[313] eBay records - a little this a little that

2002-05-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=bast
()rdcompleted=0sort=3since=-1include=0page=1rows=25

ID: bast()rd

some stuff that would fall into the elektroclash label, some house - I also
have a Bill Laswell production called Boniche Dub that I haven't put up yet
so if you're interested in that email me off list.

Glad everyone seemed to have a decent time at DEMF this year! Let's hope
there is a next year to look forward to.

MEK


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[313] Aux Men Finale

2002-05-30 Thread Phonopsia
It must be noted that it took massive balls to consider what they were going
to do - let alone pulling it off. I will get a criticism out of the way
before I get to the praise. There was too much time spent on the mic. It
felt to me like they wanted to hype the crowd as much as possible, and the
tempo of many songs may have been too slow to make that happen given that
everyone there had been going at it for at least three days already. I think
this set would have gone over really, really well in an early evening slot
(think: Theorem the first year), but I understand this was a deserved spot
for people that have contributed so much to the Detroit scene. I'm not
complaining that the music was slow to close things out b/c it was really
beautiful and meaningful. I guess what I'm saying is that if the crowd
seemed disinterested, it probably said more about the collective exhaustion
of the audience than the collective enjoyment, and time spent hyping the
crowd on the mics seemed like more of a distraction than an effective way to
motivate people. But you could say this about the main stage on the whole,
not just this show. All-told, that's a pretty minor criticism.

To the set itself: The intro was really nice. About 5 minutes of lush pads
and Detroit moods. Really pretty stuff. More-or-less seemlessly, this segued
into Strings. I hope this comes out as a release somewhere, b/c it was the
hilight of the set for me. Really well executed on the live keys and a great
twist to a classic that many people think should never be touched. Trans
Europe Express and Home Computer were excellent too. From then-on-in,
most of the music was relatively slow with varying prominance of beats. I
didn't know a few of the tracks, but I'd love to hear the originals now.
This set was all about the beauty of funk and electronics, and I must
repeat, it was extremely impressive to hear these techno standards covered
so well with three live keyboards and various guests. Aux Men get huge
credit for pulling this off. I hope this comes to a city near me so I can
see it with a little more energy. I have to guiltily admit I left for 15
minutes in the middle to check out Derek Plaslaiko b/c I needed some tempo
to re-energize me, but I don't think that would be the case had I not been
on my feet, checking about 60 hours of music in the previous four days. It's
also really impressive to see this SOS agenda come to a head so quickly.
Well done!

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[313] FA ebay

2002-05-30 Thread Mxyzptlk
Pantytec, Herbert,  Curtin, Schatrax and some rare Detroit CD comps, like 
Retro Techno, New Dance Sound, Detroit House Fever, etc. (some of which are 
in less than pristine condition - as I bought them - so please read 
descriptions before bidding). No reserves. Thanks.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems[EMAIL 
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ps
no Ian, I haven't sold *everything* yet :-)


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[313] Rolando T. Sines reminder

2002-05-30 Thread Gerald
06-01-02 - Toronto, Canada

Neo Techno Series Vol. #3

featuring: DJ Rolando  Todd Sines (Live)

for complete details... 

http://www.neo-techno.com

Cheers!

G

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Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread g

Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.

At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:

wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?

(I missed those times narrowly)

-Joe


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 Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
 intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
 anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend

was

 that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked

down...

 also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they had
 there, that would be excellent.

 Thanks for any info,
 -Pete

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread g

At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:

also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
for like 3 or 4 minutes.


not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. 
Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of 
them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of 
his favorite records.


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[313] Global Monday's date correction

2002-05-30 Thread Barbara Deyo
Woops...this Monday is June 3rd, not the 6th..., sorry, I must be tired from 
the weekend!  Please come out on Monday June 3rd for
Kevin and Rolando to kick off Global's new weekly party!

Cheers,
Barbara
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Kevin Saunderson and KMS Productions present:
Global Monday's at The Works Detroit

Taking flight weekly this summer...

This week:
June 3rd

Kevin Saunderson
Rolando

The Works Detroit
1846 Michigan Ave. @ Rosa Parks
2 blocks west of the old Tigers Stadium
313.961.1742
18 + w/ valid photo ID
doors @ 10pm
www.theworksdetroit.com
www.theworldofdeep.com


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread Ian
On 5/29/02 10:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:
 also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic techno
 not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
 lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
 for like 3 or 4 minutes.
 
