Re: (313) downloading real audio?

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Bates
it certainly does not work with streambox vcr thats for sure!

ab


- Original Message -
From: Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matthew Mangold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:11 AM
Subject: RE: (313) downloading real audio?




 i;m using GetRight an it is not working. for example, the original link
 goes : http://www.d-i-r-t-y.com/medias/mix_suburban_knight.ram . and when
 i save it with Save Target As... what i get is:
 rtsp://real1.cicv.fr/Dirty/mix_suburban_knight.rm
 then i do as you said (replace rtsp:// with http://) but the download
 doesn't start.
 is this thing working with FlashGet only? and thy to download something
 from www.d-i-r-t-y.com , and if it works please let me know.

 regards

 ivan

 On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Matthew Mangold wrote:

  Not true if you're using a download manager like FlashGet. In FlashGet,
just
  chop off the pnm:// or whatever the prefix is, and change it to http://
and
  it will find the file. So far, I haven't found a file that this hasn't
  worked with, and I now have a directory with about 30 ra mixes in it,
which
  rules, cuz lately I'm not online long enough to check out a full-length
mix,
  anyhow.
 
  Matthew
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:21 PM
   To: Matthew Mangold
   Subject: RE: (313) downloading real audio?
  
  
  
   This only works with very old realaudios most nowadays don't have a
   normal url (http://...) in the ram file instead they use funny servers
   like nntp:// which you cannot download from directly - the stream
   rippers mentioned can connect to these servers (I presume by spoofing
   that they are actually a realplayer) and download the content.
 

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Re: (313) [313] just a quick question.

2003-02-10 Thread Jason Brunton
I also believe that Record Labels do not have to pay sales tax on copies
which are labelled Promotional Use or pay MCPS duties on those records
either.

Cheers

Jason Brunton
Iridite

 


On 2/9/03 12:11 PM, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 DJs, shops, distributors, journalists, live bookers etc etc etc. Many labels
 add stickers to promos saying 'not for re-sale', but it's a pointless
 endeavour: most inevitably get sold on for cash. Otherwise people would have
 shelves of unwanted records sitting there going to waste.
 
 TOM
 
 
   the curiosity is burning my brain.  who gets promo copies of releases?
 and, if they're not for re-sale... how do they end up on the market?
 
 
 



Re: (313) [313] just a quick question.

2003-02-10 Thread Rc
that's right - depending on the industry agreement in place in the territory
of production; mechanical royalties are not due on promotional pressings.

rc
on 10/2/03 9:08 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also believe that Record Labels do not have to pay sales tax on copies
 which are labelled Promotional Use or pay MCPS duties on those records
 either.
 
 Cheers
 
 Jason Brunton
 Iridite
 
 
 
 
 On 2/9/03 12:11 PM, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 DJs, shops, distributors, journalists, live bookers etc etc etc. Many labels
 add stickers to promos saying 'not for re-sale', but it's a pointless
 endeavour: most inevitably get sold on for cash. Otherwise people would have
 shelves of unwanted records sitting there going to waste.
 
 TOM
 
 
 the curiosity is burning my brain.  who gets promo copies of releases?
 and, if they're not for re-sale... how do they end up on the market?
 
 
 
 



(313) Deep house mix for u

2003-02-10 Thread Placid
Including  Harvey, Rasoul, house of jazz feat Ladfina Whitfield, Chez
Damier...

 Will post complete trackliast when I remember

http://www.acid-house.net/housemix.mp3



RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.

2003-02-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand copy of a
GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan Oldham'.
Is this correct?

(Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I wanted to ask
this.)
k

-Original Message-
From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque

on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
 glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
datroit...
 is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
 collaborated at some time?

 peace,
 lrh




Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Bates
IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
basement)

ab


- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


 Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand copy of a
 GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
Oldham'.
 Is this correct?

 (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I wanted to ask
 this.)
 k

 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
 To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
 If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque
 
 on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
  glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
 datroit...
  is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
  collaborated at some time?
 
  peace,
  lrh
 
 




RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Robert Taylor
Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever done) and a couple
of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up on the wall for
£40!
-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
basement)

ab


- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


 Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand copy of a
 GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
Oldham'.
 Is this correct?

 (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I wanted to ask
 this.)
 k

 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
 To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
 If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque
 
 on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
  glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
 datroit...
  is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
  collaborated at some time?
 
  peace,
  lrh
 
 



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Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Churchill
 Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand copy of a
 GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan Oldham'.
 Is this correct?

Glenn Underground and Alan Oldham are definitely two different people - and
I don't think they've ever collaborated?



RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
well that's business friend :)

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 10 februari 2003 12:23
 Aan: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever 
 done) and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up 
 on the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)
 
 ab
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd 
 hand copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I 
 wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are 
 very May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of 
 PF043 atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and 
 derrick actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Bates
selling records to shops in london = not smart!

ab


- Original Message -
From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Robert Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Alex Bates'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


well that's business friend :)

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 10 februari 2003 12:23
 Aan: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) [313] reckless


 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever
 done) and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up
 on the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)

 ab


 - Original Message -
 From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd
 hand copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I
 wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are
 very May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of
 PF043 atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and
 derrick actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 


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RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Robert Taylor
Tell me about it - I sold close to 2000 classic techno records (most of them
Detroit) and I know I will never get a lot of them back.
Never ever ever sell your records, even if you think you'll never listen to
them again.
-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Jongsma, K.J.; 'Robert Taylor'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV;
313
Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


selling records to shops in london = not smart!

ab


- Original Message -
From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Robert Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Alex Bates'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


well that's business friend :)

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: maandag 10 februari 2003 12:23
 Aan: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Onderwerp: RE: (313) [313] reckless


 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever
 done) and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up
 on the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)

 ab


 - Original Message -
 From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd
 hand copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I
 wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are
 very May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of
 PF043 atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and
 derrick actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 


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RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.

2003-02-10 Thread SayVegin
 Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand copy of a
 GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets
 'Alan Oldham'.
 Is this correct?


GU's real name is Glenn Crocker (as indicated on several of his
earlier releases). Haven't heard of any connection between him and
Alan Oldham.


  hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
  glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
 datroit...
  is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
  collaborated at some time?

AFAIK there never was a collaboration between DM and GU.

The only track on that album that is co-produced is Entercourse of the new
age (with Craig Gilliam), which first appeared on the We Have Arrived EP.
It was released on the Chicago Underground label in 91 or 92 (and very much
worth tracking down btw).

Maybe the title only means it was because some DM tracks had influenced him
into making may detroit?

If you want more info on GU, check www.freestylegrooves.com/gu


bye,
Bart
www.freestylegrooves.com




RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 and they don't always do their research - Gabrielle by Roy Davis Junior
had been repressed for months and they still had it on the wall for £30+ -
down the road in HMV, same label, same mixes, the genuine article, was going
for less than a tenner.

But still, they do have some goodies worth digging for, cheaper than
elsewhere or just plain availble vs non-existent in other shops.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:23 AM
To: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever done)
and a couple
of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up on
the wall for
£40!
-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
basement)

ab


- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.


 Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand
copy of a
 GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
Oldham'.
 Is this correct?

 (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I wanted to ask
 this.)
 k

 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
 To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
 If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque
 
 on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
  glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
 datroit...
  is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
  collaborated at some time?
 
  peace,
  lrh
 
 



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Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Alex Bates
which version was that? the one on large??

ab


- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Alex Bates'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee
Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


  and they don't always do their research - Gabrielle by Roy Davis
Junior
 had been repressed for months and they still had it on the wall for £30+ -
 down the road in HMV, same label, same mixes, the genuine article, was
going
 for less than a tenner.

 But still, they do have some goodies worth digging for, cheaper than
 elsewhere or just plain availble vs non-existent in other shops.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:23 AM
 To: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever done)
 and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up on
 the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)
 
 ab
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand
 copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043
atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick
actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 
 
 
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RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Brendan Nelson
They were selling the 12 of Zapp's More Bounce To The Ounce for about
£15 - I bought it anyway, and remarked to the guy behind the desk that
you kind of expect to pay through the nose for More Bounce anyway. The
guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that Computer Love -
the soppy ballad which was also on the 12 - was the reason for the
inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.

| -Original Message-
| From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 10 February 2003 11:36
| To: Robert Taylor; 'Alex Bates'; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
| Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless
| 
| 
|  and they don't always do their research - Gabrielle by 
| Roy Davis Junior
| had been repressed for months and they still had it on the 
| wall for £30+ -
| down the road in HMV, same label, same mixes, the genuine 
| article, was going
| for less than a tenner.
| 
| But still, they do have some goodies worth digging for, cheaper than
| elsewhere or just plain availble vs non-existent in other shops.
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:23 AM
| To: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
| Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless
| 
| 
| Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
| cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever done)
| and a couple
| of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up on
| the wall for
| £40!
| -Original Message-
| From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
| To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
| Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless
| 
| 
| IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
| basement)
| 
| ab
| 
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
| Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
| 
| 
|  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand
| copy of a
|  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
| Oldham'.
|  Is this correct?
| 
|  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I 
| wanted to ask
|  this.)
|  k
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
|  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
|  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
|  
|  
|  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are 
| very May-esque
|  
|  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  
|  
|   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of 
| PF043 atmosfear,
|   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
|  datroit...
|   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and 
| derrick actually
|   collaborated at some time?
|  
|   peace,
|   lrh
|  
|  
| 
| 
| 
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Re: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Churchill
 last i spoke lee grainge two years ago
 he seemed to be pretty busy running the fat cat label (or do i confuse
 things?)

