DJ Sneak tonight at the Necto in Ann Arbor.


 Ghostly International offices Valentine's Day playlist:

 The Cars - Heartbeat City
 Bogdan R. - My Love I Love
 Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses (Strangelove)
 Love - Forever Changes
 Sam Cooke - The Rhythm and the Blues (Nothing Can Change this Love)

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Re: [313] trainspotters...get ready...get set...GO!!!

2002-02-14 Thread Trevor Wilkes
Not sure on artist or title, but I can tell you that the label is PULSAR the
DOX002 would be their cat#. It's an amercian label, and I don't know that
release but I think most or all of the PULSARs were like hard acid.

Trevor Wilkes
inyerear.com
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Subject: [313] trainspotters...get ready...get set...GO!!!



 hi list-

 i recently purchased a record that is something i really like.  it is on
green vinyl with a blue label.  the label has a black frequency wavelength
across it.  the run-off groove is engraved with DOX002-A Real Beat
Music-BMI 1994  i know that someone out there knows what record this is.
the first person to respond wins their trainspotter gold star!!!

 -sam



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Re: [313] trainspotters...get ready...get set...GO!!!

2002-02-14 Thread armin holzgethan
i got dox003, yellow label, black vinyl,  hard monotone acid. that's all i
know. do you want it?

Trevor Wilkes schrieb:

 Not sure on artist or title, but I can tell you that the label is PULSAR the
 DOX002 would be their cat#. It's an amercian label, and I don't know that
 release but I think most or all of the PULSARs were like hard acid.

 Trevor Wilkes
 inyerear.com
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 From: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:06 PM
 Subject: [313] trainspotters...get ready...get set...GO!!!

 
  hi list-
 
  i recently purchased a record that is something i really like.  it is on
 green vinyl with a blue label.  the label has a black frequency wavelength
 across it.  the run-off groove is engraved with DOX002-A Real Beat
 Music-BMI 1994  i know that someone out there knows what record this is.
 the first person to respond wins their trainspotter gold star!!!
 
  -sam
 
 
 
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