 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'.
 Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of
 them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of
 his favorite records.

Thank you so much for this ID.  I don't care if Rich played it Monday, but
I've heard it at *so* many parties and always wondered what it was.

Audiogalaxy is nice.  (this is usually where someone points out that I
already own it on a CD comp...)
-- 
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[313] sound proofing

2002-05-30 Thread ryan burns



does anyone know where i can get good sound proofing foam, for the best deal 
possible???  anyone have info they can share, i dont know the first thing 
about that stuff,  ive never used it.


thanks
burns


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[313] fabric saturday

2002-05-30 Thread Aril . Brikha

ah yes,

so if there´s anyone who wants to listen to strings for an hour let me know.
sorry that mills can´t be there but if
you guys/girls are nice i´ll maybe do a humana cover? :)

send me a email privately asap if you wan´t to get on the list, i´m leaving
tomorrow so i can´t read my email after 17:00 today.

/aril

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[313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Fred Heutte
It was a pretty jam-packed weekend.  A fairly large west coast
posse showed up this year and while my attempt to get them
into the full range of what was on offer in Detroit wasn't
entirely successful, it was certainly a good time.  Now I'm
back in Portland nursing the leftover of a cold (aggravated to
no small measure by the out of control cigarette smoke in a
lot of the venues and the festival itself -- I thought I would
gag at the Planet E party and at the State Theatre).  But
enough of the woes in my nose !

Started out Thursday night at Foran's.  Mike Taylor had some
equipment problems so he really didn't do a full set, but it
was a good way to get going.  Nice to see longtime 313er Kelli
Kavanaugh again.  I wandered up Woodward to Bleu a little
after 1:30 hoping that TP might be finishing up, and much to
my surprise the place was totally empty.  I mean, totally.
The lights were on, the front door was ajar, there was nobody
inside, nobody at the front desk, at the bar, on the
dancefloor, taking out trash -- nobody... weird!

Friday I hoped to make it out to Belle Isle but never got
there. Just as well because I hear traffic was pretty messed
up.  In any event I got sidetracked at the Camillian Cafe/
Spectacles/Beatdownsounds second annual pre-DEMF Friday
afternoon thing at Harmonie Park.  Again, not very many of us
but I did see Norm Talley and Reggie Dokes and couple others
spinning.  I gotta tellya, Norm moves fast. On Sunday I got a
CD of his set at a booth at the festival, fresh from the
burner!

Dennis Donohue and family hosted what turned out to be the big
313 list gathering out in Southfield Friday night, with a
lot of people from all over -- Europe, west coast, Chicago,
DC. Beer was imbibed, burgers of all varieties consumed and
various people spun various things: Kent gave us the world
premiere of his Cornwarning Megamix ...

Some of us headed over to the UR event at the Baker to Baker
cabaret.  Not the best neighborhood in town, but definitely
not the worst.  It reminded me a lot of growing up as a kid --
we had a neighborhood folk dancing event every Friday night.
Baker to Baker is a neighborhood social hall, you show up, pay
your $5 or whatever, they provide cafeteria tables, a counter
with setups (no alcohol for sale on premises), and of course
sound system and DJs, and it's BYOBBB, bring your own brown
bottle baybee!.

Someone said it was a remarkable cross-cultural experience.
Basically, everyone had a good time, the music was all over
the map and when a good tune came along a lot of people jumped
up and grooved it on the floor, even a line doing the Detroit
hustle at one point.  And as others have mentioned it was
worth it just to see Mad Mike dressed to-the-nines.  He was
looking sharp!

I hooked up with Gerald (Matrix) and his crew, and we stopped
in at the Input party in the gallery at 715 E. Milwaukee.  A
big back room with a pretty thumping four-corner sound system,
and Kevin Yost was playing pleasant but not particularly
interesting jazzy house.  They kept turning up the levels
until it was unpleasant so we bailed.

On arrival downtown, I wanted to pick up a couple doughnuts at
Lafayette Coney Island, but it was just after 4 and the doors
were locked.  As I turned away, suddenly there was this
whirlwind and something grabbed me in a bear hug.  Dude! You
missed it!! Party of the weekend!!!  This was Rob Theakston
who was chowing down after the Ghostly party at Alvin's --
setting a theme for the weekend, which was that I was never
quite in the right place a good part of the time.  