Lee worked in Smallfish for a while, but is currently doing a sound
engineering/multimedia college course I think, as Rob mentioned...

I don't think he's involved with the Fat Cat label - are you thinking of
Alex Knight maybe?

 i read somewhere derrick may, has some kenny larkin material coming. but
 there has been more promised in the past - there still should be the seven
 nights album?

There is a new Kenny Larkin double album ready to go (which is excellent -
I've been lucky enough to hear it!). He's currently looking for the right
label to release it I believe...



RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken

The very same!


-Original Message-
From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:35 AM
To: 313 Mailing List
Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


which version was that? the one on large??

ab


- Original Message -
From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Alex Bates'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee
Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


  and they don't always do their research - Gabrielle by Roy Davis
Junior
 had been repressed for months and they still had it on the wall
for £30+ -
 down the road in HMV, same label, same mixes, the genuine article, was
going
 for less than a tenner.

 But still, they do have some goodies worth digging for, cheaper than
 elsewhere or just plain availble vs non-existent in other shops.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:23 AM
 To: 'Alex Bates'; Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 Not so great if you're selling - I sold loads of records there in my
 cash-strapped student days (the stupidest thing I've ever done)
 and a couple
 of times saw records that I had sold for a couple of quid up on
 the wall for
 £40!
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:14 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; Rc; Lee Herrington IV; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless
 
 
 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)
 
 ab
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee Herrington IV
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:43 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
 
 
  Once in Reckless Records in Berwick St, London, I saw a 2nd hand
 copy of a
  GU record with his name on the label followed by, in brackets 'Alan
 Oldham'.
  Is this correct?
 
  (Sorry - doesn't ansa yr q Marsel, it just reminded me I
wanted to ask
  this.)
  k
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:49 AM
  To: Lee Herrington IV; 313
  Subject: Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.
  
  
  If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very
May-esque
  
  on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043
atmosfear,
   glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may
  datroit...
   is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick
actually
   collaborated at some time?
  
   peace,
   lrh
  
  
 
 
 
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Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread spw
The way I see it life is too short to be a collector.
So you buy a piece of 'rare' vinyl catalog #001, put it in a
plastic sleeve and store it away with numerous other crates
of vinyl that's taking up space, 30-50 years from now the
value of everything you've collected will be irrelevant
because you'll be dead.
When I buy a record it's usually something I'll listen to more
than once or something I can use for a DJ set.

on 2/10/03 5:34 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tell me about it - I sold close to 2000 classic techno records (most of them
 Detroit) and I know I will never get a lot of them back.
 Never ever ever sell your records, even if you think you'll never listen to
 them again.



RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Robert Taylor
You misunderstand me - my regret comes from the fact that I will never be
able to listen to them again, not because they were worth anything -
collectors don't always collect for value, just out of love of and interest
in great music.

-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:20 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) [313] reckless


The way I see it life is too short to be a collector.
So you buy a piece of 'rare' vinyl catalog #001, put it in a
plastic sleeve and store it away with numerous other crates
of vinyl that's taking up space, 30-50 years from now the
value of everything you've collected will be irrelevant
because you'll be dead.
When I buy a record it's usually something I'll listen to more
than once or something I can use for a DJ set.

on 2/10/03 5:34 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tell me about it - I sold close to 2000 classic techno records (most of
them
 Detroit) and I know I will never get a lot of them back.
 Never ever ever sell your records, even if you think you'll never listen
to
 them again.


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Re: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread boca_raton
what about stasis? any new stuff from him??
yair
- Original Message -
From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: (313) lost talent


  last i spoke lee grainge two years ago
  he seemed to be pretty busy running the fat cat label (or do i confuse
  things?)

 Lee worked in Smallfish for a while, but is currently doing a sound
 engineering/multimedia college course I think, as Rob mentioned...

 I don't think he's involved with the Fat Cat label - are you thinking of
 Alex Knight maybe?

  i read somewhere derrick may, has some kenny larkin material coming. but
  there has been more promised in the past - there still should be the
seven
  nights album?

 There is a new Kenny Larkin double album ready to go (which is excellent -
 I've been lucky enough to hear it!). He's currently looking for the right
 label to release it I believe...





Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Maarten Baute
 IMO the best record store in all of london (and the angel soul/dance
 basement)


best store in the world maybee?

I didn´t found a better one yet..

I want to london for record shopping and found 35 records of my wantlist in
reckless.. and most of the items were very rare...

Oh man... Reckless is great..

Cheers,
Maarten



RE: (313)recordshops (was reckless)

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 best store in the world maybee?
 
 I didn´t found a better one yet..

Clone in Rotterdam and what is the name of that store in NYC, A1 i think?
that was impressive to!

Of course legendary shops include I-F's Hotmix store in The Hague, Fat Cat

 
 I want to london for record shopping and found 35 records of 
 my wantlist in
 reckless.. and most of the items were very rare...
 
