[313] from the us office of propaganda and misinformation
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Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
although that is a new (or newly released anyway) version. the originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. On Monday, July 15, 2002, at 04:32 AM, Niko Tzoukmanis wrote: that's axis 9a, track b2, the only track with no bassdrum which track is spider formation??? thanks hansi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 about following: although that is a new (or newly released anyway) version. the originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. it says on the other day booklet about spider formation Spider Formation taken from AX-009 (b2). i had always thought that if my life had a theme this composition would be it... continues and spider formation has *no bassdrum*. it's track 10 on that cd. that's axis 9a, track b2, the only track with no bassdrum sakke -- Progressive clubs are pathetic two years behind the times. - Dave Angel 1993 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 12:59 AM, Sakari Karipuro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 about following: although that is a new (or newly released anyway) version. the originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. it says on the other day booklet about spider formation Spider Formation taken from AX-009 (b2). i had always thought that if my life had a theme this composition would be it... continues like i said, newly released. and the The Other Day version is different... i think. maybe not. it's too late right now to dig them both out and compare them. but i do know that Spider Formation, as it appears on The Other Day, has been one of my favorite mills tracks for quite a while... a lot longer than the 009(b) series has been out. he did say with the release of the 009 series that this is stuff he's had around for a good while, etc... i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 about following: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 12:59 AM, Sakari Karipuro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 about following: originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. Spider Formation taken from AX-009 (b2). i had always thought that if my life had a like i said, newly released. and the The Other Day version is different... i think. maybe not. it's i was talking about the original version, which was released on axis-009 many many years ago (the original 009 ep), and appears as such in the other day cd. 009 series that this is stuff he's had around for a good while, etc... spider formation was recorded in 1992, according to his own words on the other day booklet. and considering axis-010, growth was released in 1994 i guess that the original axis-009 was released also in 1994, perhaps even in 1993. personally i was more into house during those days and mostly missed all essential techno releases. i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. from the the other day booklet: Spider Formation was also a unique design in which i considered designing my current studio. I eventually altered my designs and produced more 'control center' design. sakke -- Progressive clubs are pathetic two years behind the times. - Dave Angel 1993 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
for the music he makes, Jeff Mills sure makes himself sound like he does something intellectual or complex. there is a lot of much much better music out there, why does everyone worship the guy who tries to make 4/4 techno sound like physics? dont answer that, I already know the answer. - Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 about following: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 12:59 AM, Sakari Karipuro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 about following: originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. Spider Formation taken from AX-009 (b2). i had always thought that if my life had a like i said, newly released. and the The Other Day version is different... i think. maybe not. it's i was talking about the original version, which was released on axis-009 many many years ago (the original 009 ep), and appears as such in the other day cd. 009 series that this is stuff he's had around for a good while, etc... spider formation was recorded in 1992, according to his own words on the other day booklet. and considering axis-010, growth was released in 1994 i guess that the original axis-009 was released also in 1994, perhaps even in 1993. personally i was more into house during those days and mostly missed all essential techno releases. i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. from the the other day booklet: Spider Formation was also a unique design in which i considered designing my current studio. I eventually altered my designs and produced more 'control center' design. sakke -- Progressive clubs are pathetic two years behind the times. - Dave Angel 1993 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SV: [313] simple axis 9x-question
uh, now i'm getting curious. what *is* the answer? Hansi if i can't dance to it, it's not my physics -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 16 juli 2002 13:31 Till: Sakari Karipuro; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopia: 313@hyperreal.org Ämne: Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question for the music he makes, Jeff Mills sure makes himself sound like he does something intellectual or complex. there is a lot of much much better music out there, why does everyone worship the guy who tries to make 4/4 techno sound like physics? dont answer that, I already know the answer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Attention All SYDNEY Australia payer haters: Free ticket to recloose on sat.
