Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
no club or venue has a system that will allow the lsitener (outside of the lack of record noise) to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a record. if there is one, I'd like to go there and enjoy some 320k mp3s - Original Message - From: Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... I am planning to digitalise some vinyl in 24bit/96KHz (or higher) to see if this is a better solution. Anyone had experience with this? Fab? G -- On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:42:14PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:39 +0200 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
(313) black murda discography
I found a self-titled LP from 1971 called Black Murda, an excellent funk-soul band from detroit. As far as i know they are not on discogs, found a little bit on google, but no complete discography. Are there any funk fans out there that can help me fill in the blanks?
(313) Eric Prydz Remix Of Good Life
Anyone heard the new Eric Prydz of Good Life by Inner City - one of the big DJs here is all excited about it.
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Maybe they can do a nice skin care range for the ladies who spend too much time in clubs. And a perfume would be nice... No! An Axis thong ain't right at all! they had a whole heap of art stuff there that you couldn't buy. disk union basically stocks the same merchandise as the submerge store and I worked out it was cheaper to buy from submerge yeah record bag would be cute, maybe some badges. I draw the line at axis/hello kitty underwear tho
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
*Everything* is an approximation! I'm pretty sure those pops and crackles weren't on the master! ;-) On Jun 23, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Guilherme Menegon Arantes wrote: May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... I am planning to digitalise some vinyl in 24bit/96KHz (or higher) to see if this is a better solution. Anyone had experience with this? Fab? G -- On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:42:14PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:39 +0200 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging. -- Tim Moore
Re: (313) Ultravox
I know, Howard was big here too (everywhere) - but was he recognised as much more than a pop star with a haircut? NME was dominated by jaded punk hacks who dismissed New Romanticism as not cred enough - they preferred Julian Cope and Paul Weller etc. It's worthwhile finding old copies and reading the reviews... for a laugh! When I did the interview I was 'instructed' by the label via the manager not to make fun of him - that tells you something. Hoping to get the article posted v soon. DJs for Eurythmics are mainly local - Askew are you still on the list, help me here would you? I have seen Eurythmics tracks listed here and there, I will have to recall. I know one Melbourne DJ who plays Honkytonks is playing This City Never Sleeps. BTW I recently did an interview with Howard Jones! He is such a cat! It's a real joy interviewing these 80s acts who are now being recognised Cyclone, Howard Jones was massive here! in the charts all the time etc, as a young (very) kid I had all his ahem cassettes. Can't really remember anything dead good he did though (?) anything that stood the test of time (?). hmm, might investigate, but it was all pretty poppy no? can't remember any leftfield kinda dubs or anything. maybe I'm wrong, will look. never bought the 12's at the time, perhaps theres some good instr. on the flips but, yeah, just wanted to mention he was never un-recognised! alex p.s. (I notice that Eurythmics are experiencing a revival among leftfield club DJs at the moment.) which djs and which tracks??! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
Tim Moore wrote: *Everything* is an approximation! I'm pretty sure those pops and crackles weren't on the master! ;-) exactly! and vinyl master also got its restrictions.. although i really dig the sound of cut grooves as well as that on thick chrome tapes -- you can even record your MP3 on good quality analog tape and feel the difference! that said, i can well enjoy good musik coming from any source and being replayed on any soundsystem [it's different with production tho'] ///Z
Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Maybe they can do a nice skin care range for the ladies who spend too much time in clubs. And a perfume would be nice... No! An Axis thong ain't right at all! How's about a Southern Outpost one? http://www.cafepress.com/so612.5737450 :-P
RE: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands
are you suggesting that the SO thong is 'right'? ;) -Original Message- From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 June 2005 10:53 To: Cyclone Wehner Cc: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Axis Wrist Sweat Bands Cyclone Wehner wrote: Maybe they can do a nice skin care range for the ladies who spend too much time in clubs. And a perfume would be nice... No! An Axis thong ain't right at all! How's about a Southern Outpost one? http://www.cafepress.com/so612.5737450 :-P ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
funny you mention this... I used to dump tracks to VCR tapes. sometimes you get the head flutter which is kinda nice :) -Joe - Original Message - From: z66 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads Tim Moore wrote: *Everything* is an approximation! I'm pretty sure those pops and crackles weren't on the master! ;-) exactly! and vinyl master also got its restrictions.. although i really dig the sound of cut grooves as well as that on thick chrome tapes -- you can even record your MP3 on good quality analog tape and feel the difference! that said, i can well enjoy good musik coming from any source and being replayed on any soundsystem [it's different with production tho'] ///Z -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
wasn't mastering to cheapo cassette one of the basic channel Secrets? On Jun 23, 2005, at 20:56, /0 wrote: funny you mention this... I used to dump tracks to VCR tapes. sometimes you get the head flutter which is kinda nice :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
hahahahahaha not much of a secret. I like how one mans ghetto recording scheme becomes another mans secret weapon. - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: z66 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads wasn't mastering to cheapo cassette one of the basic channel Secrets? On Jun 23, 2005, at 20:56, /0 wrote: funny you mention this... I used to dump tracks to VCR tapes. sometimes you get the head flutter which is kinda nice :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005
(313) Event Spam - Advent and Wla Garcia in Portland, OR tonight
Hello All, For those who are in Portland, OR Renegade Rhythms and SOG Research is proud to present The Advent June 23, 2005 - Portland, Oregon *The Advent * UK/Portugal - Kombination Research, Tresor, SOG Research *Wla Garcia * Portugal - In_Tension, Bush, Echo Port, SOG Research * Tom Mitchell * Seattle/Portland - Renegade Rhythms, SOG Research * Mike Mitchell* Seattle/Portland - Renegade Rhythms, SOG Research The event will at the Holocene 1001 SE Morrison 21+ with ID Starts at 9pm -- David Bate www.RenegadeRhythms.com www.SogResearch.com
