Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/4/06, Alex Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Watching Jeremy Ellis working the MPC is the epitome
> of using that piece of gear live, IMHO. I haven't seen
> it done better.

ill agree with that! the opening bit of his set at movement 03 when he
was rocking the mpc solo was absolutely incredible.

unfortunately shortly thereafter his show devolved into some
show-tunes-esque "soul" stuff that made me get clowned on by anyone i
mentioned how awesome the early part of his set was to.

john arnold live on the midi guitar + mpc aint half bad either!

to


(313) NYC! TUES. NIGHT! Hefty Turns 10 feat: Sakamoto, Prefuse & Geist

2006-04-04 Thread Ray Rodriguez

-- Forwarded Message
From: Other Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:49:21 -0400
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TONIGHT! Hefty Turns 10 feat: Sakamoto, Prefuse & Geist

Dear friends, 

There's little doubt that APT is the place to be for electronic music
fans tonight, as Hefty Records celebrates their 10 Year Anniversary
with a who's who list of producers and DJs providing the soundtrack.
The night is free and you'll want to arrive early for the open bar from 9
to 10PM, and then a very rare DJ set from Ryuichi Sakamoto kicking
the evening into high gear with lots of great names to follow. Here are
complete details and set times:


TONIGHT: HEFTY RECORDS 10TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION!
Tuesday, April 4 
Time: 9PM - 4AM 
Open Bar: 9PM-10PM 
APT: 419 W. 13th St. NYC
http://www.aptwebsite.com


DOWNSTAIRS: 
09:00 PM - 10:00 PM: Scott Mou (Other Music) [DJ]
10:00 PM - 11:00 PM: Ryuichi Sakamoto [DJ]
11:00 PM - 12:15 AM: John Hughes (Hefty label owner/Slicker) [DJ]
12:15 AM - 01:15 AM: Eliot Lipp (Hefty) [LIVE]
01:15 AM - 04:00 AM: Prefuse 73 + Friends [DJ]


UPSTAIRS: 
09:00 PM - 11:00 PM: Blair Carswell (music.for-robots)
11:00 PM - 12:30 AM: Morgan Geist (Metro Area/Environ)
12:30 AM - 02:00 AM: Josh Eustis (Telefon Tel Aviv)
02:00 AM - 04:00 AM: Jeffrey Sfire (Ghostly)



  
 




(313) planet delsin / the sun god

2006-04-04 Thread marsel

voor de a gen d alvast:

zaterdag 13 mei

Planet Delsin:

special guest:

Jamal Moss
aka
The Sun God
aka
Hieroglyphic Being 
Axis/6277 - Ghostly/ Spectral - Gigolo Records
Live Pa ( Drum Computer & Classic Edits ) 
2 hour set



more tba

--
http://nomorewords.net
http://www.delsin.org
http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin


Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Alex Lugo
Watching Jeremy Ellis working the MPC is the epitome
of using that piece of gear live, IMHO. I haven't seen
it done better.

Peace,
Alex

--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 4/4/06, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced
> live.
> >
> > basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting
> tracks
> 
> which essentially is live arranging for the most
> part. although you
> can use some roland drum machines (808, 909
> definitely, not sure about
> the 626 or 707 or any others) in write mode with all
> percussion lines
> and arrangement done on the fly. and of course if
> youre using actual
> synths, you can tweak/program all your sounds live
> too.
> 
> tom
> 


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Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread /0

if you'r;e using x0x gear in write mode, you're missing the boat.

its all about tap input


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?


On 4/4/06, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live.

basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting tracks


which essentially is live arranging for the most part. although you
can use some roland drum machines (808, 909 definitely, not sure about
the 626 or 707 or any others) in write mode with all percussion lines
and arrangement done on the fly. and of course if youre using actual
synths, you can tweak/program all your sounds live too.

tom


Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 4/4/06, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live.
>
> basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting tracks

which essentially is live arranging for the most part. although you
can use some roland drum machines (808, 909 definitely, not sure about
the 626 or 707 or any others) in write mode with all percussion lines
and arrangement done on the fly. and of course if youre using actual
synths, you can tweak/program all your sounds live too.

tom


Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread /0

everythign is pre-written, but part-sequenced live.

basically they are using fx and muting/unmuting tracks


- Original Message - 
From: "Jamil Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?


