Re: (313) LFO are back!
But LFO is no longer a duo, and hasn't been for ages. It's rediculous to expect him to rehash what he was doing over a decade ago. because it sounds better that a lot of contemporary dance music. How about using some of the same concepts bleep and bassline sound instead of 'rehashing' with out making it sound like stupid tech-house/basic channel/ micro house/ broken beat/ stupid stupid stupid. His new stuff sounds way more like Advance than anything they did as a duo, but it is also a huge leap forward from that, or the production work he's been doing in the last few years. Exceedingly complex stuff. I like the old stuff too, and think his best stuff was from the mid-'90s, as Clark, but I am still completely excited for this new album. Certainly one of the most exciting things to happen this year, and really it sounds quite different from anything I've heard to date. If this was 1985 you would say Kraftwerk Electric Cafe was a better album than Computer World. he couldn't save Depeche Modes last album which could be blamed on Depeche Mode who sounded best in the 80's. =
Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
well even the video is a bit lame, lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime I feel safe saying this even before their new albums comes out. At least they have descent taste in newer dance music and haven't tried to go the mainstream dance rout with genres like trance. My complaint isn't with Basic Channel it's just that sound has been imitated so many times with tech-house. --- MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea sure...thats all they are trying to do is sound like basic channelonce again you have made me laugh michael www.renegaderhythms.com spw wrote: Their trying to sound like Basic Channel how disappointing. That sound is almost becoming a bad cliche. --- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The video of Kraftwerk's Tour de France 03 is no online at kraftwerk.com: http://www.kraftwerk.com/video/TDF03_real.html Enjoy, Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org = =
(313) For a little gem and some good news
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RE: (313) LFO are back!
because it sounds better that a lot of contemporary dance music. To you. So that is an excuse for LFO to keep making the same tracks over and over? I don't buy it. While diehard fans might want an artist to stay in their personal favorite period (to your ears 'the best' period) forever, the vanguard artists will always want (for better or worse) to push a sound forward, especially in a genre like techno that rewards innovation. You can't freeze a musical time period and put it in a bottle and expect to keep progress at the same time. Get over it. How about using some of the same concepts bleep and bassline sound instead of 'rehashing' with out making it sound like stupid tech-house/basic channel/ micro house/broken beat/ stupid stupid stupid. Who said his new material is trying to be something else? If it doesn't sound like old LFO and you're going to be unhappy, well start get disappointed now because it probably doesn't. You could take it up with the artist, see how far you get. Ha ha The stupid labels you mention are just words that became labels for artists pushing things in different directions, thus they got named to separate or highlight them. If they didn't move in different directions, we'd all be stuck in a rut and all electronic dance music (or whatever) would sound much more similar even than it does today. Things change, morph, take in old and new influences and move where the artist wants to take things next, get over it. Techno will never go back to the way it was 10-15 years ago, nor does it need to. Peace, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) LFO are back!
-- Original Message -- From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it sounds better that a lot of contemporary dance music. How about using some of the same concepts bleep and bassline sound instead of 'rehashing' with out making it sound like stupid tech-house/basic channel/ micro house/ broken beat/ stupid stupid stupid. youre such an idiot. you talk trash on detroit music because it sticks to its guns, then you try to say LFO should stick to his. shut up. shut up. the only thing stupid about basic channel broken beat etc is you for not liking them because youre a tw*t. If this was 1985 you would say Kraftwerk Electric Cafe was a better album than Computer World. he couldn't save Depeche Modes last album which could be blamed on Depeche Mode who sounded best in the 80's. if this was 2003 i would shut up shut up shut up spw. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Bradock Discog+French House
Re: Motorbass immaculately produced French House with the funk ripping out of it- album is called Pan Soul. I remember when this came out, 1995-96 or so... really different sounding too, really stood apart from all the generic formula house flooding the market at the time, the right mix of everything. Pan Soul is filling to listen to, like a good meal! Ha ha.. BTW on Pepe Bradock, how hard is that older Kif stuff to track down? What do people consider the must-haves of the Kif material? I'll admit more than a few of the Pepe Bradock remixes I've heard have just been so-so, but his original productions I have had more success with. Of course that's completely subjective and has a bit to do with the source tracks getting remixed too... so, FWIW. Thanks, Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) LFO are back!