(313) fuse-in at livesets.com - this weekend only
good morning! livesets.com is going to broadcast 26 hours of livesets from this years fuse-in - starting today at 12am CET on livesets.com! from the livesets.com website: This friday it's time for something different. We will skip 'A Tribute To' for once to let you hear Detroits finest festival: Fuse-In! Fuse-In is formerly know as the the Detroit Electronic Movement Festival (DEMF) and took place during memorial weekend. This year's organizer Kevin Saunderson managed to put up a very cool line-up and we will bring you a selection of sets played at the festival, so make sure you tune in! A big up goes out to our very own Becka and Deosil who has managed to record most of the artists from the mainstage... have a great weekend roman/berlin/germany --- energylog - read the news - www.energylab.de
Re: (313) fxhe mofo
-- Original Message -- From: Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] just got a copy of marcellus pittman's 'nyrobi knight' 12 ummm is this record meant to sound like this? track a2 cherry lee in particular, I mean I know some of these peeps like it dark crazy but this is just nuts. the kick drum jumps all over the shop and I really can't tell if it's a bad pressing or if it's actually meant to sound like that. anyhoo 'nyrobi knight' itself is an er interesting track and I can see it working set tho I doubt if you'd want to play it all the way through, it's just a bit too stop/start until about half way through. i didnt notice anything weird about the kicks on my copy. i do love how dirty and nasty nyrobi knight and dirty are. its almost similar to stuff ive been working on in level of grit. BTW, if youve never seen malik play records, you really should. hes f*cking amazing. after seeing him a couple times this past year at the festival and having had a mix CD of his for a while, he's gotta be in my top 3 deejays of all time, right behind shake and theo. also got jerry the cat statements ep on psychostasia, a1 is a lovely percussive abstract groove that one is nice. the jam ive rediscovered recently is that remix on the juju and jordashe 12 on psychostasia. it sounds really hot on a loud system and that sax bit is just stellar. its much more dancefloor friendly than it sounds on a home system. the fxhe comp 1 12 has a cool omar-s track that's an understated (disco?) loop with grinding fx percussion that sounds a bit industrial almost, jus-ed's track 'am mix' reminds me a little of 2nd wave stuff like 'techno 2', it's very nice. 'moment' by young seth is nice but kinda ordinary minimal - is that a Detroit escalator co. sample hmmm? dont know if thats a DEC sample or not, but i thought that young seth joint was the best one on there. very minimal and understated, very reminiscient of just ask the lonely by omar-s (which might actually be eclipsing recloose's dust as my favorite track of the year). i do hope they keep releasing stuff like malik's record and that comp, as much as i love omar-s its always good to have some variety. especially with the super fast release schedule they seem to be rocking these days. speaking of omar-s, that track on 007 is just bananas. again, it sounds much better loud. its so much fun to mix in, those weird percussion sounds seem to catch peoples ear and then the loop in the background builds it up very nicely. super hot. i play multiple fxhe records every time i deejay. theyre killing me right now with the amount of goodness theyre putting out. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Eric Prydz Remix Of Good Life
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Anyone heard the new Eric Prydz of Good Life by Inner City - one of the big DJs here is all excited about it. Link to a audio clip here: http://www.spankrecords.com.au/stock/vinyl/vinylDetail.asp?id=23924 From the sounds of the clip, its not really much different from the original except for some little extra flourishes.
FW: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
-Original Message- From: z66 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2005 01:33 Tim Moore wrote: *Everything* is an approximation! I'm pretty sure those pops and crackles weren't on the master! ;-) exactly! and vinyl master also got its restrictions.. although i really dig the sound of cut grooves as well as that on thick chrome tapes -- you can even record your MP3 on good quality analog tape and feel the difference! Hear hear! (Friday gag) z and Tim. Different types of reproduction all distort the original sound - just in different ways. Guilherme - consider yourself trounced. Or if you wish we can continue this one in person next week - in sunny Greece!!! (I'm excited in case you can't tell).
FW: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
-Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2005 02:02 wasn't mastering to cheapo cassette one of the basic channel Secrets? Interesting that - I knew of quite a few people who did it but didn't know of they did. For definite? On all records or just a few? Reason I think it interesting is how dope that stuff sounds coming straight off Scion's laptops (and to a certain extent, though not quite as much, on the CD of this) - something I'd always put down to it being straight high quality digital direct to the system. Wonder if they use the records digitised and it sounds so dynamic as they're putting loads of effects on or if they have bits and pieces from earlier in the process of the records creation? Anyway they make the best argument for using Ableton I've heard!
(313) friday question
what is the friday question of this week?
(313) hutton
and, oh yeah if _everyone_ did purchase that Hutton Drive record on Frantic Flowers?! it's absolutely amazing!
Re: (313) friday question
Why arent more of the red planets pressed on red vinyl ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the friday question of this week?
FW: (313) hutton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2005 09:33 and, oh yeah if _everyone_ did purchase that Hutton Drive record on Frantic Flowers?! it's absolutely amazing! G - waiting, waiting, waiting for this one.
Re: (313) friday question
what is the friday question of this week? what colour swimming trunks (speedo style) is marsel wearing today? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: FW: (313) hutton
G - waiting, waiting, waiting for this one. Yeah, me too. Tim, I know you're hearing us, me and francis are hanging out for this. Me need it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
FW: (313) gil did it
-Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 21:42 and then -you- ask but 'gee why' http://nomusic.net/~gyaker/Gee_Why_presents_Four_Times_Electric.mp3 a fellow lister suppling tunes. shout outs. big ups. d Diana enhance your shout out or big up by letting us (non-long time 313 members) know who did this (as I don't know who Gee is). Only had a brief listen so far.
