Re: [313] Bell vs Wink
> Hans Veneman wrote on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 about following: > > > KJ emailed Ovum about this issue. If you want to read Josh Wink's reaction > > to Dan's letter, go here: > > http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1 > > 65&mode=flat&order=0 I'll bet Josh said the same thing about 'Lil Louis before he was forced to own up to the similarities of How's Your Evening So Far to French Kiss... Cool thing about that release was it had the orginal FK on the flip thereby educating the kids who thought Wink had done an original tune;-) Lates, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Winxology
Well, I see what you're saying here, but then the question remains, "when is it acceptable to voice your frustration?" In other words, at what point is it ok to say something? Was the acceptable level of 'bite' not achieved in this case to prompt the response? I think Dan did a good job in breaking it down personally. He didn't come straight out and say, "He bit my sh*t!", but rather drew a clear picture on how it came about. I don't wanna sit here and say that "you gotta have put tracks out to fully understand", but there is a certain aspect of that present that'll take too much time/effort to share right now. While reading Dan's letter, I can totally see SWinxter jocking Dan & Co at the parties, similar to how Humpty Vision would jock the turntables when Allen and I would be playin' in LA during the old Plug Research days...hoping to catch a glimpse of the record label that was spinning. I purposely blocked his view and suggested he go and do his homework. There's gotta be some level of respect paid. The way I see it, if you have to think about it twice, then give the props that are due. Dan's gripes are justified, and whether or not it's 'standard practice' to do what Jinx did has no bearing on the validity of Dan's argument. Also, it's pretty weak to attack Dan for not putting out enough records. That too has nothing to do with this discussion. JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:30 PM To: Sakari Karipuro Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Bell vs Wink Haven't you all figured out...ALL OF THIS MUSIC SOUNDS ALIKE! But seriously, over the years, as I've listened to more and more electronic music, I've been amazed how many time I found out my favorite part of a track was a sample of a sample of a sample. Yeah, the Wink track sounds like the Bell track. So what! Think about how many tracks use the same elements and how many more sound alike. I don't particualrly think that the Wink track is good. Actually, it kinda sucks. But I think its rather immature for Bell to call him out like that. It doesn't seem like Wink did anythign that isn't standard practive in this music. This also isn't the first time I've heard bitching about Dan Bell's style getting ripped off (though it is admittedly the first time Ive heard it directly from Dan)- but I think the point I'm trying to make is that Dan quite apparantly has sour grapes with Wink. He also certainly has sour grapes with Plus 8. That's a lot of sour grapes for someone who's only put out a few records and none for a very long time. Imagine this- what if Chuck Berry sent out an e-mail bitching that Keith richards stole his riffs. Duh! On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Sakari Karipuro wrote: > Hans Veneman wrote on Thu, 11 Apr 2002 about following: > > > KJ emailed Ovum about this issue. If you want to read Josh Wink's reaction > > to Dan's letter, go here: > > http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1 > > 65&mode=flat&order=0 > > ok this has been already discussed to death and so on and so on but i > really almost fell from my chair laughing on winks last sentence. > > i myself would say that wink's track is remix or cover of dan's > productions, and dan should be credited. that would be at least fair > considering how much alike the tracks are. > > cover/remix, remix/cover - its a thin line in electronic music. > > > sakke > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Re: [313] Bell vs Wink
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>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:30:13 -0400 (EDT)
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>Yeah, the Wink track sounds like the Bell track. So what! Think about how
>many tracks use the same elements and how many more sound alike.
>I don't particualrly think that the Wink track is good. Actually, it kinda
>sucks. But I think its rather immature for Bell to call him out like that.
>It doesn't seem like Wink did anythign that isn't standard practive in
>this music.
>This also isn't the first time I've heard bitching about Dan Bell's style
>getting ripped off (though it is admittedly the first time Ive heard it
>directly from Dan)- but I think the point I'm trying to make is that Dan
>quite apparantly has sour grapes with Wink. He also certainly has sour
>grapes with Plus 8. That's a lot of sour grapes for someone who's only put
>out a few records and none for a very long time.
>Imagine this- what if Chuck Berry sent out an e-mail bitching that Keith
>richards stole his riffs. Duh!
Yeah, another well-informed posting. What if Keith Richards *did* rip off
Chuck Berry? (Or more to the point, what if the Stones and a lot of other
groups ripped off Willie Dixon -- a point that Dixon won in his lawsuit.)
http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/rock/bizmark-92.php
The cheap personal attack on Dan Bell ("sour grapes"? "immature"??)
doesn't address the real issue here at all.
What this all actually reminds me of, in fact, is the infamous String of
Puppies case. This happened when former-art-student-turned-mutual-fund-
salesman-turned-kitsch-but-highly-popular-with-the-monied-set artist
Jeff Koons (yes, the one who was married to "La Cicciolina" for a while)
recreated as sculptures a cutesy tourist postcard picture taken by
photographer Art Rogers of some puppies. Koons then sold his products for
hundreds of thousands of dollars -- let's not even get into the "greater
fool" theory of how the art world works here -- without paying Rogers for
use of his copyrighted work. (Are you with me so far, Josh?)
Now of course this was a pretty far reach, copying a two-dimensional
image into a three-dimensional form (even better, Koons himself wasn't the
creator of the sculptures, he had a workshop in Italy do all the actual
work). But the court's conclusion in the case was very firm: copying
is infringing even in a different medium if it does not involve
"sufficient changes so that the works at issue undercut substantial
similarity."
I am not a lawyer (of course), but it seems to me the issue between Dan
Bell and Josh Wink isn't "sampling" but instead a different legal
doctrine called "derivative work." If Wink's record has a similarity of
*expression* -- then it may be infringing. Thus, changing the vocal
sample from "control" to "freak" (hah) may well not change that
fundamental similarity if other elements are "substantially similar."
One legal commentator says:
What is protected [under our copyright laws] is the original or
unique way that an author expresses his ideas, concepts,
principles or processes. In looking at the two works of art to
determine whether they are substantially similar, focus must be
on the similarity of expression of an idea or a fact, not on the
similarity of the ideas or concepts themselves. Durham Indus. v.
Tomy Corp. 630 F.2d 905 (2d Cir. 1980). It is not, therefore, the
idea of a couple with eight small puppies seated on a bench which
is protected, but rather Roger's expression of this idea as
caught in placement, in the particular light, and in the
expressions of the subjects that gives the photograph its
charming and unique character, that is to say, makes it original
and copyrightable.
http://www.asopa.com/publications/2000winter/law.htm
The explanation that attorney Fergus provides is much lengthier than
this (fair use) excerpt indicates, and very helpful in fleshing out a
lot of the legal wrinkles, so check it out if you're interested.
I see Dan's letter as a more appropriate response to Wink than the threat
of a lawsuit. The resemblance of the Bell and Wink tracks is so close
that numerous observers in addition to Dan have noted the similarity.