I'm actually very curious to know what people mean when they say they 
play "live".


What exactly are they playing live?  They only have two hands
For drums, they can play some kind of pattern, but if they're playing 
even close to a whole beat, they'd have no hands left. 

Do they mostly just have some sequencer(s) going and maybe they choose 
which pattern or sequence of patterns will come next?  That's do-able 
with a drum machine. I've never used a hardware sequencer, so I don't 
know if it works the same way.


In short, just how live is "live"?   And why do I get the impression 
live-without-a-laptop is supposed to be more live than with-a-laptop?


thanks,

Jamil




seek wrote:


 http://www.derivativeinc.com/Events/15-Plastikman/
"Richie is using Ableton Live and his new CTRL controller as the 
front-end to Derivative's TouchMixer, which is generating live visuals 
for over 25 Plastikman songs.
Playing a music loop in Ableton also automatically triggers and syncs 
a visual element in TouchMixer, while volume faders and other sliders 
affect details of the visual elements, like brightness or size.
This setup enables Richie to experiment with visual combinations, 
which as a side effect, induces unique sonic combinations.."








Re: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

2006-04-04 Thread Jamil Ali
I'm actually very curious to know what people mean when they say they 
play "live".


What exactly are they playing live?  They only have two hands
For drums, they can play some kind of pattern, but if they're playing 
even close to a whole beat, they'd have no hands left. 

Do they mostly just have some sequencer(s) going and maybe they choose 
which pattern or sequence of patterns will come next?  That's do-able 
with a drum machine. I've never used a hardware sequencer, so I don't 
know if it works the same way.


In short, just how live is "live"?   And why do I get the impression 
live-without-a-laptop is supposed to be more live than with-a-laptop?


thanks,

Jamil




seek wrote:


 http://www.derivativeinc.com/Events/15-Plastikman/
"Richie is using Ableton Live and his new CTRL controller as the 
front-end to Derivative's TouchMixer, which is generating live visuals 
for over 25 Plastikman songs.
Playing a music loop in Ableton also automatically triggers and syncs 
a visual element in TouchMixer, while volume faders and other sliders 
affect details of the visual elements, like brightness or size.
This setup enables Richie to experiment with visual combinations, 
which as a side effect, induces unique sonic combinations.."








(313) 69 - puntang EP

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Herrington
Just got this release at work today.  I won't get to hear it for several
hours...  maybe even a day!  I can't wait that long.  Does anyone have any
thoughts on this EP?

Cheers,

Lee R. Herrington
U STORE IT
Technical Support Engineer

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
440-260-2245





(313) how Richie does it

2006-04-04 Thread seek

 http://www.derivativeinc.com/Events/15-Plastikman/
"Richie is using Ableton Live and his new CTRL controller as the front-end to Derivative's 
TouchMixer, which is generating live visuals for over 25 Plastikman songs.
Playing a music loop in Ableton also automatically triggers and syncs a visual element in 
TouchMixer, while volume faders and other sliders affect details of the visual elements, like 
brightness or size.
This setup enables Richie to experiment with visual combinations, which as a side effect, induces 
unique sonic combinations.."





Re: (313) CD Mixers

2006-04-04 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: "Kent Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: (313) CD Mixers



Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard
to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO.



