Re: (313) EU VS US FU
any more senseless outbursts from the peanut gallery? On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, fwdthought wrote: Blah blah blah F all djs. Make your own g damn tracks. There. problem solved. Promoters and djs here and abroad can boycott the f out of each other if anyone gives a rat's ass. Y'all better watch it or the actual people that PRODUCE the f'n music to begin with will boycott YOU. (COZ YOU AIN'T RESPECTIN' THE MUSIC FIRST!) he he he. Arguably, if you were not doing it at the infancy of what has become dj culture and the golden age of electronic music, (by the early nineties on my watch...) Why and what are you doing it for? How much do you really love music? Back to the music please. Much respect, Louis.
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] any more senseless outbursts from the peanut gallery? i heard americans have bigger dicks. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
Look who the hell is talking... ~Erin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any more senseless outbursts from the peanut gallery? On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, fwdthought wrote: Blah blah blah F all djs. Make your own g damn tracks. There. problem solved. Promoters and djs here and abroad can boycott the f out of each other if anyone gives a rat's ass. Y'all better watch it or the actual people that PRODUCE the f'n music to begin with will boycott YOU. (COZ YOU AIN'T RESPECTIN' THE MUSIC FIRST!) he he he. Arguably, if you were not doing it at the infancy of what has become dj culture and the golden age of electronic music, (by the early nineties on my watch...) Why and what are you doing it for? How much do you really love music? Back to the music please. Much respect, Louis.
(313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
http://www.bartleby.com/65/na/narodnik.html I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but last Thursday was a performance by Narodniki in Berlin, which this time consisted of (Left to Right): http://www.c4.ca/narodniki.jpg Richie Hawtin Max Loderbauer (Sun Electric) Luciano Ricardo Villalobos Monolake Zip Scion/Vainqueur/Substance Cabane All played on their laptops, un-synched, at a tempo of 120 BPM, with the exception of Monolake who was the conductor, or better the controller, who used the mixer to determine which artists were being mixed with which and how. Zip and Ricardo also took a few moments to control. The best way to describe it is free-form laptop jazz orchestrated by a perfectionist. You gotta love European arts subsidies. Tosh
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
-- Original Message -- From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look who the hell is talking... ~Erin as he is my former arch nemesis, yusssel has been acting just fine and dandy the last couple weeks. we have actually agreed on some things and even joked around. tom andythepooh.com
Fwd: Re: (313) EU VS US mooba
so here it is. these messages going round about the state of techno and the community. techno brings people together. true. but the picture's still messed up'. it makes me sad that so many of my records come from detroit because i want that kind of music coming from my neighbourhood. trouble is its middle class conservative and they teach classical music and guitars at school. they wouldnt know a kick drum if it kicked. i want future kids producing techno that would wipe the floor with the streets or mis-teeq or whoever, proper music. from the heart. i remember living in bristol where full cycle put on shows. bristol organic. no detroit whatsover, but proper high tech soul nevertheless. and from a local collective who tried to develop their music in the community and teach kids how to play. even then, i dont even 'get' why new forms was so popular. i also think of stories about detroit - altered states being composed by ron trent as a fifteen year old or james stinson inspired by hearing cybotron whilst on his bmx as a kid. i dont think dj mani is really having a dig- i may be wrong. i think hes just sad about the future and where things are going. he may be very ignorant of the european scenes but even here i cant see a new wave of stasis clones unless there is more 'internal energy' and more kids being inspired by techno in the world around them. no disrespect to anyone on the list. just a couple of cents in the pot.