Saturday our west coast crew went out to Submerge for the
first panel with Juan Atkins, Duane Patterson and Mark Taylor.
This was my first look at the new Submerge 3000 and they
really have done a great job rehabbing the old Laundry Workers
local.  The panel was kind of self-conscious at first, with an
MC who just didn't know how to manage the situation or ask
effective leading questions.  Once the QA started things
loosened up and we even got Mad Mike in the mix on the issue
of how to recycle Detroit's solid waste into auto fuel.  If we
ever break the unholy alliance between Detroit and Houston you
can point to the Model 600 as the bellwether of the new age:

http://www.submerge.com/model600/metrp.html

Actually Duane Patterson's design is very reminiscent of the
work Amory Lovins and his hypercar team have been working on
for years:

http://www.hypercar.com/pages/what1.html

We all trundled down to the new S.I.D. store in the basement,
where I scarfed up the Shari Vari remix doublepack and all of
the Electrofunk releases.  At the counter, I saw a stack of
mix CDs by Franki Juncaj, who I mentioned here last week
because of his excellent Groovetech set.  So I say to my
friend, I really liked that Groovetech thing but I don't know
how to pronounce his name.  Guy at the counter says, That's
me!  I'm still not sure if I can pronounce that name, but
Franki rang up my order!

OK, so we're all done with 

RE: [313] sound proofing

2002-05-30 Thread Jernej Marusic
The foam itself won't help. It will absorb high and mid frequencies, but
won't stop the bass. To stop the bass you need mass.
There's a great page about acoustics @ www.acoustics101.com.


Jernej
SoundOfLJ.com

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does anyone know where i can get good sound proofing foam, for the best
deal 
possible???  anyone have info they can share, i dont know the first
thing 
about that stuff,  ive never used it.

thanks
burns


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Reverb


 As for the afterparties, they were completely uneven, with some
 of the most hyped ones (Trackmode, Planet E, Minus) completely
 overpacked, and some that deserved more attention getting little.

Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to
what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last. We got there at
11:30 (we planned to see Clinton, but we got in too late to squeeze into
the mass of people). There was a line around the building for Control and
no line whatsoever for All Access 2. Granted that changed over time ...

I got to see everyone's set (or a piece of it) that night, and it was
definitely the highlight of the weekend for me (ok, that and seeing Alan
on the jumbotron).  Shake was in Jedi mode that night, mixing all kinds
of records seamlessly and to great emotional effect ... Carl was ripping
up the classics and Mike Clark was incredible as well --  he was just on
too early for most to catch.

The Radioboy set was impressive, but Todd Sines' live PA is still
resonating with me. He played a host of new material (some of which will
be released this summer on Planet E) with Toronto vocalist Natacha
Labelle. Her very beautiful and comparatively fragile jazz style played
well with Todd's warmer sounding dug/glitch/techno/whathaveyou. Sort of
like the Herbert+Siciliano project if it had been hatched under the ~scape
umbrella.

Maybe PE could have opened up the top floor like they did last year, but
then I think the crowd would have been too stretched out. It was kind of
weird seeing 10-12 people dance to Recloose and Orin Walters up there last
year.

-d


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Phonopsia
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 OK, so we're all done with Submerge and now at the festival.
 Missed out on Jay Langa and Mad Professor (who i've seen
 several times doing the mixing desk thing for Lee Perry's live
 shows), but we arrived in time to start with part of
 Deepchord's excellent live show.  I also caught some of
 Heather Heart, Steve Rachmad and Mike Dearborn, but Mike Grant
 stole the show on the first day in my opinion.  A really
 gutty, full-fledged set that didn't skimp on musicality and
 kept moving.  I did miss John Tejada who got very high marks
 from many people.

Mad Professor's show was really nice, but not on the same level as seeing
him with Lee Scratch Perry. I only caught a bit of Tejada, and I was
surprised that there wasn't much turntablism involved, but Pepe Bradock into
KDJ is a hard combo to beet. :) Rachmad played a surprisingly hard set, but
I hear he was the star of the Tronic party the next night - many people
described it as psychadelic.

Tristan
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[313] new website up

2002-05-30 Thread Rob Theakston

hells yeah!

http://www.environrecords.com/



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Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I have SO many good memories from that place. I heard that it was closed or 
torn down or something sometime after I left the midwest (1997).