I think that hits the nail on the head. It's not that hard, but it's also a 
bit boring. When I've used Traktor I just got frustrated by the interface (I 
know there are better ones than a mouse) and Ableton was an endless 
temptation to play four tracks at once - i.e. I was more into making edits 
with it than mixing. When I used Serato, it was an instantaneous way in 
which I could use sound files, and with the price of mp3/wav downloads 
today, it's a real temptation, not to mention leveraging all my old CDs, or 
playing edits I could make in Ableton. The advantage over CD players is that 
you don't have to chose which CDs to bring or try to find the CD, and CDs 
can get scratched quite easily. Ultimately I just found that the process of 
mixing was more fun when I used decks and a mixer, and if that ain't broke I 
shouldn't fix it. Whereas the pain of carrying records and the price of 
buying them is something I can definitely see an advantage in overcoming. 
That said, I do like mixing on CD players, I just think Serato is one step 
better. It's plenty easy to switch between it and vinyl on the fly as well.


Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 



RE: (313) ein mix

2006-04-04 Thread Mislav Bobic
Haven't checked it yet but judging by playlist it must be great!

mislav


-Original Message-
From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 April 2006 21:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
Subject: Re: (313) ein mix

Enjoying this mix a lot, it made the morning train ride from Brooklyn
to Midtown Manhattan less painful.

Cheers,

Adam

On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mix by Peel Seamus & Hendrik
> http://www.spunk.nl/articles/view_article.asp?id=1143199145783
> http://www.spunk.nl/upload/podcast-delsinmix.mp3
>
> Schwarz, Dixon & Ame - Where We At Vs 3
> Laurent Garnier - Barbiturk Blues (C2 Rework)
> Hendrik Schwarz - Leavy My Head Alone (Osunlade Remix)
> Ame - Engoli
> Todd Terje - Italian Stalion
> Trentemoller - Sunstroke
> Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies
> K Alexi - What
> Dj Yoav B. - Organ Satta
> Ron Hardy - Welcome To The Club
> Sound Stream - Freakin'
> Secondo - It's Any Late Time
> Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix)
> Redshape - Coffee And Cigarettes
> Rejected - For The People
> Terry Brookes - City Life (Carl Craig's Caya Dub)
> Kenny Larkin - Catatonic 3rd State (Carl Craig Remix)
> D5 - Run
>
> --
> http://nomorewords.net
> http://www.delsin.org
> http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
>






(313) 28-04-06 Süd Electronic With Daniel Bell , Bruno Pronsato , Portable + More

2006-04-04 Thread lakuti
28-04-06 Süd Electronic With Daniel Bell , Bruno Pronsato , Portable + More

Djs

Daniel Bell   ( Accelerate , 7th City , Plus 8 , Tresor , Peace Frog , Palette
,Logistic ,Telegraph, )
Lakuti( Süd )
Nick Craddock ( nickcraddock.co.uk)
Marco Shuttle ( Mini Sketch , Guerilla Lime & Soda )
Milo Bragg   ( Juno )

Live
Bruno Pronsato ( Musique Risquée , Philpot , Telegraph , Orac , Milnormodern ,
Adjunct , )
Portable( Spectral , Süd , Scape , Background , Context , Karat
)
Visuals By Britski & Squint

Date : 28Th April 2006
Venue : Sub Club 2 Goulston Street , London E1. This a very low key but utterly
charming space with high celings , pillars e.t.c. It is owned by the London
Metropolitan University , so the bar prices will be affordable .
Click on the link below for a map
www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=51.5154&lon=-0.0741&scale=5000&icon=x