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
Tom I am glad you feel that way... I still am annoyed by his meaningless remarks following every other email... Just my opinion, ~Erin Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: as he is my former arch nemesis, yusssel has been acting just fine and dandy the last couple weeks. we have actually agreed on some things and even joked around. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) EU Boycott : An Irish response
Man, that's funny. Eamon is an Irish name, said like amon, and yeah he had that song, his style being 'ho-hop' or whatever. I did a story on him and got it on the cover of the Aussie Smash Hits - career highlight. ;) I'll second this. I'm sitting here at work having a moment of I heart the 313 list in reaction to Eamonn's post. and here i was wondering if he was that white r+b singer with that pop hit (f*ck it) i dont want you back or whatever. hahahaha. sike naw. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) US / EU: Mani's knee jerk response
ok ok okalot of people have read into this WAY too much, and rightfully so. as when mani wrote it i know he was trying to get a reaction from it. we all know it was'nt the best way to say itbut like i said it was HIS words and i think he was TRYING to get a reaction, which some of you fell into hook line and sinkereven though it was not even directed at you or this list reallythe message was posted to this list as it was to MANY other lists i think in an effort to let people know that mani is changing how his agency does business For the last week mani and cisco from the advent have been sitting here at my house with other dj's/ promoters on the west coast disscusing this topic...i think anyone who heard it would understand the full context of all of this (at least those of you who have seen the American techno scene)it was not a europe bashing session...i mean jeeesh cisco was here and i would say is a good representative of the European techno scene...i mean cmon do you guys think we were all sitting around saying screw europe lets not support them. ohh except you cisco.. so once again i am sorry if this ruffled everyones feathers but a friend asked me to post it to this list and i do think its relevent..and don't you people think that i understand Europes inpact on the American scene i would invite anyone to look at my collectionI have what most people would consider alot of records and own huge sections of RS,DJAX,BUZZ,TRESOR,WARP,NOVAMUTE,HARDWAX,as well as many otherrecords that i PAID for and i thank Europe and the people who made them in my head everytime i listen to one of those gems. for once it would be nice to see someone like Jason Brunton or many others, to come over to our neck of the woods and play a nice party for 2-3 thousand people who love techno so there now more tiesto bashing as i do think fred had a real good point ... Why fight over the crumbs when you should be blowing up the bakery and p.s i hate politics of the government kind so i aint even gonna try to address those issues as they are not mine... michael www.renegaderhythms.com Kamal wrote: I can understand where people are coming from with their angry responses as a knee jerk reaction, I cannot see this stance holding water after a sober read of his initial post. I assure you that our response was not a knee jerk one, neither was our reading of his original less than sober. It is his original post that was anything but sober. While it is obvious that Mani spent a long time considering his position, there is no indication that he spent nearly enough considering his post. on the same note i would say that if european promoters are getting the same treatment from american talent, STOP BOOKING THEM You are correct in saying that we have the right to stop booking American artists if we have been let down by them in the past. As does Mani with European artists. And this is precisely what we have done. However this was not enough. It was then necessary to gather a greater understanding of American artists and find perhaps lesser known artists who were and are more deserving of our support and booking fees. Simply shutting your doors is, in your words, a knee jerk reaction. I was not being merely flippant when I suggested a trip to Europe might benefit Mani greatly. maybe his slogan should be Saving America from bad manners. Certainly one way of saving yourself from bad manners is to never let anyone into your house again. But let it be no surprise to you that this act will be considered the height of bad manners by a lot of perfectly mannered people who will never again receive an invitation. Eamonn / D1 Dublin
RE: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
I'm really hoping something similar happens at Mutek next year. Not even necessarily all those same artists, even just the concept would be interesting to watch unfold. And when I showed that picture to my boyfriend, he said That looks like Hollywood Squares!. From: Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:07:19 +0200 http://www.bartleby.com/65/na/narodnik.html I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but last Thursday was a performance by Narodniki in Berlin, which this time consisted of (Left to Right): http://www.c4.ca/narodniki.jpg Richie Hawtin Max Loderbauer (Sun Electric) Luciano Ricardo Villalobos Monolake Zip Scion/Vainqueur/Substance Cabane All played on their laptops, un-synched, at a tempo of 120 BPM, with the exception of Monolake who was the conductor, or better the controller, who used the mixer to determine which artists were being mixed with which and how. Zip and Ricardo also took a few moments to control. The best way to describe it is free-form laptop jazz orchestrated by a perfectionist. You gotta love European arts subsidies. Tosh _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