I remember going there in the middle of winter with those big space heater 
cannons... Waiting outside in the rain to get in while Carl Craig was 
playing live inside. Richie's parties, the Poorboys...


What a place...

At 07:32 PM 5/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.

At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:

wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?

(I missed those times narrowly)

-Joe


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:10 PM
Subject: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)




 Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
 intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
 anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend

was

 that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked

down...

 also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they had
 there, that would be excellent.

 Thanks for any info,
 -Pete

 ---
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 Goldman Sachs  Co.
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[313] subsource nu:s 0802

2002-05-30 Thread by way of pietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]


::submix010 [in]anace - fast forward saturday



webmusic-only instant dj set

idm ambient and in between - sometimes more moving, sometimes more noisy



72 min. hifi stream

www.subsource.de/mix/mix010.m3u

72 mb download
ftp.se.scene.org/pub/demos/scene.org/music/groups/subsource/mix/[in]anace-fa
st_foward_saturday.mp3

setlist.txt

www.subsource.de/mix/[in]anace-fast_foward_saturday.txt



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Re: [313] NPR goes techno again

2002-05-30 Thread :P
just for the sake of clarification, is timespace Continuum someone other
than jonah or is this a typo of sorts?

I speak of jonah sharp of spacetime continuum, but I suppose there could be
a timespace continuum too.

-Joe




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 Someone at NPR has been listening to Timespace Continuum and Aphex Twin
 again. Just heard it this morning in the background busic. Nice way to
 start the day.

 MEK


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[313] Rolando interview

2002-05-30 Thread Gerald
The article is from this week's edition of Eye Magazine in Toronto (same
kinda thing as Metro Times).

http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.30.02/thebeat/extended.html

Cheers!

G

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RE: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
as a matter of fact, the whole artifakts album reminds me of the packard
plant.

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Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.

At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:
wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?

(I missed those times narrowly)

-Joe


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Subject: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)



  Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
  intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
  anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend
was
  that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked
down...
  also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they
had
  there, that would be excellent.

  Thanks for any info,
  -Pete

  ---
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  Goldman Sachs  Co.
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RE: [313] Rolando interview

2002-05-30 Thread Langsman, Marc

cool - quite an interesting i/view :)

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The article is from this week's edition of Eye Magazine in 
Toronto (same
kinda thing as Metro Times).

http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.30.02/thebeat/extended.html

Cheers!

G

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RE: [313] NPR goes techno again

2002-05-30 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
yeah, i'd love to know who does their music clips... they have great ones...

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Someone at NPR has been listening to Timespace Continuum and Aphex Twin
again. Just heard it this morning in the background busic. Nice way to
start the day.

MEK


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Re: [313] Rolando interview

2002-05-30 Thread robin pinning

ok just read thatwhen's Los Hermanos 002 out then? :)

cheers

robin...


 The article is from this week's edition of Eye Magazine in Toronto (same
 kinda thing as Metro Times).

 http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.30.02/thebeat/extended.html

 Cheers!

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Re: [313] NPR goes techno again

2002-05-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

h yeah, it's early. Spacetime and music not busic - sorry 'bout that.



   
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just for the sake of clarification, is timespace Continuum someone other
than jonah or is this a typo of sorts?

I speak of jonah sharp of spacetime continuum, but I suppose there could be
a timespace continuum too.

-Joe




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 Someone at NPR has been listening to Timespace Continuum and Aphex Twin
 again. Just heard it this morning in the background busic. Nice way to
 start the day.

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[313] Jeff Mills in Blackbook?

2002-05-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I just saw the cover of Blackbook magazine this morning and at the bottom
it says Jeff Mills - haven't had a chance to look at it yet - anyone else
see this? (although it might be an advance promo copy and not on the stands
as of yet)


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[313] Spotters question

2002-05-30 Thread alex . bond
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My friend has a spare and I'm just trying to suss out how much I should be
paying him.

Tracks are;
Get on up (Theo's late dub)
What do you see (Ricky's groove mix)
What do you see (MM mix)

Or did this come out on Filth/Music is or something? (I'm sure I've got it
but not on KDJ, but my records are at home)

Thanks.