Time : 10 pm - 6 am
Door Charge : £10/£8 concession to mailing list subscribers . You Must Email
in your name to be on the concession List !.
Subscribe to our mailing list by emailing
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
infoline
07865 339 311
More On The Artists
Daniel Bell
It is with great exciment to be having this true legend coming to play @ Süd .
Without this man , there might not be minimal techno . !
Born in Sacramento California, Dan had a surprise success with his first 12"
released on +8 records while still in film school near Toronto, Canada in 1990.
 The record was "Technarchy" co-produced by Richie Hawtin and John Aquaviva, and
it spurred a move by him to the "eastside" of Detroit, Mi after graduation.
After touring and recording extensively throughout 1991 and 1992, including a
38-date American tour opening for Moby and The Prodigy, Daniel left +8 to start
his own company, Accelerate Communications in 1992.
With Accelerate he released a small string of influential releases. Based on
nearby Chicago "track" records, he reduced that sound further into funky,
streamlined grooves.  The formula proved to be successful and helped launch a
new aesthetic in techno and house music known as "Minimal".
With the overwhelming success of his "Losing Control" single (an international
underground hit in 1994), Daniel set up Seventh City Distribution.  For the
next four years he worked to assist smaller Midwest labels to get distribution
in overseas markets.  He helped finance the start-ups of several labels
including Anthony Shakir's "Frictional" and Dopplereffekt?s "Dataphysix".  He
also created three new labels - 7th City, which to this day releases
cutting-edge techno music, Elevate (with then unknown house producer Theo
Parrish) and Harmonie Park (originally with Rich Wade). Daniel also co-owned
"Rotate", a record store across the river from Detroit in Windsor Canada for
two years.
Because of the workload of owning and operating many ventures his music
production ceased for a few years.  In 2000 he released his first mix c.d. with
Tresor Records entitled "The Button Down Mind of Daniel Bell" and in a surprise
move relocated to Berlin, Germany.  In Berlin he has developed and promoted new
talent for his 7th City label and has quietly restarted his recording career
with a series of remixes for a diverse range of artists including, John Tejada,
Pantytec, Akufen, and Anthony Shakir.  In February 2003 he released his second
mix cd "The Button-Down Mind Strikes Back" on the Paris-based label Logistic.
Klang Elektronik , also dived into his back catalogue .
Daniel Bell is credited with creating a new vocabulary in electronic music,
composed of acid sounds and streamlined repetitive rhythms, with an approach
based on refinement and economy in the use of effects.his original and
innovative style has influenced a whole generation of producers and has shaped
the minimal house sound . This will be a reall treat . Do Not Miss .!
Click on the Link Below For Dan Bell's  Discography as well as under his other
many alliases .
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dan+Bell
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Daniel+Bell
http://www.discogs.com/artist/DB-X
http://www.discogs.com/artist/DBX

Bruno Pronsato
i must say , that we are really excited to be the first promoters in the UK , to
be flying Bruno Prosanto , Over . I have been trully impressed  by his output ,
so much so , that he has been assigned remix duties for one of our forthcoming
releases . the remix he has done for us is brilliant ! .
Hailing from Seattle USA Bruno Pronsato has released an album and a staggering
number of eps over the past year all to glittering acclaim in the press, most
notably the celebrated 'Ape Masquerade' on Akufen's Musique Risque labelas well
the ep on Philpot .  Pronsato's music combines advanced sound design, robust
mashed electronics and crisp DSP cutups with toughened crunchy 4/4 beats. His
sound takes techno to the outermost regions of weirdness but still gets the
dancefloor bumping and grinding. With a rare panache, Pronsato's productions
freeze your blood as much as they heat a fire under your

Re: (313) CD Mixers

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Smith
If one does not own a laptop that could be an extra cost to consider.

That is not the case for myself, but after staring at a computer
screen for 9 hours a day typing code, and then spending countless
hours working in ableton and surfing the web on my own time, it's nice
to not have to look at a computer screen while DJing, it's my oasis
and escape, and let's my eyes rest and ears work for a change.

