(313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix
well off topic, but if any of you like that '93 darkcore jungle, here is an old mix I did last year. it's 45 minutes, but i'm gonna put the whole 80 minute mix out soon click this link to stream http://www.ragga-jungle.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=UpDownloadfile=indexreq=getitlid=92 or click this to download http://media.ragga-jungle.com/play.php?file=/Mixes/Recoil/Astral_Physics.MP3download=1 e-z Recoil live on InterFACE - Astral Physics -- every Tuesday 7-9 pm est, Toronto - http://www.pirate-radio.co.uk msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 98984143 :) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT), spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: label design and music are equally important. Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even though it doesn't look right. I'm interested in your rationale behind these statements, as yet you are to release them to us - you keep iterating the same point. Perhaps we're not worthy? If it's a pop record, then yes, Britney's t*ts must look bigger on the cover so that more people will buy it. This ain't pop music dude. As someone who has done label art on this list (and gee... there aren't many otheres on this list who have done it ;P), yes.. label art is important, but at no point is it so important that it's importance eclipses that of the music. If it was, we'd all be employing TDR to do our artwork and releasing white noise. -- Benn Glazier aka DJ Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph:+61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
Could it be maybe: http://www.portiasurreal.com/ /jens - Original Message - From: spacecrusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) Waveless DJing this thread is oddly relevant to two different aspects of my friday night. my bud Jack Buser was doing a live set in a backroom at the big club here in SF- 1015, and he just gets into it. One of our mutual friends commented that it was like watching a puppetshow cuz he was bopping around and just rockin out like that. Lets put it this way- remember the party you were at when you were dancing up a storm more than any other time cuz you were just that into it? well if a waveless DJ is that excited to be playing their own music for a crowd, which is pretty reasonable, why shouldn't they go bonkers? and if there's parts of the crowd that vibe off that energy? well, great. thats a great side effect at least, I guess as long as its not just theatrical fluff thats a put on. contrasting this, there was another side room where the DJ was playing electroclash. ZERO skills tho- she wasn't even bothering to mix the records. songs would literaly end and be silent and then she'd let the next one start up. Sounds retarded right? well, oh I should mention that she was topless, just wearing some lingerie and letting her big fake tits hang out for the crowd of dudes to gape at the whole time. During parts of some songs she'd get great cheers by rubbing her breats like a stripper (which I'm pretty sure she is). anyway, I'm sure some of that audience took something home with them that night! -- Original Message -- From: lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:07:57 -0400 Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh? ;) sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep booths - lol! lisa sean deason wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Martin WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... :^) sean Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
Re: (313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix
recoil, what are you doing here? ;) On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:28:11 -0400, Recoil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well off topic, but if any of you like that '93 darkcore jungle, here is an old mix I did last year. it's 45 minutes, but i'm gonna put the whole 80 minute mix out soon click this link to stream http://www.ragga- jungle.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=UpDownloadfile=indexreq=getitlid=92 or click this to download http://media.ragga- jungle.com/play.php?file=/Mixes/Recoil/Astral_Physics.MP3download=1 e-z Recoil live on InterFACE - Astral Physics -- every Tuesday 7-9 pm est, Toronto - http://www.pirate-radio.co.uk msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 98984143 :) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records -DJ Entropy http://www.djentropy.com
RE: (313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix
entropy, what are YOU doing here? ab -Original Message- From: DJ Entropy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:37 AM To: Recoil ; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix recoil, what are you doing here? ;) On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:28:11 -0400, Recoil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well off topic, but if any of you like that '93 darkcore jungle, here is an old mix I did last year. it's 45 minutes, but i'm gonna put the whole 80 minute mix out soon click this link to stream http://www.ragga- jungle.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=UpDownloadfile=indexreq=getitlid=9 2 or click this to download http://media.ragga- jungle.com/play.php?file=/Mixes/Recoil/Astral_Physics.MP3download=1 e-z Recoil live on InterFACE - Astral Physics -- every Tuesday 7-9 pm est, Toronto - http://www.pirate-radio.co.uk msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 98984143 :) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records -DJ Entropy http://www.djentropy.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) OT- 93 darkside jungle mix