 Oh man... Reckless is great..
 
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RE: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Anyone here who still has a working link to the website of Irdial? I had one
but it looks like it is no longer there...

kj

  last i spoke lee grainge two years ago
  he seemed to be pretty busy running the fat cat label (or 
 do i confuse
  things?)
 
 Lee worked in Smallfish for a while, but is currently doing a sound
 engineering/multimedia college course I think, as Rob mentioned...
 
 I don't think he's involved with the Fat Cat label - are you 
 thinking of
 Alex Knight maybe?
 
  i read somewhere derrick may, has some kenny larkin 
 material coming. but
  there has been more promised in the past - there still 
 should be the seven
  nights album?
 
 There is a new Kenny Larkin double album ready to go (which 
 is excellent -
 I've been lucky enough to hear it!). He's currently looking 
 for the right
 label to release it I believe...
 

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Re: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread J. T.
last i talked to him some months ago, he was not into making any music for 
some time now..too busy with work, family, etc..but still doing 
administrative duties for peacefrog..

jt


what about stasis? any new stuff from him??
yair
- Original Message -
From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: (313) lost talent


  last i spoke lee grainge two years ago
  he seemed to be pretty busy running the fat cat label (or do i confuse
  things?)

 Lee worked in Smallfish for a while, but is currently doing a sound
 engineering/multimedia college course I think, as Rob mentioned...

 I don't think he's involved with the Fat Cat label - are you thinking of
 Alex Knight maybe?

  i read somewhere derrick may, has some kenny larkin material coming. 
but

  there has been more promised in the past - there still should be the
seven
  nights album?

 There is a new Kenny Larkin double album ready to go (which is excellent 
-
 I've been lucky enough to hear it!). He's currently looking for the 
right

 label to release it I believe...





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(313) New Christian Bloch Album Available for Download

2003-02-10 Thread Christian Bloch
Go to http://thinnerism.com ... Here's the release info from the site:

CHRISTIAN BLOCH - YOUNG AMERICAN LP (THN027)
Release date: 10.02.2003 | Emotional Clickdub album by Christian
--
I guess Christian Bloch is a more than familiar name to most of the techno 
addicted people who are into downloading mp3s. Christian is a very active 
head since years with a huge archive of his works downloadable off his 
mp3.com page. So it's a great pleasure for Thinner that we may continue
supporting the Aalborg/Kobenhavn axis aside Curse, Danny Kreutzfeldt and 
Rasmus Møbius with the, meanwhile emigrated to Detroit, Christian. 
The album entitled Young American is a first chart of experience and
events 
that took place since Christians emigration. Unlike most of his available
works 
on mp3.com these songs stick together and need to be listened in full album 
context to get a proper entry to his passion and emotionality deep inside
the 
songs. It's cold and minimal shaped, yet intelligent and romantic deep
inside. Enter DTW starts as solid dubby track, and carries already the
main elements 
of the album, the very clacky closed hihats and overall clean and shaped
sounds. 
2030 memory is very clean, with tidied-up patterns and subtle portion of
dubfunk 
behind. Urban DK is on the borderline between dubbed click experiment or
idm 
electronica, with a sneaky filtered centipede-string which appears and
disappears. 
Pontiac Arrest distant dubby stabs and a big echoed snare subtley builds
up until 
the dominant hihats appear in the spotlights and fade out again. An ode to
the once 
flowering vehicle production in Detroit until it went all down? Immigration
Nation 
sounds emotional through the dust of structured and unstructed hisses, pops
and clicks. 
Old Soul sounds decent and carries a bit lonelyness through the delayed
pads i 
think. Maybe its the result of reviewing the timeline, wandering around the
vast city 
of Detroit with its old and historical theatres where nowadays big car
parkings are 
situated in. Arizona Fall builds a clean bridge between experimental and
intelligent 
techno.
Random Angel is explained by Christian himself: It is a subtly self
modulating 
pad, you don't notice the changes, but they are there. Most of the time very
subtle, 
but other times very sudden. There's two reasons I wanted to put it on the
album. 
First of all it cleans you mind before Night Drive. It is a long lonely
walk in 
the cold winter night before you get to where you're going. Secondly: It's
minimal 
to the extreme. It's a mindtool, flushes out distractions, something I
personally 
really need.
Talking about Night Drive, this song might be a surprise to many people
indeed ... 
sweet, tender and very melancholy. Uncovers strong reactions from most.
Sebastian: The artwork is new to Thinner - human beings aesthetically
photographed 
being naked. Related to the state of your album, and trying to get the
message, is 
it for the sake of learning from almost zero there and now delivering a
current 
analysis in musical form?
Christian: Exactly. A rebirth, a new life, new friends, new customs and a
new 
culture. I wouldn't call it an analysis, rather a response. An outburst of
provoked feelings, an outlet for frustration, anger and fear. Most of all
it's a reaction, 
not an analysis. I don't make music according to cold analysis, it's not
calculated 
like that. To quote the late Bill Hicks: Play the f**king music from the
f**king heart. True.
--
9 tracks :: 45min 34sec :: 64.19 MB
01: Enter DTW 05.30\7.74MB
02: 2030 Memory 05.27\7.67MB
03: Urban DK 03.51\5.42MB
04: Pontiac Arrest 06.09\8.64MB
05: Immigration Nation 05.24\7.61MB
06: Old Soul 05.37\7.91MB
07: Arizona Fall 04.54\6.90MB
08: Random Angel 04.59\7.03MB
09: Night Drive 03.44\5.27MB


