Re: The Electrifying Mojo

2020-06-24 Thread Denise Dalphond
The Detroit Sound Conservancy SoundCloud page has some Mojo recordings.
Carleton Gholz and I founded the DSC. He’s responsible for getting and
preserving those recordings, though.

https://soundcloud.com/detroitsoundconservancy

Denise



On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 7:44 PM Reuben Wheeler  wrote:

> Yo 313,
>
> Some archival radio recordings from The Electrifying Mojo and The Wizard
> are available on the below mixcloud channel. When I heard about Mojo some 5
> or so years ago there were really minimal recordings online, despite the
> measure of his influence. I was pretty thrilled to discover more recordings
> were made available.
> https://www.mixcloud.com/tony-romanov/
>
> There must be more recordings about? Anyone care to direct me to them? I
> would also be interested to hear any of the lists reflections on or
> memories of Mojo. I doubt I can still get my MFA ID card but would love to
> have one.
>
> Porch light is ON,
> Reuben
>
>
> --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work


The Electrifying Mojo

2020-06-24 Thread Reuben Wheeler
Yo 313,

Some archival radio recordings from The Electrifying Mojo and The Wizard
are available on the below mixcloud channel. When I heard about Mojo some 5
or so years ago there were really minimal recordings online, despite the
measure of his influence. I was pretty thrilled to discover more recordings
were made available.
https://www.mixcloud.com/tony-romanov/

There must be more recordings about? Anyone care to direct me to them? I
would also be interested to hear any of the lists reflections on or
memories of Mojo. I doubt I can still get my MFA ID card but would love to
have one.

Porch light is ON,
Reuben


Movement Needle Drop

2020-06-24 Thread Denise Dalphond
Did anyone watch Movement’s Needle Drop about social change? I love Seth
Troxler. It’s pretty timely. I mean, you always gotta be educating about
human rights.

And, it’s so fun to listen to artists talk about their art.

Denise
-- 
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work


Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Reuben Wheeler
 I'm really looking forward to checking out those links from the first two
emails. Thanks to Andrew and Denise for sharing. Are there any particular
favourites from those who have got into them?

Sjoerd it seems absolutely WILD to me that you can ostensibly say 'keep
politics out of dance music' (I quote "The last time I've seen talk about
techno music .. well, I can't remember the last time (techno) music",
"Social Justice Bandwagon"). You also speak about racism against white
people because someone said "whitesplaining" - really, now, at a time LIKE
THIS you're making that an issue?! You then sign out "Stay UR", pf. It
looks a certain way. I feel somewhat uneasy that, on a Detroit Techno list,
people are more willing to chip on Denise's tone.

It would probably be better if people managed to find Denise's well meaning
posts less offensive, or simply ignored them. There are certainly those who
find offense way beyond measure. Then the flame war starts. Every time one
of these arguments breaks out the blame is laid by many at her door, often
unfairly. These arguments take up way too much space on the list. There is
little good will between the main participants. Subscribers leave.

I'm not really sure if I have much more to add, that's how it looks to me,
and I would prefer if my minimal list contributions were not exclusively
for the flame war. If it continues please can we maintain perspective:
there are many more important things going on at the moment.

Black Lives Matter,
Reuben

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 00:07, John Sokolowski 
wrote:

> >And about that Techno music.. here's some sweet tunes:
>
> Your descriptions of those tracks sound great. Will check.
>
> >... I like listening to new, good techno music. Don't we all?
>
> The new Moodymann album is excellent IMHO. His best full length in a
> looong time.
>
> Also been digging almost everything on Exalt Records as of late.
>
> W1b0’s new EP Heretofore arrived today and it also very, very good. Plus
> is it is on red marbled wax with Star Wars Death Troopers on the labels!
> Death Troopers! So sick. ;)


Apologies + Playlist

2020-06-24 Thread David A. Powers
First, just want to apologize for my previous outbursts. I was going
through a really hard time, and I was in a seriously bad place, but
nevertheless it was totally uncalled for to blow up at people on the list.
At the end of the day I'm a musician and I'm here to share the music I love
with others, not to indulge in fruitless arguments that get us all pissed
off instead of bringing us together.

To make amends, here's a selection of list appropriate music I've been
listening to recently (RIP Mike Huckaby):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnGAPpntkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXJMZwR_6fM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj97KfjQRGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uNhjyvCL8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptzTSvAyov8

~David


Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread John Sokolowski
>And about that Techno music.. here's some sweet tunes:

Your descriptions of those tracks sound great. Will check.

>... I like listening to new, good techno music. Don't we all?

The new Moodymann album is excellent IMHO. His best full length in a looong 
time.

Also been digging almost everything on Exalt Records as of late.