Since Josh Wink is obviously familiar with Dan's work, even to the point
of deriving the name of his track in a clearly derivative way from another
of Dan's records, there is more going on here than a mere accident or
coincidence. And I think Dan is completely right to squawk about it.
Fred
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Fw: [313] Richie/NYC/TechnoNYC/Function...
This bounced last time so I am giving it another try...sorry if anyone gets it twice. m* - Original Message - From: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: [313] Richie/NYC/TechnoNYC/Function... > Hey Dave, > > > http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0215/romano.php > > Excellent article! Thanks for posting it:) > > I for one feel the need to beat Alan to a pulp next time I see 'im, Hee > eheee heee and I didn't even have to shell out any cash for that fiasco!;-) > God damn that was one infuriating night! > > BTW... Function absolutely rocked it at Kazu and Masa's (Vinyl Market NYC) > new TechnoNYC party at Filter 14 here in NYC last night. Dave dropped > brilliant 313-type dark Techno for a solid 2 hours...think Ruskin, Surgeon, > Denham type stuff. I highly recommend all the NY heads check out this party > in future weeks. The system is really great, it wasn't too crowded and the > drink prices are quite reasonable...had Grammenos and I sweating it out on > the Dance floor until 3:30;-) > > Cheers, > > m* > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FA ebay
Optic Nerve, Japanese Telecom, House for All (Definitve comps), Nick Holder, Carl Craig mix, more. No reserves. Thanks. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&completed=0&sort=0&since=-1 seller id = [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie/NYC/TechnoNYC/Function...
- Original Message - From: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:06 PM Subject: Fw: [313] Richie/NYC/TechnoNYC/Function... > > BTW... Function absolutely rocked it at Kazu and Masa's (Vinyl Market NYC) > > new TechnoNYC party at Filter 14 here in NYC last night. Dave dropped > > brilliant 313-type dark Techno for a solid 2 hours...think Ruskin, > Surgeon, > > Denham type stuff. I highly recommend all the NY heads check out this > party > > in future weeks. Not that the folks in NYC need a reminder, but I'll second the Function endorsement. He was very tight opening for Suburban Knight last Spring @ Limelight. All sorts of Detroit and harder European techno in the mix. Definitely towards the top of the heap of east-coast techno Djs. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Woody McBride
Mr McBride is releasing a new version of Basketball Hero's, and I was wondering if anyone has heard it. Is it a remix, or a totally different track with a new title. I just know that his last release was total crap, and wouldn't buy it for any amount of money. So if someone has any info on it, kindly send it my way since Basketball Hero's is a classic Acid track. peace Jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ordering from Submerge/Direct Beat
i think you should probably goto the 430 west web page...something may be there, or links to DB stuff should be there. I havn't seen a new Direct Beat record in a Loong time. I think newest DB record worth having is the A.U.X 88 track "Computer Speaks" I don't think anything newer then that was really worth having. jeff > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:12 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] ordering from Submerge/Direct Beat > > > By the way - I noticed that Submerge doesn't have any Direct Beat records > available or have they stopped selling them? Anyone know what is up with > DB > right now? Haven't seen anything new recently (or am I not looking in the > right direction?). > > MEK > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell
Vanilla Ice to this day seems to think that his bass line is different then Queens. He is still full of sh!t and I am glad that Willis beat the crap out of him at the Celebraty Boxing match on Fox. Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Mike Brown [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:32 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell > > Eric Scuccimarra wrote: > > Regarding the bass line issue - what about "Ice Ice Baby" and "Under > Pressure?" > > Before I made the post, I went looking to see if I could find the (Bootsy? > > Clinton?) quote I paraphrased. I couldn't find it, but I did see somewhere > an > allusion to "changes in the law" that allowed "certain" bass lines to be > protected. I assume this happens on a case-by-case basis, and that in > general, > the bass part is normally assumed to be accompaniment unless you go to > court > and argue otherwise. > >- Mike > __ > __ > mike j. brown | xml/xslt: http://skew.org/xml/ > denver/boulder, colorado, usa | personal: http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
>> ['superfreak' is licensed) Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? Laters, m*hopelessly-hoping* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Richie/NYC/TechnoNYC/Function...
Hey Dave, > http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0215/romano.php Excellent article! Thanks for posting it:) I for one feel the need to beat Alan to a pulp next time I see 'im, Hee eheee heee and I didn't even have to shell out any cash for that fiasco!;-) God damn that was one infuriating night! BTW... Function absolutely rocked it at Kazu and Masa's (Vinyl Market NYC) new TechnoNYC party at Filter 14 here in NYC last night. Dave dropped brilliant 313-type dark Techno for a solid 2 hours...think Ruskin, Surgeon, Denham type stuff. I highly recommend all the NY heads check out this party in future weeks. The system is really great, it wasn't too crowded and the drink prices are quite reasonable...had Grammenos and I sweating it out on the Dance floor until 3:30;-) Cheers, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia...
4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... > Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? > There are still a few open dates on their tour. > > If so, drop me a line. > > Cheers! > > G > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ordering from Submerge (first time)
> 2+ weeks. And I live 20 minutes from Detroit. > They are just really swamped with orders right now! > My copies of the new UR and Los Hermanos took less time than that to get to Ireland! Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] strings of life
> > No, i think he means that remix Terrence Parker and others played last > year at DEMF too. It was quite a nice remix, but i still don't know who made > it, or on what label it was released. Well as I've said before I think it's that white label that was released around this time last year. It had 2 different mixes both featuring jazzy piano riffs - it has a sticker on it saying 'Derrick May Strings Of Life 2001' (dunno if that is the one TP was playing or not). The only other semi-recent mixes I know of are the one Tarantella and Redanka did (surprisingly not too bad;) which was never released afaik, an Ashley Beedle remix http://www.dancetracks.com/audio/31992.ram and that awful Plank 15 one with the King Unique remix of Jaguar on the flip. But Dan has a point it could easily be Salsa Life - which mixes nicely with that white label btw - due to Maarten's characterization of the track as being 'Latin-like'. My .02 cents... m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
This just in: The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for defamation as well.I wish this was a joke Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM To: Dennis Donohue; 313 Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities >> ['superfreak' is licensed) Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? Laters, m*hopelessly-hoping* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ordering from Submerge (first time)
>My copies of the new UR and Los Hermanos took less time than that to get to Ireland! Same here, took about a week for them to get to the UK, plus they threw in a mystery promo of Phases001 which was pretty cool, as well as the famous Metroplex party flier. Though I have to admit there was a time when they didn't answer my emails or order enquiries at all, but I was really impresed with thier level of communication and service this time round. cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
> The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character > also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for defamation > as well.I wish this was a joke > I'm not really surprised by any of this. My legal backgrund is (thankfully!) a distant memory now, so I'm not up on the latest case law, but I do know that you need to tread carefully with this kind of thing. That's kind if what I was getting at yesterday. IMO, Dan Bell has a strong case to sue for copyright infringement over the "Superfreak" track and that's what he should have done. I can understand that he feels bitter about a sequence of events with Josh Wink and feels that he's been ripped of in the past, but the fact is that comparisons of other tracks like "Don't laugh" with "Losing Control" simply would not stand up in court. What's happening now is that other people are putting themselves in a compromising postion, legally, by hosting potentially defamatory comments and copyrighted material on their severs in an attempy to support Dan, and it sounds like Ovum are getting ready to strike the first (legal) blow. I just really think he's gone about this the wrong way... Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] strings of life
> But Dan has a point it could easily be Salsa Life - which mixes nicely with > that white label btw - due to Maarten's characterization of the track as > being 'Latin-like'. It is not Salsa Life, since I own a copy of this record. I think it must be the 2001 white label version. Thanks, Maarten http://www.morthenkiang.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell
>> Anyone recall the cover version of Tour D'France that was on that K-tel >Break dance LP by "10 Speed"? LOL... I think Kraftwerk got the proper >credit though? The question is did they get paid.. ha ha lol i've got this...the whole thing lame covers. Matt i'm surprised you owned up to having this, oh wait i've just done that too :) worst one on there some cover of "let's hear it for the boy" still etched on my memory, in the worst possible way back to the thread: winks track is a remix in my eyes. for the people who don't see this i think some of the confusion as to whether it is similar or not is down to audiogalaxy having the wrong track up as dbx's phreak, and a few of dan's tracks having phreak in the name (acid phreak, beatphreak etc) wink should do what his conscience tells him. that said if you sell 500,000 copies of something it appears you also have money to burn on lawyers :) i'll shut up now robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] london list party?
