(313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks
Just saw the new VISA commercial on TV with a cartoon worm doing the 
worm and

something about recycling.  Instead of another damn commercial using Jesus
Jones' Right Here Right Now or EMF's Unbelievable or something else that
has been done to death, the commercial uses Afrika Bambaataa  The
Soul Sonic Force's Looking For The Perfect Beat (produced by Arthur I'm
still makin' music Baker and John Robie).
Refreshing.
Andrew

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Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Lugo
Yeah, that commercial was tight. 

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 Just saw the new VISA commercial on TV with a
 cartoon worm doing the 
 worm and
 something about recycling.  Instead of another damn
 commercial using Jesus
 Jones' Right Here Right Now or EMF's
 Unbelievable or something else that
 has been done to death, the commercial uses Afrika
 Bambaataa  The
 Soul Sonic Force's Looking For The Perfect Beat
 (produced by Arthur I'm
 still makin' music Baker and John Robie).
 Refreshing.
 Andrew
 
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 http://myspace.com/andrewduke
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Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 

the commercial uses Afrika Bambaataa  The
Soul Sonic Force's Looking For The Perfect Beat (produced by Arthur I'm
still makin' music Baker and John Robie).
Refreshing.



Refreshing?!  Because some crappy songs are used in most
shite advertising, it legitimizes this ad because they sacrilegiously
chose to use a classic to push their Sh!ttybanking?!
Fnck that concept and fnck tv advertising.  VISA should be
applauded for this lameness?!  No way.

Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.

seek




(313) more from speakeasy

2006-03-30 Thread Simon Kong


 wordy up . 313

   its kind of that time again . new show on Psurkit.net

   this month I visit some of the regular CC haunts like
   Thinner .. Autoplate .. but farther in ..

   Kyoto-sounds are still dealing to my head ' with cotton
   brush dub ' sweeping dusty reverbs around the room

   Unfoundsound Records ' basically just go visit and have a
   listen . its good its worthy ' dry and clicks as rusty joint

   On the more glitch tone ..

   People on the list must know who AGF is ?  .. well she has
   teamed up with Zavaloka ' to create a very unique and rich
   project combining their distinct skills into some of the best
   you can get your ears on ..

   Otherwise I encourage folk to not ignore whats going on in
   the net label world . it may be considered the illegitimate
   child of real music producers and lover ..

But hey . some people think that about Techno

Its good ' it free .. and its breathing new life into the stuffy
anorak worlds of electronic music.

Show notes, Web links and track list below.

Aroha

.simon

 Original Message 

Speakeasy 0X3

http://psurkit.net/show/speakeasy_0X3.php

Consider ' the collaboration between two of our favorite artists ' as they
collide nature and rhythm into this absolute pleasure.  Further '
contained with a brief embrace of words in the certain sound of this
performance.

Turnstyle  Suln ' once again adventure sweet into the depth of digital
disorder.  The hopes of this future reflective in the longevity of
integrity.  We build towards an evolution  from this digital heartland.

:: Visit

www.zavoloka-agf.com
www.thinner.cc
www.flumo.com
www.quietamerican.org
www.unfoundsoundrecords.com
www.audiofoundation.org.nz/remix.php
www.kyoto-sound.com
www.instabil.org
www.one.dot9.ca
www.nzepc.auckland.ac.nz/authors/hyde
www.ropeswingcities.com
www.pentagonik.de

:: Tracklist

KOHAJU -Zavoloka+agf / nature never produce the same beat twice
Traces - Nulleins / Seven Spaces - [THN084]
491- Slick / Urban 90 - [FLM001]
One-minute vacation for August 29, 2005 Greg Weddig 
ochentas hojas secas - barem / unhappy anniversary - [unfound13]
Intermission - Nulleins / Seven Spaces - [THN084]   
filtrate - r  d /  Audio Foundation Remix Project
Vague Times - Mr.Cloudy / Mr. Cloudy - [KY_D010]
rennes le chateaux [stefanik edit] - Marko Fuerstenberg / instabil ep 
[instabil_07]
gnossienne no. 1 - makunouchi bento / trcutu - [one020] 
Zone Red - Move D / 10/11 - Live At Johanneskirche [APL035]
Cool and certain - Robin Hyde / Houses by the Sea : The Beaches - [Poem]
ktx-1- milieu / songs we found in the sand - [rsc002]
The Recurrence - Kairos / Coded Modulations - [pntg005]
void - seph / aires buenos - [unfound 15]   
More Jingles - Sectorchestra / No Morchestra - [THN081]
No More Bubbles Please - Randomajestiq / UnclassifiEP - [APL011]




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Re: (313) OT: Looking For The Perfect Subliminal Seduction? ;)

2006-03-30 Thread seek



Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.