Hi Payer Haters I wont put u through the long and deepressing story but the end result is that i am unable to use a ticket that i bought($30) for Mad rachet at the marrickville bowling club on sat 20th/7 (this weekend). Recloose Is the headliner. So i am offering the ticket for free to the first 313 sydney sider who would love to go. The conditions are that u have an awsome time. Do not ask for it if u r not worthy!! Regards Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
R3dshift wrote: for the music he makes, Jeff Mills sure makes himself sound like he does something intellectual or complex. there is a lot of much much better music out there, why does everyone worship the guy who tries to make 4/4 techno sound like physics? Perhaps because a large part of it *is* physics? Not to get too much into the Jeff Mills debate itself, but I think Mills (perhaps more than a lot of other artists) realizes how intertwined music and physics are: after all, sound is a wave that obeys the laws of physics and similarly, the process of cutting a vinyl release and playing it back is heavily influenced by the physics governing it. Knowing a little bit of the physics behind music and vinyl can only improve how well you're able to translate what's in your head into a real track and a piece of vinyl. Some examples of how the physics affect the music: the closer you get to the centre of a record, the more high end you will lose in the sound; the shorter a track, the more space you have on the record to accommodate the sidewards movement of the groove and the louder it can be cut; sawtooth(-like) waves or spikes in the sound cannot be cut properly on vinyl, they only work well on CD; etc. etc. More detailed info: http://www.acousticsounds.com/acoustic/acoustech/records.html http://www.aardvarkmastering.com/cutspec.htm and I'm sure there's plenty of sound experts on the list who can chime in on this. Otto, who had a crash course in sound/vinyl-physics during a three hour-dicussion with a cutting engineer last week :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging ben / glass city records
your email adress bounces, please hit me up again... mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: Acme?
-- Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:23:25 -0700 To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Acme? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all... I havn't posted here in a long time, but i seem to have run across a 2X12 test pressing that I need ID'd for me. The label says Acme Vinyl Corperation which is run out of Toronto, and the matrix number is AVA-001, and was mastered @ NSC. Both records are in the acid genre, fairly hard and I like them alot. What I am looking for is who put this out and when were these records put out. But any info would be handy. I have already scanned over record labels at Amazing Discographies and Discogs... thanks ahead of time for the help... STEPHEN CINCH- Elements Of Inspiration 2X12's. Flow; Atmosphere; Not Again; Mushed Tweak; Rat Bite; Ghosts. Stephen Cinch mxs+prod. AVA 001 ADVANCED ARCHITECTURE 10/04/96 hope this helps - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging paul innercity
hi paul, pls hit me back privately fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: Ticket has been taken. Re: [313] Attention All SYDNEY Australia payer haters:
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Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
I certainly don't worship him, but I do think Jeff Mills, at his best moments, makes some great records. Some of his tracks don't do much for me though, I find he is hit or miss. What I would say, is that I think more than anyone else, Jeff Mills writes tracks that are extremely dramatic and dynamic, which is not a quality that is particularly common in techno. His discourse may lack a certain intellecualt rigor, but I think he nevertheless qualifies as an artist as opposed to someone who is only an entertainer. I think perhaps some are offended that he presents himself as an artist, but I don't have a problem with it, I personally wish more people would be willing to discuss techno as an art form rather than just entertainment. /dave :P wrote: for the music he makes, Jeff Mills sure makes himself sound like he does something intellectual or complex. there is a lot of much much better music out there, why does everyone worship the guy who tries to make 4/4 techno sound like physics? dont answer that, I already know the answer. - Original Message - From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 about following: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 12:59 AM, Sakari Karipuro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 about following: originally released version does have a kick and appears on the The Other Day comp. Spider Formation taken from AX-009 (b2). i had always thought that if my life had a like i said, newly released. and the The Other Day version is different... i think. maybe not. it's i was talking about the original version, which was released on axis-009 many many years ago (the original 009 ep), and appears as such in the other day cd. 009 series that this is stuff he's had around for a good while, etc... spider formation was recorded in 1992, according to his own words on the other day booklet. and considering axis-010, growth was released in 1994 i guess that the original axis-009 was released also in 1994, perhaps even in 1993. personally i was more into house during those days and mostly missed all essential techno releases. i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. from the the other day booklet: Spider Formation was also a unique design in which i considered designing my current studio. I eventually altered my designs and produced more 'control center' design. sakke -- Progressive clubs are pathetic two years behind the times. - Dave Angel 1993 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] vladislav delay/loumo contacts
hi 313s any one can help with this contacts? its quite urgent. shlomi. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] john tejada contacts.
