(313) new der zylkus
hey folks- Just listened to the new der zyklus *teaser* at Formic website. Im not feeling those tracks at all. But if you like your other zyklus records as much as I do, you will probably want to listen anyway. Has anybody heard the new album in its entirety? Has any of their older material found its way on the new album? In that case I would certainly give it a listen.Im crossing my fingers, but Im not to pleased from what I've heard.
RE: (313) LD/313 Party Pics
-Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2004 13:56 Who dat sporting the record collector tee??? thats like 5 blocks from my house. I believe that's former Iowa City resident Tristan Watkins. you london kids are a damn strange bunch What do you mean by this? Brendan
(313) RE: do not hate on discogs
Excuse me for making another flippant comment which got taken way too seriously - I only meant it was sh!t in as far as inputting info and corrrecting misinformation - it's obviously a great resource. No need to attack me personally - if you don't like my style, press delete -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:20 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: do not hate on discogs Pardon me Mr. taylor, but I dont see how somebody who spams the list daily with one or two quick sentences of over-simplified arrogant generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website sh!t. Im just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it necissary to besmirch their name. Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past. I can only recollect a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information libraries. And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty information about Basic Channel? I consider myself a fairly well informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself. On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs
How about doing us all a favour Robert and pressing 'delete' before you send your ill-considered rude and sarcastic comments in the first place? Doesn't that apeal to your superior logical consistency which you are so determined to exercise on the foibles of er, an ***internet eamil list about techno music!*** How erudite! The professorship is coming! In person you are such a nice bloke. But on line ytou ain't half a twat, I can tell you. Good day, Ken -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:28 AM To: jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs Excuse me for making another flippant comment which got taken way too seriously - I only meant it was sh!t in as far as inputting info and corrrecting misinformation - it's obviously a great resource. No need to attack me personally - if you don't like my style, press delete -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:20 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: do not hate on discogs Pardon me Mr. taylor, but I dont see how somebody who spams the list daily with one or two quick sentences of over-simplified arrogant generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website sh!t. Im just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it necissary to besmirch their name. Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past. I can only recollect a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information libraries. And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty information about Basic Channel? I consider myself a fairly well informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself. On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies. ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
(313) convextion
anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
(313) acid thunder party - sat 14 aug!
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Re: (313) convextion
How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs
hang on hang on hang on Ken and evryone, w there :) I for one get hounded for my emails that I send to my friends, the reason is that when I write my emails as we all do, I tend to speak it out in my head as I would if I was speaking to them in person but email never ever conveys this and so everyone reads the email in their own style. So a sacarstic email unless read in a sacarstic manner will be read in the manner of the person at that time ,same with a serious email, sometimes if I am in a comical mood I can mis-read them... this sadly is a problem on emails, it will never go away so lets be too jumpy,surley there are other things to worry about :) your humbly Ian -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 10/08/2004 09:38 To: Robert Taylor; jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs How about doing us all a favour Robert and pressing 'delete' before you send your ill-considered rude and sarcastic comments in the first place? Doesn't that apeal to your superior logical consistency which you are so determined to exercise on the foibles of er, an ***internet eamil list about techno music!*** How erudite! The professorship is coming! In person you are such a nice bloke. But on line ytou ain't half a twat, I can tell you. Good day, Ken -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:28 AM To: jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs Excuse me for making another flippant comment which got taken way too seriously - I only meant it was sh!t in as far as inputting info and corrrecting misinformation - it's obviously a great resource. No need to attack me personally - if you don't like my style, press delete -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:20 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: do not hate on discogs Pardon me Mr. taylor, but I dont see how somebody who spams the list daily with one or two quick sentences of over-simplified arrogant generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website sh!t. Im just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it necissary to besmirch their name. Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past. I can only recollect a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information libraries. And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty information about Basic Channel? I consider myself a fairly well informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself. On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies. ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) convextion