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... i used to think like that guilherme. thing is tho i've not met a dj yet who knows how to drive the levels properly on a dj mixer (and once one dj in a night pushes those levels into the red all that follow more or less have to do the same) and almost all club PA's are pretty poor quality. i also think that people's ears are trained to hear vinyl specific mastering. if someone plays something digitally that's been mastered for that media (off a cd for example) the sound is definitely different. i prefer my own recorded off vinyl files for that reason. robin...
Re: (313) friday question
that's an easy one! yellow what is the friday question of this week? what colour swimming trunks (speedo style) is marsel wearing today?
Re: (313) friday question
to give the freaks and collectors something to do was only the first one on red? i got good memories of that one when buying i bought it very together on the same moment with that second maurizio on orange vinyl and i clearly remember i had some like wow , finally again real good techno from the d when did they come out? june 92? Why arent more of the red planets pressed on red vinyl ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the friday question of this week?
Re: (313) friday question
that one: what is the friday question of this week?
Re: (313) friday question
so loopy minimal techno today! - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) friday question that one: what is the friday question of this week?
RE: (313) friday question
Well, with the current heat overhere i wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't wearning any at all -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juni 2005 11:01 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) friday question that's an easy one! yellow what is the friday question of this week? what colour swimming trunks (speedo style) is marsel wearing today?
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
hi guilherme, i have never tried this way, i usually just digitalise in 320kbit/44100 Hz what is the result you want to obtain? a higher definition of sound? you might want to try FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec - http://flac.sourceforge.net/) fab. - Original Message - From: Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... I am planning to digitalise some vinyl in 24bit/96KHz (or higher) to see if this is a better solution. Anyone had experience with this? Fab? G -- On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:42:14PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:02:39 +0200 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's why i have embraked on the gargantuan task of ripping all my vinyl to mp3 - digital files ARE easier to use, although for me there is nothing like vinyl. the sound, the feel, the smelland the packaging.
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 09:55:50AM +0100, robin wrote: May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... i used to think like that guilherme. thing is tho i've not met a dj yet who knows how to drive the levels properly on a dj mixer (and once one dj in a night pushes those levels into the red all that follow more or less have to do the same) and almost all club PA's are pretty poor quality. I agree 100% with all you guys said about club/dj sound systems. It is the glass window comparison... But I almost always buy records because of the music, barely have in mind the club/DJ tool concept, and 98% of the time I am listenin to them in my home stereo. So it is important they sound good there. i also think that people's ears are trained to hear vinyl specific mastering. if someone plays something digitally that's been mastered for that media (off a cd for example) the sound is definitely different. i prefer my own recorded off vinyl files for that reason. Yes, that was my question. You still need a good source (vinyl) to digitalise from, and in my experience 16/44 does result in considerable degradation of the sound (comparing to the vinyl source), specially for less processed funk, jazz, etc... G ---
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
But I almost always buy records because of the music, barely have in mind the club/DJ tool concept, and 98% of the time I am listenin to them in my home stereo. So it is important they sound good there. yeah fair point. me too. my home setup is even worse tho :) i also think that people's ears are trained to hear vinyl specific mastering. if someone plays something digitally that's been mastered for that media (off a cd for example) the sound is definitely different. i prefer my own recorded off vinyl files for that reason. Yes, that was my question. You still need a good source (vinyl) to digitalise from, and in my experience 16/44 does result in considerable degradation of the sound (comparing to the vinyl source), specially for less processed funk, jazz, etc... yeah it's the compression people put on CDs that amazes me. if you pull up the waveform of a track off a cd it's almost always 'crushed' with some sort of compression. the 16/44 thing is nothing compared to that imo. anyway, i guess we're way off-topic now. :) robin...
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
BTW .. I am in a ballroom right now with 400 Rugby supporters form NZ and the UK .. playing a selection of net label music at 192 ' On a Bose vocal PA .. arrgh Neither the location or the PA are my choice, but the sounds are excellent ! .simon
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. x2 thanks for the tips guyssome label were uknown to me
RE: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
-Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2005 00:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads no club or venue has a system that will allow the lsitener (outside of the lack of record noise) to differentiate between a 320k mp3 and a record. if there is one, I'd like to go there and enjoy some 320k mp3s You could try The Shelter in NYC, Plastic People in London and even Fabric in London also. If you'd been around at the time, The Paradise Garage might also have surprised you, according to legend. K Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) TitontonDuvanté?
Yeah I noticed his releases seem to have tapered out recently too, Michael. His last really new stuff was in 2003... Ken
Re: (313) TitontonDuvanté?