I'm really hoping something similar happens at Mutek next year. Not even necessarily all those same artists, even just the concept would be interesting to watch unfold. And when I showed that picture to my boyfriend, he said That looks like Hollywood Squares!. Not sure if you were aware or not, but Narod Niki DID play at Mutek THIS last year, so I'm sure that they'll probably be their next year. I've never been to Mutek, but I'm getting the info from Ableton's site: http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=eventssub=narod_niki NAROD NIKI is a collaboration project founded by Ricardo Villalobos that was presented for the first time at last year´s MUTEK Festival. The idea of the project is to bring together a number of techno masterminds to do a live jam, hiding their identities behind a collective alias to keep the attention dedicated to the music ... The exact lineup will, of course, remain secret. Even so, it should be quite obvious that the list of artists at this event can be nothing but long and extraordinary!! So, it wouldn't be the exact same line up, but something as good. *** Now what I'd like to see personally is not a 20 guys standing behind laptops. That's about as exciting as 1 Guy sitting behind a laptop. I'd like to see 20 Skilled musicians/patchers with their Modulars and Step Sequencers, and them just going at it. Patching like wildmen. Dave
Re: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
where's the recording jack? On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Tosh Cooey wrote: http://www.bartleby.com/65/na/narodnik.html I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but last Thursday was a performance by Narodniki in Berlin, which this time consisted of (Left to Right): http://www.c4.ca/narodniki.jpg Richie Hawtin Max Loderbauer (Sun Electric) Luciano Ricardo Villalobos Monolake Zip Scion/Vainqueur/Substance Cabane All played on their laptops, un-synched, at a tempo of 120 BPM, with the exception of Monolake who was the conductor, or better the controller, who used the mixer to determine which artists were being mixed with which and how. Zip and Ricardo also took a few moments to control. The best way to describe it is free-form laptop jazz orchestrated by a perfectionist. You gotta love European arts subsidies. Tosh
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
hahahaha like prize fighters between matches ;) On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look who the hell is talking... ~Erin as he is my former arch nemesis, yusssel has been acting just fine and dandy the last couple weeks. we have actually agreed on some things and even joked around. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
well- that will certainly change my behavior. you're acting like tthe stuck up girl in my high school social science class who was wound so tight that she once actually told me that my clowning around made her embarrassed. it was at that point i realized if i was having fun and it was making her miserable, then the problem was her's, not mine. On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Erin Bate wrote: Tom I am glad you feel that way... I still am annoyed by his meaningless remarks following every other email... Just my opinion, ~Erin Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: as he is my former arch nemesis, yusssel has been acting just fine and dandy the last couple weeks. we have actually agreed on some things and even joked around. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
ya, your as mature as my 18 month old son... Sweet dreams Josh ~E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well- that will certainly change my behavior. you're acting like tthe stuck up girl in my high school social science class who was wound so tight that she once actually told me that my clowning around made her embarrassed. it was at that point i realized if i was having fun and it was making her miserable, then the problem was her's, not mine. On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Erin Bate wrote: Tom I am glad you feel that way... I still am annoyed by his meaningless remarks following every other email... Just my opinion, ~Erin Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: as he is my former arch nemesis, yusssel has been acting just fine and dandy the last couple weeks. we have actually agreed on some things and even joked around. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Underated Producers
On 1-okt-04, at 18:57, dave cronin wrote: uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! More underrated producers: Duplex! KJ
(313) Any news on: The Connection Machine - Painless
In http://www.downlowmusic.org audio/releases - upcoming the release date for The Connection Machine's new LP is May/June 2004. Has anyone got a clue if this has been only delayed and delayed and delayed or cancelled altogether? If it _is_ coming out I hope that there will be a vinyl release also, the site mentions only a CD (blah) ... Jussi Been waiting this record for a 'while' Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) Any news on: The Connection Machine - Painless
In http://www.downlowmusic.org audio/releases - upcoming the release date for The Connection Machine's new LP is May/June 2004. Has anyone got a clue if this has been only delayed and delayed and delayed or cancelled altogether? If it _is_ coming out I hope that there will be a vinyl release also, the site mentions only a CD (blah) ... Well, I'm sure JT or Minto can fill you in, but the last I heard it's just a little delayed and is defintely coming! Not sure about cd/vinyl, but I'm fairly sure there were plans for a 12 too. Just don't know about a proper LP. and I'm looking forward to it! _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Brian Wilson Smile
I guess I'm stretching it a little here, but have any 313 heads bought the Brian Wilson LP Smile? I'm waiting for the vinyl, but was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it here. _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Joakim in Detroit
Hey, so read somewhere that Joakim is dj'ing in Detroit this weekend. Reckon that would be worth a look you know, he's making brilliant, brilliant records at the mo. and he must have a good record collection. Not sure on his dj's skills (never seen him) but I reckon if you just want to go along to listen to music it would be good. And if you go, let us know how it was! _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
