[313] 313 food
for the love of god - please stop this thread ! ! ! it's making me so hungry ! ! ! p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New Tejada album!!!
Yeah, this album was originally going to another label but they chilled on it at the last minute. It's a fine if *mildly* experimental release for Tejada, but that of course is relative. I think it's great within the fabric of his other releases...he keeps on pushing himself in ways that many others don't. Heath Arne Weinberg wrote: > Hello dear list members! > > Coming out very soon: (17/05/02 in germany) > John Tejada - Daydreams in cold weather / Plug Research LP > > The next strike from Mr. Tejada and again as usual a superb and highly > recommended release! > This album is a very very good follow up to his album on De:focus. > Nice soulful electronica, hip hop, downbeat, call it what you want music. > Also featured on this masterpiece a new track with the Divine Styler. > > Do you also have the feeling that John Tejada is not getting enough attention > in the press??? > Honestly there are not much articles or interviews here in germany about/with > him... > What's the situation in other countries? > > Regards, Arne > > -- > °°° > www.arneweinberg.de > STARBABY Rec. > DOWN LOW MUSIC > NATIVE Rec. > KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) > °°° > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Mutek Res
Hey, Since everyone's on the topic of accomodation, and since I'm NOT going to demf,anyone got tips on good accom inthe Montreal Area? I'm looking for a couple of nights. at the end of May. greg kamloops, bc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Shorecrest Inn?
we stayed at the shorecrest last year. it's an easy walk to hart plaza, the diner is excellent for breakfast, it's clean, has hot water and a bed. this really is a case where the only time you spend in the hotel is sleeping. spend the money you save buying theo parrish whitelabels at the trackmode party. james www.jbucknell.com > From: shower_blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: shower_blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:40:52 -0700 (PDT) > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] Shorecrest Inn? > > how's the Shorecrest as a place to stay for demf? > is the Courtyard Marriott worth the extra $50 a night? > > thanks. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New Tejada album!!!
> Maybe after he plays this next installment of DEMF he'll get more exposure. > I know that it's hard for my local record shop to keep his releases in > stock but maybe that's because I keep buying them. Yeah, John Tejada is doing lts of releases right now but I think he is one of the few that always keep their work high quality. Sure, he also has some weaker records but these "bad" records are much better than tons of other crappy records that are released every week. I hope that he is keeping up the good work in the future. The only thing that I don't like too much are the remixes he is doing well, just my personal opinion... Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] attack of the clone
innercity / clone party @ electronic box, smyth street, wakefield. friday 31st may, 9pm - 3am, £9 door >>> £7 early discount paying guest list now available. limited number only. hit reply! electro man of the moment DEXTER headlines LIVE. both his 12's have been charted at number 1 by andy weatherall and dave clarke and he featured 2 trax on the clone album "we still kill the old way" which also featured detroit fanatic fabrice lig aka soul designer. he's just completed a remix too of media sluts fischerspooner (emerge) which is, we hear, the best thing fischerspooner have ever had to their name. uk debut. holland's no.1 detroit style techno duo DUPLEX also play LIVE. they've just put the finishing touches to an all new live set and will be premiering it here in the uk. a new album for CLONE is on the way. DUPLEX - REBUILD still going strong and featuring a tasty remix from man of the hour fabrice lig. uk debut dj support comes from CLONE main man SERGE playing trax from the whole electro spectrum including CLONE labels - dub, murder capital, klakson, viewlexx, den haag etc..a great dj. uk debut also in attendance dj DAZ QUAYLE of SCSI:AV and HAYWIRE SESSIONS. Leeds mainstay who's been on the scene for many years played at the infamous haywire parties in leeds several years ago with the likes of andy weatherall, cold dust, mark turner, von trapp family etc. Daz's Leeds based label is home also to CARL FINLOW aka SILICON SCALLY/RANDOM FACTOR. Daz played at last year's dedbeat weekend and via haywire has played alongside the cream of international talent including ectomorph, kitbuilders, i-f, anthony rother etc wakefield debut! (new album from carl finlow on scsi, free give aways on the night) __ friday 28th june, 9pm - 3am, £tbc soon MICHAEL FORSHAW - LIVE mentalist! makes and plays some of the scariest sh*t out there. all recorded in blackpool and still on a f***ing wurlitzer of course. check www.chan-n-mikes.com for some real audio. more bad taste djs tbc soon __ friday 26th july and friday 30th august, 9pm - 3am entry £3 INNERCITY RECORDS' BATTLE OF THE DJz with summer upon us and the clubs emptying we're holding guests back till later in the year. 45 minute slot per dj. winner receives £200 voucher to spend at innercity and a slot at a later date with a top name dj who suits their style. to enter bring your tape to either of the next 2 innercity parties and leave them at the bar. i will be listening to ALL tapes and will pick the best 16 sets for the 2 dates. all electronic musical styles represented but please try and stand out or do something a bit different. impress us!!! tapes will not be considered that are posted or dropped off at the shop, sorry - support us + we'll support you back. _ ..big big electro parties with some real legends for september and october. more info soon. wanna play? hit reply. thanks for your time. paul www.innercity.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] New Tejada album!!!