actually at the local record shop there is a release which i suspect is new. unfortunately i cant remember the label. fab. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: RE: (313) TitontonDuvanté? Yeah I noticed his releases seem to have tapered out recently too, Michael. His last really new stuff was in 2003... Ken
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads
On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:43 PM, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? May I be annoying, and raise a rebuttal here? :) Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... In 1991, I was skeptical about this newfangled Compact Disc thing. (Not to namedrop, but ...) Skinny Puppy's cEvin Key was over my house one day, and we talked about it. I gave him my Old Skool arguments, come on, how could this be as warm as vinyl, it's sampled so it's an approximation, blah blah ... He looked me square in the eye and said, Greg, look. We make music, so we ought to know how it's supposed to sound, right? Mmmmhmmn. Well, our CDs sound like our music sounded to us in the studio. Vinyl records don't. I bought a portable DiscMan-type CD player the next day and, for all intents and purposes, have never looked back. - Greg
Re: FW: (313) gil did it
gee why = gil yaker --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 21:42 and then -you- ask but 'gee why' http://nomusic.net/~gyaker/Gee_Why_presents_Four_Times_Electric.mp3 a fellow lister suppling tunes. shout outs. big ups. d Diana enhance your shout out or big up by letting us (non-long time 313 members) know who did this (as I don't know who Gee is). Only had a brief listen so far. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(313) friday question
is this a booty label as well? as there is not any info on the records http://www.discogs.com/release/430805
RE: (313) friday question
is it maybe as well, because we get older? i mean we see all music from 10-15 years ago on bootleg as we know the original i don't have the idea there are more bootlegs floating around ehm.. are there? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 24 juni 2005 14:48 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: (313) friday question hmm, looks like it marsel. christ, all these bootlegs at the moment. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .netTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org cc: 24/06/2005 13:44 Subject: (313) friday question is this a booty label as well? as there is not any info on the records http://www.discogs.com/release/430805 _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) friday question
is it maybe as well, because we get older? yeah, I reckon maybe. i don't have the idea there are more bootlegs floating around ehm.. are there? I think in modern electronic music (techno?), theres more around these days than there were. just because the records are getting older and more sought after, and the ebay price explosion of the mid-late 90's didn't help... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Rick Wilhite - The Love For Music EP
has anyone heard this? is it good? (it surely is, but i wanna know more, any clips out there in the www?) discogs has info on this, seems to be only a few weeks old, haven't seen it in the shops, though: http://www.discogs.com/release/474326 (pending release, you have to be logged in to see it.) c*
Re: (313) Rick Wilhite - The Love For Music EP
i had a quick flick through in the shop. it sounded a little obvious so i left it. i think tom's mentioned that he picked it up and liked it robin... On 24 Jun 2005, at 15:20, Carlos de Brito wrote: has anyone heard this? is it good? (it surely is, but i wanna know more, any clips out there in the www?) discogs has info on this, seems to be only a few weeks old, haven't seen it in the shops, though: http://www.discogs.com/release/474326 (pending release, you have to be logged in to see it.)
RE: (313) Ultravox
I play who's that girl almost every week. But that's all. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:29 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Ultravox I know, Howard was big here too (everywhere) - but was he recognised as much more than a pop star with a haircut? NME was dominated by jaded punk hacks who dismissed New Romanticism as not cred enough - they preferred Julian Cope and Paul Weller etc. It's worthwhile finding old copies and reading the reviews... for a laugh! When I did the interview I was 'instructed' by the label via the manager not to make fun of him - that tells you something. Hoping to get the article posted v soon. DJs for Eurythmics are mainly local - Askew are you still on the list, help me here would you? I have seen Eurythmics tracks listed here and there, I will have to recall. I know one Melbourne DJ who plays Honkytonks is playing This City Never Sleeps. BTW I recently did an interview with Howard Jones! He is such a cat! It's a real joy interviewing these 80s acts who are now being recognised Cyclone, Howard Jones was massive here! in the charts all the time etc, as a young (very) kid I had all his ahem cassettes. Can't really remember anything dead good he did though (?) anything that stood the test of time (?). hmm, might investigate, but it was all pretty poppy no? can't remember any leftfield kinda dubs or anything. maybe I'm wrong, will look. never bought the 12's at the time, perhaps theres some good instr. on the flips but, yeah, just wanted to mention he was never un-recognised! alex p.s. (I notice that Eurythmics are experiencing a revival among leftfield club DJs at the moment.) which djs and which tracks??! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Rick Wilhite - The Love For Music EP
-- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] i had a quick flick through in the shop. it sounded a little obvious so i left it. i think tom's mentioned that he picked it up and liked it yeah its decent, not the best record of all time. and i swear to god, rick told me delano smith did the edits on this 12. maybe he lied to me. but thats what the man said. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) friday question
not that im aware of. im not even sure if they are a legit label or not. they just put out a double pack with pretty much all the official remixes of Blue Monday (hardfloor, the beach, 1988 remix dub, original, etc). they could be legit, but i dont know. the pressings are usually pretty good, though. but, to answer the booty part of the question: not that im aware of. HA! or, it just dawned on me that you probably meant bootleg. lol derek. On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a booty label as well? as there is not any info on the records http://www.discogs.com/release/430805
RE: (313) friday question
What's the deal with The Beach/Blue Monday? Is The Beach a remix of Blue Monday? It sure sounds like it, but it is always just called The Beach -Original Message- From: Derek Plaslaiko. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2005 14:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: (313) friday question not that im aware of. im not even sure if they are a legit label or not. they just put out a double pack with pretty much all the official remixes of Blue Monday (hardfloor, the beach, 1988 remix dub, original, etc). they could be legit, but i dont know. the pressings are usually pretty good, though. but, to answer the booty part of the question: not that im aware of. HA! or, it just dawned on me that you probably meant bootleg. lol derek. On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this a booty label as well? as there is not any info on the records http://www.discogs.com/release/430805 # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) TitontonDuvanté?