Christian Bloch
http://christianbloch.com
http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm
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Muzik/Funque Droppings



(313) Jerry Abstract?

2003-02-10 Thread diana potts

 Anyone still keep contact with him? 

I was listening to one of his mix CD's the other day.
Amazing, straight forward IDM and techno. Flawless. 

I know he's out in Seattle, but I haven't heard from
him in a long while.

d

 

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(YahooIM:dianalynn80::aolIM:pottsdia)

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RE: (313) Fw: CABARET VOLTAIRE - Ltd Edition 12 - Out 17th March 2003

2003-02-10 Thread Grammenos, Peter

The akufen remix of 'nag nag nag' is simply amazing, what a
remix *should* be, a re-working of the entire song - not just
the addition of bits and bobs here and there.

-p

-Original Message-
From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:44 AM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: (313) Fw: CABARET VOLTAIRE - Ltd Edition 12 - Out 17th March
2003



CABARET VOLTAIRE
'Nag Nag Nag' Richard H Kirk Mixes
Release Date: 17th March 2003

The Grey Area of Mute are set to release four brand new mixes of the Cabaret
Voltaire classic 'Nag Nag Nag' by Cabs founder member Richard H Kirk on the
17th of March.

Released on Special Limited Edition 12 vinyl only, the new mixes were
inspired by novamute's 2002 re-release of 'Nag Nag Nag', with remixes by
Akufen and Tiga  Zyntherius. Originally Richard decided to tinker with the
track for his own personal use, but was persuaded to include his # 4 mix on
the release last year. He has now allowed The Grey Area of Mute to release a
strictly limited edition 12 of all the mixes.

This is the first in a series of Cabaret Voltaire releases on Mute's Grey
Area and novamute labels throughout 2003. Forthcoming releases include:

A remix 12 of 'Yashar', with mixes by All Seeing I and Alter Ego, due for
release on novamute on the 5th of May.

A box set of rare and unreleased material Methodology - The Attic Tapes
(1974-1978) will be released on May 19th.

A DVD Double Vision Presents Cabaret Voltaire will be released on the 9th
of June.


www.mute.com





(313) 412 vs 313 [21FEB2003 in Detroit]

2003-02-10 Thread Matthew Mangold
On Friday February 21, 2003, we will be celebrating Ani's birthday at Third
Street Saloon. For those of you who haven't been in the loop, Ani has
recently relocated to Pittsburgh, but will be in town for this special
weekend. Please come out and enjoy good music, cheap drinks, and an intimate
atmosphere.

*** BEGIN  TRANSMISSION ***

/***
/* fouronetwo_versus_threeonethree */
 ***/

#include412.h
#include313.h

Friday( 02.21.2003, 10PM-2AM )
   {
   Shawn Rudiman( Live, [Technoir Audio], Pittsburgh );
   Jwan Allen( DJ, [Technoir Audio], Pittsburgh );
   Ani( DJ, [Lofthouse], Detroit );
   Greg Mudge( [GM], Detroit );
   Matthew Mangold( [Threeonethree], Detroit );
   }

SHAWN RUDIMAN - Recently returned from a European tour, Shawn has releases
on a countless number of labels- most recently 7th City and Technoir Audio.
His newest EP, Rubin's Place is receiving outstanding support, and will
have a tune from it featured on Dan 'DBX' Bell's newest mixed CD, The
Button Down Mind Strikes Back. Don't miss a rare opportunity to witness a
true Detroit techno experience.

JWAN ALLEN - Having been on the scene for the better part of ten years, Jwan
plays everything from angry Mills-styled tracks to soothing C2 vibes. On
this night, be sure to expect to hear tunes that have never graced thine
ears before.

ANI - Formerly of Record Time in Roseville, Ani selects only the choicest,
deepest, house and techno. Recently relocated to Pittsburgh, don't miss this
rare opportunity to catch her in the mix at one of Detroit's most seductive
nightspots.

GREG MUDGE - The host of Sunday nights' MACHINE MUSIC at Third Street
Saloon, Greg lays down minimal techno and house grooves alongside
electro-tinged rhythms resulting in some of the sickest mixes under the
radar. If you haven't seen this maestro at work, now is the time.