Hello dear list members! Coming out very soon: (17/05/02 in germany) John Tejada - Daydreams in cold weather / Plug Research LP The next strike from Mr. Tejada and again as usual a superb and highly recommended release! This album is a very very good follow up to his album on De:focus. Nice soulful electronica, hip hop, downbeat, call it what you want music. Also featured on this masterpiece a new track with the Divine Styler. Do you also have the feeling that John Tejada is not getting enough attention in the press??? Honestly there are not much articles or interviews here in germany about/with him... What's the situation in other countries? Regards, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Wired magazine - ALL GONE
We have our winners! Thank you to all who participated - you'll go home with the Wired boardgame edition and a lifetime supply of Crest toothpaste - Crest , gets your teeth whiter and your breath fresher! MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Wired magazine - laptop techno
me me me me! on 16/5/02 9:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I found a couple more copies - who wants one? I lost my previous list of > people so the first two responses get an issue each. > > MEK > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Wired magazine - laptop techno
I found a couple more copies - who wants one? I lost my previous list of people so the first two responses get an issue each. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Shorecrest Inn?
I was there the first year and didn't have any problems -- it's a 15-minute walk up Jefferson and has a nice diner. I seem to remember some lowrider activity on the street in back, but loud systems aren't much of a concern at DEMF... ;> > -Original Message- > From: shower_blue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:41 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] Shorecrest Inn? > > > how's the Shorecrest as a place to stay for demf? > is the Courtyard Marriott worth the extra $50 a night? > > thanks. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Shorecrest Inn?
how's the Shorecrest as a place to stay for demf? is the Courtyard Marriott worth the extra $50 a night? thanks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] testing
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[313] Detroit Food: Sushi/Thai/etc
Noble Fish on 14 mile just east of Main in the north suburbs (Clawson) has great, inexpensive sushi--Great because it's excellent sushi; the cheap part is all bonus: http://detroit.citysearch.com/user_review?fid=2&id=5116790 Thai Bangkok on Joseph Campau in downtown Hamtramck (a few blocks south of Lush on the same side of the street) makes an excellent, huge plate of Pad Thai. (at least they did last time i was there a few years back) La Shish on Michigan Ave in east dearborn has tasty lamb and hummus dishes. Breakfast at the Clock in Hamtramck (north of Canfield on Jos Campau) after the bars close can be a near religious experience. (all the smoke has a hellish feel, waiting for service is like purgatory but the breakfast sausages are heavenly) Traffic Jam/Cass Cafe north of downtown in the Cass Corridor are a couple of decent choices for pastas, burgers, veggie items as well. Motor City Brewing works in Traffic Jam's parking lot brews great beer and the Traffic Jam makes its own cheese and also brew their own beers--TJ's Java Porter is potent but so delicious you keep on drinking long past the point of sensible inebriation. damn. that made me hungry. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: way funny
sorry for the off topic post but this is way funny. http://www.dictionaraoke.mirrors.gweep.net there are a few slighty 313 related songs scotto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] track id
on "spool 5-8" . d Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:39:12 +0200 To: <313@hyperreal.org> From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: track id Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a groovin´ tribal track in a jeff mills set from 1999 with vocals: "this court is now in session, session, session, ... " anyone? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] kenny larkin
I´ve seen this record called "POD - gestator/whelk/son of whelk (sabrettes)" and I once heard that pod = kenny larkin. Is this record any good? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Eyes Only: Detroit Date and Lineup Modifications
Fulcrum Innovations presents: Eyes Only: Detroit ***5.26.2K2*** Ultradyne - Warp, Pi Gao Movement - Live Tek Brothers - Submerge - Live Tangible - Pi Gao Movement - Live ***Archetype - Black Nation - Live*** ***AudioMatriX - USR - Live*** Kid Goesting - BlackLabel, _xerox) - DJ Koert Notario and Electronome - Courthouse Intl. Audio, Nu-Vorm - DJ Tag Team Mark S. Krüx - NYC - DJ Mike Ransom - Layout, 309 - DJ Liberal Arts Gallery - 3361 Gratiot (one block north of Mack) Detroit, MI 18+ with I.D. Surveillance by A.R.M. --- No drugs!!! $15 Advance (www.ticketweb.com) / $20 @door Brought to you by: Fulcrum Innovations (Detroit) Undercity Distribution (Amsterdam) Courthouse International Audio (Amsterdam) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ko art show this Saturday, Detroit
This is a press release that I thought some people in Detroit would be interested in checking out. Ko's art has been featured around Detroit and Windsor with attention from even mr.mills, I believe.Some true, young talent that deserves support IMHO. It should be a good showing. There was a nice attachment, but..ce la vie enjoy. diana For immediate release: May 14, 2002 - Detroit, MI, Lavalourne Fine Arts and R O A M Gallery present a collection of oil on canvas works by Ko Bhamra, on exhibition from May 18 through June 8, 2002. Please join the artist for an opening reception: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:00 10:30 pm R OA M Gallery 212 W. 11 Mile (between Main & Washington) Royal Oak, MI 248.245.ROAM Ko Bhamra is a Windsor-based visual artist who exhibits regularly in Detroit. Her paintings pulsate with soulful dance expressions wrapped in rich, thickly-blended colors, bursting with the freedom and beauty of female sexuality. She has had several works commissioned, including the commemorative piece Soultakers for Windsors Life Festival Canada in Summer 2001. Kos paintings will be on exhibit until June 8. Gallery hours are Wednesday Saturday, 3:00 9:00 pm. __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture of skilled, > performing DJs is strong in the US and not so strong in Europe - I know mine > is pretty flawed, but in the absence of alternatives (other than > "euro-faggots suck" :) I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is. > Although I guess another theory could be explained in only two words - "hip > hop"... the hiphop influence might have something to do with it, but im not too sure. the UK has had its share of DMC style deejays that can run things. you might just be overlooking some of the big cheese here in america like Keoki et al who have no styles at all, but still get booked a ton. i think as the US club scene becomes more and more popular, bad trance/prog house deejays will become even bigger than they are now. and we already have sasha and digweed and oakenfold touring here constantly, giving everyone that kind of image to look up to. tom ~ Thomas D. Cox, Jr. AKA Kevlar Moneyclips CEO http://www.steelcitysoul.com Record Reviews http://www.ukgarageworldwide.com/ Blood-Clot DeeJay http://www.strikefm.co.uk/ ~ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) DJ ESP on Generator