I lost the address of who was organizing this. Is it still going on? -- ALLEZ CUISINE! [EMAIL PROTECTED] weekdays || [EMAIL PROTECTED] weekends matt kane's brain - http://mkb.n3.net - http://www.everything2.com/?node=mkb - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
maybe they'll just sue all of us on the list for agreeing with Dan :) mk02 - Original Message - From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > This just in: > > The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character > also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for defamation > as well.I wish this was a joke > > > Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo > www.fulcruminn.net > > > -Original Message- > From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM > To: Dennis Donohue; 313 > Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > > >> ['superfreak' is licensed) > > Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... > > Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? > > Laters, > > m*hopelessly-hoping* > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? - Original Message - From: Mehmet Koryurek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > maybe they'll just sue all of us on the list for agreeing with Dan :) > mk02 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:39 AM > Subject: RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > > > This just in: > > > > The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post > on > > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with > a > > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their > > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character > > also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for > defamation > > as well.I wish this was a joke > > > > > > Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo > > www.fulcruminn.net > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM > > To: Dennis Donohue; 313 > > Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > > > > > >> ['superfreak' is licensed) > > > > Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... > > > > Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? > > > > Laters, > > > > m*hopelessly-hoping* > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] london list party?
Matthew Kane: I lost the address of who was organizing this. Is it still going on? yes it is! Saturday 18th May, at Public Life, 82a Commercial Street, London E1 6LY. :) i'm not sure what time it'll kick-off - probably 7pm. more info to come nearer the time. i've not sorted-out the music side of things yet, but a whole bunch of ppl volunteered to dj and we'll also (hopefully) have 2 live pa's!!! cheers rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Alexandres Lugo: This just in: The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for defamation as well.I wish this was a joke hmmm, i wonder if Jockey Slut might be interested in running a piece about this whole story in their news section? i imagine none of the parties involved would mind, especially not Ovum... it's not like it'd be bad publicity. (*cough* Tom MF *cough*) rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
> Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? do they still have that in the states? i mean without litagation following immediately afterwards :) robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: Dan Bell Josh Wink Legalities
The Internet is still a very grey area for issues of libel and the like. I remember a case against that was bought against Yahoo for comments posted on a newsgroup on a site that was hosted on thier servers. It wasn't the owner of the newsgroup itself that was held responsible, but Yahoo for hosting the site. Its much the same as a newspaper that might publish something considered libelous by a party, it would be the newspaper in court, not the individual writer. With this in mind Submerge are probably safe unless they host thier own website, though thier hosts may request they remove the comments if things were taken further. Personally I agree that Dan Bell may have gone about things in the wrong manner, but I guess this depends on what communication Bell may have had with Ovum prior to posting his letter. Certainly I think he should have contacted them first regarding this. Though his story does paint a rather a rather annoying figure of Wink as some kind of long term obbsessive musical stalker, so I guess is Dan has felt this way for some time its understandable that he would think enough is enough. It is a worry though that Wink seems to be more on the ball with the legal side of things. Interesting to see where this goes, though having listened to the 2 tracks that Dennis posted I have to admit I've heard more blatent rip offs in my time, derivative as Wink's track may be. Shame things have to come to this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.digital-soul.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Hardly the behaviour of people confident of successfully defending themselves successfully in a pending suit of copyright infringement (imho). >-Original Message- >From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:02 AM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' >Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > >Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? > > > >- Original Message - >From: Mehmet Koryurek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:56 AM >Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > >> maybe they'll just sue all of us on the list for agreeing with Dan :) >> mk02 >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:39 AM >> Subject: RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities >> >> >> > This just in: >> > >> > The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning >concerning a post >> on >> > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them >with >> a >> > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on >their >> > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This >character >> > also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for >> defamation >> > as well.I wish this was a joke >> > >> > >> > Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo >> > www.fulcruminn.net >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM >> > To: Dennis Donohue; 313 >> > Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities >> > >> > >> > >> ['superfreak' is licensed) >> > >> > Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... >> > >> > Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or >not? >> > >> > Laters, >> > >> > m*hopelessly-hoping* >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Three Chairs Tour
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Anyone know anything about a tour in the UK, w/Kenny Dixon, Theo Parrish, Rick Wilhite? Just something I heard and was wondering if someone could confirm it? - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour
> Anyone know anything about a tour in the UK, w/Kenny Dixon, Theo Parrish, > Rick Wilhite? Don't know details of a tour, but Traxx here in Glasgow are putting them on at the Arches on May 10... I'm sure they'll be doing other dates while they're over... Cheers, Tom | tom churchill | emoticon recordings | http://www.emoticonrecordings.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Dan Bell Josh Wink Legalities
It is a worry though that Wink seems to be more on the ball with the legal side of things. He has to be! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Real Detroit: DEMF Article
www.getrealdetroit.com Plus, early this morning, the commmittee members appeared on Fox 2 News Detroit on and off throughout their broadcast discussing the event and its intentions this year. A few artists who were mentioned to be on the lineup is: DJ Zap Mad Professor Green Velvet ...a sneak preview. =) g. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Real Detroit: DEMF Article
glyph1001: www.getrealdetroit.com there's another new article at: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf12_20020412.htm. rob _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Or maybe Todd Terry should write a letter to mills for the purpose maker he sampled. Ever hear Sum Sigh Say? - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Jake > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dennis Donohue > Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > Why doesn1t mills make a letter to samuel sessions? :) > > jake > > on 4/11/02 1:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > maybe if dan bell's people were that efficient, he would have to always > > whine about getting ripped off! (j/k) > > > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Dennis Donohue wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> Received a mail from Matt Brookman (the General Manager at Ovum records - > >> label to which the Josh Wink song ['superfreak' is licensed) - and he > >> stated > >> that he wanted my phone and mailing address, as I "posted" the song on the > >> web. Is there any legal implications that I should be aware of? > >> > >> Also - I took the song down. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Dennis > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] strings of life
- Original Message - From: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: Fw: [313] strings of life > But Dan has a point it could easily be Salsa Life - which mixes nicely with > that white label btw - due to Maarten's characterization of the track as > being 'Latin-like'. Presumably you mean when the off-tempo edits in Salsa Life don't derail the mix, right? ;) Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Matthew MacQueen wrote: > > Anyone recall the cover version of Tour D'France that was on that K-tel > Break dance LP by "10 Speed"? LOL... I think Kraftwerk got the proper > credit though? The question is did they get paid.. ha ha > I have that record. God Bless the Goodwill. My favorite was the Top 10 hits compilations that said they were by "The Original Artists", where The Original Artists was a band made up, apparently, of a bunch of winos with the shakes. Aside from the obvious consumer ripoff, there's a whole world of deconstruction that one can apply to that band name and context ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Real Detroit: DEMF Article