They can still be LFO without putting out the same old stuff On Tuesday, Jul 8, 2003, at 19:48 America/Detroit, Matthew MacQueen wrote: because it sounds better that a lot of contemporary dance music. To you. So that is an excuse for LFO to keep making the same tracks over and over? I don't buy it. While diehard fans might want an artist to stay in their personal favorite period (to your ears 'the best' period) forever, the vanguard artists will always want (for better or worse) to push a sound forward, especially in a genre like techno that rewards innovation. You can't freeze a musical time period and put it in a bottle and expect to keep progress at the same time. Get over it. How about using some of the same concepts bleep and bassline sound instead of 'rehashing' with out making it sound like stupid tech-house/basic channel/ micro house/broken beat/ stupid stupid stupid. Who said his new material is trying to be something else? If it doesn't sound like old LFO and you're going to be unhappy, well start get disappointed now because it probably doesn't. You could take it up with the artist, see how far you get. Ha ha The stupid labels you mention are just words that became labels for artists pushing things in different directions, thus they got named to separate or highlight them. If they didn't move in different directions, we'd all be stuck in a rut and all electronic dance music (or whatever) would sound much more similar even than it does today. Things change, morph, take in old and new influences and move where the artist wants to take things next, get over it. Techno will never go back to the way it was 10-15 years ago, nor does it need to. Peace, Matt MacQueen
(313) Theo Parrish - Eclectic Asthetic part II CD
I just bought this and I know as the red card insert says: Filled with minimal tech-house grooves. No artwork, No titles, Just MUSIC. but I'm curious if anyone does have a tracklisting? (don't care one way or another really as I intend on sitting back and chilling to it ASAP.) MEK
(313) some London spam.
Fresh from the Plastic People mailout / check the new website http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk Thursday 24th July Ghostly International Records Dabrye (live) / Matthew Dear James Cotton plus residents Po-Ski Werk Geektop Quartet Saturday 26th July Carl Craig Saturday 2nd August Francois K And not to forget Jane Fitz' HOUSE night @PP on Wednesday 6th August Mike Grant Cheers, Anya PS: Sorry to anyone waiting for me to email you back, will catch up soon. And still no mobile phone
Re: (313) first bass - separate minds
dang wrote on Tue, 8 Jul 2003 about following: i have it on the network 'retro techno' compilation which says its licensed from KMS, does anyone which release this appeared on? Various - Untitled (KMS) Catalog#: V.T.L. 12015 Released: 1988 B1 First Bass - Separate Mind http://www.discogs.com/release/97576 sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect.
(313) Tour de France
Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every day. I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find that quite sad... Sean.
Re: (313) Tour de France
I can see why people don't think it's that great, but it is a grower...and it does sound like Kraftwerk... I'm looking forward to the double LP. To be honest Kraftwerk's strength nowadays is their live show, which was and always will be..a Tour De Force! Toby - Original Message - From: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: (313) Tour de France Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every day. I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find that quite sad... Sean.
RE: (313) Tour de France
i think it is really good, the australians have got the yellow jersey a couple of times and... oh you mean the song dunno about that ab -Original Message- From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:33 PM To: 313 mailing list Subject: (313) Tour de France Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every day. I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find that quite sad... Sean. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Eclectic Asthetic part II CD
but I'm curious if anyone does have a tracklisting? From http://www.twoplayer.net/theo/ eclectic aesthetic part 2 01, james mason - sweet power your embrace (lp: rhythm of life) 02, herbie hancock feat. sylvester - magic number 03, stevie wonder - boogie on reggae woman 04, convertion - let¹s do it 05, people¹s choice - do it any way you wanna 06, willie hutch - slick 07, jungle wonz - the jungle 08, rahsaan patterson - it ain¹t love (lp: love in stereo) 09, carl hancock rux - intro to evolution 10, pavel kostiuk guests - brand new day (2008 black) 11, ? - can you feel mighty real 12, nature love - speak softly 13, players association - we¹re almost there (just a little bit further) 14, night moves - trans dance 15, moodyman - j.a.n. (kdj 030) 16, theo parrish - 1987 ep (sound signature 012) 17, donnie - holiday 18, theo parrish - i can take it (sound signature 010) 19, theo parrish - you forgot (sound signature 015)
Re: (313) Tour de France
I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it cheers Jason Brunton On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 10:02 am, Sean Creen wrote: Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every day. I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find that quite sad... Sean.
RE: (313) first bass - separate minds
I think 1st Bass originally came out on Express Records (EXP014): http://www.discogs.com/release/73495 The record you mention in your email is some strange KMS Italy release on clear vinyl. -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 07:33 To: dang Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) first bass - separate minds dang wrote on Tue, 8 Jul 2003 about following: i have it on the network 'retro techno' compilation which says its licensed from KMS, does anyone which release this appeared on? Various - Untitled (KMS) Catalog#: V.T.L. 12015 Released: 1988 B1 First Bass - Separate Mind http://www.discogs.com/release/97576 sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect.