-- Original Message -- From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah I noticed his releases seem to have tapered out recently too, Michael. His last really new stuff was in 2003... the shop i work in had a 12 in sometime late last year by him, its got a broken beat vocal type jam on it and it was new. it was on the amalgama label (which tito also did the first release on, one of my favorite of his tracks actually along with a seiji rmx of it) and i think it was 003. plus his voyeurism LP just got a repress/rerelease which isnt new, but is still d*mn good. found the amalgama thing: http://www.discogs.com/release/348988 tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) friday question
-- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the deal with The Beach/Blue Monday? Is The Beach a remix of Blue Monday? It sure sounds like it, but it is always just called The Beach the beach is just the dub/intrumental of blue monday from the original 12. named, im assuming, from when i walked down to the beach line. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
(313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk)
After looking at David Elsewhere Bernal's videos (including the VW GTI commercial) I want to watch some more I used to have a bunch of sites bookmarked that had b-boy/girl teams - mostly pop lock stuff seems like these websites have a short lifespan as they've all gone 404 I know there's a lot of dance groups out on the West Coast - I can't recall the exact name but there was one group of about five or six guys called Demon Eyez or something they had a few changes in their name over the year but I do recall one clip of them wearing those silver firefighter outfits and doing a routine to a wicked electro track They would always wear masks - one of the coolest groups I've seen in the last five or so years So, if you're holding any links to any electro funk/hip-hop dance groups please pass them on I'm interested in seeing people spin on their heads and do helicopters for hours on end Looking for well thought out routines where they're actually dancing to the music and not just showing off their muscle moves if they're dancing to electro all the better MEK
Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk)
David Elsewhere rocks. have you seen the one of him popping to Autechre? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) After looking at David Elsewhere Bernal's videos (including the VW GTI commercial) I want to watch some more I used to have a bunch of sites bookmarked that had b-boy/girl teams - mostly pop lock stuff seems like these websites have a short lifespan as they've all gone 404 I know there's a lot of dance groups out on the West Coast - I can't recall the exact name but there was one group of about five or six guys called Demon Eyez or something they had a few changes in their name over the year but I do recall one clip of them wearing those silver firefighter outfits and doing a routine to a wicked electro track They would always wear masks - one of the coolest groups I've seen in the last five or so years So, if you're holding any links to any electro funk/hip-hop dance groups please pass them on I'm interested in seeing people spin on their heads and do helicopters for hours on end Looking for well thought out routines where they're actually dancing to the music and not just showing off their muscle moves if they're dancing to electro all the better MEK
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
yeah, but one thing is professional usage, where i can understand the worries about quality of sound/large files etc and another one is just plain home listening. there is just a huge amount of really high quality music out there that seems to be ingored by a lot of electronic music headsi think thats what simon was talking about. - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Global Warming ?! [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
Re: (313) black murda discography
Ahem That's Black Merda... David Armin-Parcells www.daimusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: david smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: (313) black murda discography I found a self-titled LP from 1971 called Black Murda, an excellent funk-soul band from detroit. As far as i know they are not on discogs, found a little bit on google, but no complete discography. Are there any funk fans out there that can help me fill in the blanks?
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
.. i think the point is beyond the format -- it's just whole new way of presenting musik and reaching the audience. MP3 and other digital musik formats are not really young anymore, it's just that now they've evolved in something really useful, bearing acceptable quality, modern distribution network and decent replay/mixing tools. i'm still buying CD and vinyl releases but i'm really glad for the new digital distribution trend anyhow, even if it's killing traditional means of music industry. the world is forever changing but everyone is free to keep their favorite relics and just keep on doin' it my 2 santims, ///Z Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Its an amzing world out there, and any MP3 snobs should stop lording over their vinyl collections, and just take interest in a format that is allowing a huge number of artists to release music to the world. .simon The world is quite amazing isn't it? I was thinking that on the way in to work! I agree about taking interest, but taking interest in a concept and supporting a format (and all it's limitations) are different. I am intensely interested in the concept of fully digital music presentation, but like Francois k said on dhp that time, the concept doesn't really work consistently on the professional level until you start closing in on uncompressed quality (really uber-high bitrates and large files). So I probably won't bother with full steam digital until the format is expanded to include high quality files. But then again you're talking to the guy who buys 4 pairs of levi's 501's every spring and feels fashion conscious so Maybe I'm just habitual, or maybe I only accept the best, depends on your take on jeans and music. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Global Warming ?! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:07 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? Others I would add to the list below. Heavy Industries Bevlar Dobox Clever Music Luumu Acrylik .. This music out there is pretty diverse and amazing, certinaly enough for me to enjoy and feel excited about. Check out Speakeasy on Psurkit.net ... Its a weekly podacast featuring some of the favorite tracks I find weekly. The show notes include links to the sites I am visiting. z66 wrote: .. which are your favourite labels and artists? i'm not really downloading too much, but i've found at least one worthy release on following netlabels: REALAUDIO EPSILONLAB STADTGRUEN TONATOM ACEDIA MUSIC 2063MUSIC _ROHFORMAT EXEGENE RACEWILLBEGIN DATAMUSIK KIKAPU NISHI GAINLAD MP3DEATH and.. ASYMMETRIC MP3 D1GITAL and ofcourse.. THINNER TEXTONE ///Z -- Can you do enough to stop the liberation of your own mind? www.psurkit.net www.obscure.co.nz
Re: (313) [Fwd: Sonar pictures]
Ah ! we definitely were not far from each other at sci-fi records as on the Thursday i spent a few minutes with Rachmad and Mills aswell, and on the saturday i was outside the shop catching Mills doing his showcase (hanging some redbull, believing it could save me from being tired hahha). Day event were really rocking, i see there were some nice music played at the night ones, thoughi avoided them coz its just full of too many dorks in the crowd. -- Benoît. max a écrit : While we're at it here are my photos. http://www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/bornpics/SonarBCN05_night/ http://www.born-yesterday.co.uk/radio/bornpics/SonarBCN05_day/ Please bear in mind there are a few holiday snap's amongst these as well + lots of BCN :D If you have trouble using the navigation due the picture resizing ( a problem on lower rez screens) just use the arrow keys on ya keyboard. Had a great time, really enjoyed Joris Voorn, Monoceros, Alex Attias, Jeff Mills, and the minus stage plus loads more. Going back next year I've decided. MAX www.amp-art.com -Original Message- From: Benoît Pueyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 June 2005 21:17 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) [Fwd: Sonar pictures] Hi all, here are all the pics i took at Sonar http://djtioneb.free.fr/Sonar2005/ 16,17 and 18 day events also : 16 june, Tresor party @ Moog w/ special guest Jeff Mills more 17 june, Technique vs Immigrant @Zentraus w/ Funk D void, Robin Porter ... 17 june, F**k me im famous @ Discotheque w/ David Guetta (yeah i was really drunk when i got there) Ill post a review soon, i need to write it and it takes time hehhe =) cheers
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
Yes, recently playing at a little house party, what I noticed was that playing direct off my laptop has a different tone quality - basically, there are a lot more highs present on the laptop tracks than on the vinyl. It easy easy enough to EQ the sound system a little so that the laptop sounds more in line with the vinyl playing previously, but if you switch straight out you will hear a definite difference, not really in resolution but all the highs can make the digital sound a little bright if the sound is tweaked specifically for vinyl. Again though, twist a couple knobs and this can easily be corrected. ~David robin wrote: May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... i used to think like that guilherme. thing is tho i've not met a dj yet who knows how to drive the levels properly on a dj mixer (and once one dj in a night pushes those levels into the red all that follow more or less have to do the same) and almost all club PA's are pretty poor quality. i also think that people's ears are trained to hear vinyl specific mastering. if someone plays something digitally that's been mastered for that media (off a cd for example) the sound is definitely different. i prefer my own recorded off vinyl files for that reason. robin...