There was a trance label out of germany who used the same matrix system as Generator (of Detroit), AO told me that was one of the contributing factors to shutting down the label, amongst many others. as for my original question, i think I figured out why the set isn't listed on the web site. Since Pure Sonic is a T-1000 release only label, the web page is essentially a T-1000 page. All the records that HE has produced are on the page...including the DJAX and Tresor stuff. So Woody McBride doesn't get on the page unless he collaborated with AO...I'm dumb...It is probably the best release on Generator though... Jeff > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:32 AM > To: FC3 Richards; '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: RE: (313) DJ ESP on Generator > > h GEN009... My favorite Generator release! Woody at his best! Isn't > that > Telesender record on Generator by ESP as well? > > As to a German Generator label, I only know of a Generation or Generatio > label > that apearred around that same time. > > -Original Message- > From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at inet-1 > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:55 PM > To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> at INET-1 > Subject: [313] DJ ESP on Generator > > > here is a tough question > > I have this release on Generator records from a few years back by DJ ESP. > It says that plainly on the label. And inscribed on the wax itself is the > GEN009 matrix number for the release. It is a double pack and is (i > believe) called Transporter. Now why is it that when you go to the pure > sonic web page and look at the Generator release's GEN009 is clearly not > listed. Was this never released to the public, or is this a release on > the > other Generator records out of Germany. I am assuming it is AO's > Generator > because of the fact that Woody did plenty of work with him in the past. > HELP...Mr Oldham maybe your explanation would be the best. > > jeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > ATTENTION: > The information in this electronic mail message is private and > confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you > receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that > any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this > message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by > reply transmission and delete the message without copying or > opening it. > > Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. > If this message contains password-protected attachments, the > files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. > Always scan attachments before opening them. > - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] cursor miner, quartet electronnicke, theboylucas and more
off topic and shameless plug! but hope of some relevance... apologies in advance to anybody who takes offence at this kind of party announcement, i'm not about to barrage you with regular info, this is a one off and we're just hoping the information and sonomu itself is of interest to 313 members who make music or run small labels or are curious about keeping their ears open to new music THURSDAY 23 MAY THE SONOMU PARTY tickets on sale now: http://party.sonomu.net to celebrate the existence of SONOMU - new music discovery + discussion - we're holding a night of sound noise music beer people and fun we are really excited to announce the following extraordinary lineup of musicians taking part in SONOMU's official LAUNCH party and we sincerely hope you'll come and join us on the night! live: cursor miner (lo recordings), junkboy (moshi moshi), quartet electronnicke (omsk), rothko (too pure), simon fisher turner (mute) djs: midnight mike & zongamin (flesh), theboylucas (output)+sonomu residents visual trickery: mondo (raya) intervention: OMSK strange electricity: dorkbot the party will be held at a secret london warehouse location disclosed to sonomu members only. doors 8pm. £6 (includes one free drink!). buy your tickets here: http://party.sonomu.net -- _ state51 conspirator: http://state51.co.uk/ http://sonomu.net/ : your sound.noise. music. http://party.sonomu.net/ : live music, djs, beer, fun http://skam.com/ : british sea power exercise in our gym - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
That was what I was going to say... US DJ Culture is based very strongly on hip-hop DJs who do battle-style mixing and scratching and tricks and all sorts of stuff like that. It seems to me that European DJs are based more on disco/house-style mixing which is more about flow and smooth mixing. I personally like both style in the appropriate time and place. At 05:23 PM 5/16/2002 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so strong in Europe - I know mine is pretty flawed, but in the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :) I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is. Although I guess another theory could be explained in only two words - "hip hop"... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 17:13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are > illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any > number of individual and cultural factors lead people to > choice between > different kinds of drugs when they go out. > > to me, that's just one among a great number of reasons why demand for > certain styles of dj-ing goes way beyond alcohol age limits. > > > ben > > > > > > On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not > necessarily a bad > > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've > heard is that > > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't > (legally) drink, and > > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - > they want a DJ to > > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are > less fussed > > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby > American DJs > > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go > down well with > > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay > attention to what's > > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to > be drunk, and > > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even > slightly bad mix - > > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it > might involve > > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music > history, such as > > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of > drugs and drink > > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing > skills were actually > > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with > excellent skills, > > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't > really want to watch > > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm > with a DJ who's > > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of > a techno DJ doing > > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember > seeing Claude > > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were > shocked into silence > > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab > scratching! I loved it > > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck > tricks in the DJ > > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) > does he choose > > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours > with no major > > f*ckups? > > > > Brendan > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the > incredible skills > > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > > Detroit DJ culture > > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > > > > Legal Disclaimer > > > > This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for > > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee > you should not > > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > the sender > > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete > > this e-mail from your system. > > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, > destroyed, arrive late or > > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does > not accept > > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of > this message that > > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification > is required > > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provide
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I'd still be interested in other theories as to why a culture of skilled, performing DJs is strong in the US and not so strong in Europe - I know mine is pretty flawed, but in the absence of alternatives (other than "euro-faggots suck" :) I'm generally confused as to why it is the way it is. Although I guess another theory could be explained in only two words - "hip hop"... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 17:13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are > illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any > number of individual and cultural factors lead people to > choice between > different kinds of drugs when they go out. > > to me, that's just one among a great number of reasons why demand for > certain styles of dj-ing goes way beyond alcohol age limits. > > > ben > > > > > > On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not > necessarily a bad > > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've > heard is that > > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't > (legally) drink, and > > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - > they want a DJ to > > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are > less fussed > > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby > American DJs > > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go > down well with > > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay > attention to what's > > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to > be drunk, and > > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even > slightly bad mix - > > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it > might involve > > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music > history, such as > > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of > drugs and drink > > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing > skills were actually > > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with > excellent skills, > > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't > really want to watch > > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm > with a DJ who's > > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of > a techno DJ doing > > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember > seeing Claude > > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were > shocked into silence > > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab > scratching! I loved it > > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck > tricks in the DJ > > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) > does he choose > > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours > with no major > > f*ckups? > > > > Brendan > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the > incredible skills > > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > > Detroit DJ culture > > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > > > > Legal Disclaimer > > > > This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for > > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee > you should not > > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > the sender > > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete > > this e-mail from your system. > > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, > destroyed, arrive late or > > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does > not accept > > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of > this message that > > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification > is required > > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > > informational purposes only. > > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd > Registered office: > > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-m
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
so your saying we all piss heads... :0) -Original Message- From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2002 17:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any number of individual and cultural factors lead people to choice between different kinds of drugs when they go out. to me, that's just one among a great number of reasons why demand for certain styles of dj-ing goes way beyond alcohol age limits. ben On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it might involve > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music history, such as > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of drugs and drink > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills were actually > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with excellent skills, > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really want to watch > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with a DJ who's > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a techno DJ doing > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember seeing Claude > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were shocked into silence > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab scratching! I loved it > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck tricks in the DJ > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Brendan > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > informational purposes only. > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > data general=== ==www.umich.edu/~btausig=== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