You know who else i think we can add to the list... Technasia Although i have no idea if this is true. It's just that their N.A. tour starts the week after. hmmm.. G glyph1001 wrote: > > www.getrealdetroit.com > > Plus, early this morning, the commmittee members appeared on Fox 2 News > Detroit on and off throughout their broadcast discussing the event and > its intentions this year. > > A few artists who were mentioned to be on the lineup is: > > DJ Zap > Mad Professor > Green Velvet > > ...a sneak preview. =) > > g. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
Didn't you hear about that? George Bush did away with it when he also trashed the Freedom of Information Act and the Endangered Species Act. I heard he also loves Wink's version of "Phre...er, ah, Freak" MEK "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> raph.co.uk> cc: Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities 04/12/02 04:01 AM Please respond to "Toby Frith" Whatever happened to Freedom of Speech? - Original Message - From: Mehmet Koryurek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > maybe they'll just sue all of us on the list for agreeing with Dan :) > mk02 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mark S Flintoft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:39 AM > Subject: RE: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > > > This just in: > > > > The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post > on > > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with > a > > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their > > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. This character > > also told the forum admin that they are going to sue Dan Bell for > defamation > > as well.I wish this was a joke > > > > > > Alex "Peeing my pants in laughter" Lugo > > www.fulcruminn.net > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark S Flintoft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:19 PM > > To: Dennis Donohue; 313 > > Subject: Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities > > > > > > >> ['superfreak' is licensed) > > > > Ok...I take this to mean the track is licensed to Ovum... > > > > Did the guy mention whether or not Dan would be receiving his due or not? > > > > Laters, > > > > m*hopelessly-hoping* > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Technasia...
does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... > Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? > There are still a few open dates on their tour. > > If so, drop me a line. > > Cheers! > > G > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Technasia...
> > does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too robin... > > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... > > > 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few > weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one > of the better sets we had recently heard. > > Well, well worth booking. > > - Original Message - > From: "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 > Subject: [313] Technasia... > > > > Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? > > There are still a few open dates on their tour. > > > > If so, drop me a line. > > > > Cheers! > > > > G > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] early tease DEMF Lineup
Here are the early mornings appetizers everybody. www.spinners.tv/index2.html the newsconferencetoday 11:30-1 I will be going early, & leaving early to post... I plan on missing the Detroits a great city speech (I know that already) to post asap spinners get it spun phedx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
work this time damn it! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell?
curious, has anyone check with dan to see if he wrote it? _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: what do you get the dj who has everything
a private car registration number plate of course (UK only) these can be found on the Hard to Find web-pages 'VIP DJ' - 30,000 sterling (roughly 43,000 dollars) or if that's not expensive enough '5OUND' - 50,000 sterling (roughly 70,000 dollars) For those that don't know, these are used as car registration number plates. and to easy it back onto topic also available: Derrick May/ Mayday - Transmat Relics (DFC) 8 tracks inc 4 remixes - 35.00 sterling (50 dollars) jason NP 69 - Puntang - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities (Submerge messageboard)
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: > The kind folks at Submerge were contacted this morning concerning a post on > their web site forum concerning Josh. Someone at Ovum threatened them with a > defamation of character suit due to a not so nice post about Josh on their > forum. They were asked to remove the post from their site. If the message was not posted by people at Sumberge (forum admin crew) I don't think Ovum has much of a chance of winning a possible defamation lawsuit against them. As they have written down in their Privacy Statement: "Postings The board administrator(s) cannot be held responsible for the content of posted messages on the forums."" Maybe people should start making a similar disclaimer to the records as well: "The producer(s) of this record cannot be held responsible for listener(s) ability of perceiving similarities with other record(s)." ;) J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman "Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control." - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour
And Marsellus Pittman is involved too I believe. Glasgow, London and Sheffield I believe. Anyone? SM - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: [313] Three Chairs Tour > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > > Start of message text > > Anyone know anything about a tour in the UK, w/Kenny Dixon, Theo Parrish, > Rick Wilhite? > > Just something I heard and was wondering if someone could confirm it? > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is > addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has > misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to > this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not > use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. > > The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and > its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London > WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for > inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are > authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts > for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The > UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the > Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to > carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a > member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers > organisation. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. > > > Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour
I think they're at Plastic People on May 11th - Original Message - From: s mcgill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour > And Marsellus Pittman is involved too I believe. > > Glasgow, London and Sheffield I believe. > > Anyone? > > SM > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:40 AM > Subject: [313] Three Chairs Tour > > > > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > > > > Start of message text > > > > Anyone know anything about a tour in the UK, w/Kenny Dixon, Theo Parrish, > > Rick Wilhite? > > > > Just something I heard and was wondering if someone could confirm it? > > > > - End of message text > > > > This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is > > addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has > > misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to > > this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not > > use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. > > > > The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and > > its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London > > WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for > > inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are > > authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts > > for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The > > UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the > > Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to > > carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a > > member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers > > organisation. > > > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > > telecommunications systems. > > > > > > Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com > > > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > received > > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > > computer. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board
I gotta say some of the comments made on the Submerge board are pretty weak and ill thought out. I didn't say anything until I'd heard both tracks and even then I have to say I didn't feel the track was similar enough to really have a huge rant about. But for people to start publicly calling Winx a wan**er and shouting death to wanx and similar slogans seemingly without having even heard his track, or at least with no reference or comment towards it, is pretty lame. I should think Submerge would be fairly happy to remove posts like these from thier board anyway. Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board
> I'd heard both tracks and even then I have to say I didn't feel the track was similar enough to really have a huge rant about. I think this, again, comes down to the fact that there are tracks incorrectly labelled as Phreak on the 'net. Wink's track is very similar to the original Phreak... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Technasia...
