Re: (313) mad mike interview link
google pay for play. you might learn something. careful on the replies though tom, this email is the hook, and your reply is the bite. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link On 2/13/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part of the shepherd. think if you want to make a third grade argument out of it, maybe. otherwise, until you prove to me that americans developed all those styles of music amongst other things by being sheep, good luck with that one. try it on an 8 year old instead! tom
Re: (313) mad mike interview link
you'll have to explain this message, r3dshift. it's a bit too cryptic for my feeble brain. thanks, aidan On 14/02/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: google pay for play. you might learn something. careful on the replies though tom, this email is the hook, and your reply is the bite. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) mad mike interview link On 2/13/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: americans are one big flock of sheep, with pop culture playing the part of the shepherd. think if you want to make a third grade argument out of it, maybe. otherwise, until you prove to me that americans developed all those styles of music amongst other things by being sheep, good luck with that one. try it on an 8 year old instead! tom
FW: (313) Carl Craig Remixes
Things that spin off from this one... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2007 16:38 Can I add a vote for some old mixes as still being pretty amazing? Absolutely - this thread was generally active while I was off on holiday so though I read it I couldn't participate. If I had been able to I'd probably said to those who were mystified by others who expressed the opinion that is recent remixes hadn't been up to his own high standards that while some of them may have been OK (Delia and Gavin) there haven't been any BT Relativitys or Incognito Out Of The Storms for a while. I think Tom queried people hating on C2 for being good? I don't think people are hating on him, most people who said his recent stuff was a bit samey still said they'd bought quite a bit of it so that's not hating and the point is that he's not being too good but not as good as usual. Amongst the goodies Tom and Ken quoted were Angola, Tides, Hot On The Heels Of Love and I don't think anyone (well C2 fans anyway!) would disagree these are hot but I don't think these are what people are picking up on as being recent, I think recent means Xpress2, Goldfrapp, Delia and Gavin, Falling Up, etc. (+ add Laurent Garnier) Of these ones Tom says i just didnt buy because they werent very good, not because they sounded the same but I'd tend to agree with others that there is commonality (repeat a simple piece of the original, after a while chuck in a distinctly electronic synth line and then some extra (probably kind of clubby/conga?!) percussion near the end. I'm not saying they're all bad, I bought some and I'd also extend the description to his own Brainfreeze track - which I really like. I think we're all just saying there isn't the (wide) variety to his work there sometimes is at the moment. Let's hope for something that negates this argument completely very soon. I was listening to last.fm yesterday and Carl's remix of Spacetime Continuum's Kairo came on. Still one of my favorite CC mixes ever! Yikes I don't know this one. Now I'm instantly desperate to hear or maybe get it. So Discogs tells me it's on a remixes EP called rEMIT rECAPS? Looked for a copy on GEMM but no joy, I'm guessing it's rare (on vinyl anyway). The only other thing I could see it on was Designer Music V1. I think that's CD only? Anyone know of anywhere else I might find it? mp3 anyone so I can decide whether to start an intensive and possibly expensive hunt? Maybe I'll get a rEMIT rECAPS CD so I can listen. (talking of Discogs, weirdness yesterday, I could only pull up a Carl Craig page that listed Feel The Fire plus 3 or 4 mixes as being the only thing he'd done. I thought no good going on about it on 313 - it's a community, tell them. Today I only get the normal (MASSIVE) page and can't find that other!) Actually I think I'll follow this with another C2 tracks I don't know post...
(313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Hi Francis, im pretty sure that the Pacou mix came from the discogs forum initially - I had a quick search and can find reference to the mix but not a tracklisting, im sure that with a bit more digging you will get it there or on Little Detroit. Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig Remixes
On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (talking of Discogs, weirdness yesterday, I could only pull up a Carl Craig page that listed Feel The Fire plus 3 or 4 mixes as being the only thing he'd done. I thought no good going on about it on 313 - it's a community, tell them. Today I only get the normal (MASSIVE) page and can't find that other!) if you dont log in to discogs, it does that sometimes. its really weird, and there's seemingly no method to the madness, itll just show you a couple releases from certain artists or labels or whatever. tom
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
jeepers, got a link to the mix? On 14/02/07, Ben Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Title says it all really. I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 12s at record shop sites. Often with little reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing that, instead of what I should be, which is: 1. Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening to clips of more stuff to have actually played. 2. Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get more exposure to good records I haven't heard and should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I do from shops. So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday. After a month in Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back. I came on here and said I'd cut and post clips. But surprise, surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to [EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time. Now I've come back from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to know what it is and buy! My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix (I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are. They sandwich one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins. Anyone got a tracklist for this mix? I was frightened when I listened to it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know. The two I'm after are hot.
FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Ben you're THE MAN! Was just searching away on LD (only references to Pacou were tracks of his in mixes) and Discogs (lots of references to him there where it's seems unpopular with a few people!) on BTs advice but was drawing blanks. These are the ones: Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner both on order! Cheers Francis -Original Message- From: Ben Britz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 13:22 T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL Paperclip People - Throw-planet e Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted Psyche-Elements-Planet e Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity Paperclip People-Steam - Open Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon Carl Craig - Technology-planet e Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS 69-rushed-planet e/ R+S Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud Paperclip People - Floor - planet e Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open 69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive BFC - Sleep - beechwood
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the ones: Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner yeah i just got that chez damier in detroit last year on the fresh repress style, one of carl's great mixes for sure. i dont have that reese project, not sure if ive even see that one in particular when digging around. ill have to keep an eye out tom
FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
For Adrian I've stuck it on our site for a little bit. So might as well let you all know in case anyone else wants to grab too. Check that Reese Proj Tom - I must have listened to it on holiday 10 times a day for a few days after I first heard it on the mix. Just thought - wait a minute what if that SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo I was asking about is on there too - checked Ben's tracklist and it is! Off to check check check. http://www.thatamazingthing.com/Mixes/Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks.mp3 -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2007 13:39 jeepers, got a link to the mix? PS. No one's yet I.D.ed that Isaac-Hayes-I-Can't-Turn-Around-based-house-track-that-isn't-J.M.Silk-or-Farley-Jackmaster that I put a snippet of up there a few months back (and got only funny messages off Alex). Come on it was played on DSR by Darryl Wynn - that's 313! http://www.thatamazingthing.com/Mixes/DSRexcerpt.mp3
FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
Re: (313) mad mike interview link
Maybe you didn't say other music from around the world wasn't as great as American forms but you did imply it. Just take a look at the below statements you made during this conversation. MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 05:38:13 PM: On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: traditional musics from all around the world Just because they don't have a global reach (because of a lack of necessity and capitalistic marketing) doesn't mean that, say Gamelan music, isn't as great as American Blues. You have a very ethnocentric view on music. i didnt say it wasnt as great --- Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/13/2007 03:43:46 PM: On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Individuality is not as big a deal in other countries/cultures that have created great music equal to that of America's. name these great musics and compare them to this list: hiphop, soul, blues, funk, disco, house, techno, electro, rock and roll, punk, jazz ---
(313) Cobblestone Jazz live
cobblestone jazz live; not sure if you have seen this, havn't listed to it yet http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson/ On 13/02/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, maybe I have been sleeping on this for a long time... Someone played me a track by Cobblestone Jazz that blew me away. I hate having to compare music, but if I had to, I'd align what I heard somewhere in between Metro Area and St Germain, but it is definitely doing it's own thing. I was surprised to hear that Mathew Jonson is one of the producers. I was never that impressed with his minimal stuff on M_nus but I am glad to hear he has a more 'maximal' side. Has anyone got any recommendations on releases or similar material? N
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
This does not exacly add much to this thread, but here is the link to the original page it is hosted on: http://www.hitechfunk.com/hitechfunk/2006/08/strictly_carl_c.html On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
Thank you so much!!! I've been interested in this mix for about 4 months but could never find a link... ~David On 2/14/07, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This does not exacly add much to this thread, but here is the link to the original page it is hosted on: http://www.hitechfunk.com/hitechfunk/2006/08/strictly_carl_c.html On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)
(313) new mix
i threw this one together to celebrate my day off school, chilling at home during the snow and ice storm. plus, it being valentine's day, you get the theme and title of the mix! this is more cold, dark, and electronic than my other mixes.. http://www.cornwarning.com/tomcox/Thomas_Cox_-_Cold_Heart_Mix_-_02-14-07.mp3 tracklist: Wendy Carlos and Rachel Elkind Rocky Mountains Warner Brothers Jeffrey Osborne Plane Love (Larry Levan Remix) AM Sinnamon Thin Line (Instrumental) Powerhouse Colonel Abrams Trapped MCA Panash Cheval Atavisme Yoko Ono Walking On Thin Ice Geffen The System It's Passion Mirage Erlend Oye Ghost Trains Source Da Rebels It's Time To Jack The House Clubhouse Craig Peyton Be Thankful For What You Got Profile Black Ivory I've Got My Eye On You Panoramic Nancy Martin Can't Believe RFC/Atlantic Kelley Polar Here In The Night Environ newworldaquarium Energy New Religion MEG Kouro (Theo Parrish Remix) Joint thanks to kent yet again for hosting the mix! tom
Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)
no probs, everyone does that. at least you didn't call me aids. thanks for the mix! On 14/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Aidan I meant Aidan not Adrian ;-)