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RE: [313] Spotters question

2002-05-30 Thread Sean Creen

Or did this come out on Filth/Music is or something? (I'm sure I've got it
but not on KDJ, but my records are at home)

Some mixes of What Do You See definitely came out on Filth, but I'm not sure
if they're the same...

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread Jayson B.


not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. Link is 
actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of them.  it's a 
track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of his favorite 
records.



i could've swore this track was done by reload.  or maybe are they the same 
people?


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread robin pinning
 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. Link is
 actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of them.  it's a
 track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of his favorite
 records.


 i could've swore this track was done by reload.  or maybe are they the same
 people?

yep, same people

robin...


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Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread Peter Leidy

 I remember going there in the middle of winter with those big space heater
 cannons... Waiting outside in the rain to get in while Carl Craig was

Yeah- I was there one time in subzero weather, but it was like 80+ degrees
on the dancefloor- I stepped outside to get some air and got an instant
nosebleed from the temperature drop- ouch!

lots of great memories too though :)

p

 playing live inside. Richie's parties, the Poorboys...

 What a place...

 At 07:32 PM 5/29/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Spastik, the first ever Plastikman live show, was there.
 ...get everyone in, lock the gates, GO.
 there's subsequently a track on Artifakts called 'Pakard'.
 
 At 5:44 PM -0400 5/29/02, :P wrote:
 wasnt that the venue for a couple plastikman PAs back in the 90s?
 
 (I missed those times narrowly)
 
 -Joe
 
 
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   Does anyone have any URL's that talk about the packard in Detroit? I am
   intrigued by this building and would like to know more. I couldn't find
   anything re: a google search. One of the rumors i heard over the weekend
 was
   that someone just bought it because they heard it was being knocked
 down...
   also if anyone has any pictures of old flyers from any UR parties they 
  had
   there, that would be excellent.
 
   Thanks for any info,
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Jayson B.



Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to
what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last.



i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand that 
richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm 
otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of 
thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard 
how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order.  Getting to 
the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm 
not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf 
weekend ever again.  and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find 
out that it was more amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can 
justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.


thank god for labor day weekend.

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[313] Record store opinion

2002-05-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Wally's Groove World? How are they for mail order over the web? Any US
people use them?

thanks for your time
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand 
that richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to 
confirm otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where 
hundreds of thousands of people will be in town and practically all 
of them have heard how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE 
might in order.  Getting to the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still 
huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm not even going to try to bother 
going to another richie event on demf weekend ever again.  and i'm 
sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find out that it was more 
amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can justify 
standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.


I've been unsubbed of 313 during the DEMF so if i am sorry if i do 
dome double posting here.


I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work 
of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30 
he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually 
could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop 
a bad track or did a bad mix, respect!




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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread yussel
its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if
anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw
that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it.

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Jayson B. wrote:


 Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to
 what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last.


 i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand that
 richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm
 otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of
 thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard
 how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order.  Getting to
 the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm
 not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf
 weekend ever again.  and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find
 out that it was more amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can
 justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.

 thank god for labor day weekend.

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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Jayson B.




its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if
anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw
that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it.




completely understandable.  then do what he's done with other parties in the 
past:  presales only, no tickets at the door.



maybe i'm just cranky i didn't get in ;-)




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[313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread P Jenvey
I know that theres at leat 1 photo of Packard somewhere on
www.detroityes.com, but you'll have to find it .  Heres a couple more for ya
that I foun on another detroit buildings website...


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Nocturnals
Hi all -

I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone 
get a chance to see him

_Kered_

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[313] Drexciya interview mp3

2002-05-30 Thread Ian Malbon
The interview that aired on WDET-FM over a week ago is available for those
who missed it.

It's a lo-fi mp3 edit of just the conversation that Liz Copeland had with
Drexciya.  It runs just over 27 minutes and the file size is about 11.2 meg.

http://www.bryanbickel.com/drex_crop.mp3

I agree with what Phred said about radio in Detroit.  It's a damn shame that
commercial stations that helped to sponsor the DEMF never play the type of
music heard at the festival.  Thank goodness we still have a public radio
outlet like WDET, and people like Liz that are willing to be adventurous.

Enjoy.
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Re: [313] good life

2002-05-30 Thread MadR
It's the Thomas Schumacher remix and featered on
Electric Avenue (LP)

It's great track indeed 
Last saterday Tom Middleton played it and got me down
big time.