MATTHEW MANGOLD - The head of the online music source, 'threeonethree.com'
will be serving up minimal housey techno with dub and atmospheric
influences. Not one to skimp on heavy basslines, Matt will attempt once
again to test the capacity of Third Street's soundsystem.

*** END TRANSMISSION ***

Third Street Saloon is located at 701 W. Forest at Anthony Wayne Drive
(Third St.). Doors at 10, goes 'til 2. For directions to the club, cut and
paste the link at the bottom of the page into your browser.

Hope to see you all there; don't forget to bring your smile.

XXX,
Matthew



RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Matthew MacQueen
 The guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that 
 Computer Love - the soppy ballad which was also on the 12 
 - was the reason for the inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.

Blasphemy, that's a Zapp anthem!  Classic 1985 Dayton Ohio electronics, all the 
Troutman flourishes, etc...  you'll be glad you have it Brendan -- Or maybe 
this us a US thing.  Even if it's the one you have to play last, when the light 
come full on and all the couples walk out of the club together hand-in-hand  ;)

peace,
Matt MacQueen




RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Rob Theakston

and if y'all really want to get deep on the Troutman productions, i highly
suggest seeking out the group Dayton and their album Feel the Music. funky
funky stuff that really is a welcome treasure to have ;D

this site has some files up.
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/studio-b/index.html

macqueen, are you going to go see Burgess on the 22nd?
i'm contemplating making the trek down. . .hit me back




-Original Message-
From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:52 AM
To: 313
Cc: Brendan Nelson
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


 The guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that
 Computer Love - the soppy ballad which was also on the 12
 - was the reason for the inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.

Blasphemy, that's a Zapp anthem!  Classic 1985 Dayton Ohio electronics, all
the Troutman flourishes, etc...  you'll be glad you have it Brendan -- Or
maybe this us a US thing.  Even if it's the one you have to play last, when
the light come full on and all the couples walk out of the club together
hand-in-hand  ;)

peace,
Matt MacQueen





Re: (313) Tokyo Record Store recommendations

2003-02-10 Thread Toby Frith
Cisco or Disk union.  Don't know their addresses sorry, but I think the
latter is in Shibuya.



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Subject: (313) Tokyo Record Store recommendations


 Hi

 Does anyone have any recommendations for good record stores in Tokyo?

 Cheers

 David





RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Wibo Lammerts
Dayton's The Sound Of music (NOT in ANYWAY related to the movie under the
same name) is absolute class. Especially the 12 mix with those vocoder
vocals... WW

W

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From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 10 februari 2003 16:59
To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless



and if y'all really want to get deep on the Troutman productions, i highly
suggest seeking out the group Dayton and their album Feel the Music. funky
funky stuff that really is a welcome treasure to have ;D

this site has some files up.
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/studio-b/index.html

macqueen, are you going to go see Burgess on the 22nd?
i'm contemplating making the trek down. . .hit me back




-Original Message-
From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:52 AM
To: 313
Cc: Brendan Nelson
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


 The guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that
 Computer Love - the soppy ballad which was also on the 12
 - was the reason for the inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.

Blasphemy, that's a Zapp anthem!  Classic 1985 Dayton Ohio electronics, all
the Troutman flourishes, etc...  you'll be glad you have it Brendan -- Or
maybe this us a US thing.  Even if it's the one you have to play last, when
the light come full on and all the couples walk out of the club together
hand-in-hand  ;)

peace,
Matt MacQueen




RE: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 10 February 2003 15:52
| 
|  The guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that 
|  Computer Love - the soppy ballad which was also on the 12 
|  - was the reason for the inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.
| 
| Blasphemy, that's a Zapp anthem!  Classic 1985 Dayton Ohio 
| electronics, all the Troutman flourishes, etc...  you'll be 
| glad you have it Brendan -- Or maybe this us a US thing.  
| Even if it's the one you have to play last, when the light 
| come full on and all the couples walk out of the club 
| together hand-in-hand  ;)

Oh, I won't deny that, once I got home, I kind of fell in love with the
track! I even included it on a mix I posted to 313 back in November or
something - it forms part of a smoochy couple-orientated interlude, and
then the energy is restored when D-Train's Keep On suddenly comes in
after Computer Love. But I was still surprised that Reckless consider
Computer Love to be the most valuable track!

I managed to get I Wanna Be Your Man on 12 the other day, but my
major excitement at the moment stems from my recent acquisition of the
Play At Your Own Risk acapella...

Brendan


Re: (313) Tokyo Record Store recommendations

2003-02-10 Thread Cyhl
in shibuya, there's a street where you basically have only record 
stores; they are all there ! don't remember the name of the street, but 
if you go to tower records and ask about it to the guy who takes care of 
the electronic music section, he'll tell you (that's what I did :) )


cyhl

http://www.dreamlabrecords.com
http://www.bastardjazz.com


Toby Frith wrote:


Cisco or Disk union.  Don't know their addresses sorry, but I think the
latter is in Shibuya.