W1b0’s new EP Heretofore arrived today and it also very, very good. Plus is it 
is on red marbled wax with Star Wars Death Troopers on the labels! Death 
Troopers! So sick. ;)

Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Sjoerd
@Denise no, i haven't read your work; your disseration is not why I signed
up for this list. I just read and see how your occasional tantrums on this
list are rarely about music and are mostly about what *you* did and your
need to best anyone on every subject (a common occurence of people with a
Ph. D.). You add drama in every conversation on here and frankly, I'm
fucking done with this asinine bullshit behaviour. It's not why I'm on
here; I want to read this and enjoy the contributions of people, either it
being about techno or techno related stuff.

@Holly did you really just hurl "whitesplaining" at me? Can I explain to
you how that's racist, or would I be 'whitesplaining' again?
Seriously though; Music is a language and the producers of Techno tell
their story through that. If they'd, or anyone else, feel the need to write
words on it, then they will. But they don't, because they just want to make
the BOOM BOOM BOOM instead of all this YAP YAP YAP.

For both Denise & Holly; if you want to discuss this further, let's take it
to a private place.

@Kent
I don't like bringing this up, but this is THE mailinglist for Detroit
Techno music, right? The last time I've seen talk about techno music ..
well, I can't remember the last time (techno) music was discussed and it
bugs me because I like listening to new, good techno music. Don't we all?

And about that Techno music.. here's some sweet tunes:

*Sansibar - Meri *
A producer from Finland who was born somewhere in Africa. Dreamy, lush pads
and bleeps over a solid deep, driving bass and drum foundation.

*Earth to Mickey - Brace & Bit  *
Hi-energy, funky italo-discoesque track with good synth work and some good
vocals that come with it

*The Advent - Vast*
This is one of those space pod tracks, where you just feel like gliding and
bobbing down the highway of some metallic futureland. Great connector track
to continue unleashing the fury in your DJ set

*Muzz - Bizarre Love Pentangle*
Something I spotted while listening to SomaFM. A real nice blend of
soul/jazz with a twist of electronics. Nice calming down in these strange,
trying times.

Stay UR and hopefully we'll meet on a dancefloor one day


Re: Perspective

2020-06-24 Thread Joe Marougi
Careful with your next reply Philip... 藍

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:56 PM Denise Dalphond 
wrote:

> What do you mean by others? The people who actually created techno?
>
> And, a lot of people like to read. And then, a lot of people like to read
> history.
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:53 PM Philip McGarva 
> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes articles written by others can help our understanding of the
>> stories behind musical activities. But I honestly think the best way to
>> understand the ideas of the musicians is to just listen to the music. All
>> the academia in the world won't give you anything better than the amazing
>> feelings you get from your favourite music. Music is beyond words anyway 
>>
> --
> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> ethnomusicologist
> schoolcraftwax.work
>


Re: Perspective

2020-06-24 Thread Denise Dalphond
What do you mean by others? The people who actually created techno?

And, a lot of people like to read. And then, a lot of people like to read
history.

Denise



On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:53 PM Philip McGarva 
wrote:

> Sometimes articles written by others can help our understanding of the
> stories behind musical activities. But I honestly think the best way to
> understand the ideas of the musicians is to just listen to the music. All
> the academia in the world won't give you anything better than the amazing
> feelings you get from your favourite music. Music is beyond words anyway 
>
-- 
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work


Perspective

2020-06-24 Thread Philip McGarva
Sometimes articles written by others can help our understanding of the
stories behind musical activities. But I honestly think the best way to
understand the ideas of the musicians is to just listen to the music. All
the academia in the world won't give you anything better than the amazing
feelings you get from your favourite music. Music is beyond words anyway 


Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread kent williams
You said it well.

Denise deserves respect and attention.  I've made myself clear in the last
e-mail what I would like to see happen, and now I regret even posting that
on-list.

I'm not going to say any more on this. If anyone wants to e-mail me
directly, I'll read and respond.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:25 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:

> I rarely chime in on the list but trend towards paying attention when I
> can.
>
> For many, it can be really difficult to cut through the 'noise' that
> happens on a daily basis, as we are 100% inundated with information about
> nearly any and every subject we could be interested in, and some we're not.
>
> Maybe the choice of words "perspective" may have been in some ways
> incomplete/misleading, however the intent was understood by me to be one of
> a noble and humble nature.  Most people don't have the time in their modern
> life to collect all of the reading documents and take the deeper dive
> necessary to understand any subject.  Unfortunately, not all techno people
> are academics-but many are curious, which is a great trait for anyone
> academically-minded.
>
> That said, I LOVE  Dr. Denise, and you all should know that she 'keeps
> that same energy' for EVERYTHING...as Ethnomusicology is also her life's
> work.  If many had as much passion and persistence to rely on, we'd all
> probably do much more than we already do.
>
> Fire and emotional content aren't easy things to channel.  It's taken me
> years to learn how to choose when and where I call out things I don't
> like.  I've recently done an interview with Peter Kirn and while I had some
> opportunity to say whatever I chose, I realized that denigrating people can
> be messy.
>
> DWELLER, as a whole, is a useful resource and may get one more person to
> understand better the history of this music and have a better appreciation
> for what makes it special and influential.  We must all learn together,
> those who haven't learned the story should, and those who are attempting to
> be helpful should be encouraged to find other resources that could be more
> relevant if the ones they share are in some way not.
>
> I'm going to say in closing that we all on this list have a duty to
> understand one another.  We have to come together like buttcheeks instead
> of sniping at each other like the outside world does on a daily basis.
> We're all here on this list for the music first-But we can also learn from
> each other.
>
> I sincerely hope all of you are well.  FBK out.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> On the one hand, Denise has valid points.
>>
>> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for
>> the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black
>> artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion.
>>
>> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make
>> without making other people want to leave the 313 list.
>>
>> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
>> anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
>> its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
>> make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
>> uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
>> uncomfortable.
>>
>> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time
>> with complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular
>> list members only see what's on the list.
>>
>> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
>> with black music, and no one should.
>>
>> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
>> you, not about the music or the people.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Allgxxd
>>>
>>> I hear you essay
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
>>> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
>>> >
>>> > -- Forwarded message -
>>> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
>>> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
>>> > To: Denise Dalphond 
>>> >
>>> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
>>> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
>>> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
>>> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
>>> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
>>> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
>>> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
>>> >> professionally. So, s.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
>>> >> 

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Kevin Kennedy
I rarely chime in on the list but trend towards paying attention when I
can.

For many, it can be really difficult to cut through the 'noise' that
happens on a daily basis, as we are 100% inundated with information about
nearly any and every subject we could be interested in, and some we're not.

Maybe the choice of words "perspective" may have been in some ways
incomplete/misleading, however the intent was understood by me to be one of
a noble and humble nature.  Most people don't have the time in their modern
life to collect all of the reading documents and take the deeper dive
necessary to understand any subject.  Unfortunately, not all techno people
are academics-but many are curious, which is a great trait for anyone
academically-minded.

That said, I LOVE  Dr. Denise, and you all should know that she 'keeps that
same energy' for EVERYTHING...as Ethnomusicology is also her life's work.
If many had as much passion and persistence to rely on, we'd all probably
do much more than we already do.

Fire and emotional content aren't easy things to channel.  It's taken me
years to learn how to choose when and where I call out things I don't
like.  I've recently done an interview with Peter Kirn and while I had some
opportunity to say whatever I chose, I realized that denigrating people can
be messy.

DWELLER, as a whole, is a useful resource and may get one more person to
understand better the history of this music and have a better appreciation
for what makes it special and influential.  We must all learn together,
those who haven't learned the story should, and those who are attempting to
be helpful should be encouraged to find other resources that could be more
relevant if the ones they share are in some way not.

I'm going to say in closing that we all on this list have a duty to
understand one another.  We have to come together like buttcheeks instead
of sniping at each other like the outside world does on a daily basis.
We're all here on this list for the music first-But we can also learn from
each other.

I sincerely hope all of you are well.  FBK out.




On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams 
wrote:

> On the one hand, Denise has valid points.
>
> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for
> the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black
> artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion.
>
> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make without
> making other people want to leave the 313 list.
>
> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
> anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
> its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
> make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
> uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
> uncomfortable.
>
> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time with
> complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular list
> members only see what's on the list.
>
> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
> with black music, and no one should.
>
> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
> you, not about the music or the people.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>
>> Allgxxd
>>
>> I hear you essay
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
>> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
>> >
>> > -- Forwarded message -
>> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
>> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
>> > To: Denise Dalphond 
>> >
>> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
>> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
>> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
>> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
>> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
>> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
>> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
>> >> professionally. So, s.
>> >>
>> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
>> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.
>> >>
>> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?
>> >>
>> >> Denise Dalphond
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on?
>> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common
>> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division
>> >> between people by this 

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread kent williams
On the one hand, Denise has valid points.

On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for the
Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black artists,
and has never centered themselves in the discussion.

Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make without
making other people want to leave the 313 list.

I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
uncomfortable.

I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time with
complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular list
members only see what's on the list.

No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
with black music, and no one should.