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:34:06 +0930, Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: entropy, what are YOU doing here? I like most all music, I'm on many lists. :) ab -Original Message- From: DJ Entropy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:37 AM To: Recoil ; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT-93 darkside jungle mix recoil, what are you doing here? ;) On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:28:11 -0400, Recoil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well off topic, but if any of you like that '93 darkcore jungle, here is an old mix I did last year. it's 45 minutes, but i'm gonna put the whole 80 minute mix out soon click this link to stream http://www.ragga- jungle.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=UpDownloadfile=indexreq=getitlid=9 2 or click this to download http://media.ragga- jungle.com/play.php?file=/Mixes/Recoil/Astral_Physics.MP3download=1 e-z Recoil live on InterFACE - Astral Physics -- every Tuesday 7-9 pm est, Toronto - http://www.pirate-radio.co.uk msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 98984143 :) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records -DJ Entropy http://www.djentropy.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 -- http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records -DJ Entropy http://www.djentropy.com
Re: (313) Waveless DJing
;) We give it everything we've got - people are paying and travelling to see us do our stuff, it only seems right that you should pull out all the stops. I remember one gig where there was only one guy dancing, all night, he was mad for it - so we went for it with him - working the decks and the lights, we had a great time - he now comes to everything we do :) Plus loads of people sat in the dark corners seemed to enjoy it as well :/ I think the biggest problem for techno at the moment is that many of the name DJ's aren't doing as much as they could to support the smaller clubs (350 -600 people), there are only a few big clubs in the UK at the moment putting Techno on, probably only 3 on a regular basis, however, there are probably 20+ good small clubs working away, bringing new talent to the scene, it's a bit of a shame really... Martin 16/6/03 6:07 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gosh Martin, those DUST events must be pretty good then eh? ;) sean you dirty birdie, after reading your post I have visions of DJ peep booths - lol! lisa sean deason wrote: - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] its annoying to have people stare at you during a set, you're just there to provide the music. Nothing wrong with this, mostly it's people looking to take a little of what you are doing back home to practice with in the bedroom. Martin WHAT!!? Are people now fantasizing about DJ's in the bedroom?? I never knew this sort of behaviour was going on. I mean... I knew people were staring...I just didn't suspect...you people are disgusting!!! Get a proper porn mag or something! I mean, yeah Rob Theakston does know how to manipulate the decks and tweak the EQ knobs, and the way he works that crossfader,uhm... I gotta go...something just came up... :^) sean
(313) Detroit Graphics
Talking about label art, has anybody got any news on Abdul Haqq? His cover work for Buzz Records was outstanding.
RE: (313) Detroit Graphics
Dunno... he is still alive and still works for submerge, does artwork for their labels, makes paintings and does the odd show: http://www.undergroundresistance.com/missions/m_006.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dave Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 17 juni 2003 13:24 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) Detroit Graphics Talking about label art, has anybody got any news on Abdul Haqq? His cover work for Buzz Records was outstanding. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
(313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
Record label design is important for the very same reasons a good company logo design is important to a company. this was my point with KMS (the aesthetic value of Kevin Saunderson's initials) and a great logo design like Transmat. I can easily spot a Transmat record a mile away without discerning the text. When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. Using KMS as an example, I can easily see KMS or Transmat being used as company names in the technology Industry such as KMS Microprocessors or Transmat Alloid. As someone who has done label art on this list (and gee... there aren't many otheres on this list who have done it ;P), yes.. label art is important, but at no point is it so important that it's importance eclipses that of the music. I never said that although wouldn't misjudge it's i importance as insignificant. That would be foolish, now wouldn't it? =
RE: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k
sarcasm aside, I agree. --- Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we like your content and the direction you were going...but the graphic design on the front could be a lot better =
Re: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k
Seriously, if you don't like my opinion kiss my ass and continue to discuss 313 record label design, it's on topic. --- Brian 'balistic' Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb! j U CANT TOUCH DIS Seriously guys, this thread needs to stop* =
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John
RE: (313) Detroit Graphics
I still think delta inc. takes the cake. IMHO;) www.deltainc.nl Boris is DA MAN! ...also just saw a cover of his in the May XLR8R #67, page 21. Big ups! -Original Message- From: Dave Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 7:24 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Detroit Graphics Talking about label art, has anybody got any news on Abdul Haqq? His cover work for Buzz Records was outstanding.