MadR
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 it was a bit nu jazz / broken beat stayla...
 
 does anyone know any remix that might sound like
 that?
 
 p.s. the highlight of the track is when it stops...
 and then a really great piano sounds boom out and
 the voice starts singing : good life goodlife... :-)
 
 

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Re: [313] Spotters question

2002-05-30 Thread David Bate
Rick Wilhite - What do you see - Soul Edge Records - (KDJ 008 is cut into the
groove).


Filth Music released the exact same mixes as the original KDJ/SoulEdge.


Also , while I was at Record Time this weekend, they had another label that
just released it.  It was Apricot Records , from what I remember.  Exact same
mixes as the  KDJ/SoulEdge  Filth. They had plenty of this new release in
stock.


Here's the mixes:

Get on up (Theo's late dub)
What do you see (Ricky's groove mix)
What do you see (MM mix)

If you don't have a copy, I'd buy any of the version on sight.

Enjoy


Dave

Sean Creen wrote:

 Or did this come out on Filth/Music is or something? (I'm sure I've got it
 but not on KDJ, but my records are at home)

 Some mixes of What Do You See definitely came out on Filth, but I'm not sure
 if they're the same...

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[313] Infinit 12?

2002-05-30 Thread james boylan


Just saw this listed under the latest releases section on www.juno.co.uk:

Infiniti v Keith Mackenzie - Shadow (Part 1) on Funk Wax

I can't hear the MP3 on my computer. Just wondering if this is
Juan Atkins' Infiniti project.Anyone?

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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Kent williams
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

 I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work
 of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30
 he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually
 could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop
 a bad track or did a bad mix, respect!

I hit the wall hard about 3:30 -- sat down on a chair, and did the
chair-head-nod dance until we left about 4:30 ... I got into this weird
beyond-tired state where I was on the cusp of falling asleep without falling
asleep, and Ron just piled on the wicked tracks.  I wish he'd come
play me to sleep every night!

Oh, and thanks for the beer KJ!


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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

2002-05-30 Thread scotto
I d/l the song and it was not this track.

I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
clapped.

it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard to
describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.

scotto
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 At 4:41 PM -0400 5/29/02, scotto wrote:
 also around 11 am richie played this track that I would call epic
techno
 not something you would dance to but very interesting and uplifting it
 lasted maybe 15 minutes and when he was done the whole place was clapping
 for like 3 or 4 minutes.

 not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'.
 Link is actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of
 them.  it's a track from 1992, just about impossible to find.  one of
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[313] should I continue...

2002-05-30 Thread :P
I have this track that I layed down a melody for, but I cant tell if its
deranged or what.  I lose perspective on music because I have it and I am of
course biased in one way or the other, depending on the track.

http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux/should_I.mp3

its 3.x megs, and very very early.  I will probably layer something else in
there, quiet, around 8-9khz and replace the drums with something even more
delicate and minimal.

Please listen and provide any kind of feedback you want.

(bad feedback is the most useful)

http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux/should_I.mp3



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[313] DEMF Letter

2002-05-30 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
I wrote a letter to the city of Detroit about what I think should 
happen between DEMF and their contract w. PCM and the city.  Here it is,
for some reason it wouldn't let me attach it, so sorry it isn't
aesthetically pleasing. I know it's not perfect it but whatevah... I
hope all of you consider doing the same, the more 
voices, the more likely things are to change.  

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] detroit cultural affairs

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - culture and economic affairs.

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To Whom It May Concern,

 

Many living in and around the Detroit, as well as all over
the world, feel that DEMF should continue on and progress.  The three
year contract between the city of Detroit and Pop Culture Media is now
at its end.  DEMF should be rejuvenated, its contract renewed, but with
a different source for promotion behind the festival than Pop Culture
Media for a multitude of reasons.  

Pop Culture Media has done a tolerable job maintaining the
festival, but DEMF unquestionably is not at its best.  The first year of
DEMF was the most remarkable year, with an integral cultural selection
of musicians, as well as audience.  The second, just as appealing; yet,
two weeks prior, the creative director, Carl Craig, was fired from his
position.  The people of Detroit area spoke out against this and
supported Carl Craig, and the city of Detroit rewarded him for his
efforts.  The firing came as a stifle for the festival and festival
goers, as many realized that DEMF would be in for some turbulence.  It
put a damper on many artists and attendants' time spent at the festival.
 The third year, with its repetitive adds, poor sound, lack of sponsors
and diversity came as no surprise to many of those who attended all
three years of the festival; consequently, myself and others can only
rely on an open ear and faith that the city of Detroit will listen to
what many are speaking.  The DEMF is in desperate need of a
transformation.  

