FW: (313) Cobblestone Jazz live
If you haven't got round to this Jimseth and you're still after it Carlos (or anyone else) I've just seen it (and D/Led it myself) on the net at: http://www.esnips.com/doc/4137c765-f34d-4bb8-9487-503c66ed5f74/Gilles-Peterson---Live-on-Radio-1-02-08-2007 -Original Message- From: JSS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2007 11:13 i have this session on my machine at home i will upload it for you in the next couple of days ; ) slim On 2/15/07, Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d*mn, missed it. now there's only last night's show available. hmmm, maybe anyone recorded it? or downloaded it somewhere?
Re: (313) dj set
joe, you sounds bitter. - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: (313) dj set hi fab, thanks for posting this, claudio is one of my favorite DJs!! Im so glad citymorb is still going strong and associating with grade A talent like claudio. you make running a great label look easy. you guys press up 12 slabs of magic - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: (313) dj set some little spam from me too.. Citymorb Dj Claudio Fabrianesi has a mix up at the italian Red Bull Homegroove website, in the We Record You Play section. It's a one hour excerpt for his monthly 4 hour residency at the Blue Room club in Rome. It's full of 313 content and it starts with Dem Young Sconies and ends with Throw.. direct link to the stream: http://www.redbullhomegroove.it/playlist.php?urlfile=Z6dlqWipZtGeX2SUlp2X1mSel5Ob2GHRyaPHo5mQamFoYJhll2Bik5ZeaWKWaGfAYpuaoJ%252FbY8eYpselytCcnW1eaaRvoJOUxw%253D%253D enjoy! fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) dj set
I was paying you a compliment, you damn peasant ;) - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:01 AM Subject: Re: (313) dj set joe, you sounds bitter. - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: (313) dj set hi fab, thanks for posting this, claudio is one of my favorite DJs!! Im so glad citymorb is still going strong and associating with grade A talent like claudio. you make running a great label look easy. you guys press up 12 slabs of magic - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: (313) dj set some little spam from me too.. Citymorb Dj Claudio Fabrianesi has a mix up at the italian Red Bull Homegroove website, in the We Record You Play section. It's a one hour excerpt for his monthly 4 hour residency at the Blue Room club in Rome. It's full of 313 content and it starts with Dem Young Sconies and ends with Throw.. direct link to the stream: http://www.redbullhomegroove.it/playlist.php?urlfile=Z6dlqWipZtGeX2SUlp2X1mSel5Ob2GHRyaPHo5mQamFoYJhll2Bik5ZeaWKWaGfAYpuaoJ%252FbY8eYpselytCcnW1eaaRvoJOUxw%253D%253D enjoy! fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) dj set
oh sorry, must be the language barrier ;) thanks mate f. - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) dj set I was paying you a compliment, you damn peasant ;) - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:01 AM Subject: Re: (313) dj set joe, you sounds bitter. - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:15 AM Subject: Re: (313) dj set hi fab, thanks for posting this, claudio is one of my favorite DJs!! Im so glad citymorb is still going strong and associating with grade A talent like claudio. you make running a great label look easy. you guys press up 12 slabs of magic - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: (313) dj set some little spam from me too.. Citymorb Dj Claudio Fabrianesi has a mix up at the italian Red Bull Homegroove website, in the We Record You Play section. It's a one hour excerpt for his monthly 4 hour residency at the Blue Room club in Rome. It's full of 313 content and it starts with Dem Young Sconies and ends with Throw.. direct link to the stream: http://www.redbullhomegroove.it/playlist.php?urlfile=Z6dlqWipZtGeX2SUlp2X1mSel5Ob2GHRyaPHo5mQamFoYJhll2Bik5ZeaWKWaGfAYpuaoJ%252FbY8eYpselytCcnW1eaaRvoJOUxw%253D%253D enjoy! fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Iridite update
Forwarding on from ex-313er Jason Brunton: We've updated our website and added a myspace site too. www.iridite.com www.myspace.com/iridite cheers Jason
(313) dj sets fabrice lig peel seamus
for a good friday afternoon peel seamus dj set from planet delsin night last week http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/33245040 fabrice lig dj set from planet delsin night last week http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/33245036
Re: (313) Iridite update
oh wow, i had no idea jason had unsubbed thanks for the info david! fab. - Original Message - From: David Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: (313) Iridite update Forwarding on from ex-313er Jason Brunton: We've updated our website and added a myspace site too. www.iridite.com www.myspace.com/iridite cheers Jason
(313) Theo Parrish @ Plastic People this Sunday
Just thought I'd let y'all know in case it slipped under the radar. Got Monday AM booked off and the ticket booked. Looking forward to it! Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
On 2/16/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year yeah it must be terrible putting up with all those detroit artists all the time. you need some white guys up in there too! tom
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
That's a fallacy. DEMF was established to expose Detroit techno/house/etc. to the world and celebrate how it has spread around the world. If that's not what Paxahau intends anymore then they should change the name to the one they've used before - PEMF. I know it's good to incorporate other artists outside of Detroit that have been influenced by Detroit's sounds (see, that's plural - more than one sound). If that didn't continue then there'd be a problem. However, there's also a problem when fewer and fewer Detroit artists are booked for it even though many Detroit artists continue to try to get booked but for some reason or another aren't or aren't even asked. My hope is, the Detroit stage is a place that at any time during the day you can be guaranteed to see a Detroit artist, as opposed to the only place you can see Detroit artists during the weekend. That's not exposure - that's segregation. Like I said, I'm waiting for the announcement that was supposed to happen yesterday and I'm curious as to why it didn't happen. It wasn't even supposed to be the complete line-up, just a few names to whet the appetite. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 03:18:08 PM: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