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in. I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo that's a tough one. --- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, hot shot designers. Here's a contest. Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way. In other words $0.00 telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @ tronictreatment.com w/Stewart Walker -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com =
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
really you make this list so much more fun! On dinsdag, jun 17, 2003, at 20:33 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote: Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in. I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo that's a tough one. --- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, hot shot designers. Here's a contest. Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way. In other words $0.00 telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @ tronictreatment.com w/Stewart Walker -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
or more annoying depending on how many times you like to hit delete...NEW TOPIC ANYONE?? michael www.renegaderhythms.com Klaas Jan Jongsma wrote: really you make this list so much more fun! On dinsdag, jun 17, 2003, at 20:33 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote: Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in. I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo that's a tough one. --- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, hot shot designers. Here's a contest. Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way. In other words $0.00 telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @ tronictreatment.com w/Stewart Walker -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for me. More, please. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k -- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] label design and music are equally important. this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. tom andythepooh.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
I was talking about techno names but if you want to get philosophical the human race is doomed and will become obsolete like the Neanderthal man. The Borg is a primitive science fiction concept since you will be dealing with more advance technology in the not to distant future such as nano technology, computers on the molecular level. people are only animals genetically closely related to the Ape and will continue to evolve like all thing in nature including technology. I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John =
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
You really need to get laid. next... MEK spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) 06/17/03 02:07 PM I was talking about techno names but if you want to get philosophical the human race is doomed and will become obsolete like the Neanderthal man. The Borg is a primitive science fiction concept since you will be dealing with more advance technology in the not to distant future such as nano technology, computers on the molecular level. people are only animals genetically closely related to the Ape and will continue to evolve like all thing in nature including technology. I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John =
(313) TRAXX in Portland tonight....
in case any of you 313'ers happen to be around portland, (oregon that is)come check out Traxx tonight at the 1201we are starting a new night out here and melvin is kicking it off for usshould be a good oneany questions please email me. michael www.renegaderhythms.com
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
-- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. youre such an idiot. it really hurts my head to read your posts. i know having no soul must suck but you dont have to keep trying to let us know what its like. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Love Parade
Anyone going this year from 313? I will be there and playing at the Metronom Club on the 12th with Technasia, so very pleased about that but I have to say as I am always looking for the best music not the best plug :) Jeff Mills, Christian Vogel, Blake Baxter, Surgeon Regis,Rolando, Madga , Funk D'void, need I go on! are all at Tresor! I might have to hop over there I think : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
Re: (313) Love Parade
Congrats Ian. That sounds like a serious party. :) Technasia is great although I yet to hear them DJ. Hopefully soon, but as I live in Miami it may be a while. Carl Cox hasn't been year in 3 years so I think I have to take a trip out to Europe at some point. Regards, Ramon -- Original Message -- From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:41:56 +0100 Anyone going this year from 313? I will be there and playing at the Metronom Club on the 12th with Technasia, so very pleased about that but I have to say as I am always looking for the best music not the best plug :) Jeff Mills, Christian Vogel, Blake Baxter, Surgeon Regis,Rolando, Madga , Funk D'void, need I go on! are all at Tresor! I might have to hop over there I think : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
(313) massive attack/octave one
anyone heard the octave one remix of massive attack that's out at the moment? _ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
SPW - I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list Start one then dude. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something... MIKE -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) I was talking about techno names but if you want to get philosophical the human race is doomed and will become obsolete like the Neanderthal man. The Borg is a primitive science fiction concept since you will be dealing with more advance technology in the not to distant future such as nano technology, computers on the molecular level. people are only animals genetically closely related to the Ape and will continue to evolve like all thing in nature including technology. I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John =
Re: (313) massive attack/octave one
more info please! MEK Innes Macnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) massive attack/octave one 06/17/03 03:27 PM anyone heard the octave one remix of massive attack that's out at the moment? _ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
Re: (313) massive attack/octave one
from juno.co.uk-think it was out on monday. can't seem to find any reviews yet MASSIVE ATTACK: Butterfly Caught (Virgin) (MP3) - Techno double 12: Butterfly Caught (album version, Paul Daley remix, Octave One remix, Paul Daley dub, RJD2 remix instrumental, Jagz Kooner remix, Version Point Five) (VST 1853) 7 track CD single: Butterfly Caught (album version, Paul Daley remix, Octave One remix, Paul Daley dub, RJD2 remix, Jagz Kooner remix, Version Point Five, video) (VSCDT 1853) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Innes Macnee [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) massive attack/octave one Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:30:39 -0500 more info please! MEK Innes Macnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) massive attack/octave one 06/17/03 03:27 PM anyone heard the octave one remix of massive attack that's out at the moment? _ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
--- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: youre such an idiot. it really hurts my head to read your posts. haha.. what? and you keep reading and responding to my email. And your calling me an idiot. i know having no soul must suck but you dont have to keep trying to let us know what its like. tom It's like being a machine with total perfection. =
Re: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
ok guys, enough flirting :) - Original Message - From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) --- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: youre such an idiot. it really hurts my head to read your posts. haha.. what? and you keep reading and responding to my email. And your calling me an idiot. i know having no soul must suck but you dont have to keep trying to let us know what its like. tom It's like being a machine with total perfection. =
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
Quote: It's like being a machine with total perfection. --- Who just said the Borg were science fiction? They're here already! J =
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k )
No humor??? Sounds like techno-fascism. The final solution to the techno problem? True, there is a lot of noise on the list but my life would be incomplete without Theakston's jaded little witticisms. I do agree that soul and emotion are inherently limited notions that can get in the way of real aesthetic understanding. On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual or metaphysical concept. Emotion is a physical criteria of human bodies, and not something that is inside music. dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org I was talking about techno names but if you want to get philosophical the human race is doomed and will become obsolete like the Neanderthal man. The Borg is a primitive science fiction concept since you will be dealing with more advance technology in the not to distant future such as nano technology, computers on the molecular level. people are only animals genetically closely related to the Ape and will continue to evolve like all thing in nature including technology. I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John =
RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawt in k )
This isn't a technical mailing list...and its all part and parcel, the music's not isolated from any other subject/experience...that's how we experience and qualify music...in the context of our world... If the music's crunchy, then its got soul...whether the black guys wearing a lab coat or not... I can't comment on music at the moment, my oscilloscopes being fixed ... -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 9:53 a.m. To: spw; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) No humor??? Sounds like techno-fascism. The final solution to the techno problem? True, there is a lot of noise on the list but my life would be incomplete without Theakston's jaded little witticisms. I do agree that soul and emotion are inherently limited notions that can get in the way of real aesthetic understanding. On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual or metaphysical concept. Emotion is a physical criteria of human bodies, and not something that is inside music. dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) Good principles in techno label design (was Richie Hawtin k ) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org I was talking about techno names but if you want to get philosophical the human race is doomed and will become obsolete like the Neanderthal man. The Borg is a primitive science fiction concept since you will be dealing with more advance technology in the not to distant future such as nano technology, computers on the molecular level. people are only animals genetically closely related to the Ape and will continue to evolve like all thing in nature including technology. I would like to see a techno purist type mailing list where terms like soul, god, emotions, the community social structure (politics) that dominate list like 313 are not allowed, not even incidents like 9/11. Only the discussion of techno music and the expression of new ideas concerning techno, sarcasm and humor will also not be allowed your only allowed to state your opinion on a particular music item, promote your label/ project and stay focused on techno. --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quote: When it comes to techno labels as a general rule a name must have an emphasis on technology and a disassociation from human culture like the band Kraftwerk. --- ?? As a general rule there are no rules to techno. Or at least there should not be any rules. That's what sets it apart and what safeguards its evolution and progress. And 'disassociation from human culture'?? I could point you to numerous labels that care more about people than about technology. Everybody should! If you need a leading example: Jeff Mills, truly concerned with society and sociological evolutions + a will to let those ideas infiltrate his music. And maybe, just maybe, Kraftwerk were not all that 'pro' disassociation from human culture. Maybe they wanted to point it out and have people think about it. Think about both the positive and the negative aspects of the technological evolution mankind is going through. It's not because it can be done technologically that it should be done. Otherwise we'll all be running around like 'The Borg' soon. 'Resistance is futile'? NO IT'S NOT!!! John =
Re: Re[2]: (313) Richie Hawtin k
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:12:10 -0700 (PDT), spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Seriously, if you don't like my opinion kiss my ass and continue to discuss 313 record label design, it's on topic. Opinion is one thing, but tell us why you think this way. Substantiate it! -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +61(0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
RE: (313) Soul Music (was some nonsense spw was going on about)
On the other hand, Soul Music as a genre was a just a euphimism for black music, and doesn't have anything to do with soul as a spiritual or metaphysical concept. The hell it doesn't have a spiritual concept! Where the hell do you think Soul music came from? Listen to Ray Charles man, and then tell me that there isn't a spiritual side to Soul music - one of the biggest influences on Soul music was the church. All those singers - All Green, Mavis Staple, Aretha Franklin, and so many more got their start in the church. That's not to say that Soul = Gospel but there in a huge influence of Gospel on Soul. Soul music is the merging of the spiritual with the physical - that's why it's so great to dance to... it satisfies the body, mind and soul. (That's why I love the term High Tech Soul = Techno or Techno Soul) MEK