I personally wouldn't download an mp3 of an LP which hasn't even been officially released yet. But then any mp3s I have ever dled have been at the sanction of the artist or they were the only form the track was in. So I guess I'm a puritan and you should discount my views completely! k -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:43 AM To: mislav bobic Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) convextion How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
Re: (313) convextion
I dont think Mislav was asking to download it Martin (I could be worng). He is correct in that it was floating about on P2P a while ago (Check the LD archives ;-)) then either JT or Minto came onto the thread and asked if the sharing could be stopped and it was. (No I dont have it before anyone asks) I think it was just a simple request about release date info which is not an unusual post at all. Cheers BT --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
RE: (313) convextion
Guys, I wasn't asking for mp3 or address where I can download it and then never buy it. I just wanted to know if anyone who heard it would share their impression. Or could tell when it should be officially out. Think that this mp3 download, paid/not paid /pirates/sailors etc... issue has been discussed over and over too many times if u ask me Take care mislav -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:43 PM To: mislav bobic Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) convextion How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
Re: (313) convextion
I wasn't having a pop and I may be wrong, but I pretty good at being wrong ;) I also can't check ever single thread on LD - I find that it pretty much looks after itself. I was more interested in peoples views, I know that I buy more records when I hear something in a mix but I do refuse to download stuff that hasn't be cleared. My history is in Typeface design and the amount of times I've seen my work used by people who I know haven't bought the typeface really kills me sometimes, although it's great to see my work used by Bowie, B12 and even Shaggy!!! I look at the returns of spending 300hrs working on something and wonder why sometimes. Ken, Rob's just grumpy sometimes ;) Martin... On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:56, David Beattie wrote: I dont think Mislav was asking to download it Martin (I could be worng). He is correct in that it was floating about on P2P a while ago (Check the LD archives ;-)) then either JT or Minto came onto the thread and asked if the sharing could be stopped and it was. (No I dont have it before anyone asks) I think it was just a simple request about release date info which is not an unusual post at all. Cheers BT --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
RE: (313) convextion
can't wait to hear this. regarding p2p file sharing of unreleased material, i don't condone people stealing other peoples' material. but at the same time, i believe i have the freedom to download material because i only play vinyl and will ultimately have to buy the record anyway. i know the titles i will buy when they come out, and may want a listen before shopping. also, a bit of laziness when it comes to encoding vinyl contributes to my support of sharing music on p2ps.
Re: (313) convextion
mislav -- the next convextion release (dLvext2) is a 12 as E.R.P. (his electro/techno aka, last seen on sean d's original matrix label) and should be out late september/early october. we're also hoping to release the convextion album before the end of the year. if you go to the (really out of date) dL website, there are some previews if you go to the audio page and click the little logo that says upcoming, and also an e.r.p. loop playing on the contact page. site should be updated soon, sorry... dave -- that's true about the thread on LD, tristan was nice enough to point it out to us. we don't mind when our stuff ends up on p2p after it's been released, but in this case, someone actually hacked our server (our own fault for leaving an easy backdoor) and stole the files and put them on p2p. it was 3 cd's worth of music, most of which will not even be on the album/released -- but gerard did not want it made public in any case. no biggie tho. i doubt many people even got ahold of it. re mp3 consumption, i completely agree with ani. i download mp3's and i make buying decisions based on what i download. i still end up blowing all my spare change on records whenever i can. it's also usually hard to find mp3's of new records until months after they are released (if at all), unless it is something more popular. so unless you're really patient, it's still easier to just buy the record if it's something you really want. album rips are easier to find, but many labels have done a smart thing and release their own albums onto p2p, in either low quality, or special edits, or with annoying voice-over promo in every song. they beat mp3 groupz to the punch and before you know it the p2p-tailored versions propagate like mad and are all you can find -- this was the case with kerrier district, amp fiddler, and lots of hiphop i check out in mp3. good strategy i think, and we might do it with the connection machine and convextion albums in a bit. also btw there have been several reports out this year, i think one australian, one from harvard, and one from unc, that cast serious doubt on the assumption that mp3's hurt cd sales. i'm not really sure how that translates to dj music (vinyl), but somehow i don't think ableton etc has made vinyl any more obselete...buyers are still out there, it's just a tougher competition for their wallets/pocketbooks blah blah! jt -Original Message- From: David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 10, 2004 6:56 AM To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) convextion I dont think Mislav was asking to download it Martin (I could be worng). He is correct in that it was floating about on P2P a while ago (Check the LD archives ;-)) then either JT or Minto came onto the thread and asked if the sharing could be stopped and it was. (No I dont have it before anyone asks) I think it was just a simple request about release date info which is not an unusual post at all. Cheers BT --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