RE: (313) Tour de France
But you WOULD say that! -Original Message- From: Bleep43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:16 AM To: Sean Creen; 313 mailing list Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France I can see why people don't think it's that great, but it is a grower...and it does sound like Kraftwerk... I'm looking forward to the double LP. To be honest Kraftwerk's strength nowadays is their live show, which was and always will be..a Tour De Force! Toby - Original Message - From: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: (313) Tour de France Am I the only person who is thoroughly disappointed by the new version of Tour de France? Its sounds like it could have been randomly pulled from one of the faceless piles of facile tech-house that arrive in record shops every day. I don't see any reason for this record to exist at all and I honestly find that quite sad... Sean. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) some London spam.
Sh!t - what a pleasant dilemma for the 26th - Mike Grant, Aril Brikha and Ian O'Brien at Fabric, or Carl Craig at Plastic People? Think it'll have to be Craig -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:24 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) some London spam. Fresh from the Plastic People mailout / check the new website http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk Thursday 24th July Ghostly International Records Dabrye (live) / Matthew Dear James Cotton plus residents Po-Ski Werk Geektop Quartet Saturday 26th July Carl Craig Saturday 2nd August Francois K And not to forget Jane Fitz' HOUSE night @PP on Wednesday 6th August Mike Grant Cheers, Anya PS: Sorry to anyone waiting for me to email you back, will catch up soon. And still no mobile phone # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
spw well even the video is a bit lame, you think? I think its a pretty cool vid. I'd rather watch this that a lot of the trash you get on MTV? I liked it, got a little buzz from the first time watching it. lets face it Kraftwerk are past their prime I feel safe saying this even before their new albums comes out. Bloody hell Sherlock. They're what, 55? and a pop group. I think most people not hurting for rent making music tend to get past their prime after 30 or so years in the business? Can you blame them - have they not made their contribution to history? It's fun - why not try and take a little enjoyment out of it? It's nice to hear this across the airwaves instead of S-club 7 is it not? At least they have descent taste in newer dance music and haven't tried to go the mainstream dance rout with genres like trance. Its bloody pop music. They have a large deal with a large company and have been a mainstream pop artist for quite a while. I don't see whats wrong with that? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) first bass - separate minds
It was originally released on 'express' records but there is a clear vinyl 3 track ep containing 'first bass separate minds, kevin saunderson tranzistor and k-s definition of love which was a sampler taken from techno 1. F.y.i the separate minds on express is a different mix to the one on kms. http://www.discogs.com/release/97576 On 8/7/03 11:58 pm, dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have it on the network 'retro techno' compilation which says its licensed from KMS, does anyone which release this appeared on? thanks dang
Re: (313) CARL CRAIG/L.GARNIER L'HOMMEE
does anyone know if this is going to be released in the US CARL CRAIG/L.GARNIER L'HOMMEE on sided 12 so is this the thing alex was asking about the other day, on planet e? robin...
RE: (313) Tour de France
I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it Jason Brunton I agree. To me, TDF03 is nothing short of brilliant. Two major characteristics of Kraft Werk have always been subtlety and understatement hand in hand with complexity. I always admire the obvious years of thought and effort which they seem to put into even the most miniscule part of their tracks, which (to me) seems then to raise the outcome to something like a monolith or archetype. With TDF03 - the single - that lead synth line is (to me) like auditory enlightenment, everytime you hear it, it seems to yield something different! I can't wait to hear it in full quality. I also love its sheer intelligence - I mean it's almost (ONLY ALMOST IN MY VIEW!!!) elitist. Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so brazenly simple that it seems to say, if you don't get it, f*** off! These acheivements (to me) are all the more remarkable because they maintain KW's over-30-year old principles of simplicity, acessibility and at times minimalism - but, no one can deny that the latest record is 100% 2003, and of course ahead of where the mainstream is at, as one would expect. It's also the clearest and most definitively 'techno' track which KW have ever released, to my ears. I for one am not underestimating it a bit (maybe you can tell!) All the above is natch my opinion only. k
(313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. ..
Can anyone identify the source of the vocal samples in Amp Dog Knight's - I'm Doing Fine track: Somehow, Somewhere, Someway...? Thanks in Advance
Re: (313) some London spam.
i won't be in town sadly but there's also Titonton/Future Beat alliance/Tom Churchill at Rhythm Factory this saturday night cheers dang On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:23:53 +0100, Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Fresh from the Plastic People mailout / check the new website http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk Thursday 24th July Ghostly International Records Dabrye (live) / Matthew Dear James Cotton plus residents Po-Ski Werk Geektop Quartet Saturday 26th July Carl Craig Saturday 2nd August Francois K And not to forget Jane Fitz' HOUSE night @PP on Wednesday 6th August Mike Grant Cheers, Anya PS: Sorry to anyone waiting for me to email you back, will catch up soon. And still no mobile phone -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?
