Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Ben Britz]

Der klang... is really good. Definitely recommend. Even if its not so detroit 
focused

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 2:32 PM, Shaun Fogarty  wrote:
> 


Nice one, I will try to have a read.



> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block,  wrote:
> hi
> 
> I read good things about 
> https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
>  It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with 
> Detroit too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.
> 
> And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which 
> you could read here:  
> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc.
> 
> Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now on. 
> If no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to Kent for 
> maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate ourselves a 
> little. 
> I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and offensive 
> tones of late. 
> 
> Mario
> 
> Van: David Mansfield 
> Verzonden: vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
> Aan: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Onderwerp: Books on Detriot Techno
>  
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if 
> anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check 
> out.
> 
> Thanks!

Re: "Mad" Mike Banks & Stacey "Hotwaxx" Hale at symposium

[Ben Britz]

that was your first mistake

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:57 PM kent williams 
wrote:

> I have the Internet but you sounded like you had some knowledge and
> context to offer.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM Denise Dalphond 
> wrote:
>
>> Nandi Comer and a bunch of other people. Do you have the internet?
>>
>> Denise Dalphond
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:43 PM kent williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Who are the DJs in Seraphine Collective?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just me but the current music that dominates my listening is
>>> by women, non-binary and queer people.  Octo Octa, Ciel, Ilana Bryne, Eris
>>> Drew, Violet, Ziur, Meemo Comma, Erika.  Most of those people are in the
>>> Detroit scene, per se, but Eris Drew is playing "No Way Back" during
>>> Movement this year, and Violet is playing the Lot Mass after party.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:28 AM Denise Dalphond <
>>> denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 There’s always stuff goin on. Submerge hosts Seraphine Collective, a DJ
 crew 4 women, non-binary, and queer people. Like they practice at Submerge.
 And then, Submerge seems like they have been having some shows, like up and
 coming mostly Black women musicians from Detroit.

 Denise Dalphond


 On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 3:34 AM Andrew Duke <
 andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a teacher and the son of a teacher, it makes me happy when I read
> about ongoing events like this; Mike Huckaby and Terrence Dixon are also
> giving back in their ways. (You can skip the site survey if it prompts 
> you):
>
> https://www.michigandaily.com/section/campus-life/detroit-djs-producers-talk-start-techno-and-bringing-music-education-detroit
>
> Andrew
>
>
> --
 Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
 ethnomusicologist
 schoolcraftwax.work

>>> --
>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>> ethnomusicologist
>> schoolcraftwax.work
>>
>

Re: A: Jacktone Radio guest mix

[Ben Britz]

Gerald Donald's entire career...

On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Joe Marougi  wrote:

So when is it ok to misrepresent yourself or juice off another's persona?  
Where is the line that separates us being dicks to call it out them being 
douches for doing it?

Examples that come to mind:
Moodymanc
Detroit Swindle 
What Oliver $ did
Detroit Soul 
The vocal sample in Los Picaros by Fabrice Lig

Sent from my iPhone, may include typoes. 

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Eamonn Doyle  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I can't think of any good reason for a European male to otherise themselves 
>> and present as a minority woman.  Why? This is exoticizing the other, plain 
>> and simple.  
> 
> 
> What about an African male / South American male ? Japanese male ? He is 
> Dutch - Surinamese as it happens.  A minority woman ? Where ? In whose eyes ? 
> 
> Eamonn / D1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> There is already a dearth of actual women and minorities in the music game, 
>> the last thing we need is dudes pretending to be them.  I'm sure he's a 
>> super nice guy, but it's beside the point.  
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Eamonn Doyle  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On 17 Sep 2016, at 16:55, Arturo Lopez  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It's my understanding this is a Dutch male recording as a woman?, 
>>> > bringing in orientalist nonsense and 'exotic' flavorings for no reason.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you know it was for no reason ?
>>> 
>>> He’s not a wanker actually.
>>> 
>>> FYI -  'What’s a girl to do' was originally released by us on D1 Recordings 
>>> in 2004.
>>> 
>>> Eamonn / D1
> 

Re: (313) roll call?