Re: (313) convextion
Martin, Not to belabor the point, but I think your original judgement was a bit harsh. You are just wrong that people don't use mp3s to find releases to look for in the store. I do that. If I have heard the mp3 and liked it, I'm much more likely to buy the vinyl. If we take the downlow release for example, I know it is run by list members. I certainly wouldn't want to cut into their business and I know things are tight. HOWEVER, I don't recall if I've ever heard Convextion, and there's not much chance I'll see it in the local record store. The best promo they could do for their release would be let me hear an mp3 of the record, as I will seek it out if I really like it. If I don't hear it, how am I going to know that I want to buy it? The only other possibility would be getting the release on some kind of radio where I might listen and say what was that?! and be on the lookout to purchase. Somehow, the independent label has to connect with ME (not me personally but as an interested music consumer), so that I know what is out there that sounds good that I want to buy! ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) convextion Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:06:45 +0100 From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wasn't having a pop and I may be wrong, but I pretty good at being wrong ;) I also can't check ever single thread on LD - I find that it pretty much looks after itself. I was more interested in peoples views, I know that I buy more records when I hear something in a mix but I do refuse to download stuff that hasn't be cleared. My history is in Typeface design and the amount of times I've seen my work used by people who I know haven't bought the typeface really kills me sometimes, although it's great to see my work used by Bowie, B12 and even Shaggy!!! I look at the returns of spending 300hrs working on something and wonder why sometimes. Ken, Rob's just grumpy sometimes ;) Martin... On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:56, David Beattie wrote: I dont think Mislav was asking to download it Martin (I could be worng). He is correct in that it was floating about on P2P a while ago (Check the LD archives ;-)) then either JT or Minto came onto the thread and asked if the sharing could be stopped and it was. (No I dont have it before anyone asks) I think it was just a simple request about release date info which is not an unusual post at all. Cheers BT --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
(313) P2P
i agree with ani below. thing is though if you want these tracks for playing out, or whatever, mp3s (unless the very minimum of 192k, and even then) just won't cut it. it has to be be a full wav/aiff. and do you trust th person who ripped it to do a good job of recording it in? (uness ripped off cd of course) i view the p2p dl's as just a way of hearing a full preview of the material really (like you can do on any record store but with short low quality clips). once heard an you like, buy it. the dl'ing of stuff off p2ps of underground labels is basically stealing. i know i know i've heard all the arguments about how this shti should be free etc etc. but we aren't talking huge record conglomerates here (dl'ing the latest missy elliot cd is a far cry from dl'ing a downlow release). in terms of underground labels we are talking people like us just scraping together cash to get a run of 500 records out. sometimes selling parts of prized record collections on ebay to do so. to steal off people like that is wrong and will be to the detriment of our scene. ok, i've gone off on one there where it praps wasn't necessary but i wanted to get that off my chest. i am not saying that p2ps are wrong or anything like that (though replace missy elliot with cubase and downlow with ableton and you have my views on cracked software) but i think people if they dl the latest underground release off a small label and they like it and play it then they are obliged to buy really. sharing of mixes etc on p2p (unless it's a proper release off a cd) is ok tho and is what i use p2ps for when i do. robin... can't wait to hear this. regarding p2p file sharing of unreleased material, i don't condone people stealing other peoples' material. but at the same time, i believe i have the freedom to download material because i only play vinyl and will ultimately have to buy the record anyway. i know the titles i will buy when they come out, and may want a listen before shopping. also, a bit of laziness when it comes to encoding vinyl contributes to my support of sharing music on p2ps.
Re: (313) convextion
You need to accept that you and I aren't everyone - you really can't speak from the perspective of one on this because the facts are very, very different, I've just watched a friends album hit the P2P and that fact that he's got 10,000 D/L's from one site alone does kinda please him but it doesn't feed the baby and his sales haven't gone up - the halcyon days are over. I think you'll find that this is now the norm, sadly. I've been trying to think of a good MP3 model for our label for months Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 16:33, David Powers wrote: Martin, Not to belabor the point, but I think your original judgement was a bit harsh. You are just wrong that people don't use mp3s to find releases to look for in the store. I do that. If I have heard the mp3 and liked it, I'm much more likely to buy the vinyl.
