[313] Gescom MiniDisc
A minidisc with 88 tracks. When you play it, you put the MiniDisc player in random mode and allowed it to remix the 88 tracks. Always random, always different... Has anyone tried this?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] joe clauswell`s
hi, do any of u know his contacts- its foa friend y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Great web listenin'
Not techno, but very much the sound of Detroit... I stumbled across this wicked recent live set by Tribe Records jazz man Phil Ranelin online yesterday, recorded on WDET shortly before the reissues of Ranelin's albums Vibes From The Tribe and The Time Is Now by Hefty Records: http://www.heftyrecords.com/audio/ranelin_WDET.ram The Ranelin remix album on Hefty is well worth checking too - mixes by Kirk Degiorgio, Morgan Geist, Jan Jelinek, Telefon Tel Aviv, Prefuse 73 etc. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Axis 009/ Jeff Mills
it's on vinyl as well i wasn't really impressed with it better get the 'freeky deeky' ep ! by tejada duvante hot stuff! At 12-6-2002 -0500 18:43, you wrote: Record Time has piles of them. jeff At 01:51 PM 6/12/2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: Does anyone know where I can pick this up? I haven't seen it in any nyc shops.. ARTIST: MILLSART TITLE: ACTUAL (AXIS 009 C/D) LABEL: AXIS FORMAT: CD CAT NO: AX-009 C/D RELEASE DATE: 3 JUNE 2002 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. . :: http://nomorewords.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Gescom MiniDisc
- Original Message - From: Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: [313] Gescom MiniDisc A minidisc with 88 tracks. When you play it, you put the MiniDisc player in random mode and allowed it to remix the 88 tracks. Always random, always different... Has anyone tried this?? Yeah. I have it. It's a helluva ballsy move, no? Frankly, I don't find that the randomization of it is anything more than random. It's got some nice moments, but I'd prefer to hear them developed more. I guess I've always preferred Autechre's songs to their experiments, since they're such good songwriters. For a somewhat similar idea using bits (bytes) to create a coherent whole, I'd recommend the Black Dog's first solo effort Music For Adverts and Short Films. 27 tracks, and a really brilliant album in the proper sense. Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Never on Sunday
i recently found the same record. (in australia of all places, a country not usually known for it's high quality obscure detroit gems sitting around in second hand stores)--it's deep deep piano house, quite melodic and maybe a little 'sweet and pretty' sounding for some. there's one stand out track, an outside cut. i wonder how the other 298 owners like it. james www.jbucknell.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:57:38 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Never on Sunday Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Picked up a Never On Sunday record at lunch today that I'd never seen before. It's on 430 west and says on the sheet that there's only 300 copies, and it's on blue vinyl. There was a massive queue for the listening post, so I just bought it - £15 Is it any good? Have I been ripped-off? I thought I had all their records... Any info appreciated, no record deck at work and I'm bored stiff.. - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blaze
Blaze - Spiritually Speaking on Slip 'n' Slide. http://www.kickinmusic.com/news.shtml Apparantly their first original album in over ten years (?). They have really taken things back to the roots of house with this album anyway, except for the track that the website has a sample of - my least favourite track - don't judge what's coming by this track! I would say the majority of tracks were produced with studio musicians. Its hot. Respect JasonB -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] blaze sorry - what was that about a new blaze album? (name, label, thanx) p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Never on Sunday
talkin about them, dont u guys agree with me that those other 430w formations as never on sunday or random noise generator release more interesting music than the regular Octave One formation?? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blaze
Apparently it's already found its way onto the net. The bits I've heard are really good. There's some tracks with more of a traditional jazz structure than I've heard from Blaze before, or maybe just more live musicians. Some of it is a little too cookie-cutter Blaze deepness with lamentations of the current state of the dance scene that get tiring after awhile IMO, like the track thats getting played here, Do You Remember House. Don't get me wrong its fantastic, I was just hoping for more. Here's something from Slip 'n' Slide about the bootlegging: Bastard Bootleggers...MAY THEIR DAUGHTERS GROW FACIAL HAIR.! Hiya Peeps and Peepettes, Sad news has come forward indeed... Blaze's new Album Spirituall Speaking is being raped as we speak... I am upset to say the least, but being that a I am a cynic with an optimistic outlook, I see the glass as half full...so Bootleggers, a curse upon your folicles.. Please note all you lovely guardian of right, that SLIP N SLIDE will not be moved...We will still release Blaze come Sept 9..2002...come what may... So all you vanguards of right and justice, please tell the whole world..that we will not be force by Bootleggers to react and release such a gem as Spiritually Speaking until it has matured..