Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan?
In the end it is the victor who gets to write the history book...So the story that gets told will probably look and feel a bit different than what actually happened. I would take it with a grain of salt considering Eddie's side of the story. I am leaning toward Eddie, Derrick, and Juan all being there at the same time. --Original Message-- From: Fred Heutte To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Nov 26, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan? Of course we've always known that the D in Detroit stands for Drama :) It's a revealing series of comments. I get the impression there is still something of a mini-generation gap. There are those who built the party scene in the early 1980s when DD was the undisputed flagship, and high level of DJ skills and all the party trappings are rightfully points of pride. And there are those who came in later who were starting to focus more on making tracks as well as DJing. But there was a disappointing series of hits on Juan, which at least got a corrective from Mike Clark's precise recounting of the battle-that-couldn't-have-happened. I look through the list of commenters and see so many people who contrbuted to the music that we have all been able to appreciate. There is nothing unusual about competition in a musical context, and all the resentments that build up in a local music scene, well, that's always going to happen. It's just too bad that respect was so hard to earn then, and still is today. fh - >Wow... what a series of comments!!! My entire understanding of the >history timeline has shifted... > >and my favorite part is that Juan says he and Derrick were working >together first before Eddie joined the crew... Eddie is so full of >it, he's always saying he came before Derrick and that he should get >more credit than Derrick, but Juan says right in the interview that >Derrick was first... classic > >~Jodie > >On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, kent williams wrote: >> >> Hoo boy! >> >> http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/10/4/juan-atkins-interview-part-one.html >> >> Comments from Todd Johnson of Direct Drive, Delano Smith, Theresa >> Hill, Al Ester, and Mike Clark. >> >> Apparently they took some exception to some of the stuff Juan said... > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
(313) 69 anyone?
Anyone know where to get Carls 69 series digitally? o On 2009-11-26, at 10:15 PM, fm wrote:
(313) 69 anyone?
Are Carls 69 eps available digitally anywhere? o On 2009-11-26, at 7:53 PM, U&I Design wrote: Wow... what a series of comments!!! My entire understanding of the history timeline has shifted... and my favorite part is that Juan says he and Derrick were working together first before Eddie joined the crew... Eddie is so full of it, he's always saying he came before Derrick and that he should get more credit than Derrick, but Juan says right in the interview that Derrick was first... classic ~Jodie On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, kent williams wrote: Hoo boy! http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/10/4/juan-atkins-interview-part-one.html Comments from Todd Johnson of Direct Drive, Delano Smith, Theresa Hill, Al Ester, and Mike Clark. Apparently they took some exception to some of the stuff Juan said...
Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan?
Of course we've always known that the D in Detroit stands for Drama :) It's a revealing series of comments. I get the impression there is still something of a mini-generation gap. There are those who built the party scene in the early 1980s when DD was the undisputed flagship, and high level of DJ skills and all the party trappings are rightfully points of pride. And there are those who came in later who were starting to focus more on making tracks as well as DJing. But there was a disappointing series of hits on Juan, which at least got a corrective from Mike Clark's precise recounting of the battle-that-couldn't-have-happened. I look through the list of commenters and see so many people who contrbuted to the music that we have all been able to appreciate. There is nothing unusual about competition in a musical context, and all the resentments that build up in a local music scene, well, that's always going to happen. It's just too bad that respect was so hard to earn then, and still is today. fh - >Wow... what a series of comments!!! My entire understanding of the >history timeline has shifted... > >and my favorite part is that Juan says he and Derrick were working >together first before Eddie joined the crew... Eddie is so full of >it, he's always saying he came before Derrick and that he should get >more credit than Derrick, but Juan says right in the interview that >Derrick was first... classic > >~Jodie > >On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, kent williams wrote: >> >> Hoo boy! >> >> http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/10/4/juan-atkins-interview-part-one.html >> >> Comments from Todd Johnson of Direct Drive, Delano Smith, Theresa >> Hill, Al Ester, and Mike Clark. >> >> Apparently they took some exception to some of the stuff Juan said... >
Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan?
Wow... what a series of comments!!! My entire understanding of the history timeline has shifted... and my favorite part is that Juan says he and Derrick were working together first before Eddie joined the crew... Eddie is so full of it, he's always saying he came before Derrick and that he should get more credit than Derrick, but Juan says right in the interview that Derrick was first... classic ~Jodie On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, kent williams wrote: > > Hoo boy! > > http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/10/4/juan-atkins-interview-part-one.html > > Comments from Todd Johnson of Direct Drive, Delano Smith, Theresa > Hill, Al Ester, and Mike Clark. > > Apparently they took some exception to some of the stuff Juan said...
Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan?
Is Mike on here? I can't remember. robin... On 26 Nov 2009, at 23:58, wrote: I hope that goes for all of us. That little sound off was the most 313 thing for ages :-) -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 24 November 2009 11:34 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan? I want to hear that 909 recording that Mike Grant has, that Art Payne talks about!
RE: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's interview with Juan?
I hope that goes for all of us. That little sound off was the most 313 thing for ages :-) > -Original Message- > From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] > Sent: 24 November 2009 11:34 > To: Odeluga, Ken > Cc: Three-One-Three > Subject: Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan Bean's > interview with Juan? > > > I want to hear that 909 recording that Mike Grant has, that Art Payne > talks about!