RE: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. . .
Is It Because I'm Black - Syl Johnson -Original Message- From: Mario Atienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 11:37 To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. .. Can anyone identify the source of the vocal samples in Amp Dog Knight's - I'm Doing Fine track: Somehow, Somewhere, Someway...? Thanks in Advance . --- Information in this email may be privileged, confidential and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your system. You should not reproduce, distribute, store, retransmit, use or disclose its contents to anyone. Please note we reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communication through our internal and external networks. ---
RE: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. . .
if you wish to here a longer sample of this syl johnson song, check deep sensation, somehow, somewhere[there's a soul heaven]. it's a classic deep-disco house track. catalogue #GDR-40 -Original Message- From: Allday, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:18 AM To: 'Mario Atienza'; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. . . Is It Because I'm Black - Syl Johnson -Original Message- From: Mario Atienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 11:37 To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. .. Can anyone identify the source of the vocal samples in Amp Dog Knight's - I'm Doing Fine track: Somehow, Somewhere, Someway...? Thanks in Advance . --- Information in this email may be privileged, confidential and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your system. You should not reproduce, distribute, store, retransmit, use or disclose its contents to anyone. Please note we reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communication through our internal and external networks. ---
(313) A new Live Techno Mix :)
Ok well its been a while but I have a new Live mix and its more what I call party Techno :) Its taken from a Wednesday residency in Hamburg. I hope you like it but it is party techno :) Check the Tracklist. Thanks to both Dennis and Robin who have let me use their servers, yahoo! so if you in the states then I guess you'll want this server: www.datavibe.net/~ddonohue/kube72/kube.html and if your from the UK then this one : http://grover.mvc.mcc.ac.uk/mixes/kube72_live_at_the_rubin_club_hamburg_0406 03.rmj Thanks :))) and I hope to see you all (UK) for the Aug Bleep party :))) Ian User-User001A Igancio-Humana A Mclauchlan-Love Story Destination-Defination of Love Mr G and G Flame Remix A Richley R Rivera-Peace Of Mind Symbolism-001 Bryan Zentz-Watch the Sun Gaetek-Pain023 Killabite2 -Untitled Killabite - Rue East-We R Thru Tomaz Filterheadz-Lazy People Cave-Tribal War Rue East-A Truckers Tan Kryptonite-Part 2 Emote Remix Gary Martin-Subterranean Substance Deetron Mix Cave-Street Carnival Richie Hawtin-Orange Deetron-Alien Data Samuel L Presents-CentrFrique Hardgroove-Untitled Adverse Match-No Crap Vince Watson-Inversions Emote Jeff Mills-LB Ben Sims-Oblivion Jeff Mills-Call of the Wild Ben Sims-The Dubs Marco Carola-Question 8 Ladida-Bullet 2 Marco Carola-Question 9 Argoria-Radio City Robert Hood-Psychic Pole Position --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
Re: (313) some London spam.