Re: Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
obviously. if you're doing a CD and record, you have to master your tracks twice, because mastering to CD and vinyl are two vastly different things. in this way, I prefer digital, because you're having to master your way around the limitations of the vinyl -Joe From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/24 Fri PM 12:30:47 EDT To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads Yes, recently playing at a little house party, what I noticed was that playing direct off my laptop has a different tone quality - basically, there are a lot more highs present on the laptop tracks than on the vinyl. It easy easy enough to EQ the sound system a little so that the laptop sounds more in line with the vinyl playing previously, but if you switch straight out you will hear a definite difference, not really in resolution but all the highs can make the digital sound a little bright if the sound is tweaked specifically for vinyl. Again though, twist a couple knobs and this can easily be corrected. ~David robin wrote: May I be annoying, and raise a technical point here? Digitalised music is always an approximation, so I prefer to stick with the real thing and keep my vinyl. In a decent sound system anyone can tell the difference when comparing the real thing with .wav, .mp3 or any other standard digital format... i used to think like that guilherme. thing is tho i've not met a dj yet who knows how to drive the levels properly on a dj mixer (and once one dj in a night pushes those levels into the red all that follow more or less have to do the same) and almost all club PA's are pretty poor quality. i also think that people's ears are trained to hear vinyl specific mastering. if someone plays something digitally that's been mastered for that media (off a cd for example) the sound is definitely different. i prefer my own recorded off vinyl files for that reason. robin...
Re: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads
obviously. if you're doing a CD and record, you have to master your tracks twice, because mastering to CD and vinyl are two vastly different things. in this way, I prefer digital, because you're having to master your way around the limitations of the vinyl that's true joe, i think people like the way that sounds though. that's why people say oooh i love the way vinyl sounds all warm and such (myself included :) ). robin...
RE: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Didn't mean to mislead. I'm down for the digi-distro for sure. The advances made to facilitate this as it grows in influence will probably facilitate the kinds of change I'm talking about (ie, bandwidth expansion to accommodate more downloads will make it more viable to disseminate larger files faster as well). So yeah, werd. I'm witchu on that. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: z66 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)? .. i think the point is beyond the format -- it's just whole new way of presenting musik and reaching the audience. MP3 and other digital musik formats are not really young anymore, it's just that now they've evolved in something really useful, bearing acceptable quality, modern distribution network and decent replay/mixing tools. i'm still buying CD and vinyl releases but i'm really glad for the new digital distribution trend anyhow, even if it's killing traditional means of music industry. the world is forever changing but everyone is free to keep their favorite relics and just keep on doin' it my 2 santims, ///Z
(313) Shopping Time
Ok. Haven't been on the list in awhile. But it's Record Time's anniversary sale, so can folks recommend any must have records?
(313) A reasonable compression rate?
The storage requirements for 1000 records at 24 bit 96 KHz would be astronomical. IIRC, I mixed down a 6 minute track to 32 bit 96 KHz and it was over 300MB! If you actually decide to encode an average of 2 tracks/record that would require ~600GB. 1500 records and you're nearly at a terrabyte (don't even worry about albums for now). Even if you're thinking that hard disk space is cheap these days, the backup requirements are crazy. Plunking that on DVD's you've got an organisational nightmare, and if you're thinking of using a NAS, a terrabyte is bloody expensive. But hell, 32 bit 96 KHz is nothing. Why not go for one of those audiophile formats like Sony's 1 bit 2.1 MHz DVD audio format which is meant to replicate the stream of analogue audio more accurately than larger bit types? No clue what kind of file sizes you'll get with that, but I think it's similar to the 5 channel 24 bit 96 KHz files from that other DVD audio format, which is large. Personally, I reckon 32 bit 256 Kbps mp3 is plenty good with today's compression formats. Has anyone actually ever noticed the difference at this bitrate? That's what I'm using anyway. Getting fanatical about any of these choices is a bit silly if you ask me, as five years from now there'll probably be a new format that poops all over the compession of today and we'll all be glad we kept the vinyls so that we can re-encode everything from the source in the new format. Maybe I'll be done with my current collection by then. ;) @ Joe: I recorded a 6-hour mix to VHS once upon a time. Good for that uninterrupted feel. :) Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) A reasonable compression rate?