oh right sorry :) I see what you mean. yes very true on the mistakes bit, so many say wowo what a set loved it I could.nt hear any mistakes, were I and you know there were a few!! funny that isn't it.. oh well we will see what happens on Saturday and how many say I am crap :) oh but your doing a live set, well hats off to you mate! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2002 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to Claude Young in those two "main questions" below - instead I was referring to a hypothetical, generic, new British DJ on the scene. I'd rather here Claude Young or Jeff Mills as well, and am fine with hearing the odd mistake, but then again that could be because me and you are both DJs, and so we're interested in the skills whether drunk or not... it's just that the average UK clubgoer, who isn't a DJ, probably wouldn't notice. Most people who I speak to after doing a set will say "it was brilliant - I couldn't even notice you mixing between tracks!" while for me it's the opposite - I like to hear what a DJ is actually doing, and a pro-tools style mix will generally bore me stiff... > -Original Message- > From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 17:00 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I agree with you but > > The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Well he does double up records, and do tricks.. > > i would rather here someone like Claude Young or Jeff, Beyer > etc where they > try hard and yeah a couple of > mistakes will be in there but at least they are trying > instead of a seamless > CD mix that sounds like a pro tool mix.. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:55 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not > necessarily a bad > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've > heard is that > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't > (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they > want a DJ to > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are > less fussed > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby > American DJs > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go > down well with > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay > attention to what's > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to > be drunk, and > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even > slightly bad mix - > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it > might involve > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music > history, such as > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of > drugs and drink > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills > were actually > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with > excellent skills, > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really > want to watch > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with > a DJ who's > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a > techno DJ doing > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember > seeing Claude > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were > shocked into silence > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab > scratching! I loved it > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck > tricks in the DJ > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) > does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Brendan > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you > should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately
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on 16/5/02 5:11 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think E and alcohol have > similar effects in that they both make people lose interest in the > technicalities of a DJ set and pay more attention to the general flow and > structure instead... oh i couldn't agree more - it's the only way i can explain the popularity of trance and hard house for a start:) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any number of individual and cultural factors lead people to choice between different kinds of drugs when they go out. to me, that's just one among a great number of reasons why demand for certain styles of dj-ing goes way beyond alcohol age limits. ben On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it might involve > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music history, such as > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of drugs and drink > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills were actually > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with excellent skills, > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really want to watch > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with a DJ who's > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a techno DJ doing > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember seeing Claude > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were shocked into silence > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab scratching! I loved it > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck tricks in the DJ > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Brendan > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > informational purposes only. > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > data general=== ==www.umich.edu/~btausig=== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message- > From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 17:02 > > on 16/5/02 4:54 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't > (legally) drink, and > > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - > > to be honest, most kids that age that go clubbing in Europe do E. > > and no one tends to ask you for ID before selling you that:) That's true! But even if the average person's on one, they're still going to want to just dance, and probably won't appreciate a DJ interrupting his flow to embark on a five-minute turntablism session. I think E and alcohol have similar effects in that they both make people lose interest in the technicalities of a DJ set and pay more attention to the general flow and structure instead... Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] S.O.S DEMF PARTY MAY 25
We welcome you to Our international DEMF PARTY SAT MAY 25 , 2002 MOTOR LOUGE The Event will be the Bomb party of the festival Live Pa Scan 7 i mean no disrespect to this event (looks to be a blast), but have you guys even thought about space considerations with all those live pa's? That's going to be some way overcrowded stuff going on. #1 thing promoters never think about when it comes to a live pa: that they might actually need room to set up. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to Claude Young in those two "main questions" below - instead I was referring to a hypothetical, generic, new British DJ on the scene. I'd rather here Claude Young or Jeff Mills as well, and am fine with hearing the odd mistake, but then again that could be because me and you are both DJs, and so we're interested in the skills whether drunk or not... it's just that the average UK clubgoer, who isn't a DJ, probably wouldn't notice. Most people who I speak to after doing a set will say "it was brilliant - I couldn't even notice you mixing between tracks!" while for me it's the opposite - I like to hear what a DJ is actually doing, and a pro-tools style mix will generally bore me stiff... > -Original Message- > From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 17:00 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I agree with you but > > The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Well he does double up records, and do tricks.. > > i would rather here someone like Claude Young or Jeff, Beyer > etc where they > try hard and yeah a couple of > mistakes will be in there but at least they are trying > instead of a seamless > CD mix that sounds like a pro tool mix.. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:55 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip > > > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not > necessarily a bad > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've > heard is that > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't > (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they > want a DJ to > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are > less fussed > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby > American DJs > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go > down well with > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay > attention to what's > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to > be drunk, and > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even > slightly bad mix - > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it > might involve > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music > history, such as > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of > drugs and drink > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills > were actually > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with > excellent skills, > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really > want to watch > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with > a DJ who's > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a > techno DJ doing > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember > seeing Claude > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were > shocked into silence > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab > scratching! I loved it > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck > tricks in the DJ > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) > does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Brendan > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you > should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, > arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this > message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provide
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
on 16/5/02 4:54 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - to be honest, most kids that age that go clubbing in Europe do E. and no one tends to ask you for ID before selling you that:) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
:I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not :necessarily a bad :reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that :it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. :Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) :drink, and :so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to :actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed :about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs :with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with :the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's :going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and :therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - :they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. er, i could be wrong (not being from america and all) but surely if the age limit is higher younger people wont get into clubs rather than being allowed in and not allowed to drink (as this would be nightmarish to enforce (checking id on every drink purchase rather than once on entry) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I agree with you but The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major f*ckups? Well he does double up records, and do tricks.. i would rather here someone like Claude Young or Jeff, Beyer etc where they try hard and yeah a couple of mistakes will be in there but at least they are trying instead of a seamless CD mix that sounds like a pro tool mix.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2002 16:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it might involve looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music history, such as the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of drugs and drink led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills were actually pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with excellent skills, lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really want to watch some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with a DJ who's constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a techno DJ doing deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember seeing Claude Young in London about eight years ago, and people were shocked into silence even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab scratching! I loved it myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck tricks in the DJ trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major f*ckups? Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > Detroit DJ culture > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > on 313. What is this theory based on ? Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
its based on hearing a whole lot of DJ sets over the years. i guess i have everyone with a co.uk panties in a bunch. there are lots of great european djs. but there's also a lot who have great selection, maybe great producers, but their actual mixing isn't as flawless as what you usually hear in detroit. and baby ford is one of them (return to original topic) i would encourgae everyone to go see him. the records he plays will tear your skin off. just be forewared not to expect seemless mixing. sheesh. On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted on 313. What is > this theory based on ? > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it might involve looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music history, such as the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of drugs and drink led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills were actually pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with excellent skills, lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really want to watch some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with a DJ who's constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a techno DJ doing deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember seeing Claude Young in London about eight years ago, and people were shocked into silence even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab scratching! I loved it myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck tricks in the DJ trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major f*ckups? Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > Detroit DJ culture > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > on 313. What is this theory based on ? Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Renasaince Center Room for $50