hi 313s anyone have this dudes contacts? its quite urgent. shlomi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Acid house site help needed
Http://www.acid-house.net Our project is nearly complete, a directory of acid house up to 89 but we are looking for flyers, any old memorabilia, mixes ad contacts for any of the acid originators mike dunn, earl spanky,pierre,marcus mixx tyree etc also if we are missing anything in our database 9it's pretty extnsive) please let us know..supply a scan or mp3 respect Placid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
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Re: [313] simple axis 9x-question
i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. from the the other day booklet: Spider Formation was also a unique design in which i considered designing my current studio. I eventually altered my designs and produced more 'control center' design. At the end of the B-side of the Very EP, a female voice tells the listener VERY was produced by Jeff Mills... so on and so forth ...at Spider Formation, Chicago I wonder if he got the name from Star Wars. Listen to Vader's lines during the attack on the Death Star in Episode 4. (when he's in his fighter, that is) -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net=== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] tresor interview
an interview i did with carola stoiber of tresor in March: http://dustedmag.com/features/2 the site is also worth checking out in general; lots of reviews of techno and otherwise. b - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] track id´s
Hi people, you can do me a big favor, by taking a listen to the sound samples (most longer than 2 minutes, some even 6 minutes - streaming real audio) at http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples (25 fragments at this moment) all are recorded from mix tapes, mostly from derrick may mixes.. so all tracks are great.. but I do not know the artist or title.. so please help me on this one. Yep.. indeed.. you should know at least one of them! Just hit http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples Here is one of my favourite: http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples/derrickatdemf20006.ram Thanks respect !!! Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] track id´s
http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples (25 fragments at this moment) Oh, and there are also 2 tracks form a marshall jefferson set! Since he plays mostly classics, some of you must know these! Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
Hi techies, Based on some advice I received on this list, a few months ago I bought a Dell Inspiron 4100 (i gig pentium processor, 128 meg ram running Win 2K) PC laptop to do music with. Only now have I started to kit it out to do music. I thought that I would get a USB box for audio because they're cheap. First I got a Midiman Quattro (audio+midi) which didn't work in the way it was supposed to (driver problems) so I sent that back and got an Edirol UA-5 and a Midiman 2x2. The midiman box didn't work (my laptop certainly doesn't like Midiman...) and the recording on the Edirol is full of pops and noise and I've fiddled with it for ages with no resolution of the problems. Has anyone else experienced problems like this? When I spoke to the shop that I got these bits from, they told me that they have a lot of trouble with PC laptops and have known issues with many of these USB boxes. I think that I have two options: either get a PCMCIA card for the machine that I have (more expensive, possibly becoming obsolete? but more reliable than USB) or just get a Mac and start making music instead of playing around with control panels and audio settings. Ahh What do you think? Regards, Al - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
you need to install your OS without ACPI, and then do some backround services optimizations for audio I would recommend XP as your OS of choise for audio. www.musicxp.net has some good tweak info and I can help you beyond that if you have questions. Im able to get 4ms latency at 96khz/24bit on my xp PC with 1ghz p3 and 512 megs of ram. Im using the delta 2496 -Joe - Original Message - From: Al Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems Hi techies, Based on some advice I received on this list, a few months ago I bought a Dell Inspiron 4100 (i gig pentium processor, 128 meg ram running Win 2K) PC laptop to do music with. Only now have I started to kit it out to do music. I thought that I would get a USB box for audio because they're cheap. First I got a Midiman Quattro (audio+midi) which didn't work in the way it was supposed to (driver problems) so I sent that back and got an Edirol UA-5 and a Midiman 2x2. The midiman box didn't work (my laptop certainly doesn't like Midiman...) and the recording on the Edirol is full of pops and noise and I've fiddled with it for ages with no resolution of the problems. Has anyone else experienced problems like this? When I spoke to the shop that I got these bits from, they told me that they have a lot of trouble with PC laptops and have known issues with many of these USB boxes. I think that I have two options: either get a PCMCIA card for the machine that I have (more expensive, possibly becoming obsolete? but more reliable than USB) or just get a Mac and start making music instead of playing around with control panels and audio settings. Ahh What do you think? Regards, Al - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