(Please note ref...to Grolsch Its not ready yet...). Thanks for all your support... The ph factor. Peter Harrismanaging Director. At 08:43 AM 6/14/2002 +0800, you wrote: Blaze - Spiritually Speaking on Slip 'n' Slide. http://www.kickinmusic.com/news.shtml Apparantly their first original album in over ten years (?). They have really taken things back to the roots of house with this album anyway, except for the track that the website has a sample of - my least favourite track - don't judge what's coming by this track! I would say the majority of tracks were produced with studio musicians. Its hot. Respect JasonB -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] blaze sorry - what was that about a new blaze album? (name, label, thanx) p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _,.., /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ jamie /| /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/,-' hurlbut / / /_/_/_/_/_/_/,-'/ / /_/_/_/_/_/_,:../ / |,' hurlbotics.com |/ ' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [313] Gescom MiniDisc
have it too... I kind of rushed to buy it when I got my Minidisc ! i tried listening at random of course, and I must say it is a weird experience, as with pretty much all Autechre music, I'd say it is immersive, I tend to daydream a lot when listening to that stuff... The difference here, with that randomness factor, is that the daydreams are always different, no predictability possible ; I'd say it is worth it at least to try it for a couple of hours :-) Gwendal A minidisc with 88 tracks. When you play it, you put the MiniDisc player in random mode and allowed it to remix the 88 tracks. Always random, always different... Has anyone tried this?? Yeah. I have it. It's a helluva ballsy move, no? Frankly, I don't find that the randomization of it is anything more than random. It's got some nice moments, but I'd prefer to hear them developed more. I guess I've always preferred Autechre's songs to their experiments, since they're such good songwriters. For a somewhat similar idea using bits (bytes) to create a coherent whole, I'd recommend the Black Dog's first solo effort Music For Adverts and Short Films. 27 tracks, and a really brilliant album in the proper sense. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Laurent Garnier DVD {was X-Mix DVD}
Only problem is these DVD's are 'region 2' and will not play in US DVD players that are 'region 1' //unless of course you have a multicode DVD player ;) \\ on top of that zone 1 / zone 2 problem, another one is that even if you have a multi-zone player, you may get BW image because of the film being encoded in Pal or Secam while the US are NSTC... just my experience of playing US imports on my french DVD player. Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Eddie Flashin Fowlkes
Im backing up my self on some producers that i forget long time ago.. so i could find any information about Eddie Fowlkes usefull. His other works, and is there any aka`s that his known for. thanx berislav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Wanted...
Ive been trying to track down a copy of this EP for years...would anyone be able to point me in the direction of somewhere that might have a copy ?? DJ Marquis Present and Future EP Nu Flava cheers, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: [313] X-Mix DVD
Got an email response from my mate who got the DVD at the launch - his rather underwhelming response was: Its OK - not sure if I would but it though However, he also admitted that he hasnt even listened to the new track that Garnier did with Mike Banks!! I think I will have to take a trip down to London and confiscate these items since he seems so dissinterested ;-) Cheers BT The last time I spoke to him he hadnt watched it - something about problems with his PC - I will check and report back. Cheers BT one of my mates went along and since he was one of the first 5 in he got a promo copy) -I dont know when the full release is though. what does your mate think of the DVD? is it worth getting? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Eddie Flashin Fowlkes
Hi Berislav, I only know of one aka for Eddie Fowlkes: Detroit Soul Project. The track I know is : Detroit Is A Ghetto out on Pan records, UK, 1998, although, I'm told there were others. Of course, EF did 'Sex In Zero Gravity' with the Martian, apparently. To me it sounds nothing like his style. Best regards, Ken -Original Message- From: Berislav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:04 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Eddie Flashin Fowlkes Im backing up my self on some producers that i forget long time ago.. so i could find any information about Eddie Fowlkes usefull. His other works, and is there any aka`s that his known for. thanx berislav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] (OT) Party Time in Hockeytown!!
The Red Wings brought the Cup back home, I guess it's gonna be partytime for the hockey fans this weekend! ;) Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Basic Channel
I'm interviewing Basic Channel on Monday (!), so does anyone have any suggestions for pertinent questions? Of course I have a few in mind already, but I'd welcome the list's thoughts all the same. I'll also be talking to Scion, too, so the same applies. TOM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] joe clauswell`s
You can contact Joe through Spiritual Life music in New York : US 212 226 1067 - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Yair Etziony Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] joe clauswell`s hi, do any of u know his contacts- its foa friend y - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Concert last night: ADULT.
Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the hoopla outside in downstairs in the bar. Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this is slightly off-topic. Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the bill. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Finally A Conference About the Business...
This is a nice one! And in Vegas too! :-) One thing I wish they would have is an 'in' towards the movie industry where movies houses can license music from indie electronic/dance labels. Nonetheless, its looks like a great conference. g. SOS wrote: Finally a Conference about the Music Business and the little people like US can afford to go... Check out www.dancetechconference.com site about a cool conference Their E-Mail Address:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SOS will be there... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Basic Channel
I'm interviewing Basic Channel on Monday (!), so does \ anyone have any suggestions for pertinent questions? Fun! Just off the top of my head, I've always wondered how did they decide that with the final basic channel record it was time to retire the label after Phylps Trak II (BC-09), that it had run it's logical course as basic channel ? What factors contributed to their decision ? How did doing Cyrus: Enforcement (001) with the Mills mix unfold? Did they have the track in mind, and were looking for a remixer? Were others considered? Or did Mills help define the sound of 001 early on with them? Was he in the studio with them at any time or was it all remotely done swapping DATs? were there other mixes that were done but never released? Did their vision for the label change course during it's run? Or it was never reeally all that pre-meditated, it just happened organically? Do they look back and have a favorite release ? Do they still own property in Detroit? (did they ever? or was that a rumour) I know that's a lot but, just some of the things I've always wondered about. Basic Channel is such a great little mirocosim of everything I love about the Belin/Detroit sound trade. Peace, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Basic Channel
Now that the most stressful period of the working day is over, I'll add some too... I'd add a question about whether or not they've ever been approached to do film soundtrack work, and, if not, if their approach to their music has had a visual aspect to it; to me, each BC release evokes strong visual images, but the sorts of films where that sound would be an appropriate accompaniment probably haven't been made yet. Also, I'd ask whether it was their intention to spawn such a large range of 'copycats' and essentially introduce a new sound into techno and house - even fairly commercial house - which would permeate right to the core, or if the impact of the BC releases was greater than they ever expected it to be. Was the drive to develop the BC sound borne of a frustration with sounds being used in techno at the time, or was it an idea that came from another direction? How long did it take to develop, from the first concept of a truly three-dimensional, heat-haze shimmering, sound, to the first successful execution? And finally, which would they say was the first track on which a proto-Basic Channel sound was deployed? Ploy? Infinition? Domina? Cheers, Brendan -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2002 17:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet Subject: RE: [313] Basic Channel I'm interviewing Basic Channel on Monday (!), so does \ anyone have any suggestions for pertinent questions? Fun! Just off the top of my head, I've always wondered how did they decide that with the final basic channel record it was time to retire the label after Phylps Trak II (BC-09), that it had run it's logical course as basic channel ? What factors contributed to their decision ? How did doing Cyrus: Enforcement (001) with the Mills mix unfold? Did they have the track in mind, and were looking for a remixer? Were others considered? Or did Mills help define the sound of 001 early on with them? Was he in the studio with them at any time or was it all remotely done swapping DATs? were there other mixes that were done but never released? Did their vision for the label change course during it's run? Or it was never reeally all that pre-meditated, it just happened organically? Do they look back and have a favorite release ? Do they still own property in Detroit? (did they ever? or was that a rumour) I know that's a lot but, just some of the things I've always wondered about. Basic Channel is such a great little mirocosim of everything I love about the Belin/Detroit sound trade. Peace, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Basic Channel
ask whens a good day to play in michigan and we'll coordinate the BBQ with said date. :)) -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [313] Basic Channel Now that the most stressful period of the working day is over, I'll add some too... I'd add a question about whether or not they've ever been approached to do film soundtrack work, and, if not, if their approach to their music has had a visual aspect to it; to me, each BC release evokes strong visual images, but the sorts of films where that sound would be an appropriate accompaniment probably haven't been made yet. Also, I'd ask whether it was their intention to spawn such a large range of 'copycats' and essentially introduce a new sound into techno and house - even fairly commercial house - which would permeate right to the core, or if the impact of the BC releases was greater than they ever expected it to be. Was the drive to develop the BC sound borne of a frustration with sounds being used in techno at the time, or was it an idea that came from another direction? How long did it take to develop, from the first concept of a truly three-dimensional, heat-haze shimmering, sound, to the first successful execution? And finally, which would they say was the first track on which a proto-Basic Channel sound was deployed? Ploy? Infinition? Domina? Cheers, Brendan -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2002 17:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org [The Music Institute] (E-mail) Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet Subject: RE: [313] Basic Channel I'm interviewing Basic Channel on Monday (!), so does \ anyone have any suggestions for pertinent questions? Fun! Just off the top of my head, I've always wondered how did they decide that with the final basic channel record it was time to retire the label after Phylps Trak II (BC-09), that it had run it's logical course as basic channel ? What factors contributed to their decision ? How did doing Cyrus: Enforcement (001) with the Mills mix unfold? Did they have the track in mind, and were looking for a remixer? Were others considered? Or did Mills help define the sound of 001 early on with them? Was he in the studio with them at any time or was it all remotely done swapping DATs? were there other mixes that were done but never released? Did their vision for the label change course during it's run? Or it was never reeally all that pre-meditated, it just happened organically? Do they look back and have a favorite release ? Do they still own property in Detroit? (did they ever? or was that a rumour) I know that's a lot but, just some of the things I've always wondered about. Basic Channel is such a great little mirocosim of everything I love about the Belin/Detroit sound trade. Peace, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Finally A Conference About the Business...