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Subject: (313) Tokyo Record Store recommendations


 


Hi

Does anyone have any recommendations for good record stores in Tokyo?

Cheers

David


   




 






(313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count the BPMs of a
track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This is fine as far
as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding full-blown music
production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM counting
automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe in through the
sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make mixers that count
BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do the same, but
all I can find are key-tappers.

TOM



Re: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread r3dshift
3 pieces of software offhand that do this:

syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)

and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
 its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
packages.

-Joe


I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
the BPMs of a
track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
is fine as far
as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
full-blown music
production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
counting
automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
in through the
sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
mixers that count
BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
the same, but
all I can find are key-tappers.

TOM



Re: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread Michael Lees
I think WinAmp 3 tries to do this for it's visualisation studio. Don't 
know how reliable it is?


--Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

3 pieces of software offhand that do this:

syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)
and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
 its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
packages.

-Joe


I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
the BPMs of a
track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
is fine as far
as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
full-blown music
production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
counting
automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
in through the
sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
mixers that count
BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
the same, but
all I can find are key-tappers.

TOM






RE: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
Yeah...but Winamp 3 threw a monkey wrench in my $hit...anyone else have 
problems with the new and improved winamp?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) counting BPMs


I think WinAmp 3 tries to do this for it's visualisation studio. Don't 
know how reliable it is?

--Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 3 pieces of software offhand that do this:
 
 syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
 abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
 native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)
 and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
  its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
 packages.
 
 -Joe
 
 
 I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
 the BPMs of a
 track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
 is fine as far
 as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
 full-blown music
 production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
 counting
 automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
 in through the
 sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
 mixers that count
 BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
 the same, but
 all I can find are key-tappers.
 
 TOM
 




(313) this friday in detroit

2003-02-10 Thread ::\)
valentines, is there anything going on friday in the D?

I'd like to do the dinner/movie/techno date with my girl, if possible.

thanks

-Joe





Re: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread ::\)
2.81 rocks, 3 is sluggish, this is way way off topic

end

-Joe

- Original Message -
From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: (313) counting BPMs


Yeah...but Winamp 3 threw a monkey wrench in my $hit...anyone else have
problems with the new and improved winamp?

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) counting BPMs


I think WinAmp 3 tries to do this for it's visualisation studio. Don't
know how reliable it is?

--Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 3 pieces of software offhand that do this:

 syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
 abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
 native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)
 and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
  its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
 packages.

 -Joe


 I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
 the BPMs of a
 track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
 is fine as far
 as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
 full-blown music
 production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
 counting
 automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
 in through the
 sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
 mixers that count
 BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
 the same, but
 all I can find are key-tappers.

 TOM






Re: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
me too, and it doesnt support .ogg files
- Original Message -
From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: (313) counting BPMs


 I'm still using WinAmp 2.8x, I installe 3, found it to be bunk, and got
rid
 of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:42 PM
 Cc: 313 mailing list
 Subject: RE: (313) counting BPMs


 Yeah...but Winamp 3 threw a monkey wrench in my $hit...anyone else have
 problems with the new and improved winamp?

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
 Subject: Re: (313) counting BPMs


 I think WinAmp 3 tries to do this for it's visualisation studio. Don't
 know how reliable it is?

 --Mike

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  3 pieces of software offhand that do this:
 
  syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
  abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
  native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)
  and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
   its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
  packages.
 
  -Joe
 
 
  I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
  the BPMs of a
  track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
  is fine as far
  as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
  full-blown music
  production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
  counting
  automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
  in through the
  sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
  mixers that count
  BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
  the same, but
  all I can find are key-tappers.
 
  TOM
 


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RE: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread logic7
Yes, OggVorbis is usually what I use to compress my audio nowadays. It
sounds far better than mp3 could ever and it's free to use.

-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:55 PM
To: logic7; Darren Longton (Marketing)
Cc: 313 mailing list
Subject: Re: (313) counting BPMs


me too, and it doesnt support .ogg files
- Original Message -
From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: (313) counting BPMs


 I'm still using WinAmp 2.8x, I installe 3, found it to be bunk, and got
rid
 of it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:42 PM
 Cc: 313 mailing list
 Subject: RE: (313) counting BPMs


 Yeah...but Winamp 3 threw a monkey wrench in my $hit...anyone else have
 problems with the new and improved winamp?

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet; 313 mailing list
 Subject: Re: (313) counting BPMs


 I think WinAmp 3 tries to do this for it's visualisation studio. Don't
 know how reliable it is?

 --Mike

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  3 pieces of software offhand that do this:
 
  syntrilliums cool edit pro (editor)
  abletons live (arranger + live sequencer)
  native instruments traktor (DJing with mp3/wavs)
  and the feature to which you refer is called tap-tempo.
   its kinda common on newer gear, and now in some software
  packages.
 