its paxahau's job to organize the festival as they see fit. if we dont like it, we can vote against it with our wallets. the people that started the festival are out of the picture, and paxahau is under no obligation of any kind to remain true to any ideology associated with the intentions of the original organizers. i understand your point Michael, and all I can say is email paxahau and respectfully open a dialogue with them. they are quite responsive. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? That's a fallacy. DEMF was established to expose Detroit techno/house/etc. to the world and celebrate how it has spread around the world. If that's not what Paxahau intends anymore then they should change the name to the one they've used before - PEMF. I know it's good to incorporate other artists outside of Detroit that have been influenced by Detroit's sounds (see, that's plural - more than one sound). If that didn't continue then there'd be a problem. However, there's also a problem when fewer and fewer Detroit artists are booked for it even though many Detroit artists continue to try to get booked but for some reason or another aren't or aren't even asked. My hope is, the Detroit stage is a place that at any time during the day you can be guaranteed to see a Detroit artist, as opposed to the only place you can see Detroit artists during the weekend. That's not exposure - that's segregation. Like I said, I'm waiting for the announcement that was supposed to happen yesterday and I'm curious as to why it didn't happen. It wasn't even supposed to be the complete line-up, just a few names to whet the appetite. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 03:18:08 PM: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
Let's not rush to judgment on what Paxahau is planning and not planning to do before we get the facts. From what Ive seen they always try to make everyone happy. I for one would not want to be in their shoes. The festival is very special to a lot of people and everyone has strong opinions on how it should be. It is easy to get worked up and emotional over it. It is the highlight of the year for many people. Last year they included a lot of acts who were excluded in the past. Even though most people on this list would agree they booked a bunch of crap last year, you cant argue that some people in Detroit actually like that crap and it represents some of what happens in Detroit throughout the year. They even added acts last year when people complained that some aspects of Detroit werent represented initially. Now if they would only get out to the PPH Lounge and Baker to Baker Hall and book some of those cats! ;) They got Carls, Derricks and Kevins support. If these guys thought Paxahau would take the festival in wrong direction would they all have played last year? I highly, highly doubt that Detroit artists will only be on one stage. Yes, not everyone from Detroit has played the festival, but you cant say that the vast, vast majority of influential Detroit artists havent played at least once. Life isnt fair and someone is always going to feel excluded no matter the situation. I am just thrilled that there will be some sort of announcement on the lineup relatively soon. It isnt even May! They are obviously taking the festival very seriously and putting in the planning and thought it deserves. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:05:36 -0600 That's a fallacy. DEMF was established to expose Detroit techno/house/etc. to the world and celebrate how it has spread around the world. If that's not what Paxahau intends anymore then they should change the name to the one they've used before - PEMF. I know it's good to incorporate other artists outside of Detroit that have been influenced by Detroit's sounds (see, that's plural - more than one sound). If that didn't continue then there'd be a problem. However, there's also a problem when fewer and fewer Detroit artists are booked for it even though many Detroit artists continue to try to get booked but for some reason or another aren't or aren't even asked. My hope is, the Detroit stage is a place that at any time during the day you can be guaranteed to see a Detroit artist, as opposed to the only place you can see Detroit artists during the weekend. That's not exposure - that's segregation. Like I said, I'm waiting for the announcement that was supposed to happen yesterday and I'm curious as to why it didn't happen. It wasn't even supposed to be the complete line-up, just a few names to whet the appetite. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 03:18:08 PM: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
tom, are you feeling some white guilt or what? I dont know what you think is going on in detroit, but at least 80 percent of the people playing electronic music out in detroit every night are white guys. the only reason race continues to be an issue is because of people like you that continue to label people by color, instead of worthwhile attributes. it is neither the desire nor the duty of paxahau or the city of detroit to pander to your inability to cope with reality. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? On 2/16/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year yeah it must be terrible putting up with all those detroit artists all the time. you need some white guys up in there too! tom
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