Furthermore, a recent article in the publication: Metro
Times, reads a justifiable display of some major issues about DEMF that
should not have occurred (http://metrotimes.com/ May 22-28, 2002). 
While DEMF has potential to thrive, it is being subdued by so much
political game and power-hungry people.  If Carl Craig can be fired from
his position for not getting contracts signed by artists on time, as
Carol Marvin stated, next Pop Culture Media should be fired from their
position as the business promoters of DEMF for a multitude of reasons:

1)  Their bad reputation for firing Carl Craig has caused many
professionaltalented Detroit artists to deny working and playing
at the festival- as a   result stifling a flow of new performers and
fresh experiences to captivate the audience.

2)  PCM has been caught red handed embezzling money, and making none
to   extremely overdue payments to artists and workers hired out in
benefit of the festival.  

3)  Previous musicians and DEMF workers paid for a multitude of
things, ranging  from hotel rooms to website bills, in which
they should not have paid for, this has given Detroit and
DEMF a poor reputation.  

4)  This year the festival failed in establishing the same sponsors,
thus creating an   unsatisfactory atmosphere.  For example
advertisements were repeated onmassive screens between each set,
lasting up to 30 minutes, instead ofvisuals pertaining to art and
the education of Detroit electronic music and   electronic music
artists.

5)  Many of the workers for DEMF have expressed the president of
PCM- CarolMarvin, very short-tempered and difficult to work
with.

 

Consequently, the list above is enough to provide thought
and thorough analysis as to who should rightfully fulfill the future of
DEMF's promotional occupancy.  There are many other candidates who would
do more than an equal job as Pop Culture Media, these include a
multitude of artists, labels and promoters who could form a committee,
in particular Carl Craig and his label Planet E, who has already
demonstrated approval and capability of running the festival.  The DEMF
has brought together a strong community, a substantial peaceful
gathering, a culture that belongs to Detroit.  It has brought an amazing
musical experience right to Detroit, where the music is made.  I ask you
kindly to please look carefully over the past three years and decide
justly what is right for the DEMF.  

 

Sincerely,

Catherine Eberhardt

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[313] OT - location in the Metro area?

2002-05-30 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
http://home.earthlink.net/~magicmk/floormat.jpg

Wings fans will like this one.  Had to do a little work, but using the
reflection of a sign in the window that says Doug's Auto Parts, I located
it with Lycos in Royal Oak... closest sports shop is a block over, a place
called Strictly Varsity (note the MSU logo in the window).  Is that where
this picture was taken?  A friend sent me the photo and would like to know.
Reply off-list if you'd like, thanks. :)

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[313] Control ID

2002-05-30 Thread scotto
did anyone catch the first acid house track rich played of his mini acid
set? curious as to who it was.
I kept saying the vocal in my head so I would not for get but I did. so I
have so vocal id but it had a sweet 303 line in it.



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[313] marmoset-demf

2002-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

did anyone see dave walker this year? ian? anyone?

i didn't see him and i usually do and i'll be sad to find out he wasn't there
.i at least knew ian was there by his post *waves from ann arbor*


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[313] DEMF03 (not too long)

2002-05-30 Thread John Sokolowski

Well, here are my thoughts on this year's DEMF…

It is terribly obvious that the festival has been loosing its luster over 
the last 2 years. In previous year's I really had to make tough decisions 
about whom I wanted to see, while this year I would be hard pressed to fit 
everyone I really wanted to see on a single stage in a single day. I've been 
trying not to compare this year to 2000, since that was such a 'point in 
time' moment and feeling that will never happen again.


Nevertheless, there was still great music to be heard this year, and that is 
the reason I went. Yes, you had to hear about all the chemicals the ravers 
digested whenever you went to the bathroom, yes, the commercials between the 
performances were the pits, and blah, blah, blah.


But, this post is about the dope beats we heard and that is it…

My crew and myself arrived in Detroit late Friday night. First stop, 
Mexicantown. We filled our stomachs to the brim with pollo ranchero, Corona, 
and Tequila. I live in one of Chicago's largest Hispanic neighborhoods and 
have been to Texas numerous times and the eats I've had there simply don't 
compare to what you can get in Detroit's Mexicantown (particularly Los 
Galanes).