  -Joe
 
 
  I recently downloaded some shareware which lets you count
  the BPMs of a
  track by tapping your keyboard in time with the music. This
  is fine as far
  as it goes, but does anyone know of any software (excluding
  full-blown music
  production/arrangement software packages) that allow BPM
  counting
  automatically ie. counting the speed of whatever you pipe
  in through the
  sound card? I assume that if hardware companies can make
  mixers that count
  BPMs then there must be some software out there that can do
  the same, but
  all I can find are key-tappers.
 
  TOM
 


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Re: (313) this friday in detroit

2003-02-10 Thread glyph1001
isn't that Kevin Saunderson night happening on friday at the works?  but 
for the movie I recommendDaredevil!   ;-)   Looking forward to that 
one myself.


::) wrote:


valentines, is there anything going on friday in the D?

I'd like to do the dinner/movie/techno date with my girl, if possible.

thanks

-Joe




 






(313) Philosomatik Records

2003-02-10 Thread Roberto Ty
Can anyone give me 
some info on 
Philosomatik 
Records?

Thanks.



Re: (313) counting BPMs

2003-02-10 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Fabrizio Nahum wrote on Mon, 10 Feb 2003 about following:

  I'm still using WinAmp 2.8x, I installe 3, found it to be bunk, and got

 me too, and it doesnt support .ogg files

yes it does. you just need to download the *full* version. 
 

sakke


(313) Thomas Krome

2003-02-10 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Anyone know anything about him? DJ Skills? Music played?

He's spinning tonight at the new location of Tronic Treatment @ sullivan
room - NYC.

Thanks for any info.

-Pete

--- 
Peter Grammenos 
Goldman Sachs  Co. 
Tel : 212.902.2446 
--- 




Re: (313) [313] reckless

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew
Weird coincidence - I was in Reckless in Camden yesterday and got two things
I've been after for a while - Avion by Damon Wild (the live version from
Jeff Mills 'Liquid Room' mix) and that Tok Tok vs Soffy O single (don't
laugh) - it's definitely a great shop. Better than the Exchange ;-)

As for Zapp, nobody's mentioned 'It Doesn't Really Matter', from Zapp 4 -
amazing electro funk, with brilliant lyrics recounting the history of black
music from the Aretha to Prince! And, it's got a choice sample in there if
anyone can spot itdo check it if you can.

PS Computer Love rocks.

- Original Message -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: (313) [313] reckless


| -Original Message-
| From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 10 February 2003 15:52
|
|  The guy looked at me as if I was insane, and told me that
|  Computer Love - the soppy ballad which was also on the 12
|  - was the reason for the inflated price! Which made me laugh a bit.
|
| Blasphemy, that's a Zapp anthem!  Classic 1985 Dayton Ohio
| electronics, all the Troutman flourishes, etc...  you'll be
| glad you have it Brendan -- Or maybe this us a US thing.
| Even if it's the one you have to play last, when the light
| come full on and all the couples walk out of the club
| together hand-in-hand  ;)

Oh, I won't deny that, once I got home, I kind of fell in love with the
track! I even included it on a mix I posted to 313 back in November or
something - it forms part of a smoochy couple-orientated interlude, and
then the energy is restored when D-Train's Keep On suddenly comes in
after Computer Love. But I was still surprised that Reckless consider
Computer Love to be the most valuable track!

I managed to get I Wanna Be Your Man on 12 the other day, but my
major excitement at the moment stems from my recent acquisition of the
Play At Your Own Risk acapella...

Brendan



(313) DEMF site

2003-02-10 Thread Dave Pinter
update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. 
www.demf.com

-dp


RE: (313) DEMF site

2003-02-10 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
How is it that they can use the name DEMF?  I thought that ASSculture owned it?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Pinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:09 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) DEMF site


update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. 
www.demf.com

-dp


(313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread kataconda
does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
festival?
transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
sure they're busy)
thanks
kaojyan

www.acidsonicresearch.com




Re: (313) lost talent

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Brown
Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
 Anyone here who still has a working link to the website of Irdial? I had one
 but it looks like it is no longer there...

http://www.irdial.com/

Mike

-- 
  Denver, Colorado, USA
  http://hyperreal.org/~mike/


Re: (313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread g
if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the
right hands.

- Original Message -
From: kataconda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos


 does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
 festival?
 transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
 sure they're busy)
 thanks
 kaojyan

 www.acidsonicresearch.com




RE: (313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread Cyborg K
Unfortunately, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email given on the site does not seem to be
running.
If anyone can give me some contact info for the festival, I would really
appreciate it.
/dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM
To: kataconda; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF site/demos


if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the
right hands.

- Original Message -
From: kataconda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos


 does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
 festival?
 transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
 sure they're busy)
 thanks
 kaojyan

 www.acidsonicresearch.com