3 months ago I booked a room at the Renasaince Center for my friends and I, as of yesturday they decided to back out. So I am offering to anyone who wants to stay with us its only $75-$50 perperson for the 2 nights that we will be staying there(saturday & sunday). We have a 2 double bed smoking room. We are nice clean folk from Ohio who just drink and smoke and would love meet new people. So hit me up if you are interrested. Peace Ben Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone..(419)343-6448 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted on 313. What is this theory based on ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. On Thu, 16 May 2002, robin pinning wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi. > > > > Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys. > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > i love over-generalisationit's what internet mailing lists are all > about... > > ahem. > > > robin... > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] S.O.S DEMF PARTY MAY 25
S.O.S Saving Our Sounds Detroit Giving you more than just Dj. s You will always see live Pa of some of the best underground second generation detroit techno legends. RESPECT IS DUE We welcome you to Our international DEMF PARTY SAT MAY 25 , 2002 MOTOR LOUGE The Event will be the Bomb party of the festival Live Pa Scan 7 Dj Genesis Dj Ivan Sellers Old School Hip Hop (Puzzlebox Records) Live Pa Strand Live Pa Layout Dj Koert (Courthouse The Netherlands) Dj sERGE (Paris France Paradise Massage) Live Pa Optic Nerve (Special non vocal Theatre of the Eye Show) dJ kEVIN Gentile Special GUEST Apperance THE AUXMEN -- AND DONT FORGET TO PICK UP YOUR NEW REFLECTIVE S.O.S T-SHIRTS -- \Info at http://www.optic-universe.com/soshome.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID
Ha! It is Jamie Foxx! I was watching his special on BET or Comedy years ago and all of a sudden he starts making fun of these RnB guys and how they all write the same songs! My jaw dropped! It was the early nineties though, he has a fade and baggy shiney "hammer" pants. hehehe good job TP ollie www.forwardmusic.com forwardMusic showcase - PEMF - Monday May 27th - Original Message - From: "Giles Dickerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:07 Subject: RE: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID > "I need...to haveyou next to me..." > > That brings back memories. > > - Giles > > D I G I T A S // B O S T O N > -- > Giles Dickerson > Art Director > 800 Boylston Street > Boston, MA > 02199 > -- > mobile 617 899 9635 > office 617 369 8601 > > > -- > > From: Kent williams > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:49 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID > > > > On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > A friend of mine really wants to find out the source of the vocal sample > > > (is it a sample?) on 7 Grand Housing Authority's "Love's got me High" - the > > > part that goes "I need your love next to me" and of course the title verse. > > > > > > > Jamie Foxx. Not sure of the source. You could ask Terrence directly the > > actual source of the sample ... I think it's a sample of a comedy performance > > where Jamie portrays a Luther Vandross/Keith Sweat/R.Kelly style R&B crooner. > > If you listen closely there is audience reaction in the sample, and places > > where it's obvious the original sample was in a different key than TP's track. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Karaoke
HI!! yes it is happening... but this year me and John Santos are NOT involved. It is all Brian Gillespie this year. I really wanted to do it, but since Jon was not coming back to DEMF this year it did not seem right for me... but it will still be GREAT with Brian doing everything.. nancy --- Ian Malbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/16/02 8:36 AM, "Phonopsia" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I noticed in this article > > > http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3267 > that the techno > > karaoke party is going on again this year on the > Thursday. Has anyone heard > > anything about the lineup? > > I heard rumblings from very close to the source that > included Ectomorph, > Dykehouse, and the return of Rotator. Several more > mentioned. > -- > im > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = Nancy Mitchell Artist Management and Promotions FORM,Inc. Tokyo Japan Tel: +81-(0)3-5459-3939 Fax: +81-(0)3-5459-3940 URL Address: http://www.womb.co.jp EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID
"I need...to haveyou next to me..." That brings back memories. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 > -- > From: Kent williams > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID > > On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > A friend of mine really wants to find out the source of the vocal sample > > (is it a sample?) on 7 Grand Housing Authority's "Love's got me High" - the > > part that goes "I need your love next to me" and of course the title verse. > > > > Jamie Foxx. Not sure of the source. You could ask Terrence directly the > actual source of the sample ... I think it's a sample of a comedy performance > where Jamie portrays a Luther Vandross/Keith Sweat/R.Kelly style R&B crooner. > If you listen closely there is audience reaction in the sample, and places > where it's obvious the original sample was in a different key than TP's track. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] NYC tonight
party out of bounds ** this thurs. 05/16: metro area all-nighter ** @ APT - 419 W 13th St. btw 9th & washington 212.414.4245 metro area (morgan geist & darshan jesrani) mix up deep disco, house, techno, obscure gems and classics, plus beatboxes & effects! 10pm - 4am free for all - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID
On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A friend of mine really wants to find out the source of the vocal sample > (is it a sample?) on 7 Grand Housing Authority's "Love's got me High" - the > part that goes "I need your love next to me" and of course the title verse. > Jamie Foxx. Not sure of the source. You could ask Terrence directly the actual source of the sample ... I think it's a sample of a comedy performance where Jamie portrays a Luther Vandross/Keith Sweat/R.Kelly style R&B crooner. If you listen closely there is audience reaction in the sample, and places where it's obvious the original sample was in a different key than TP's track. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Karaoke
On 5/16/02 8:36 AM, "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed in this article > http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3267 that the techno > karaoke party is going on again this year on the Thursday. Has anyone heard > anything about the lineup? I heard rumblings from very close to the source that included Ectomorph, Dykehouse, and the return of Rotator. Several more mentioned. -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) New Blaze LP