i won't be in town sadly but there's also Titonton/Future Beat alliance/Tom Churchill at Rhythm Factory this saturday night Indeed - thanks for mentioning it - info at http://www.symetrik.co.uk Any 313-ers coming along? Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) A new Live Techno Mix :)
or better yet go to: htpp://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra the mix and tracklisting are available there. cheers robin... Ok well its been a while but I have a new Live mix and its more what I call party Techno :) Its taken from a Wednesday residency in Hamburg. I hope you like it but it is party techno :) Check the Tracklist. Thanks to both Dennis and Robin who have let me use their servers, yahoo! so if you in the states then I guess you'll want this server: www.datavibe.net/~ddonohue/kube72/kube.html and if your from the UK then this one : http://grover.mvc.mcc.ac.uk/mixes/kube72_live_at_the_rubin_club_hamburg_0406 03.rmj Thanks :))) and I hope to see you all (UK) for the Aug Bleep party :))) Ian User-User001A Igancio-Humana A Mclauchlan-Love Story Destination-Defination of Love Mr G and G Flame Remix A Richley R Rivera-Peace Of Mind Symbolism-001 Bryan Zentz-Watch the Sun Gaetek-Pain023 Killabite2 -Untitled Killabite - Rue East-We R Thru Tomaz Filterheadz-Lazy People Cave-Tribal War Rue East-A Truckers Tan Kryptonite-Part 2 Emote Remix Gary Martin-Subterranean Substance Deetron Mix Cave-Street Carnival Richie Hawtin-Orange Deetron-Alien Data Samuel L Presents-CentrFrique Hardgroove-Untitled Adverse Match-No Crap Vince Watson-Inversions Emote Jeff Mills-LB Ben Sims-Oblivion Jeff Mills-Call of the Wild Ben Sims-The Dubs Marco Carola-Question 8 Ladida-Bullet 2 Marco Carola-Question 9 Argoria-Radio City Robert Hood-Psychic Pole Position --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.sve.man.ac.uk---
(313) Rich/Magda Set Online
from ps1 this past weekend in NYC. Magda plays the first couple of hours and Rich plays the rest.. http://www.ps1.org/cut/warmup2003/main.html -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
RE: (313) A new Live Techno Mix :)
Cheers Ian and Robin - that's going in the MD :-) k -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:48 PM To: ian cheshire Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) A new Live Techno Mix :) or better yet go to: htpp://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra the mix and tracklisting are available there. cheers robin... Ok well its been a while but I have a new Live mix and its more what I call party Techno :) Its taken from a Wednesday residency in Hamburg. I hope you like it but it is party techno :) Check the Tracklist. Thanks to both Dennis and Robin who have let me use their servers, yahoo! so if you in the states then I guess you'll want this server: www.datavibe.net/~ddonohue/kube72/kube.html and if your from the UK then this one : http://grover.mvc.mcc.ac.uk/mixes/kube72_live_at_the_rubin_club_ham burg_0406 03.rmj Thanks :))) and I hope to see you all (UK) for the Aug Bleep party :))) Ian User-User001A Igancio-Humana A Mclauchlan-Love Story Destination-Defination of Love Mr G and G Flame Remix A Richley R Rivera-Peace Of Mind Symbolism-001 Bryan Zentz-Watch the Sun Gaetek-Pain023 Killabite2 -Untitled Killabite - Rue East-We R Thru Tomaz Filterheadz-Lazy People Cave-Tribal War Rue East-A Truckers Tan Kryptonite-Part 2 Emote Remix Gary Martin-Subterranean Substance Deetron Mix Cave-Street Carnival Richie Hawtin-Orange Deetron-Alien Data Samuel L Presents-CentrFrique Hardgroove-Untitled Adverse Match-No Crap Vince Watson-Inversions Emote Jeff Mills-LB Ben Sims-Oblivion Jeff Mills-Call of the Wild Ben Sims-The Dubs Marco Carola-Question 8 Ladida-Bullet 2 Marco Carola-Question 9 Argoria-Radio City Robert Hood-Psychic Pole Position --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.sve.man.ac.uk---
RE: (313) A new Live Techno Mix :)
:))) -Original Message- From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 14:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A new Live Techno Mix :) or better yet go to: htpp://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra make that http://people.man.ac.uk/~zzcgurp/extra one of _those_ days :) robin... Ok well its been a while but I have a new Live mix and its more what I call party Techno :) Its taken from a Wednesday residency in Hamburg. I hope you like it but it is party techno :) Check the Tracklist. Thanks to both Dennis and Robin who have let me use their servers, yahoo! so if you in the states then I guess you'll want this server: www.datavibe.net/~ddonohue/kube72/kube.html and if your from the UK then this one : http://grover.mvc.mcc.ac.uk/mixes/kube72_live_at_the_rubin_club_hamburg_0406 03.rmj Thanks :))) and I hope to see you all (UK) for the Aug Bleep party :))) Ian User-User001A Igancio-Humana A Mclauchlan-Love Story Destination-Defination of Love Mr G and G Flame Remix A Richley R Rivera-Peace Of Mind Symbolism-001 Bryan Zentz-Watch the Sun Gaetek-Pain023 Killabite2 -Untitled Killabite - Rue East-We R Thru Tomaz Filterheadz-Lazy People Cave-Tribal War Rue East-A Truckers Tan Kryptonite-Part 2 Emote Remix Gary Martin-Subterranean Substance Deetron Mix Cave-Street Carnival Richie Hawtin-Orange Deetron-Alien Data Samuel L Presents-CentrFrique Hardgroove-Untitled Adverse Match-No Crap Vince Watson-Inversions Emote Jeff Mills-LB Ben Sims-Oblivion Jeff Mills-Call of the Wild Ben Sims-The Dubs Marco Carola-Question 8 Ladida-Bullet 2 Marco Carola-Question 9 Argoria-Radio City Robert Hood-Psychic Pole Position --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.sve.man.ac.uk--- robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.sve.man.ac.uk--- --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
(313) Curse in Detroit Friday/Danish Invasion
*** Third Street, Friday July 11th - Danish Invasion Curse (Thinner/Armalyte/Bipolar/Aabtek) Denmark Christian Bloch (Yeah, you know by now) Denmark Mike Perry Not so much from Denmark, but friends with a Dane I hear Greg Mudge Also not so Danish, but drinks as if he were *** See ya there...