Getting fanatical about any of these choices is a bit silly if you ask me,as five years from now there'll probably be a new format that poops all over the compession of today and we'll all be glad we kept the vinyls so that we can re-encode everything from the source in the new format. My point in a nutshell. And I think that if the current choices don't move me like I want, then I'm cool holding out with my source material. If you should ever finish encoding all your vinyl, please allow me to take care of the disposal...for a nominal fee of course :) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:54 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) A reasonable compression rate? The storage requirements for 1000 records at 24 bit 96 KHz would be astronomical. IIRC, I mixed down a 6 minute track to 32 bit 96 KHz and it was over 300MB! If you actually decide to encode an average of 2 tracks/record that would require ~600GB. 1500 records and you're nearly at a terrabyte (don't even worry about albums for now). Even if you're thinking that hard disk space is cheap these days, the backup requirements are crazy. Plunking that on DVD's you've got an organisational nightmare, and if you're thinking of using a NAS, a terrabyte is bloody expensive. But hell, 32 bit 96 KHz is nothing. Why not go for one of those audiophile formats like Sony's 1 bit 2.1 MHz DVD audio format which is meant to replicate the stream of analogue audio more accurately than larger bit types? No clue what kind of file sizes you'll get with that, but I think it's similar to the 5 channel 24 bit 96 KHz files from that other DVD audio format, which is large. Personally, I reckon 32 bit 256 Kbps mp3 is plenty good with today's compression formats. Has anyone actually ever noticed the difference at this bitrate? That's what I'm using anyway. Getting fanatical about any of these choices is a bit silly if you ask me, as five years from now there'll probably be a new format that poops all over the compession of today and we'll all be glad we kept the vinyls so that we can re-encode everything from the source in the new format. Maybe I'll be done with my current collection by then. ;) @ Joe: I recorded a 6-hour mix to VHS once upon a time. Good for that uninterrupted feel. :) Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) black murda discography
Werd. http://tinyurl.com/9al93 You can buy a couple of their lp's on vinyl rerelease here. Check tuff city in general if you never been there. I like their description of them, too late for the hendrix generation and too early for the parliament-funkadelic generation... sweet. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
(313) 303expo date change
hi!!! the dates for the 303expo in germany have changed. to feb-17-28, 2006. website @ www.303expo.com will be updated... sometime... why? they want to make sure that when it happens, that the entire universe is woomped to its very foundation. I'm trying to convince them to book scorpions for a live performance of rock you like a hurricane but I dont know if they are listening or humoring me I'll take any questions you have except things like where do babies come from ask your momma how I explained it to HER! ;p -Joe
Re: (313) A reasonable compression rate?
.. i'm using lame LAME 3.90.3 for MP3 encoding using VBR [which in average turns out to be ~200kbps]. been mostly encoding seedee extracted WAVs as well as my own production and i can't tell much of a difference, maybe sounds a little more 'compact'. lame encoding presets are optimized and tweaked to reach good quality/size ratio, the only complaint might be it cuts highs in the name of 'no human is able to hear above 18khz' so you cant encode up to 22khz. btw, the decoder is also important and there's still room to advance. i'm using Mad plug-in for Winamp http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/mpeg/mad-plugin/ i guess some lossless format will take over sooner or later as bandwidth and storage makes it accessible already the Sony format you mentioned sounds interesting! i wonder of the way of interpreting and describing audio characteristics there, gotta google it up -- ///Z Tristan Watkins wrote: The storage requirements for 1000 records at 24 bit 96 KHz would be astronomical. IIRC, I mixed down a 6 minute track to 32 bit 96 KHz and it was over 300MB! If you actually decide to encode an average of 2 tracks/record that would require ~600GB. 1500 records and you're nearly at a terrabyte (don't even worry about albums for now). Even if you're thinking that hard disk space is cheap these days, the backup requirements are crazy. Plunking that on DVD's you've got an organisational nightmare, and if you're thinking of using a NAS, a terrabyte is bloody expensive. But hell, 32 bit 96 KHz is nothing. Why not go for one of those audiophile formats like Sony's 1 bit 2.1 MHz DVD audio format which is meant to replicate the stream of analogue audio more accurately than larger bit types? No clue what kind of file sizes you'll get with that, but I think it's similar to the 5 channel 24 bit 96 KHz files from that other DVD audio format, which is large. Personally, I reckon 32 bit 256 Kbps mp3 is plenty good with today's compression formats. Has anyone actually ever noticed the difference at this bitrate? That's what I'm using anyway. Getting fanatical about any of these choices is a bit silly if you ask me, as five years from now there'll probably be a new format that poops all over the compession of today and we'll all be glad we kept the vinyls so that we can re-encode everything from the source in the new format. Maybe I'll be done with my current collection by then. ;) @ Joe: I recorded a 6-hour mix to VHS once upon a time. Good for that uninterrupted feel. :) Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) A reasonable compression rate?
seconded! however i'm making use of encoded audio already and most likely i'll have to deal with it a lot during next 5 years, so i'm interested to handle the matter best way possible at any time. ///Z Getting fanatical about any of these choices is a bit silly if you ask me,as five years from now there'll probably be a new format that poops all over the compession of today and we'll all be glad we kept the vinyls so that we can re-encode everything from the source in the new format. My point in a nutshell. And I think that if the current choices don't move me like I want, then I'm cool holding out with my source material. If you should ever finish encoding all your vinyl, please allow me to take care of the disposal...for a nominal fee of course :)
Re: (313) A reasonable compression rate?