i will hear technasia live next weekend in São Paulo. i hope it sounds diferent from its releases, wish are simply dead tech music to me.. > -- Mensagem original --- > > De : robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc : 313@hyperreal.org, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Data: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:17:31 +0100 (BST) > Assunto : RE: [313] Technasia... > > > > > does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? > > > the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. > > yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too > > robin... > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... > > > > > > 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few > > weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one > > of the better sets we had recently heard. > > > > Well, well worth booking. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 > > Subject: [313] Technasia... > > > > > > > Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? > > > There are still a few open dates on their tour. > > > > > > If so, drop me a line. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > G > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- --- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- --- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > robin... > -- > Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 > Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 > --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk--- -- > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > henrique casanova S.O.M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board
that's basically a good point, but i guess the people who talk about wink in such a way still remember his track 'how is your evening so far ' ;O)) > I gotta say some of the comments made on the Submerge board are pretty weak > and ill thought out. I didn't say anything until I'd heard both tracks and > even then I have to say I didn't feel the track was similar enough to really > have a huge rant about. But for people to start publicly calling Winx a > wan**er and shouting death to wanx and similar slogans seemingly without > having even heard his track, or at least with no reference or comment towards > it, is pretty lame. I should think Submerge would be fairly happy to remove > posts like these from thier board anyway. > > Stewart > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board
> I think this, again, comes down to the fact that there are tracks > incorrectly labelled as Phreak on the 'net. Wink's track is very similar to > the original Phreak... Yep, people who are comparing the 2 tracks posted earlier are only getting half the story. This is important for list members who don't own these DBX 12-inches to accurately make up your own mind for yourself. The origial DBX track "Phreak" has the same bleep line as the Wink track, and repeats the vocal word 'phreak' over and over on 1 bar lines, just like the Wink track. Can anyone post a few bars or a snippet of the REAL DBX track 'phreak' so others can hear? RealAudio or whatever... I think it's on the original B-side of Losing Control 12" on Peacefrog, and also was on Accelerate at some point too. The one worth the word said over and over... It's just important people hear the correct dbx track here to compare so everyone can make up their own mind, that's all I'm saying. Peace, Matt MacQueen -Original Message- From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board > I'd heard both tracks and even then I have to say I didn't feel the track was similar enough to really have a huge rant about. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] official DEMF lineup up
Available at: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Cheers, Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell?
He did...John Tejada is with him presently and they have also been discussing it.. -Original Message- From: scotto you know [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] FWD: Letter from Daniel Bell? curious, has anyone check with dan to see if he wrote it? _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board
I have the DBX "phreak" on my server. (gasp) I hope Dan doesn't mind that I'm using it to support his case against Josh Wink. www.mp313.com/dennis/dbx_phreak.mp3 Cheers, Dennis -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:52 AM To: 313 mailing list Cc: Sean Creen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board > I think this, again, comes down to the fact that there are tracks > incorrectly labelled as Phreak on the 'net. Wink's track is very similar to > the original Phreak... Yep, people who are comparing the 2 tracks posted earlier are only getting half the story. This is important for list members who don't own these DBX 12-inches to accurately make up your own mind for yourself. The origial DBX track "Phreak" has the same bleep line as the Wink track, and repeats the vocal word 'phreak' over and over on 1 bar lines, just like the Wink track. Can anyone post a few bars or a snippet of the REAL DBX track 'phreak' so others can hear? RealAudio or whatever... I think it's on the original B-side of Losing Control 12" on Peacefrog, and also was on Accelerate at some point too. The one worth the word said over and over... It's just important people hear the correct dbx track here to compare so everyone can make up their own mind, that's all I'm saying. Peace, Matt MacQueen -Original Message- From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] Bell v Winx - Submerge board > I'd heard both tracks and even then I have to say I didn't feel the track was similar enough to really have a huge rant about. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] boom
Sundiata Chad Novak Electric Indigo Heather Heart Gene Farris DJ Zap Mike Grant Steve Rachmad Dave Angel Kevin Saunderson Juan Atkins Shorty Erotek (live) John Collins Mad Professor(live) Reggie Curry T.Linder Bill Beaver(live) DeepChord(live) Scott Grooves (dj & live) Jon Tejada Boo Williams Cas Roc Frankie Knuckles DJ Shadow Sarena Tyler X - Ecutioners Adam X Black Eyed Peas Bryan Zentz Blake Baxter Roni Size Eddie Fowlkes Mike Dearborn George Clinton Art Payne/ Keith Martin Gary Martin Rick Wade Stewart Walker(live) Paul Johnson Drexciya Ethan Kline Derrick Thompson Kenny Dope Chaos (live) Bone Dave Clark Roy Davis, Jr. Dennis Cox Green Velvet(live) Frankie Bones K.Hand Advent( Live) DJ Funk Rob Hood Colin Dale A Number of Names(live) Dwayne Jensen Steve Tang Greg Collier Matt Clark Melvin Hill Black Bottom Collective(live) Mike Huckaby DJ Dangerous Ron Carroll T-1000 Traxx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
<< Or maybe Todd Terry should write a letter to mills for the purpose maker he sampled. Ever hear Sum Sigh Say? >> Almost all purpose makers sample todd terry.. just listen verry carefully, and they are there.. the toms ! Todd terry would need a good typewriter if he would write letters to everyone that sampled his beats... Greets, Maaren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
At 08:54 -0700 12-04-2002, Bill Van Loo wrote: Available at: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com WOW! It actually says Drexciya!!! It's not live but AFAIK this will hopefully be the first live appearance from our favorite aqua-funkers Oh and George Clinton is nice too... and so is Deepchord live, Rob Hood -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
> Available at: > > http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Derrick May doesn´t seem to be on the shedule.. does this have anything to do with Derrick registering the DEMF name? Man.. to bad.. I really like Derrick mixing.. you know. Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
on 4/12/02 12:01 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 08:54 -0700 12-04-2002, Bill Van Loo wrote: >> Available at: >> >> http://www.electronicmusicfest.com > > WOW! > > It actually says Drexciya!!! > > It's not live but AFAIK this will hopefully be the first live > appearance from our favorite aqua-funkers > Oh and George Clinton is nice too... and so is Deepchord live, Rob Hood Well let's hope everybody gets paid what they've been promised and the hotel rooms don't get charged back to all the artists like last year... ; O Telepathic regards, The Kooky Scientist -- Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: April 15 - WZBC radio - Boston, MA - http://www.wzbc.org - 11:pm EST -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 PH/FX 978-741-8901 http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com **New E-addresses* [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] phreak
dan is the man wink is the fink *rimshot* h This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] april 22nd @ halcyon brooklyn, nyc, usa