(313) track i.d.
Can anyone identify the following track? It was the third track that Christian Vogel played in his first set at Sonar 2003, which can be heard from the Sonar website. The refrain goes like this: I feel as though I'm falling I just wanna cry Just help me along To where I belong Where I'm safe and sound .making music thanks, r
(313) A ghostly bootay self promotion
We've got a review of Ghostly International's Idol Tryouts up: http://www.selekta.com/content/templates/music_reviews_template.asp?articleid=313zoneid=15 Disco D's A Night at the Bootybar (not sure if I already posted this to the list ): http://www.selekta.com/content/templates/music_reviews_template.asp?articleid=308zoneid=15 check us outs yo. taTA! d __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
(313) Magda London UK
Haywire take control in Fabric [room 2] this Saturday SATURDAY 12th JULY 22:00 - 02:00 MAGDA [Minus] 02:00 - 03:00 STEPHEN BROWN [Transmat] 03:00 - 06:00 PERCY X [Soma] more info : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.haywire.co.uk www.fabriclondon.com
RE: (313) track i.d.
Someone please help out on this track, I must know what this is as well ;)!!! Here's the sonar online link - http://sonar.emisiondigital.com/ingles/ -Pete -Original Message- From: rebekah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:53 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) track i.d. Can anyone identify the following track? It was the third track that Christian Vogel played in his first set at Sonar 2003, which can be heard from the Sonar website. The refrain goes like this: I feel as though I'm falling I just wanna cry Just help me along To where I belong Where I'm safe and sound .making music thanks, r
RE: (313) Magda London UK
ohh bugger! you see another night missed because I am away:(( I really like Percy X and would love to hear Mr Brown :( you lucky people, enjoy !! -Original Message- From: Amanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Magda London UK Haywire take control in Fabric [room 2] this Saturday SATURDAY 12th JULY 22:00 - 02:00 MAGDA [Minus] 02:00 - 03:00 STEPHEN BROWN [Transmat] 03:00 - 06:00 PERCY X [Soma] more info : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.haywire.co.uk www.fabriclondon.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
RE: (313) Magda London UK
sorry I wasn't trying to leave out Magda on purpose as I felt there was no need to state the obvious :) -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 17:04 To: Amanda; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Magda London UK ohh bugger! you see another night missed because I am away:(( I really like Percy X and would love to hear Mr Brown :( you lucky people, enjoy !! -Original Message- From: Amanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Magda London UK Haywire take control in Fabric [room 2] this Saturday SATURDAY 12th JULY 22:00 - 02:00 MAGDA [Minus] 02:00 - 03:00 STEPHEN BROWN [Transmat] 03:00 - 06:00 PERCY X [Soma] more info : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.haywire.co.uk www.fabriclondon.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
Re: (313) CARL CRAIG/L.GARNIER L'HOMMEE
yeah. i cant find it anywhere in the us. anyone have info on it? ryan burns From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone know if this is going to be released in the US CARL CRAIG/L.GARNIER L'HOMMEE on sided 12 so is this the thing alex was asking about the other day, on planet e? robin... _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) Tour de France
Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so brazenly simple that it seems to say, if you don't get it, f*** off! Much like today's road racing bicycle - compare a road bike (and therefore the Tour) today to what was available when the original track was made and you'll get inside the track a bit more (no pun intended) remember Ralf and Florian and serious bicyclists - maybe I'm wrong, but I would think that they put some thought into how the song should be updated and, if they did, my guess would be that they reflected on how the music should take on the characteristics of today's racing bicycle (just like they did with the original song). To me it sounds just like Campy (as in Campagnolo) gears working just as they should - smth, slick, and effortless - and looking damn good while doing it. so - who has TdF03 available for sale online? MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org ones.comcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/03 05:02 AMSubject: RE: (313) Tour de France I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it Jason Brunton I agree. To me, TDF03 is nothing short of brilliant. Two major characteristics of Kraft Werk have always been subtlety and understatement hand in hand with complexity. I always admire the obvious years of thought and effort which they seem to put into even the most miniscule part of their tracks, which (to me) seems then to raise the outcome to something like a monolith or archetype. With TDF03 - the single - that lead synth line is (to me) like auditory enlightenment, everytime you hear it, it seems to yield something different! I can't wait to hear it in full quality. I also love its sheer intelligence - I mean it's almost (ONLY ALMOST IN MY VIEW!!!) elitist. Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so brazenly simple that it seems to say, if you don't get it, f*** off! These acheivements (to me) are all the more remarkable because they maintain KW's over-30-year old principles of simplicity, acessibility and at times minimalism - but, no one can deny that the latest record is 100% 2003, and of course ahead of where the mainstream is at, as one would expect. It's also the clearest and most definitively 'techno' track which KW have ever released, to my ears. I for one am not underestimating it a bit (maybe you can tell!) All the above is natch my opinion only. k