At 03:54 PM 6/24/2005, Tristan Watkins wrote: But hell, 32 bit 96 KHz is nothing. Why not go for one of those audiophile formats like Sony's 1 bit 2.1 MHz DVD audio format which is meant to replicate the stream of analogue audio more accurately than larger bit types? No clue what kind of file sizes you'll get with that, but I think it's similar to the 5 channel 24 bit 96 KHz files from that other DVD audio format, which is large. don't those get compressed like the rest of DVD content usually does? I mean, Dolby AC-3 doesn't have noticeable glitches (usually) and that's compressed 5.1. 1 bit 2.1MHz is 15.2 Mbytes / minute per channel. I assume that's like a 1-bit DAC. 32-bit (floats not ints, I presume) 96kHz is 22.5 Mbytes / minute per channel. 24-bit 96kHz is 16.9 Mbytes / minute per channel. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) A reasonable compression rate?
At 03:41 PM 6/24/2005, z66 wrote: i guess some lossless format will take over sooner or later as bandwidth and storage makes it accessible already flac and Apple Lossless give 2:1 compression. Eh. the Sony format you mentioned sounds interesting! i wonder of the way of interpreting and describing audio characteristics there, gotta google it up -- i'll bet it's something like this: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question620.htm http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=dualda.htmurl=http://www.ee.washington.edu/conselec/CE/kuhn/onebit/primer.htm -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) friday question
who will make the last detroit techno record? I've got 10 bux that says I can ruin the genre for everyone
Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk)
the description reminds me of 8bit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/24 Fri AM 11:01:20 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) After looking at David Elsewhere Bernal's videos (including the VW GTI commercial) I want to watch some more I used to have a bunch of sites bookmarked that had b-boy/girl teams - mostly pop lock stuff seems like these websites have a short lifespan as they've all gone 404 I know there's a lot of dance groups out on the West Coast - I can't recall the exact name but there was one group of about five or six guys called Demon Eyez or something they had a few changes in their name over the year but I do recall one clip of them wearing those silver firefighter outfits and doing a routine to a wicked electro track They would always wear masks - one of the coolest groups I've seen in the last five or so years So, if you're holding any links to any electro funk/hip-hop dance groups please pass them on I'm interested in seeing people spin on their heads and do helicopters for hours on end Looking for well thought out routines where they're actually dancing to the music and not just showing off their muscle moves if they're dancing to electro all the better MEK
Re: (313) friday question
My tongue-in-cheek response (to un-ruin the genre) says it already happened DJ T-1000 The Last DJ On Earth But that hasn't stopped folks from releasing some fine detroit techno records afterwards. I think it's obvious that it'll be the last DJ left on earth who makes the last 313 record. (Barring space travel, rebirth from watery graves a la Drexciya, etc etc.) Detroiters are survivors, after all. -marc who will make the last detroit techno record? I've got 10 bux that says I can ruin the genre for everyone
Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk)
I think I just recalled the name: Demons of the Mind (although I think they spelled it differently) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06/24/05 03:49 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) the description reminds me of 8bit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/24 Fri AM 11:01:20 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) After looking at David Elsewhere Bernal's videos (including the VW GTI commercial) I want to watch some more I used to have a bunch of sites bookmarked that had b-boy/girl teams - mostly pop lock stuff seems like these websites have a short lifespan as they've all gone 404 I know there's a lot of dance groups out on the West Coast - I can't recall the exact name but there was one group of about five or six guys called Demon Eyez or something they had a few changes in their name over the year but I do recall one clip of them wearing those silver firefighter outfits and doing a routine to a wicked electro track They would always wear masks - one of the coolest groups I've seen in the last five or so years So, if you're holding any links to any electro funk/hip-hop dance groups please pass them on I'm interested in seeing people spin on their heads and do helicopters for hours on end Looking for well thought out routines where they're actually dancing to the music and not just showing off their muscle moves if they're dancing to electro all the better MEK
Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk)
did they split into two different groups? I found a B-boy summit listing them and Medea Sirkas - which I thought was one of their former names. MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 06/24/05 04:12 PM /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) I think I just recalled the name: Demons of the Mind (although I think they spelled it differently) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06/24/05 03:49 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) the description reminds me of 8bit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/24 Fri AM 11:01:20 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) b-boy/girl groups (electrofunk) After looking at David Elsewhere Bernal's videos (including the VW GTI commercial) I want to watch some more I used to have a bunch of sites bookmarked that had b-boy/girl teams - mostly pop lock stuff seems like these websites have a short lifespan as they've all gone 404 I know there's a lot of dance groups out on the West Coast - I can't recall the exact name but there was one group of about five or six guys called Demon Eyez or something they had a few changes in their name over the year but I do recall one clip of them wearing those silver firefighter outfits and doing a routine to a wicked electro track They would always wear masks - one of the coolest groups I've seen in the last five or so years So, if you're holding any links to any electro funk/hip-hop dance groups please pass them on I'm interested in seeing people spin on their heads and do helicopters for hours on end Looking for well thought out routines where they're actually dancing to the music and not just showing off their muscle moves if they're dancing to electro all the better MEK
RE: (313) TitontonDuvanté?
Titonton is studiing these last years, so busy with school...But we made two new tracks a year ago...we have to do one or two other tracks to complete a new e.p ;-)...nothing urgent...it will come later... Fabrice Lig From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) TitontonDuvanté? Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:39:40 -0500 What's he been up to lately? Any new releases? I recall seeing him play at DEMF and since I only own a few records by him I have to ask which of his records does he mix his classical instrumentation in? If I recall he played with a violinist and a operetic vocalist. MEK