Wow, inspiring! that sounds amazing. Ive always thought that these type of live performances would be the future for electronic music. because like it or not laptops, synths, and turn tables are instruments. Or atleast have the capability of being used as such. But, Im probably preaching to the choire here. chana --- Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bartleby.com/65/na/narodnik.html I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this, but last Thursday was a performance by Narodniki in Berlin, which this time consisted of (Left to Right): http://www.c4.ca/narodniki.jpg Richie Hawtin Max Loderbauer (Sun Electric) Luciano Ricardo Villalobos Monolake Zip Scion/Vainqueur/Substance Cabane All played on their laptops, un-synched, at a tempo of 120 BPM, with the exception of Monolake who was the conductor, or better the controller, who used the mixer to determine which artists were being mixed with which and how. Zip and Ricardo also took a few moments to control. The best way to describe it is free-form laptop jazz orchestrated by a perfectionist. You gotta love European arts subsidies. Tosh
Re: (313) EU VS US FU
well then i got robbed - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) EU VS US FU -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] any more senseless outbursts from the peanut gallery? i heard americans have bigger dicks. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Joakim in Detroit
-Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2004 13:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Joakim in Detroit I've heard him and he's definitely worth checking out. Yeah that time we saw him at 93 Feet East was excellent, but when I saw him @ The Key (can't recall if you were there) he was a bit dissapointing. Really sketchy mixing. But I'm willing to call that a fluke and give him another go. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Speedy J Collabs 100-300 MP3s
Hi All! Sorry if this has already been mentioned but if it hasn't or you missed it the first time there are some tasty MP3 treats up at Speedy J's website. The first one from his Paxahau live set in 2003 is what reminded me of this list so I thought I'd post the links. Enjoy! Leslie --- http://www.speedyj.com/archiv.mp3.files/speedyj-collabs100_webxclusiv.html basj-live performed live at paxahau's yel, st andrews hall, detroit 2003 http://www.speedyj.com/archiv.mp3.files/speedyj-collabs200_webxclusiv.html clicker speedyj_literon http://www.speedyj.com/archiv.mp3.files/speedyj-collabs300_webxclusiv.html dreibonk speedyj_chris liebing There are another 8 MP3s on his site in the SND section but I can't figure out how to give a direct link to it...his site is a little difficult to navigate...but you are rewarded for the effort! http://www.speedyj.com/newsite/home.html
Re: (313) Underated Producers
yeah, the two full lengths both hit the nail on the head with the moody but rockin electro styles. adding brace yourself, which is a total classic(imho), really rounds things out for a strong nomination. has anyone caught dj k-1 / keith tucker live? i've not even been able to dig up a recorded set. --- kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! What was his most recent album again? Was it Optical on Delsin? I'm pretty sure that's the last LP of his I picked up... He released a new album on his Puzzlebox label a few months ago called Metal Images. I have put it on my iPod when i got it and it has been playing almost constantly from that time on :) KJ
Re: (313) Underated Producers
You can check the live he did with Posatronix and Black Tony (AuxMen) @ Stereolize 2003 : http://www.stereolize.org/fuzion.html Personnaly, i really enjoyed it. (wait a little bit, theres a blank at the beginning). And i definitively liked the Live they did to close the DEMF 2002. They played lived with machines some 'techno' classics. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers yeah, the two full lengths both hit the nail on the head with the moody but rockin electro styles. adding brace yourself, which is a total classic(imho), really rounds things out for a strong nomination. has anyone caught dj k-1 / keith tucker live? i've not even been able to dig up a recorded set. --- kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! What was his most recent album again? Was it Optical on Delsin? I'm pretty sure that's the last LP of his I picked up... He released a new album on his Puzzlebox label a few months ago called Metal Images. I have put it on my iPod when i got it and it has been playing almost constantly from that time on :) KJ
(313) irene correction
so i checked the liner notes again- turns out Da Chase is infact noted to be reworked you guys just get me so worked up. sex on wheelz is still noted as written and produced, whatever that means
RE: (313) Underated Producers
Everyone on Clone actually. Seymour Bits aka Comtron too. All the Delsin guys. All the Iridite guys. Reggie Dokes and Rick Wade over in the UK. I-Cube and Joakim need more respect. Jacek Sienkiewicz for still doing the music that I always want Robert Hood to keep doing. Daniel Wang when he comes to the UK Gabriel Ananda 2 Dollar Egg Arian Leviste Thomas Melchior -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2004 09:06 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers On 1-okt-04, at 18:57, dave cronin wrote: uh yeah. too early. brain work bad. dimension 5 = john harvey optic nerve = keith tucker i really like 'em both. but i meant optic nerve / keith tucker. I totally agree about the Keith Tucker thing! I have said it here before and i'll say it again now but his latest album is really, really good. I am surprised that it didn't got anymore attention around the globe! More underrated producers: Duplex! KJ
(313) Re: Any news on: The Connection Machine - Painless
Jussi Lehtonen wrote: In http://www.downlowmusic.org audio/releases - upcoming the release date for The Connection Machine's new LP is May/June 2004. Has anyone got a clue if this has been only delayed ?and delayed and delayed or cancelled altogether? If it _is_ coming out I hope that there will be a vinyl release also, the site mentions only a CD (blah) ... Jussi Been waiting this record for a 'while' Lehtonen full release will probably not be until next January but I can tell you that there will be a limited quantity available through Submerge in the next couple days. So, those who can't wait may purchase it via SID. There will be a 12 EP to accompany the album (CD only sorry folks) later this winter which will feature a few tracks from the album and an edit by a certain Detroit luminary. hope this helps, minto ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