RE: (313) Tour de France
remember Ralf and Florian and serious bicyclists oops, that's supposed to read: remember Ralf and Florian ARE serious bicyclists MEK Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/03 11:26 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Tour de France Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so brazenly simple that it seems to say, if you don't get it, f*** off! Much like today's road racing bicycle - compare a road bike (and therefore the Tour) today to what was available when the original track was made and you'll get inside the track a bit more (no pun intended) remember Ralf and Florian and serious bicyclists - maybe I'm wrong, but I would think that they put some thought into how the song should be updated and, if they did, my guess would be that they reflected on how the music should take on the characteristics of today's racing bicycle (just like they did with the original song). To me it sounds just like Campy (as in Campagnolo) gears working just as they should - smth, slick, and effortless - and looking damn good while doing it. so - who has TdF03 available for sale online? MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org ones.comcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/03 05:02 AMSubject: RE: (313) Tour de France I know what you mean- there are three tracks/mixes on the 12 though and two of them are definitely growing on me- I remember how disappointed I was the first time I heard Expo 2000 and now I love it Jason Brunton I agree. To me, TDF03 is nothing short of brilliant. Two major characteristics of Kraft Werk have always been subtlety and understatement hand in hand with complexity. I always admire the obvious years of thought and effort which they seem to put into even the most miniscule part of their tracks, which (to me) seems then to raise the outcome to something like a monolith or archetype. With TDF03 - the single - that lead synth line is (to me) like auditory enlightenment, everytime you hear it, it seems to yield something different! I can't wait to hear it in full quality. I also love its sheer intelligence - I mean it's almost (ONLY ALMOST IN MY VIEW!!!) elitist. Basically, I see this in the fact that it's so brazenly simple that it seems to say, if you don't get it, f*** off! These acheivements (to me) are all the more remarkable because they maintain KW's over-30-year old principles of simplicity, acessibility and at times minimalism - but, no one can deny that the latest record is 100% 2003, and of course ahead of where the mainstream is at, as one would expect. It's also the clearest and most definitively 'techno' track which KW have ever released, to my ears. I for one am not underestimating it a bit (maybe you can tell!) All the above is natch my opinion only. k
Re: (313) track i.d.
I've just asked Christian for you, answer to follow 9/7/03 3:53 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone identify the following track? It was the third track that Christian Vogel played in his first set at Sonar 2003, which can be heard from the Sonar website. The refrain goes like this: I feel as though I'm falling I just wanna cry Just help me along To where I belong Where I'm safe and sound .making music thanks, r
(313) Barry White RIP 7/4/03
I didn't see any mention of this on the list http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3046650.stm http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/06/remembering.white.ap/index.html
Re: (313) some London spam.
Don't forget Recloose at Cargo on Sunday, night runs from 7-12pm. See ya Sat Tom! - Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 09 July 2003 14:41 Subject: Re: (313) some London spam. i won't be in town sadly but there's also Titonton/Future Beat alliance/Tom Churchill at Rhythm Factory this saturday night Indeed - thanks for mentioning it - info at http://www.symetrik.co.uk Any 313-ers coming along? Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) Barry White RIP 7/4/03
yeah I read this on the plane at the wknd, very sad I have to say but I didn't realise how ill he was. whats really sad is the feuds between his women he has left behind. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 17:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Barry White RIP 7/4/03 I didn't see any mention of this on the list http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3046650.stm http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/06/remembering.white.ap/index.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/03
(313) nite:life 017 Rolando
Anyone else excited about this? Due out in October. This should be a good comp... nite:life goes to Detroit 017 - Rolando copied from www.nrkmusic.com/ It is with great pleasure that we announce that our nite:life mix series takes the long route to the Motor City of Detroit, a city that has innovated so much great electronic music over the years. nite:life 017 lands in the hands of Rolando, a DJ and producer who has made his mark over the last few years with some groundbreaking records and awesome DJ sets. With his Los Hermanos label still in its infancy, yet with the stunning 'Quetzal', 'Birth Of 3000' and 'Tres' under its belt, his genre bending 'Knights Of The Jaguar' project for UR and a relentless DJ schedule, we expect Rolando to deliver a fine mix reflective of his influences of electro, deep house and all areas in between. /copied from www.nrkmusic.com Mike Long www.subsynth.net
(313) a personal request
If someone on 313 who knows me and knows Rich Hawtin's UK mobile # could privately email it to me, that'd be great. I had it but lost it and he's coming to Dublin this weekend and we're supposed to hook up. Thanks.