(313) Saturday in Chicago
saturday, august 14th atomiq records and the opaque project present: OPAQUE VS NEW YORK JIMMY EDGAR | warp/opaque | detroit - have you ever seen a girl throw her panties at a 303? neither had we. this warp records recording artist will be dropping a special acid house live pa. MARCOS CABRAL | trapez | nyc - from trapez records (home of akufen, run by rrr, sub-label of traum) comes this minimal acid producer. rockin like kropotkin. COWBOY MARK | the crucial get down | nyc - on a steel horse he rides. GIBBY | makeoutclub | nyc - he's not only the makeoutclub president, he's also a client. the dude started makeoutclub... can you say knee-deep in indie rock ass? yeah, we thought you could. ATOMLY | atomiq/opaque | chicago - i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. i'm losing control. JOHNNY LOVE | opaque | chicago - the don juan of disco. johnny love will save your life and/or steal your girlfriend. @ MARIPOSA GALLERY 346 n justine, chicago 10pm / $5 / all ages / BYOB -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) convextion
just to serve as another data point. i absolutely do buy records after I've downloaded the mp3. if i download it and listen to it once or twice i don't buy it. if i listen to it a bunch i really do want to track it down. the local shops here in san francisco don't really stock the deep techno, and i'm not usually satisfied with a the 20 sec needle drop sample, so getting to listen to the mp3s while I work is the best way for me to find the stuff I love. --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people feel about request like this? I'm certainly not against mix mp3's but requests for LP's is a bit rich and considering the state we are in do you feel that it's fair to deny small label and artist the money they need to continue? I believe the days where people downloaded and then went and bought the product have long gone, now people just consume now. What are your feelings on this? Martin On 10 Aug 2004, at 11:20, mislav bobic wrote: anybody has any news about convextion's new lp ? guys from downlow maybe ?? I remember someone said that some new material was floating around on p2p. any info would be great ! thanks mislav
(313) nite grooves house mix
nite grooves recorded by Deviant (aka Mark Warden, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) somewhere in London in 1998 t 72:16 stream (real audio): http://www.morthenkiang.com/mixes/deviant-nite_grooves.ram download (mp3): http://datavibe.net/~mkiang/deviant-nite_grooves.mp3 or access directly from: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html 01) naomi daniel - feel the fire (chez d' trent dub) [ planet e ] 02) fruit loops - the message is love [ definitive ] 03) the r.a.s.e - get on up [ strobe ] 04) paul johnson - aww sh*t [ relief ] 05) gene farris - cosmic coast [ force inc. music works ] 06) the hayden andre project - tribal life (original hardcore tribal mix) [ strobe ] 07) qx-1 - love injection (eddie's answer mix) [ rhythm beat ] 08) infra-red - love honey [ strobe ] 09) roy davis jr - i´m hungry [ sex trax ] 10) rené et gaston - quel casse-tête! [ fresh fruit ] 11) infra-red - the verge [ strobe ] 12) basement jaxx - samba magic [ atlantic jaxx ] 13) mark the 909 king, roy davis jr. trackman - the power [ dj exclusive ] 14) terry lee brown jr. - here we go [ plastic city ] 15) dan curtin - cascade (dawn mix) [ strictly rhythm ] 16) trevor loveys - the 2s and 5s [ blue basique ] 17) gemini - ahi [ substance ] 18) wink - higher state of consciousness [ strictly rhythm ] 19) naomi daniel - stars (sub dub) [ planet e ] 20) gemini - de bass [ substance ] 21) terry lee brown jr. - back to reception [ plastic city ] Cheers, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/
(313) Wooow
Just dropped Rebound on a big rig, Jesus H - is that a tune or what? Juan is so on it with this one - beautiful...
Re: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs
i'd be a millionare if i got off my ass and made the sarcastic font that i have alway wanted/needed. (read this in a sarcastic tone for propper effect) scotto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jason kenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:44 AM Subject: RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs hang on hang on hang on Ken and evryone, w there :) I for one get hounded for my emails that I send to my friends, the reason is that when I write my emails as we all do, I tend to speak it out in my head as I would if I was speaking to them in person but email never ever conveys this and so everyone reads the email in their own style. So a sacarstic email unless read in a sacarstic manner will be read in the manner of the person at that time ,same with a serious email, sometimes if I am in a comical mood I can mis-read them... this sadly is a problem on emails, it will never go away so lets be too jumpy,surley there are other things to worry about :) your humbly Ian -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 10/08/2004 09:38 To: Robert Taylor; jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs How about doing us all a favour Robert and pressing 'delete' before you send your ill-considered rude and sarcastic comments in the first place? Doesn't that apeal to your superior logical consistency which you are so determined to exercise on the foibles of er, an ***internet eamil list about techno music!*** How erudite! The professorship is coming! In person you are such a nice bloke. But on line ytou ain't half a twat, I can tell you. Good day, Ken -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:28 AM To: jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs Excuse me for making another flippant comment which got taken way too seriously - I only meant it was sh!t in as far as inputting info and corrrecting misinformation - it's obviously a great resource. No need to attack me personally - if you don't like my style, press delete -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:20 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: do not hate on discogs Pardon me Mr. taylor, but I dont see how somebody who spams the list daily with one or two quick sentences of over-simplified arrogant generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website sh!t. Im just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it necissary to besmirch their name. Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past. I can only recollect a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information libraries. And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty information about Basic Channel? I consider myself a fairly well informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself. On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies. ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
Re: (313) Wooow
Yeah it is really good but unfortunately i already have 2 out of 3 tracks. Rebound on the A side still rocks though! It is def. one of Juan better releases in the last couple of years! KJ On 11-aug-04, at 5:33, Martin Dust wrote: Just dropped Rebound on a big rig, Jesus H - is that a tune or what? Juan is so on it with this one - beautiful...