also on the bill: ther website is underconstruction www.cajocommunications.com 2 For 5 is: Dj and super producer DJ Spier 1200 Mcs Oktober and Ace Lover New yorks up and coming underground hip hop crew. Their first single is coming out on cajo distrubuted by fat beats worldwide in about 2 weeks and then an album soon to follow. come support!!! and u suke www.goldenmonkeys.com --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > insert ad rock "hello brooklyn..." > > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 15:24:03 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [REMATTER] april 22nd / HIMA @ halcyon / > brooklyn, nyc, usa > > > monday, april 22nd, 2002 > HIMAWARI > live performance and video at HALCYON in brooklyn > > too cool for the real world, the REMATTER crew is > gonna be all up in the > place, while HIMA throws down and tears up this cute > 'record store/coffee > bar/modern artifact' location, MONDAY NIGHT APRIL > 22nd. > > get out the good stuff, its been a while since > HIMAWARI rocked the new york > city... see you there! > > http://www.halcyonline.com > > halcyon > 227 smith street (between butler and douglass) > carroll gardens, brooklyn 11231 > 718-260-WAXY (718-260-9299) > subway F or G to bergen street > > ... > REMATTER MUSIC, its all that counts. > http://www.rematter.com > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = Nancy Mitchell Artist Management and Promotions FORM,Inc. Tokyo Japan Tel: +81-(0)3-5459-3939 Fax: +81-(0)3-5459-3940 URL Address: http://www.womb.co.jp EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] early tease DEMF Lineup
not to mention Carol Marvin herself leaking Juan Atkins (surprise) and Kenny Dope Gonzalez in Real Detroit. -d At 10:23 AM -0400 4/12/2002, phedx wrote: Here are the early mornings appetizers everybody. www.spinners.tv/index2.html the newsconferencetoday 11:30-1 I will be going early, & leaving early to post... I plan on missing the Detroits a great city speech (I know that already) to post asap spinners get it spun phedx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
I've finally had a chance to listen to all 3 tracks now. I honestly don't see what the noise is about. Angel Alanis, Stewart Walker, and probably dozens of other artists have done tracks that are similar to Dan's tracks. Matter of fact, both Angel Alanis and Stewart Walker's have tracks that are much closer to Dan's music that this new Josh Wink track. Why is this such a big deal? Everyone is "inspired" by another artists work at some point in time, why are you guys making such a fuss over this one instance? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Dan Bell Vs. Josh Wink - legalities
At 17:59 +0200 12-04-2002, Maarten Baute wrote: << Or maybe Todd Terry should write a letter to mills for the purpose maker he sampled. Ever hear Sum Sigh Say? >> Almost all purpose makers sample todd terry.. just listen verry carefully, and they are there.. the toms ! Todd terry would need a good typewriter if he would write letters to everyone that sampled his beats... Erm, most of the purpose maker tracks have a 727 in there You can't sue because of some Toms, There is still legal sampling guys. Taking a small snif of a track doesn't turn you into a bastard. I still have not heard Winks track but if he did the same thing as with that French Kiss remake then that's stepping a line. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] what?
from freep.com: Among the missing: techno godfathers Kevin Saunderson and Derrick May, booked the past two years and asked by Marvin to return for 2002. They declined. "I'm not going to support something like that," says Saunderson. "The only reason I played in the first place was Carl." from electronicmusicfest.com: Kevin Saunderson huh? -- --- - - the subliminal thought for the day is: --- - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
fck! fack! fack! fack! fack! buy a house or go to DEMF- buy a house or go to DEMF - which will it be?! faack! Why does John Tejada have to play this year of all years? I've wanted to see him for s long now Drexciya?! Drexciya!? FACK! MEK (sob sob sob sob) "Bill Van Loo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org org> cc: Subject: [313] official DEMF lineup up 04/12/02 10:54 AM Available at: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Cheers, Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Any news of internet broadcast? (pleease let it be so) MEK "Bill Van Loo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org org> cc: Subject: [313] official DEMF lineup up 04/12/02 10:54 AM Available at: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Cheers, Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Don't fret, I'm sure Derrick will be throwing an after party during DEMF ;) Last year he did one with Kevin Saunderson ... Good lineup, i'm heading over to the D. Rob hood, drexcyia, deep chord, gene farris, blake blaxter, green velvet... -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:04 PM To: Bill Van Loo; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > Available at: > > http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Derrick May doesn´t seem to be on the shedule.. does this have anything to do with Derrick registering the DEMF name? Man.. to bad.. I really like Derrick mixing.. you know. Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
It actually says Drexciya!!! I know! But it doesn't say "Drexciya (live)" [semi-rhetorical question] And why aren't they closing out that stage?? -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
> -Original Message- > From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 April 2002 17:10 > > Everyone is "inspired" by another artists work at > some point in time, why are you guys making such > a fuss over this one instance? The distinction is that Wink stands to make quite a lot of money from his track, while most of the other guys who do tracks that are derivative of Dan Bell's work just put out obscure 12" that only us weirdos even hear about, let alone buy. That's what's annoying - the amount of reward Wink gets for a piece of derivative work is utterly out of scale with the effort and creativity he's injected into it. No-one would even be speaking about this if Josh Wink was an unknown, dropping 500 pressings of a DBX-style tune on a label no-one had heard of. Maybe it's just envy - perhaps we'd all like a job where all we do is make lazy, plagiaristic tracks, using a deep pool of underground music to draw from, and then banking serious cash as the general public flock to our "new" and "innovative" releases. It'd be easy, wouldn't it? I'd make a track that was a pretty straight copy of "Rhythm" from Minimal Nation - sampling George Clinton as well, but programming the main melody line on a Nord Lead and maybe sticking some 909 rimshots in as well, then wait for the dollars to roll in while suing everyone who mentions the name "Robert Hood" on a message board. Life would be good! Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF 2002 poster
Ok - so I can't go but the poster is DOPE. Where can I get one? MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
I agree Brendan...people that come with arguments like the one you responded to I don't believe quite 'get it'. There is a clear distinction between "Inspiration" and straight "Bites", and when you factor in the compensation that you mentioned, it makes it that much worse. JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Wink > -Original Message- > From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 April 2002 17:10 > > Everyone is "inspired" by another artists work at > some point in time, why are you guys making such > a fuss over this one instance? The distinction is that Wink stands to make quite a lot of money from his track, while most of the other guys who do tracks that are derivative of Dan Bell's work just put out obscure 12" that only us weirdos even hear about, let alone buy. That's what's annoying - the amount of reward Wink gets for a piece of derivative work is utterly out of scale with the effort and creativity he's injected into it. No-one would even be speaking about this if Josh Wink was an unknown, dropping 500 pressings of a DBX-style tune on a label no-one had heard of. Maybe it's just envy - perhaps we'd all like a job where all we do is make lazy, plagiaristic tracks, using a deep pool of underground music to draw from, and then banking serious cash as the general public flock to our "new" and "innovative" releases. It'd be easy, wouldn't it? I'd make a track that was a pretty straight copy of "Rhythm" from Minimal Nation - sampling George Clinton as well, but programming the main melody line on a Nord Lead and maybe sticking some 909 rimshots in as well, then wait for the dollars to roll in while suing everyone who mentions the name "Robert Hood" on a message board. Life would be good! Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