You mean you didn't go out and buy a Ford Focus when they used No  
Ufos in the adverts?



Didn't go out and buy a VW when they (ab)used 'Roman P' ('Roman P',
ferchrissakes?!??!??!?), neither.

Ads cause me to lose focus, not buy Focus.

seek

np: Alan Moore/Oscar Zarate - 'A Small Killing'
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?isbn=1592910092



RE: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Kelly, Stephen
Refreshing?!  Because some crappy songs are used in most
shite advertising, it legitimizes this ad because they sacrilegiously
chose to use a classic to push their Sh!ttybanking?!
Fnck that concept and fnck tv advertising.  VISA should be
applauded for this lameness?!  No way.

Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.

seek


is it only me that finds this a little ironic?..






Re: (313) OT: Looking For The Perfect Subliminal Seduction? ;)

2006-03-30 Thread telepathic
Nobody Abused Roman P .  Gen sold the publishing to it years previously and 
it was a legitimate song licensing.  An ad agency from Boston liked that song 
and put it on the commercial.  I guess the client really liked the spot and 
they ran 2 versions of it a lot.

Now Roman Polanski on the other hand.  He was certainly abused.  He escaped the 
Nazi concentration camps as a little boy.  Only to have his wife and unborn 
child get murdered by the Manson family..

No, that question should really be put to Gen

Are you free ?  Are you really free ?

Gen is in the Auschwitz of his own mind.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist

 -- Original message --
From: seek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.
  
  You mean you didn't go out and buy a Ford Focus when they used No  
  Ufos in the adverts?
 
 
 Didn't go out and buy a VW when they (ab)used 'Roman P' ('Roman P',
 ferchrissakes?!??!??!?), neither.
 
 Ads cause me to lose focus, not buy Focus.
 
 seek
 
 np: Alan Moore/Oscar Zarate - 'A Small Killing'
  http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?isbn=1592910092
 




Re: (313) OT: Looking For The Perfect Subliminal Seduction? ;)

2006-03-30 Thread telepathic
PS.

http://www.genesisp-orridge.com


 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nobody Abused Roman P .  Gen sold the publishing to it years previously and 
 it 
 was a legitimate song licensing.  An ad agency from Boston liked that song 
 and 
 put it on the commercial.  I guess the client really liked the spot and they 
 ran 
 2 versions of it a lot.
 
 Now Roman Polanski on the other hand.  He was certainly abused.  He escaped 
 the 
 Nazi concentration camps as a little boy.  Only to have his wife and unborn 
 child get murdered by the Manson family..
 
 No, that question should really be put to Gen
 
 Are you free ?  Are you really free ?
 
 Gen is in the Auschwitz of his own mind.
 
 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist
 
  -- Original message --
 From: seek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.
   
   You mean you didn't go out and buy a Ford Focus when they used No  
   Ufos in the adverts?
  
  
  Didn't go out and buy a VW when they (ab)used 'Roman P' ('Roman P',
  ferchrissakes?!??!??!?), neither.
  
  Ads cause me to lose focus, not buy Focus.
  
  seek
  
  np: Alan Moore/Oscar Zarate - 'A Small Killing'
   http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?isbn=1592910092
  
 
 




Re: (313) Wang party - Squarepusher/Bolz Bolz

2006-03-30 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

On Mar 29, 2006, at 18:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Squarepusher - Oldschool DJ Set
The legend that is Tom Jenkinson puts down his bass guitar for an  
evening
and takes us on an epic journey through his own personal record  
collection,
encompassing the whole history of 90s dance music from acid house,  
through

essex 'ardkore, to mentalist d'n'b.


i have a feeling that this will definitely be a WANG party. i don't  
trust anyone who spells it 'ardkore


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RE: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Odeluga, Ken

:)

Refreshing?!  Because some crappy songs are used in most
shite advertising, it legitimizes this ad because they sacrilegiously
chose to use a classic to push their Sh!ttybanking?!
Fnck that concept and fnck tv advertising.  VISA should be
applauded for this lameness?!  No way.

Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.

seek


is it only me that finds this a little ironic?..
***

Looks like it Steve! It's about as ironic as a Alanis Morrisette song! 




Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




yeah, I'm sure Bam and Arthur are saying the exact same thing as they go to
the bank with their checks.

MEK


   
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- Original Message -
From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks
 the commercial uses Afrika Bambaataa  The
 Soul Sonic Force's Looking For The Perfect Beat (produced by Arthur
I'm
 still makin' music Baker and John Robie).
 Refreshing.


Refreshing?!  Because some crappy songs are used in most
shite advertising, it legitimizes this ad because they sacrilegiously
chose to use a classic to push their Sh!ttybanking?!
Fnck that concept and fnck tv advertising.  VISA should be
applauded for this lameness?!  No way.

Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.

seek






Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Bam's getting paid twice - once for songwriter/composer and again for
publishing
Visa probably paid out bigtime for that track - look at the number of hands
in that pie!
6 composers and 3 publishers?  That didn't come cheap I can guarantee you.

LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT BEAT V (Legal Title) BMI Work #902951
Songwriter/Composer
Current Affiliation
CAE/IPI #

AASIM BAMBAATAA KHAYAN
ALLEN ROBERT DURRELL
BAKER ARTHUR HENRY
MILLER JOHN B
ROBIE JOHN
WILLIAMS ELLIS

Publishers

BAMBAATAA MUSIC
SHAKIN BAKER MUSIC INC
T GIRL MUSIC LLC

Artists
AFRIKA BAMBAATAA AND THE SOUL SONIC


   
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yeah, I'm sure Bam and Arthur are saying the exact same thing as they go to
the bank with their checks.

MEK



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- Original Message -
From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks
 the commercial uses Afrika Bambaataa  The
 Soul Sonic Force's Looking For The Perfect Beat (produced by Arthur
I'm
 still makin' music Baker and John Robie).
 Refreshing.


Refreshing?!  Because some crappy songs are used in most
shite advertising, it legitimizes this ad because they sacrilegiously
chose to use a classic to push their Sh!ttybanking?!
Fnck that concept and fnck tv advertising.  VISA should be
applauded for this lameness?!  No way.

Turn off, turn 'on', tune 'in' and drop out.

seek








Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread seek


T GIRL MUSIC LLC
===


Tommy Boy Records = T Girl Music:
that's who licensed the track and is making the most money from it.
The others will collect, but Tom Silverman's responsible.

seek



(313) Upcoming excitement in San Francisco this weekend

2006-03-30 Thread tevans1111
Here are some sorta underground or hastily promoted shows coming up this 
weekend in the bay area
Tonight at the RX gallery Rob Hall (skam, gescom) (I saw him after autechre on 
their last tour and he bumped a couple of UR tracks) and dj Slip (missile) 
Satamile records party $5
Saturday night Mark Verbos  and 15 other excellent people (I am playing a tag 
team set of minimal techno) are playing at EGR records anniversary party,  free 
but you must join this list to get on the list http://egr.egregious.net/
Sunday night Dan Bell  John Tejada 4 hour set at bocca, see www.kontrolsf.com
bay area represent.
tom#7


Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Uh, time for you to catch up on history.  Silverman sold the entire back
catalogue of Tommy Boy to Warner-Chappell for less than $10 million.  That
included all the publishing.  T-Girl and T-Boy Music LLC are both owned by
Warner-Chappell.  Silverman had to restart a new business under the name
Tommy Boy Entertainment.  He owns nadda in the publishing rights to Bam's
music.