Mac. I use both windows machines and macs and have found that macs work better for me for music and pc's work better for web/email and spread sheets etc. this is fine with me I'm famuliar with both system and I am able to keep all the added crap off my mac so it's just for audio (pro tools, live, cubase). I would get a g3 ibook something make sure it has a 100 mhz bus, the pismo and marble models have that bus speed, the pismo being the best bargin right now around $800 for a 466 mhz on ebay. I know lots of people use pc's to make music and they do it with success. but I always notice thay have lots driver/hardware conflicts, i've_never_had_a_problem_driver or hardware related with my mac and I use the midiman usb 2x2. can't say that for the pc and yes I have used it with that machine. scotto I don't use a screw driver to loosen bolts, I get a wrench. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] studio WAS: simple axis9 question
One axis release has got a girl saying ...recorded in spider formation chicago before the track. . Must been a studio then, d been one of my favorite mills tracks for quite a while... a lot longer than the 009(b) series has been out. he did say with the release of the 009 series that this is stuff he's had around for a good while, etc... i once read that Spider Formation was the name (pet or otherwise) of his studio. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
there are no problems once someone tells you to install without ACPI or to disable it. both have their uses, but telling someone that just bought a laptop to get a g3 doesnt make much sense if you're aiming to solve the problem with any efficiency :) as I said, I'll help if I can, off -list of course. -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems Mac. I use both windows machines and macs and have found that macs work better for me for music and pc's work better for web/email and spread sheets etc. this is fine with me I'm famuliar with both system and I am able to keep all the added crap off my mac so it's just for audio (pro tools, live, cubase). I would get a g3 ibook something make sure it has a 100 mhz bus, the pismo and marble models have that bus speed, the pismo being the best bargin right now around $800 for a 466 mhz on ebay. I know lots of people use pc's to make music and they do it with success. but I always notice thay have lots driver/hardware conflicts, i've_never_had_a_problem_driver or hardware related with my mac and I use the midiman usb 2x2. can't say that for the pc and yes I have used it with that machine. scotto I don't use a screw driver to loosen bolts, I get a wrench. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] file space
so where is it that one can buy blank discs that fit up towards the 5-10 gig (like dvd) range? rather than the 650-700 mb of reg cd's? havent bought them before so call me ignorant. peace d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] minidisc music
Does anyone buy/sell prerecorded music on minidisc? I have heard this is popular in Japan and some places overseas. Does anyone on this list buy muisc in that format? Thanks Malcolm ~~ Malcolm J. McAtee http://www.djrecordsource.com Rare dance music vinyl phone 215.523.6658 fax 215.523.5777 e-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 313 stuff in barcelona and madrid? and portugal?
hi 313s i am going to be in august in barcelona madrid and portugal to play in a rave. any good 313 shops? events and 313people in those places? happy to hear from u kind regards yair who was once known as super coffee beans but no more:) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
maybe you should reread his orignal post. he asked about mac's, so I answered his question. snip snip or just get a Mac and start making music instead of playing around with control panels and audio settings. end the snip it's not like I'm biased against pc's, they have there purpose, hell this letter is being composed on one - Original Message - From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org both have their uses, but telling someone that just bought a laptop to get a g3 doesnt make much sense if you're aiming to solve the problem with any efficiency :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FW: This Friday, Ghostly Intl. Tour, L.A.!!
-- From: e.l.m. conceptions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:07:05 -0700 Subject: This Friday, Ghostly Intl. Tour, L.A.!! p a x / e.l.m. conceptions :/ ::: Friday, July 19th p a x will host the Ghostly International tour in L.A.!!! with performances by DABRYE -- live (Ghostly, Eastern Developements) MATHEW DEAR - live / d j (Ghostly, Spectral, Plus 8) DYKEHOUSE -- live / d j (Planet Mu, Ghostly) TRICHOME d j (e.l.m. conceptions) 18 and over!! located @ the echo 1822 Sunset blvd. in Echo Park $10 @ the door 9-2am -for more info. visit: www.elmconceptions.com time equals art or www.ghostly.com- ./innovation lies underground\. .._thank you for supporting the subterranean_.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