I don't think it's amazingly unrealistic to reduce it to that, yeah - that's what it always comes down to, every time an artist or label has got pissed about someone making cash out of sampled work. Basically, by most people's moral codes, the guy who does the work deserves the reward. In this case Dan Bell is seen as the guy who's done the work, but Josh Wink is going to get the reward - not just cash, but props, and strengthening of his reputation as a "master producer" in the mainstream dance music industry. This is seen as unfair, and hence people get pissed. At the end of the day, money does matter - it pays the bills. I'm sure many of us would like to see Dan Bell get a cut of whatever revenues Josh's track brings in. Maybe this moral take on things is wrong, and the guy who does the work *shouldn't* get the reward - maybe the guy who's able to pull off the cheeky exploit and benefit from the work should be seen as ultimately the smartest and most canny guy, and therefore the guy who deserves the cash. That's what Adam Smith would presumably say... Brendan -Original Message- From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2002 17:27 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Jones, George; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Wink So then... I'm to assume the problem is money? Josh could make lotsa money off of this and everyone's pissed? Is this the case? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Wink > -Original Message- > From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 April 2002 17:10 > > Everyone is "inspired" by another artists work at > some point in time, why are you guys making such > a fuss over this one instance? The distinction is that Wink stands to make quite a lot of money from his track, while most of the other guys who do tracks that are derivative of Dan Bell's work just put out obscure 12" that only us weirdos even hear about, let alone buy. That's what's annoying - the amount of reward Wink gets for a piece of derivative work is utterly out of scale with the effort and creativity he's injected into it. No-one would even be speaking about this if Josh Wink was an unknown, dropping 500 pressings of a DBX-style tune on a label no-one had heard of. Maybe it's just envy - perhaps we'd all like a job where all we do is make lazy, plagiaristic tracks, using a deep pool of underground music to draw from, and then banking serious cash as the general public flock to our "new" and "innovative" releases. It'd be easy, wouldn't it? I'd make a track that was a pretty straight copy of "Rhythm" from Minimal Nation - sampling George Clinton as well, but programming the main melody line on a Nord Lead and maybe sticking some 909 rimshots in as well, then wait for the dollars to roll in while suing everyone who mentions the name "Robert Hood" on a message board. Life would be good! Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 poster
I got a signed copy of the DEMF poster from CPOP. Ciao. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: [313] DEMF 2002 poster > Ok - so I can't go but the poster is DOPE. Where can I get one? > > MEK > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Why did I have to start dating a girl whose not into techno and whose birthday is on the 25th May and who expects me to be here for her this year after I blew her off to go to Detroit last year? Tell me, why??? :) Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think that poster looks pretty cheesy - maybe that's cuz I'm an artist, I used to draw robots mixing when I was 16 like that. The only poster I like is the first one. At least this ones is better than last years though. >>> "Joel Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/12/02 12:41 PM >>> I got a signed copy of the DEMF poster from CPOP. Ciao. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: [313] DEMF 2002 poster > Ok - so I can't go but the poster is DOPE. Where can I get one? > > MEK > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hmm, I am not too impressed with the line up. There are definately some great artists on the roster, but I keep seeing a repetitive Detroit super hero collective. I wish that I could see more people like Claude Young, Jeff Mills, Dj Hell, Aphex Twin doing all his polygon window/caustic window stuff, something like that closing out a night. It's a pretty boring line up for me, I've seen almost everyone on there, and could see them again any day. I like the fact Chaos made the line up, they're a crazy live act. There are some good artists I'll be happy to see though, don't get me wrong. >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/12/02 12:45 PM >>> Why did I have to start dating a girl whose not into techno and whose birthday is on the 25th May and who expects me to be here for her this year after I blew her off to go to Detroit last year? Tell me, why??? :) Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If there's a DEMF next year, this is who I nominate to be on the committee. Dan Sicko Carl Craig Kelli Hand Dopplereffekt Theo Parrish Derrick Plaslaiko Liz Copeland - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
If anyone can send me the Wink track or knows where I can listen to it, please email me privately... Lucien [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster
Can someone please send me the link to see the poster? Thank you ! - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Catherine Eberhardt > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:52 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] DEMF 2002 poster > > I think that poster looks pretty cheesy - maybe that's cuz I'm an > artist, I used to draw robots mixing when I was 16 like that. The only > poster I like is the first one. At least this ones is better than last > years though. > >>> "Joel Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/12/02 12:41 PM >>> > I got a signed copy of the DEMF poster from CPOP. > > Ciao. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:32 AM > Subject: [313] DEMF 2002 poster > > > > Ok - so I can't go but the poster is DOPE. Where can I get one? > > > > MEK > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
dan sicko said: It actually says Drexciya!!! I know! But it doesn't say "Drexciya (live)" as mentioned in the interview on technotourist, i assume this is the first drexciyan dj performance. stewart said: Why did I have to start dating a girl whose not into techno and whose birthday is on the 25th May and who expects me to be here for her this year after I blew her off to go to Detroit last year? Tell me, why??? :) stewart, it's time to sever some ties...;P what do you see in this girl?? :P (im very kidding man..) catherine eberhardt said: Hmm, I am not too impressed with the line up. There are definately some great artists on the roster, but I keep seeing a repetitive Detroit i second that, aside from a few names i'm not too impressed. i'll be there tho, especially for the afterparties. two questions: in that detroit news article this morning, kevin saunderson states he will have nothing to do with this year's festival...!? and yet there he is listed...whats going on..? somebody changed his mind? 2nd...what's up with sponsorship this year? are we going to be bombarded with looping bacardi videos and airplanes flying banners etc etc again? given mitsubishi is running that retarded car commercial with the girl getting her rave-on in the car 50 times a day, i was half expecting to see them take ford's place... jt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. oh well..still pumped! jt _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Catherine Eberhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Derrick Plaslaiko Derek needs to play every DEMF.. He should get a whole stage to himself so he can play classic rock all day. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. oh well..still pumped! jt _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A Number of Names closing it out on the main stage tho!! nice!! that is a class decision there..wow.. maybe some of the live performances just arent noted. i assume black eyed peas and george clinton won't be spinning records. the lineup actually looks a lot nicer when it's laid out in the schedule...:) j _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
I wanted some Adult. but, I'm going to smile, shake my ass, and hurt my fingers throwing the devil's horns. - Original Message - From: Alexandres Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: J. T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up > Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no > Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. > > Peace, > Alex > www.fulcruminn.net > > > -Original Message- > From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > > > the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live > stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to > keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better > at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as > much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice > atmosphere and mood, to me.. > oh well..still pumped! > jt > > _ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I like aphex, but Im glad demf is staying a bit more detroit than that. bringing in the rephlex all stars would have just been sick though... like bodgan, cylob and aphex on a rotating stage. besides, didnt you catch aphex when he came to pontiac in 96? hehehehe -Joe - Original Message - From: "Alexandres Lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up > Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no > Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. > > Peace, > Alex > www.fulcruminn.net > > > -Original Message- > From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > > > the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live > stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to > keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better > at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as > much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice > atmosphere and mood, to me.. > oh well..still pumped! > jt > > _ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] boom