And I was recently made to realize that there is some (still mysterious) difference between a studio album and a 2 x 12". Not sure what this difference is but apparently it exists. At 01:26 PM 5/16/2002 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: probably the first album for Kickin in 10 years... -Original Message- From: "Batory; Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at inet-1 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:06 AM To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> at INET-1 Subject: [313] New Blaze LP I've just been reading on http://www.kickinmusic.com that Slip 'n' Slide is about to release Blaze's "first original studio album in over 10 years". How are their last 3 (4?) albums not original studio albums? Respect JasonB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
>collard beans n corn bread m good! Makes me want to go back to N. Carolina and visit my folks. MEK "Southern Outpost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <313@hyperreal.org> utpost.com> cc: Subject: RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more 05/16/02 05:14 AM Mama's Kitchen Soul food... Can't remember where it was, but hell the ribs looked amazing, the deep fried chicken was excellent and got schooled in collard beans n corn bread. Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 3:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] T.Parker/Housing Authority sample ID
A friend of mine really wants to find out the source of the vocal sample (is it a sample?) on 7 Grand Housing Authority's "Love's got me High" - the part that goes "I need your love next to me" and of course the title verse. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi. > > Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys. > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) i love over-generalisationit's what internet mailing lists are all about... ahem. robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
have to disagree here, mark broom has excellent dj skills, baby ford is not the typical dj doing lots of tricks, but i enjoy his mix of classics and newer stuff very much, and his mixing has improved a lot expect things like rock to the beat, ride the rhythm, and disco classics from patrick cowley, and also quite a few releases from his own ifach and trelik imprints. it's worth it, and if you like classics and share the opinion that good sj sets do not consist of the newest stuff only give it a check. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Zip is playing the Paxahau Perlon party at Panacea (aliteration whut!!!) > > Baby Ford is not playing in Detroit. > > You can hear Baby Ford at www.paxahau.com > > Like a lot of UK DJs, the tracks are amazing, but the skills are asi-asi. > > Mark Broom is the same way, as are a lot of those guys. > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to Detroit DJ culture > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: > > > > > They are playing tonight in NYC @ Filter 14. Anyone ever see them dj ? > > > > Also, are they playing @ DEMF for the perlon party? > > > > Thanks for the info, > > -Pete > > > > --- > > Peter Grammenos > > Goldman Sachs & Co. > > Tel : 212.902.2446 > > --- > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
Um, that's "collard greens"...;) Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Southern Outpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Mama's Kitchen Soul food... Can't remember where it was, but hell the ribs looked amazing, the deep fried chicken was excellent and got schooled in collard beans n corn bread. Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 3:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Karaoke
I noticed in this article http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3267 that the techno karaoke party is going on again this year on the Thursday. Has anyone heard anything about the lineup? Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) New Blaze LP
probably the first album for Kickin in 10 years... -Original Message- From: "Batory; Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at inet-1 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:06 AM To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> at INET-1 Subject: [313] New Blaze LP I've just been reading on http://www.kickinmusic.com that Slip 'n' Slide is about to release Blaze's "first original studio album in over 10 years". How are their last 3 (4?) albums not original studio albums? Respect JasonB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
Oh... And how could I forget the Clique Diner (at the Shorecrest Hotel, E. Jefferson) for breakfast and lunch. Bring on the chilli fries! Out, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Southern Outpost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 8:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Mama's Kitchen Soul food... Can't remember where it was, but hell the ribs looked amazing, the deep fried chicken was excellent and got schooled in collard beans n corn bread. Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 3:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
Mama's Kitchen Soul food... Can't remember where it was, but hell the ribs looked amazing, the deep fried chicken was excellent and got schooled in collard beans n corn bread. Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 3:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] track id
a groovin´ tribal track in a jeff mills set from 1999 with vocals: "this court is now in session, session, session, ... " anyone? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] More Food in Detroit- one more
Avalon Bakery, on Willis and Cass, make pretty much everything Vegan I think, they have the best cookies and baked goods as well as deli food ever! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] More Food in Detroit
Thinking of more places... veg at least EPH McNally's is a great deli, in Corktown off of Porter St. and Brooklyn-- the owners play electronic music and are into it all though i think, so it might be closed DEMF weekend, interesting decor etc though. International Small World Cafe- it's in the UNICEF building right by the DIA, in the basement, cheap good veg food. Xhedos has some good stuff too, that's in Ferndale tho, bit of a hike. Camillian Cafe is right near Greektown, they throw a lot of house events there/Planet E stuff.. good food. Flat Planet Pizza and Russell St. Deli are two good ones in the Eastern Market. >>> Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/15/02 19:13 PM >>> The last two years, I enjoyed The Sweetwater Cafe and Loco Bar & Grill (454 E Lafayette Blvd - TexMex). I couldn't find an address for Sweetwater, but I'm fairly certain they're still there, and in the vicinity of Hart Plaza. Good wraps! Or, you can always find something if you wander up to Greek Town. The vegetarian options in the food court @ Hart Plaza are severely lacking... Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] New Blaze LP
I've just been reading on http://www.kickinmusic.com that Slip 'n' Slide is about to release Blaze's "first original studio album in over 10 years". How are their last 3 (4?) albums not original studio albums? Respect JasonB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