MEK




   
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T GIRL MUSIC LLC
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Tommy Boy Records = T Girl Music:
that's who licensed the track and is making the most money from it.
The others will collect, but Tom Silverman's responsible.

seek





Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight

Uh, time for you to catch up on history.  Silverman sold the entire back
catalogue of Tommy Boy to Warner-Chappell for less than $10 million.  That
included all the publishing.  T-Girl and T-Boy Music LLC are both owned by
Warner-Chappell.  Silverman had to restart a new business under the name
Tommy Boy Entertainment.  He owns nadda in the publishing rights to Bam's
music.




Great; thanks for the update.  So, then it's Warner-Chappell sold the track.

seek



Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I think you misunderstand how the publishing  licensing business works

MEK


   
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- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight
 Uh, time for you to catch up on history.  Silverman sold the entire back
 catalogue of Tommy Boy to Warner-Chappell for less than $10 million.
That
 included all the publishing.  T-Girl and T-Boy Music LLC are both owned
by
 Warner-Chappell.  Silverman had to restart a new business under the name
 Tommy Boy Entertainment.  He owns nadda in the publishing rights to Bam's
 music.



Great; thanks for the update.  So, then it's Warner-Chappell sold the
track.

seek





Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
What bearing does any of this have on whether licensing your tracks  
for use in advertising is good or bad?


Don't bring up Moby. He targets advertising. It's different.

On Mar 30, 2006, at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you misunderstand how the publishing  licensing business  
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Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Kane's Brain
What bearing does any of this have on whether licensing your tracks  
for use in advertising is good or bad?


Afrika Bambaataa's been tagged as willfully profiting
from the licensing of '...Perfect Beat' for some trash ad.
I doubt that Afrika Bambaataa had anything to do with
making that decision.



Don't bring up Moby. He targets advertising. It's different.



Who's Moby?;)

The OP mentioned how the VISA ad was refreshing.
Interesting choice of words to describe a ~pop~ tv ad:
soda *pop* ads on tv proliferate the use of the word, refreshing.

seek




On Mar 30, 2006, at 15:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you misunderstand how the publishing  licensing business  
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Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/30/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The OP mentioned how the VISA ad was refreshing.
 Interesting choice of words to describe a ~pop~ tv ad:
 soda *pop* ads on tv proliferate the use of the word, refreshing.

believe it or not, the word refeshing was not invented by soda companies.

either which way, i saw that visa commercial the other night and i
thought it was pretty funny. i couldnt remember right away which track
it was, i had to go listen through electro tunes before i could
remember..

its a good song!

tom


Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




You don't get it do you?
Bam owns part of the publishing rights to the music - Warner can't sell the
song to anyone by themselves.
The ad agency that made this had to put a phone call into Warner, Baker,
and Bam (or at least their business people).
Bam knows who he is selling his music to and exactly how much money he is
making on it.

MEK


   
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- Original Message -
From: Matt Kane's Brain
 What bearing does any of this have on whether licensing your tracks
 for use in advertising is good or bad?

Afrika Bambaataa's been tagged as willfully profiting
from the licensing of '...Perfect Beat' for some trash ad.
I doubt that Afrika Bambaataa had anything to do with
making that decision.


 Don't bring up Moby. He targets advertising. It's different.


Who's Moby?;)

The OP mentioned how the VISA ad was refreshing.
Interesting choice of words to describe a ~pop~ tv ad:
soda *pop* ads on tv proliferate the use of the word, refreshing.

seek



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Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I doubt that Afrika Bambaataa had anything to do with
making that decision.

What makes you think this? Because it's an advert and you don't like
adverts therefore Bam shouldn't like adverts?

MEK



Re: (313) Looking For The Perfect VISA commercial? :)

2006-03-30 Thread /0

*goes back to sleep*


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Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
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I doubt that Afrika Bambaataa had anything to do with
making that decision.


What makes you think this? Because it's an advert and you don't like
adverts therefore Bam shouldn't like adverts?

MEK


(313) oh no...

2006-03-30 Thread Peteri, Jochem
sorry guys, everything is true. and also check the schedule, aardvark, peel und 
154 going german for the last time for de:bug
 
be there, its fun
 
 
http://www.de-bug.de/news/3535.html

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