this does sound interesting,,, but I'm concerned about WHO is on the panels,, and who are the dj's giving out info. It's strange that they don't list one panel member or give any names??? I think i'll e-mail them for this info before I make any decisions. -Original Message- From: SOS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Finally A Conference About the Business... Finally a Conference about the Music Business and the little people like US can afford to go... Check out www.dancetechconference.com site about a cool conference Their E-Mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOS will be there... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
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[313] tonight
Sean Deason and Matrix Recordings present: Matrix Friday's @ The Blue Room Lounge, Pontiac This Friday June 14th, 9pm2am World reknown DJ/producer Sean Deason + special guest DJ T. Linder (Detroit) The Blue Room Lounge 51 North Saginaw Street (at Huron Street, above Bo's Brewery) Downtown Pontiac $5 at door. ph: 248.338.6200 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Concert last night: ADULT.
I was there. The only thing that stood out to me, is before ADULT. played hand to phone Nicola said something like this is an old one from awhile back, a few of you might know this one Are they so popular now that all their fans are THAT new?? Dunno just thought that was weird. Their set was great though. Magas also rocked. Great schizophrenic dancing, that man. : ) Both of them could have played much longer, imho. I am definetly happy I came out, despite rumors that the redwings chaos would get in my way. :) -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/14/02 11:57 Subject: [313] Concert last night: ADULT. AM Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the hoopla outside in downstairs in the bar. Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this is slightly off-topic. Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the bill. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Concert last night: ADULT.
subtle irony, i suspect [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I was there. The only thing that stood out to me, is before ADULT. played hand to phone Nicola said something like this is an old one from awhile back, a few of you might know this one Are they so popular now that all their fans are THAT new?? Dunno just thought that was weird. Their set was great though. Magas also rocked. Great schizophrenic dancing, that man. : ) Both of them could have played much longer, imho. I am definetly happy I came out, despite rumors that the redwings chaos would get in my way. :) -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/14/02 11:57 Subject: [313] Concert last night: ADULT. AM Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the hoopla outside in downstairs in the bar. Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this is slightly off-topic. Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the bill. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Basic Channel
Ask about the re-release of all the wonderful Wackies material with which they're currently heavily involved, how BC continues to tie in with Rhythm Sound. Who else from the Jamaican pantheon of reggae singers players might they collaborate with in the future? Any chance of more remixes of Carl Craig material (a la Climax, Quadrant)? To what extent do they feel the superb laptop mac stylings of Scion (live, at any rate) match (or uneasily rub up against) the obsessive analog ethos of BC? Does the upcoming Scion/BC Tresor set represent a techno. 'soundclash' in that respect? On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet wrote: I'm interviewing Basic Channel on Monday (!), so does anyone have any suggestions for pertinent questions? Of course I have a few in mind already, but I'd welcome the list's thoughts all the same. I'll also be talking to Scion, too, so the same applies. TOM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] hardwax 01
so who produced it? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Concert last night: ADULT.