Okay, now let's play the 'which board member picked what artist' game :) Oh, and George Clinton closing the main stage on Sunday from 10.00pm onwards: that means he's only got two hours, barely his warmup time! Expect the main stage to remain open until 2am at least... Otto At 11:56 12-4-02 -0400, you wrote: >Sundiata >Chad Novak >Electric Indigo >Heather Heart >Gene Farris >DJ Zap >Mike Grant >Steve Rachmad >Dave Angel >Kevin Saunderson >Juan Atkins >Shorty >Erotek (live) >John Collins >Mad Professor(live) >Reggie Curry >T.Linder >Bill Beaver(live) >DeepChord(live) >Scott Grooves (dj & live) >Jon Tejada >Boo Williams >Cas Roc >Frankie Knuckles >DJ Shadow >Sarena Tyler >X - Ecutioners >Adam X >Black Eyed Peas >Bryan Zentz >Blake Baxter >Roni Size >Eddie Fowlkes >Mike Dearborn > George Clinton >Art Payne/ Keith Martin >Gary Martin >Rick Wade >Stewart Walker(live) >Paul Johnson >Drexciya >Ethan Kline >Derrick Thompson >Kenny Dope >Chaos (live) >Bone >Dave Clark >Roy Davis, Jr. >Dennis Cox >Green Velvet(live) >Frankie Bones >K.Hand >Advent( Live) >DJ Funk >Rob Hood >Colin Dale >A Number of Names(live) >Dwayne Jensen >Steve Tang >Greg Collier >Matt Clark >Melvin Hill >Black Bottom Collective(live) >Mike Huckaby >DJ Dangerous >Ron Carroll >T-1000 >Traxx > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I like aphex, but Im glad demf is staying a bit more detroit than that. bringing in the rephlex all stars would have just been sick though... like bodgan, cylob and aphex on a rotating stage. besides, didnt you catch aphex when he came to pontiac in 96? hehehehe -Joe Rotating - as in like a round stage that revolves? That would be awesome! ;) MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sorry if there's a double post ... didn't see my reply come through. it is my understanding that they tried to get both Aphex and Kraftwerk. -d At 1:39 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice atmosphere and mood, to me.. oh well..still pumped! jt _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Noticed something interesting about the DEMF www site. Click on PCM web link at the bottom and see where it takes you. me thinks the mole is active again. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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aaah, well, at least they tried. Can't complain about that then... Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up sorry if there's a double post ... didn't see my reply come through. >> it is my understanding that they tried to get both Aphex and Kraftwerk. -d At 1:39 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: >Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no >Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. > >Peace, >Alex >www.fulcruminn.net > > >-Original Message- >From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:34 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > > >the biggest disappointment to me is that there doesnt seem to be much live >stuff this year. they said in that detroit news article that they wanted to >keep people dancing all day this time, i guess they assume dj's are better >at this...personally i just think daylight keeps people from dancing as >much...and i really like checking out live stuff during the day, nice >atmosphere and mood, to me.. >oh well..still pumped! >jt > >_ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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well, MGD stands for Miller Genuine Draft, so there's (burp) that At 1:23 PM -0400 4/12/2002, J. T. wrote: dan sicko said: It actually says Drexciya!!! I know! But it doesn't say "Drexciya (live)" as mentioned in the interview on technotourist, i assume this is the first drexciyan dj performance. stewart said: Why did I have to start dating a girl whose not into techno and whose birthday is on the 25th May and who expects me to be here for her this year after I blew her off to go to Detroit last year? Tell me, why??? :) stewart, it's time to sever some ties...;P what do you see in this girl?? :P (im very kidding man..) catherine eberhardt said: Hmm, I am not too impressed with the line up. There are definately some great artists on the roster, but I keep seeing a repetitive Detroit i second that, aside from a few names i'm not too impressed. i'll be there tho, especially for the afterparties. two questions: in that detroit news article this morning, kevin saunderson states he will have nothing to do with this year's festival...!? and yet there he is listed...whats going on..? somebody changed his mind? 2nd...what's up with sponsorship this year? are we going to be bombarded with looping bacardi videos and airplanes flying banners etc etc again? given mitsubishi is running that retarded car commercial with the girl getting her rave-on in the car 50 times a day, i was half expecting to see them take ford's place... jt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Record shops in Detroit
Hi all :) Who know where i can find a list of Detroit's record shops? Thanks Thomas Van Steen. http://www.pulsation.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF 2002 poster - yikes.
Yeah Yeah, it's a matter of opinion but that's pretty lame. It doesn't say anything to me about the soul or history of the music, in fact, it makes it seem just like I don't want it to, robotic and soulless. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:37 PM > To: Giles Dickerson > Subject: RE: [313] DEMF 2002 poster > > > http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/poster12_20020412.htm > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia...
I remember seeing a link to one on http://www.technasia.com/technasia/welcome.html Love those guys... m* - Original Message - From: "robin pinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [313] Technasia... > > > > does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? > > > the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. > > yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too > > robin... > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... > > > > > > 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few > > weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one > > of the better sets we had recently heard. > > > > Well, well worth booking. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 > > Subject: [313] Technasia... > > > > > > > Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? > > > There are still a few open dates on their tour. > > > > > > If so, drop me a line. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > G > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > robin... > -- > Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 > Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 > --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
At 1:39 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Alexandres Lugo wrote: Definitely disappointed with the lack of live stuff too...and still no Kraftwerk or Aphex...oh well, not surprised but disenchanted. it's my understanding that they tried for both of the above. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
and why is roy davis jr playing at 12:00? -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:15 AM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up > > >It actually says Drexciya!!! I know! But it doesn't say "Drexciya (live)" [semi-rhetorical question] And why aren't they closing out that stage?? -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
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Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour
Additional 3 Chairs dates include: May 11 Nat'l. Centre for Popular Music/Sheffield May 12 Plastic People/London May 16 Scheune Nightclub/Dresden May 17 Sam Lord/Frankfurt May 18 BackFabrik/Berlin May 19 Vega Club/Copenhagen Currently working on another European tour for Oct/Nov of 2002, as well as North American tour for Sept. 2002 Keeps yo eye/ears on... From: tom churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Three Chairs Tour Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:52:43 +0100 > Anyone know anything about a tour in the UK, w/Kenny Dixon, Theo Parrish, > Rick Wilhite? Don't know details of a tour, but Traxx here in Glasgow are putting them on at the Arches on May 10... I'm sure they'll be doing other dates while they're over... Cheers, Tom | tom churchill | emoticon recordings | http://www.emoticonrecordings.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