I recently heard a friend of a friend dj with traktor and he still
couldn't mix :)
(nothing to do with the software mind you)


On 4/4/06, Kent Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get
> Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to
> mix.
>
> That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because they
> were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and over
> like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo.  I also
> liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the other
> hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing.
>
> Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me
> to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching
> that's inappropriate to the technology.  Traktor is really easy to
> beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching.
> And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with Final 
> Scratch.
>
> Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for
> something that REQUIRES you  to have turntables in order to mix is
> kind of crazy.  That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where
> the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something
> you haul up and down stairs.
>
> Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard
> to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO.
>
> On 4/3/06, Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sup List,
> >
> > anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs
> > on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own?
> >
> > I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range.
> > The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US
> > each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if
> > they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800
> > (around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the
> > CDJ-1000).
> >
> > Thanks for any tips or info,
> >
> > Adam
> >
>


Re: (313) CD Mixers

2006-04-04 Thread Kent Williams
Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get
Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to
mix.

That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because they
were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and over
like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo.  I also
liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the other
hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing.

Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me
to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching
that's inappropriate to the technology.  Traktor is really easy to
beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching.
And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with Final Scratch.

Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for
something that REQUIRES you  to have turntables in order to mix is
kind of crazy.  That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where
the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something
you haul up and down stairs.

Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard
to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO.

On 4/3/06, Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sup List,
>
> anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs
> on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own?
>
> I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range.
> The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US
> each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if
> they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800
> (around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the
> CDJ-1000).
>
> Thanks for any tips or info,
>
> Adam
>


Re: (313) ein mix

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Smith
Enjoying this mix a lot, it made the morning train ride from Brooklyn
to Midtown Manhattan less painful.

Cheers,

Adam

On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mix by Peel Seamus & Hendrik
> http://www.spunk.nl/articles/view_article.asp?id=1143199145783
> http://www.spunk.nl/upload/podcast-delsinmix.mp3
>
> Schwarz, Dixon & Ame - Where We At Vs 3
> Laurent Garnier - Barbiturk Blues (C2 Rework)
> Hendrik Schwarz - Leavy My Head Alone (Osunlade Remix)
> Ame - Engoli
> Todd Terje - Italian Stalion
> Trentemoller - Sunstroke
> Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies
> K Alexi - What
> Dj Yoav B. - Organ Satta
> Ron Hardy - Welcome To The Club
> Sound Stream - Freakin'
> Secondo - It's Any Late Time
> Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix)
> Redshape - Coffee And Cigarettes
> Rejected - For The People
> Terry Brookes - City Life (Carl Craig's Caya Dub)
> Kenny Larkin - Catatonic 3rd State (Carl Craig Remix)
> D5 - Run
>
> --
> http://nomorewords.net
> http://www.delsin.org
> http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
>


Re: (313) CD Mixers

2006-04-04 Thread Kowalsky
I was looking for a CDJ with loops, to use with turntable mixing.  
Found the pioneer 200, bought one.
I'm really happy. They're solid, reliable, got good looping system  
and play MP3. Even mora than i wanted.


Kw

On 04/04/2006, at 00:35, Adam Smith wrote:


Sup List,

anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs
on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own?

I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range.
The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US
each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if
they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800
(around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the
CDJ-1000).

Thanks for any tips or info,

Adam





RE: (313) teaching techno

2006-04-04 Thread Rex Winterbottom
Actually, that's what the last week is about. Praising music that doesn't 
confine itself to categories. And I think along the way they get to see how 
it's all connected. But I definitely hear you, not to be too serious about 
these boxes.


thanks
Rex


First I think kids have the most basic, purest and undiluted of musical
knowledge. They know "what they like" and do not feel compelled to
translate their waveform fascinations into words. Second, I personally
think it would serve the kids and the world at large better to teach
them about the common analogues that run through all the different
genres and give 'em a real understanding of what genres (basically
creations of spin media) are used for (to squeeze more dollars from
those that don't know via magazines and commodities that cater to the
"genre niche". Gotta dress, talk, read, and listen the part). Man for
real, don't teach kids that ish. That's the devils work kid.

Kks
Mwnb






(313) CD Mixers

2006-04-04 Thread Adam Smith
Sup List,

anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs
on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own?

I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range.
The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US
each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if
they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800
(around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the
CDJ-1000).

Thanks for any tips or info,

Adam