I will if, after seeing how the Detroit stage and the line-up pans out, I feel they're going off the mark. Last year I did vote with my wallet. I didn't go specifically because I thought their direction was rather questionable, money making or not. It's too bad they're under no obligation to remain true to the ideology and intentions of the original purpose of the festival. That's why I suggest they change the name to PEMF if that's the way they wish to progress. I think this year I would actually attend the festival that Carol Marvin does (gasp!) even though it's primarily a Christian music festival. That line-up had more Detroit artists than the DEMF. Hopefully they'll do it again. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 05:08:10 PM: its paxahau's job to organize the festival as they see fit. if we dont like it, we can vote against it with our wallets. the people that started the festival are out of the picture, and paxahau is under no obligation of any kind to remain true to any ideology associated with the intentions of the original organizers. i understand your point Michael, and all I can say is email paxahau and respectfully open a dialogue with them. they are quite responsive. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? That's a fallacy. DEMF was established to expose Detroit techno/house/etc. to the world and celebrate how it has spread around the world. If that's not what Paxahau intends anymore then they should change the name to the one they've used before - PEMF. I know it's good to incorporate other artists outside of Detroit that have been influenced by Detroit's sounds (see, that's plural - more than one sound). If that didn't continue then there'd be a problem. However, there's also a problem when fewer and fewer Detroit artists are booked for it even though many Detroit artists continue to try to get booked but for some reason or another aren't or aren't even asked. My hope is, the Detroit stage is a place that at any time during the day you can be guaranteed to see a Detroit artist, as opposed to the only place you can see Detroit artists during the weekend. That's not exposure - that's segregation. Like I said, I'm waiting for the announcement that was supposed to happen yesterday and I'm curious as to why it didn't happen. It wasn't even supposed to be the complete line-up, just a few names to whet the appetite. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 03:18:08 PM: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest?
agreed, that was a great line-up if you're looking for the original detroit sound. it looked like it was a really nice event but from what I recall it was horribly underattended. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? I will if, after seeing how the Detroit stage and the line-up pans out, I feel they're going off the mark. Last year I did vote with my wallet. I didn't go specifically because I thought their direction was rather questionable, money making or not. It's too bad they're under no obligation to remain true to the ideology and intentions of the original purpose of the festival. That's why I suggest they change the name to PEMF if that's the way they wish to progress. I think this year I would actually attend the festival that Carol Marvin does (gasp!) even though it's primarily a Christian music festival. That line-up had more Detroit artists than the DEMF. Hopefully they'll do it again. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 05:08:10 PM: its paxahau's job to organize the festival as they see fit. if we dont like it, we can vote against it with our wallets. the people that started the festival are out of the picture, and paxahau is under no obligation of any kind to remain true to any ideology associated with the intentions of the original organizers. i understand your point Michael, and all I can say is email paxahau and respectfully open a dialogue with them. they are quite responsive. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? That's a fallacy. DEMF was established to expose Detroit techno/house/etc. to the world and celebrate how it has spread around the world. If that's not what Paxahau intends anymore then they should change the name to the one they've used before - PEMF. I know it's good to incorporate other artists outside of Detroit that have been influenced by Detroit's sounds (see, that's plural - more than one sound). If that didn't continue then there'd be a problem. However, there's also a problem when fewer and fewer Detroit artists are booked for it even though many Detroit artists continue to try to get booked but for some reason or another aren't or aren't even asked. My hope is, the Detroit stage is a place that at any time during the day you can be guaranteed to see a Detroit artist, as opposed to the only place you can see Detroit artists during the weekend. That's not exposure - that's segregation. Like I said, I'm waiting for the announcement that was supposed to happen yesterday and I'm curious as to why it didn't happen. It wasn't even supposed to be the complete line-up, just a few names to whet the appetite. MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/16/2007 03:18:08 PM: its an electronic music festival in detroit, not a festival of detroit electronic music if it were all detroit, it would be pretty boring for those of us that get nothing but detroit for the rest of the year - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: (313) Paxahau's Detroit stage for this year's fest? It might be too early to get upset about this (I'm sure this will be quoted back to me) ;-) However, I read that Paxahau is going to have a Detroit stage for Detroit artists. Why? It's the Detroit Electronic Music Festival. Shouldn't Detroit artists should be on every stage throughout the weekend? I know it could be seen as highlighting Detroit artists but that's what the whole entire festival is about. So - why sequester the home town peeps to a separate stage? and regarding this ( http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 ) A press release announcing several confirmed artists is planned for Feb. 15. Anything happen? I haven't heard squat and there doesn't seem to be any info on Paxahau's website or anywhere else. MEK