Afterwards, we stopped at that nice little liquor store on Fort, near the 
Post Office, got our bottle, and headed to the UR cabaret. As soon as we 
entered, the first track I heard was the Birth of 3000. Nice. The music that 
night was somewhere between Ass-n-Titties, Planet Rock, and Sonic Destroyer 
at +8, if you can picture that. It was nice to hang out with friends new and 
old who we don't get to see very often.  Yes, Mad Mike was all dressed up 
and looking sharp. Later in the evening he was going from table to table 
inviting people to their Saturday night party personally, class act. I even 
heard he was dancing later in the evening!!


Got up early Saturday and caught bits and pieces of Sundiata, Jay Langda, 
and Electric Indigo. All of which were sounding good. Caught most of Mad 
Professor, which really didn't do it for me. I gave it my best, but I 
couldn't get into it.  My personal highlight on Saturday at the festival was 
Deep Chord, which most here have talked about.


After dinner we came back to see Steve Rachmand, who I thoroughly enjoyed. 
Up until then, it was the best DJing I heard all weekend. Caught a bit of 
Marco Carola, which was OK, just a bit too banging without end for my 
tastes. Caught all of Juan's set, who as always played great tracks. If 
anyone can ID the spacey techno track he played about 40mins into his set, 
it would be much appreciated. His mixing was not as good as I know it can 
be, but I think seeing him close out the first night on the main stage, in 
front of the RenCen is more about paying respect to THE man.


The UR party on Saturday was phenomenal, it was the highlight of the weekend 
for me. Buzz Goree was fabulous and Rolando was even more fabulous. The 
turnout was much larger than the first For Those Who Know party and a lot 
more people we getting down this year, me thinks. I only wish Sub Night had 
played live, as indicated on the flyer. I think his live set in-between Buzz 
and Rolando would have been the icing on the cake. Afterwards, it was Coney 
Dogs at 5am.


I was hoping to see Art Payne and Stewart Walker on Sunday, but 4 straight 
hours for dancing at the UR party wiped me out. Did anyone catch Art Payne? 
Reviews?


We did arrive in time to see Chaos, Bone, and Dave Clarke in the underground 
stage.  Chaos played a good set with Gerald Mitchell on keyboards. It was 
mostly Chaos MCing over UR beats. Good stuff.


Bone was awesome. I guess the airlines had lost his records and he was 
playing with stuff picked up from Recordtime and SID. You would have never 
known. During the last 30mins of his set, Bone proclaimed that the 
underground stage was now 'Cabaret Bone' and played some old, old school 
stuff. I got good looks at the record jackets he was pulling from. If I ever 
see any of them, I'll report back ;)


Next up was Dave Clarke, who absolutely rocked it. I've never seen the 
underground stage go as berserk as it did that night. He was playing a lot 
of hard stuff, but what he can do with a mixer is mind-blowing. He is a bad 
motha. At one point, out of nowhere, the crowd started to chat, 
Detroit…Detroit…Detroit… Then Clarke dropped beats in-between the chant so 
you heard, Detroit, boom-boom, Detroit, boom-boom. He also played Techno 
City, complete class.


We literally had to 'climb' out of the underground stage to catch the end of 
George Clinton. I've seen him a few times and what I saw didn't seem any 
different than times before. It looked like most people had left to go to 
whatever party by then.


Got to CPOP/the Majestic in time to see KDJ live, which as many people here 
have said was a sexy set to put it lightly. I was kinda bummed we missed 
Larry Heard, I don't know why they would put him on so early! :( Later, one 
of 

Re: [313] Packard Building (OT, kind of)

2002-05-30 Thread Mark S. Krüx
I have a 750 KB set of photos I pulled off various sites if anyone wants to
see 'em mail me privately...

Lates,

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 I know that theres at leat 1 photo of Packard somewhere on
 www.detroityes.com, but you'll have to find it .  Heres a couple more for
ya
 that I foun on another detroit buildings website...


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-05-30 Thread Mark S. Krüx
I heard the same thing,  and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix
that is the proverbial sh*t.

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 Hi all -

 I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone
 get a chance to see him

 _Kered_

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