(313) Re: () Wooow
hey kj, can you place where the b2 originally appeared then? i know i have it somewhere, have been trying to remember... i missed the original (vinyl) release(s) of i-94 so i'm very happy to finally have it on vinyl... back 2 basics pt 2 is even better tho i think! http://www.submerge.com/shoppingcart/realaudio/REG89.rm a! and yet another killer ep still to come... techno por favor! -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 10, 2004 3:44 PM To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Wooow Yeah it is really good but unfortunately i already have 2 out of 3 tracks. Rebound on the A side still rocks though! It is def. one of Juan better releases in the last couple of years! KJ On 11-aug-04, at 5:33, Martin Dust wrote: Just dropped Rebound on a big rig, Jesus H - is that a tune or what? Juan is so on it with this one - beautiful...
RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs
:0) -Original Message- From: Scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 August 2004 20:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs i'd be a millionare if i got off my ass and made the sarcastic font that i have alway wanted/needed. (read this in a sarcastic tone for propper effect) scotto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jason kenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:44 AM Subject: RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs hang on hang on hang on Ken and evryone, w there :) I for one get hounded for my emails that I send to my friends, the reason is that when I write my emails as we all do, I tend to speak it out in my head as I would if I was speaking to them in person but email never ever conveys this and so everyone reads the email in their own style. So a sacarstic email unless read in a sacarstic manner will be read in the manner of the person at that time ,same with a serious email, sometimes if I am in a comical mood I can mis-read them... this sadly is a problem on emails, it will never go away so lets be too jumpy,surley there are other things to worry about :) your humbly Ian -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 10/08/2004 09:38 To: Robert Taylor; jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs How about doing us all a favour Robert and pressing 'delete' before you send your ill-considered rude and sarcastic comments in the first place? Doesn't that apeal to your superior logical consistency which you are so determined to exercise on the foibles of er, an ***internet eamil list about techno music!*** How erudite! The professorship is coming! In person you are such a nice bloke. But on line ytou ain't half a twat, I can tell you. Good day, Ken -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:28 AM To: jason kenjar Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: do not hate on discogs Excuse me for making another flippant comment which got taken way too seriously - I only meant it was sh!t in as far as inputting info and corrrecting misinformation - it's obviously a great resource. No need to attack me personally - if you don't like my style, press delete -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:20 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: do not hate on discogs Pardon me Mr. taylor, but I dont see how somebody who spams the list daily with one or two quick sentences of over-simplified arrogant generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website sh!t. Im just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it necissary to besmirch their name. Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past. I can only recollect a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information libraries. And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty information about Basic Channel? I consider myself a fairly well informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself. On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies. ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 02/08/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 02/08/04
Re: (313) Juan Atkins - Rebound
On 10-aug-04, at 22:04, J.T. wrote: hey kj, can you place where the b2 originally appeared then? i know i have it somewhere, have been trying to remember... It is the Model 500 track on the Panic In Detroit compilation on Buzz. KJ
(313) todd sines dates in san francisco?
hey, if anyone has this info., could someone re-post todd sines' dates in san francisco this upcoming weekend? i seem to have lost the message, and i'd like to forward the info. to some friends. thanks, monikat
RE: (313) todd sines dates in san francisco?
12 August / RIOT at the Top / SF 13 August / Voda / SF 14 August / open / SF 15 August / Bionic at Pink w/ Slater Hogan, Iz / SF 16 August / open / LA 17 August / back to NYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) todd sines dates in san francisco? hey, if anyone has this info., could someone re-post todd sines' dates in san francisco this upcoming weekend? i seem to have lost the message, and i'd like to forward the info. to some friends. thanks, monikat