(313) The Deep End
On a bit of a deep house tip at the moment. The Deep end will be available to download here - http://www.acid-house.net/The_Deep_End.mp3 (from about midnight 26/11/09) Tracklisting Theo Parrish - Solitary Flight - Sound Signature some records Nick Sole - World Dubbing - Mojuba Ill fill in the blanks when i remember what they are after i've listened back to the mix. Threw in a couple of 'keepin' it real mixes' for good measure Done in one hit on 2 x Technics 1210's 320 kbps - 286mb P -- Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
(313) Bleep43 December Party With Surgeon, Patrice Scott, DJ Pete, New World Aquarium & More
Hi, We're carrying on with the pretty much unbroken series of at least one Detroit act in each of our parties over the last year or so. On December 11 we're hosting the UK's Surgeon and Berlin's DJ Pete [Aka Substance] as they bring the rare synergy of their occasional back-to-back session from Berlin to Bleep43 for a second time. We are also very proud to present what will be a session of magical house music and more, from Amsterdam's veteran of the deep, Newworldaquarium. Add to that, we're sure there'll be a fine selection of finely mixed music from the much-in-demand Mr. Patrice Scott. Top things off with Bleep43 DJs and live acts, l and I think it's fair to say we have a special night on offer for the discerning ear and open mind. For more info, please go here: http://www.bleep43.com/events We hope to see some of you there. Thanks, Ken
Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D
Yea don't get me wrong, I'm all about people coming into communities and trying to make a difference, provided they are actually trying to contribute. As far as the squat scene, I have no idea. I've see it a bit here and there in Chicago (artist kids illegally living in storefronts). I do know that regular people end up doing most of the leg work in the U.S. for this kind of thing before officials catch on or are convinced to help. Occasionally developers will give rental discounts to people in the arts when they are trying to build up 'artist neighborhoods' to drive up business, and eventually housing prices. It's a mixture of things happening organically, and then business/political interests becoming involved in order to profit. Neighborhood 'cycles' are a fascinating subject, though, and unfortunately what is considered blighted or bad more often than not is just replaced with white and expensive. Gentrification is happening pretty fast in many U.S. cities, with things headed more towards a Paris-style model of the wealthy living inside the city and the poor pushed to the outlaying city suburbs. It's happening -extremely- fast in D.C., and many Chicago neighborhoods are becoming barely recognizable from 5-10 years ago. Very OT but it's an exciting subject. -Art On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > > It seems like time for some of this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aSypQmLRA > > Albeit sounds more and more ironic every year, to me anyway .. > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:13 PM > To: kent williams; Arturo Lopez > Cc: Three-One-Three > Subject: RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" > about the D > > Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. > This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. > It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. > Is there much of a squat scene in the US? > In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage > arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit > 'declining' neigbourhoods. > This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: > http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ > But it's happening all over: > http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 > To: Arturo Lopez > Cc: Three-One-Three > Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" > about the D > > I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to > Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people > can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation > of new art. > > I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if > you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To > me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all > it's waiting for is the right spark. > > Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and > as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the > world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living > there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, > the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every > 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help > the poorest of the poor. > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez > wrote: >> http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 >> >> Very funny article about Detroit "ruin porn" and all the cleverly >> cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside >> journalists come to the city. >> >> I loved the line about a "bunch of "Billyburg hipsters" moving to the >> city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of >> my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants >> her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. >> >> -Art >> > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is > at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales
RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D
It seems like time for some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aSypQmLRA Albeit sounds more and more ironic every year, to me anyway .. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:13 PM To: kent williams; Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. Is there much of a squat scene in the US? In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' neigbourhoods. This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ But it's happening all over: http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 To: Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez wrote: > http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 > > Very funny article about Detroit "ruin porn" and all the cleverly > cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside > journalists come to the city. > > I loved the line about a "bunch of "Billyburg hipsters" moving to the > city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of > my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants > her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. > > -Art > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D
Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. Is there much of a squat scene in the US? In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' neigbourhoods. This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ But it's happening all over: http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 To: Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez wrote: > http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 > > Very funny article about Detroit "ruin porn" and all the cleverly > cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside > journalists come to the city. > > I loved the line about a "bunch of "Billyburg hipsters" moving to the > city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of > my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants > her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. > > -Art > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of "journalism" about the D
I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez wrote: > http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 > > Very funny article about Detroit "ruin porn" and all the cleverly > cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside > journalists come to the city. > > I loved the line about a "bunch of “Billyburg hipsters” moving to the > city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of > my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants > her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. > > -Art >
RE: (313) New Mike Banks
Apart from that, how did you get through filter? Twe knee dollars says this one won't -Original Message- From: Daniel Troberg [mailto:erasemu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:10 PM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) New Mike Banks perkele! thats some funky shit d On 25 nov 2009, at 22.52, robin wrote: > > Now, I have to admit to loosing a little interest in UR stuff > recently but this sounds promising: > > http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=51508 > > robin *** .mac: erasemusic msn: erasemu...@msn.com aim: erasemusic yahoo: erasemu...@yahoo.com googletalk: erasemusic icq: 344917989 skype: erasemusic www.erasemusic.com www.myspace.com/djerase www.youtube.com/user/erasemusic www.facebook.com/erasemusic www.soundcloud.com/erase ***
Re: (313) New Mike Banks
perkele! thats some funky shit d On 25 nov 2009, at 22.52, robin wrote: Now, I have to admit to loosing a little interest in UR stuff recently but this sounds promising: http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=51508 robin *** .mac: erasemusic msn: erasemu...@msn.com aim: erasemusic yahoo: erasemu...@yahoo.com googletalk: erasemusic icq: 344917989 skype: erasemusic www.erasemusic.com www.myspace.com/djerase www.youtube.com/user/erasemusic www.facebook.com/erasemusic www.soundcloud.com/erase ***
Re: (313) New Mike Banks
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, robin wrote: Now, I have to admit to loosing a little interest in UR stuff recently but this sounds promising: http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=51508 I agree on both opinions. Jussi Lehtonen "Metaprogram yourself."