Perhaps they should've played Silent Property to make the point a bit stronger? Anyways, I think a lot of their attitude stems from disgust about the whole electroclash hype. Here's the article about it: http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_06.13.02/thebeat/adult.html I guess I can understand that they're afraid of a backlash against all artists painted with the electroclash marketing brush (though electroclash sucks just doesn't have a good ring to it), and that a number of artists are jumping on the bandwagon before they've developed their own sound (or can even do a live show), but I think the people who were pushing this sound before it became popular will continue to have a following even after everything plays out. Looking forward to hearing them play in TO tonight... g On Friday, June 14, 2002, at 03:56 PM, armin holzgethan wrote: subtle irony, i suspect [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I was there. The only thing that stood out to me, is before ADULT. played hand to phone Nicola said something like this is an old one from awhile back, a few of you might know this one Are they so popular now that all their fans are THAT new?? Dunno just thought that was weird. Their set was great though. Magas also rocked. Great schizophrenic dancing, that man. : ) Both of them could have played much longer, imho. I am definetly happy I came out, despite rumors that the redwings chaos would get in my way. :) -j [EMAIL PROTECTED] .edu To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/14/02 11:57 Subject: [313] Concert last night: ADULT. AM Last night, in Saint Andrew's in Detroit, Adult. performed while the Redwings took the Cup. The audience was pretty into it, despite all the hoopla outside in downstairs in the bar. Was anyone else there? I am curious to hear your impressions. Sorry if this is slightly off-topic. Magas played before Adult. Before Magas, this tall skinny guy in a blazer spun records. He looked kind of like the late Ian Curtis. I am also curious if anyone knows who he is. He played some good stuff, but he wasn't on the bill. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FW: Who is on the panel list? DTC
this is what they forwarded to me. -Original Message- From: Dance Tech Conference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:38 PM To: Ja'Maul Redmond Subject: Re: Who is on the panel list? Thanks for responding. Keynote speaker Juan Atkins Here are some of the panelist Ron trent Bo Williams Glen Underground Eddie Fowlkes Ron Carrol Teknostop Gene Ferris Mike Dearborn DTC 2002 LasVegas At 01:09 PM 6/14/02 -0400, you wrote: I would like a list of all the panel members and performers/d.j.'s before I make a decision. Can you help me with that? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1130 East Third Street, Suite 200 Charlotte, North Carolina 28204 (704) 343-9900 (704) 343-4935 ext.202(direct) (704) 343- (fax) jamaul.redmond mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@perkinswill.com http://www.perkinswill.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved
Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves... If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces... Peace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved
check with www.erikarecords.com for a more accurate price but I got vinyl plastic sleeves from them @ 0.50 each + freight and they will also ship them to your specified pressing plant for packing upon request. g. SOS wrote: Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves... If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces... Peace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved
Hey try http://www.bagsunlimited.com Great organization...better to order a catalog than to order from their terribly designed site though;-) Cheers, m* - Original Message - From: SOS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves... If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces... Peace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Plastic Jacket Sleeved
I've bought the clear plastic sleeves that fit around the outside of a cardboard sleeve from Dusty Groove in Chicago - $10 for 100 of them http://www.dustygroove.com -p On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, SOS wrote: Does anyone have a good lead/price on plastic jacket sleeves... If you can give a general price if you have one for 500 - 1000 pieces... Peace - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] hardwax 01
Samuel Hobbs wrote on Fri, 14 Jun 2002 about following: so who produced it? isn't missing channel robert hood? i'm not 100% sure on this one. [HX 001 Missing Channel - Onslaught] sakke -- Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is. - Master Yoda, Star Wars Episode II - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] hardwax 01
it´s hood alright. at least missing channel records sounds like robert hood. samu eilola. isn't missing channel robert hood? i'm not 100% sure on this one. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Yello - Breaks, Beats Loops
Anyone have this or heard of this that can give me some info? Reply off list please. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Yello - Nevermind I found what I was looking for
Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 06/14/02 04:14 PMSubject: [313] Yello - Breaks, Beats Loops Anyone have this or heard of this that can give me some info? Reply off list please. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] basic channel
I'm going to expose myself as uncouth and dorky here, but, my Basic Channel question would be: Why did the Basic Channel CD suck so? (Okay, that's melodramatic. Please, no thread about how the CD ruled. Fine. Different strokes. I respect you. Respect me...) What I really mean is: The vinyl was so cool. Up. With it. Smart, yet fun. Each record built upon the previous record, and they all hung together fairly well. They sang with one voice. And while a couple of the tracks ran toward the ambient end of the spectrum, these moments seemed (to me) side salads and not entrees. But the CD: I haven't pulled it in a long time, but, as I recall, it is loaded with ambient, beatless shishing and swooshing. I found it a real disappointment -- one drum machine short of a good time. Intellectually interesting, to be sure -- all Basic Channel spoke to the mind. But listening to the CD was reading Noam Chomsky -- where the vinyl was like delving into Salon.com. Hip, smart, invigorating and approachable. My memories may be twisted, but that's how I saw it. That's like four cents, I guess. JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