Re: (313) Bradock Discog+French House
- Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ::P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:09 AM Subject: RE: (313) Bradock Discog+French House Re: Motorbass immaculately produced French House with the funk ripping out of it- album is called Pan Soul. I remember when this came out, 1995-96 or so... really different sounding too, really stood apart from all the generic formula house flooding the market at the time, the right mix of everything. Pan Soul is filling to listen to, like a good meal! Ha ha.. Yeah. Third this recommendation. It really has a unique flavor. Harps, scratching, many things you didn' texpect to hear in deep house. But then we mustn't forget these are some of the same folks who brought us La Funk Mob and The Mighty Bop (BTW - anyone else feeling those recent Herbert remixes of the Mighty Bop? - nice). BTW on Pepe Bradock, how hard is that older Kif stuff to track down? What do people consider the must-haves of the Kif material? Un Pepe En Or Vol. 2, 12 (Kif) is good for one track that is not much more than a disco loop, but an excelleent loop at that. Not realy the most captivating of his records though. Of his earlier stuff I liked his releases as Trankilou - Escalope De Dingue EP on Kif and the St Glin-Glin EP on BPM Records (although I find something a bit infuriating about this one). I'll admit more than a few of the Pepe Bradock remixes I've heard have just been so-so, but his original productions I have had more success with. Of course that's completely subjective and has a bit to do with the source tracks getting remixed too... so, FWIW. Yeah, my take is completely the opposite. I think he's more skilled with other people's stuff, and his own greatest successes have been the ones that rely most heavilly on full-blown loops rather than snips. But, to each his own, as they say. :) Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) nite:life 017 Rolando
Michael Long wrote: Anyone else excited about this? Due out in October. This should be a good comp... nite:life goes to Detroit 017 - Rolando copied from www.nrkmusic.com/ It is with great pleasure that we announce that our nite:life mix series takes the long route to the Motor City of Detroit, a city that has innovated so much great electronic music over the years. nite:life 017 lands in the hands of Rolando, a DJ and producer who has made his mark over the last few years with some groundbreaking records and awesome DJ sets. With his Los Hermanos label still in its infancy, yet with the stunning 'Quetzal', 'Birth Of 3000' and 'Tres' under its belt, his genre bending 'Knights Of The Jaguar' project for UR and a relentless DJ schedule, we expect Rolando to deliver a fine mix reflective of his influences of electro, deep house and all areas in between. /copied from www.nrkmusic.com really excited about this .. i saw him at the detroit vs miami bbq and he played some really great music and was a great down to earth person as well. I need to pick up 'Tres' still. :) Regards, Ramon Mike Long www.subsynth.net
(313) 313 Weekend (slightly OT)
A few interesting looking events this weekend in Motor City - although neither are exactly 313-ish. Friday night Barry Andrews (XTC, Shriekback) does 2 sets (1st one cabaret piano, the second as his new act - the name of which I cannot recall, but it has the word stick in it :-) at The Buddah Bar on 8 Mile just east of Lahser (Detroit side of the street). There's also the Concert Of Colors which looks really cool - Natcha Atlas among many other diverse artists from all over the globe (and here) : http://www.accesscommunity.org/index.cfm?location=100subsectionid=91 jeff
(313) ID
howdy peeps i recently saw a strange looking record. it had a mostly black cover with a low quality photo of a couple of guys. i *think* it was called 'death disco', or something very similar (it was not the PIL record) it had very little info on the back and i think it was 4 tracks. it looked old kinda home made but it coulda been new. couldn't listen to it in the shop dammit. it looked cool. anyone know what this is? thanx a bunch. i hope the new LFO is nice not ugly like advance, except for ultraschall and loch ness, very pretty . the first 3 or 4 tracks on frequencies are truly wonderful. oh yeah - genre alert - i saw a new comp described as NEGROCLASH p-dogg