But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
you, not about the music or the people.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> Allgxxd
>
> I hear you essay
>
> Cheers
>
> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
> > To: Denise Dalphond 
> >
> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
> >> professionally. So, s.
> >>
> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.
> >>
> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?
> >>
> >> Denise Dalphond
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on?
> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common
> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division
> >> between people by this racebaiting.
> >>
> >> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or
> >> White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the
> >> message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of
> >> life.
> >>
> >> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the
> >> subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and
> >> effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move forward
> >> in time, the more I realize that the future about this technological
> >> dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the origins
> >> of Techno in the Motorcity.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do
> >> they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult
> >> website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/
> >>
> >> Denise
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dweller Electronics
> >>
> >> writings from a black perspective
> >>
> >> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles,
> >> interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We have
> >> compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find more
> >> relevant work.
> >>
> >> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
> >> “Audio/Visual”.
> >>
> >> https://dwellerforever.blog/library
> >  --
> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> > ethnomusicologist
> > schoolcraftwax.work [1]
> >
> > Links:
> > --
> > [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work
>
>


Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread cnd

Allgxxd

I hear you essay

Cheers

On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:

Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.

-- Forwarded message -
From: DANIEL BEAN 
Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
To: Denise Dalphond 

Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
ludicrous, especially at the moment.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
 wrote:


Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
professionally. So, s.

Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.

And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?

Denise Dalphond

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd 
wrote:

Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on?
For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common
ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division
between people by this racebaiting.

I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or
White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the
message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of
life.

Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the
subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and
effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move forward
in time, the more I realize that the future about this technological
dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the origins
of Techno in the Motorcity.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond
 wrote:

A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do
they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult
website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/

Denise

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke
 wrote:

Dweller Electronics

writings from a black perspective

Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles,
interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We have
compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find more
relevant work.

It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
“Audio/Visual”.

https://dwellerforever.blog/library

 --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work [1]

Links:
--
[1] http://schoolcraftwax.work




Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Daniel Bean
Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Daniel Bean 
Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
To: Denise Dalphond 


Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore race in
techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is ludicrous,
especially at the moment.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond 
wrote:

> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did you
> know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of Black
> music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that. That’s part of her
> life’s work. And now, since I got to help her with it in graduate school, I
> get to help her update it professionally. So, s.
>
> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.
>
> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?
>
>
> Denise Dalphond
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd  wrote:
>
>> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on? For
>> the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common ground in the
>> beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division between people by
>> this racebaiting.
>>
>> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or White
>> skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the message is
>> T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of life.
>>
>> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the subject of
>> Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and effort to collect
>> them all. Seriously, the further we move forward in time, the more I
>> realize that the future about this technological dystopia was already
>> written way back in the 80's, with the origins of Techno in the Motorcity.
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do they
>>> mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult website:
>>> https://dancecult-research.net/references/
>>>
>>> Denise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke <
>>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dweller Electronics

 writings from a black perspective

 Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, interviews
 and documentaries about techno and its history. We have compiled it into
 this library that will be updated as we find more relevant work.

 It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
 “Audio/Visual”.

 https://dwellerforever.blog/library

 --
> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> ethnomusicologist
> schoolcraftwax.work
>


Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Denise Dalphond
Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did you know
Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of Black music
genres floating around IG and FB? She made that. That’s part of her life’s
work. And now, since I got to help her with it in graduate school, I get to
help her update it professionally. So, s.

Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.

And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?


Denise Dalphond



On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd  wrote:

> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on? For
> the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common ground in the
> beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division between people by
> this racebaiting.
>
> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or White
> skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the message is
> T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of life.
>
> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the subject of
> Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and effort to collect
> them all. Seriously, the further we move forward in time, the more I
> realize that the future about this technological dystopia was already
> written way back in the 80's, with the origins of Techno in the Motorcity.
>
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond 
> wrote:
>
>> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do they
>> mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult website:
>> https://dancecult-research.net/references/
>>
>> Denise
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke <
>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dweller Electronics
>>>
>>> writings from a black perspective
>>>
>>> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, interviews
>>> and documentaries about techno and its history. We have compiled it into
>>> this library that will be updated as we find more relevant work.
>>>
>>> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
>>> “Audio/Visual”.
>>>
>>> https://dwellerforever.blog/library
>>>
>>> --
Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
ethnomusicologist
schoolcraftwax.work


Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-24 Thread Sjoerd
Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on? For the
love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common ground in the
beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division between people by
this racebaiting.

I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or White
skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the message is
T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of life.

Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the subject of
Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and effort to collect
them all. Seriously, the further we move forward in time, the more I
realize that the future about this technological dystopia was already
written way back in the 80's, with the origins of Techno in the Motorcity.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond 
wrote:

> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do they
> mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult website:
> https://dancecult-research.net/references/
>
> Denise
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke 
> wrote:
>
>> Dweller Electronics
>>
>> writings from a black perspective
>>
>> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, interviews
>> and documentaries about techno and its history. We have compiled it into
>> this library that will be updated as we find more relevant work.
>>
>> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
>> “Audio/Visual”.
>>
>> https://dwellerforever.blog/library
>>
>>