[Ben Britz]

hello

i lurk in dc, having previously lurked in nyc, toledo, and ann arbor.  dc
has the best weather but the worst techno.  at my age i think that's for
the best

carry on

-ben/bsb


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Allen Goodman allen.good...@me.comwrote:

 I've been lurking since '99.

 While I'm happily in Portland, OR, I miss Detroit and Detroit techno
 everyday.

 Allen

 On Nov 28, 2012, at 9:27 AM, PB textur...@gmail.com wrote:

  Also still lurking.  I think I have been on this list since '98.
 
  Love reading about new releases and upcoming events and the quality
  content that comes from this pool of listserv members.
 
  Now in the SF Bay area... just bought a Juno 106. :)
 
  -Peter
 
  On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Thorin Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've been lurking for a long time, but rarely post. Rarely (like
  apparently now) while I feel like I have something to say.

Re: (313) cults and christianity in techno

[Ben Britz]

i thought he became born again long long after preacher man

i dont think that makes it mocking as much as tongue in cheek. though
he may view the track differently in hindsight

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Firstly... if someone believes something as deeply as scientologists
 believe in their thetans, and christians in christ, and so forth, it
 is their right to include it in their artwork, and may God (should you
 choose to believe in the existence of God) help this country if that
 changes. (Also may he give me the means to beat cheeks to canada.) In
 many cases, for these artistic choices are speculative until you hear
 it from the artist themselves--depending on how obvious the artist
 wishes to make it, if they are engaging in advocacy, or just
 observing, etc.

 Secondly... if it bothers you, in most cases it is not forced on you.
 I'll concede that arguably it is being psuedoforced in a club/DJ
 situation. But if I'm not mistaken you're talking about a record that
 you may or may not choose to buy, in fact correct me if I'm wrong, is
 this one track on the record? You could choose to not play it.

 Thirdly... are you absolutely certain that Green Velvet's Preacher Man
 track is not mocking? I'm kind of shocked, I was certain it was. It's
 just so wacky.

 Just depends on how things are done. I am not bothered by people
 choosing to touch on/discuss/sing/rap about their
 spiritual/metaphysical beliefs in and of itself, not even necessarily
 advocacy.

 Is it a good track or not?

 My 2c.

 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am shocked and amazed at the number of people who are completely
  willing to brush aside the possibility that a techno producer could be
  involved in some mass-marketed new age cult nonsense akin to
  scientology.  Those of you who have tried to push it under the rug or
  dismiss it as an attempt at comedy puzzle me to no end.  And those of
  you who are trying to stifle discussion of it - why?  Why is it so
  terrible to discuss the meaning behind some lyrics, regardless of
  whether they're ironic or serious?
 
  Also, it's no secret that Curtis of Green Velvet/Cajmere fame is a
  born again christian, so whoever said that the preacher track isn't
  serious is mistaken.
 
  --
  peace,
 
  frank
 
  dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 

Re: (313) Derrick May 2000 DEMF

[Ben Britz]

i think he opened with james brown - the payback

but the record you're after i think is bob azzam - batucada por favor
http://www.discogs.com/release/127712

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:14 PM, 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember this being asked at the time and I have checked the 313 archive, 
 but does anybody know the first track Derrick May played at the 2000 DEMF? 
 Somebody wrote in the archives that it's on 'Mr Bongo' but the rest of the 
 details appear sketchy.

 Thanks.

Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF

[Ben Britz]

Is there a lot of drink driving in the US?


yes

On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The reason I've been thinking about it is from watching The Wire and
seeing the state McNulty and Bunk get into before driving home - and
they're cops!


Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
x8599
Hatch Desk x1088
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-Original Message-
From: jwan allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 May 2007 15:34
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Roberto Ty; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List
Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF

Yes there is, regardless of what one thinks a lot is. I once worked for
the DUI office here in Pittsburgh (population including surrounding
counties a little over a million) and the year end fiscal report would
blow your mind. It's a multimillion dollar business, and I mean
BUSINE$$! The recent lowering of the acceptable BAC, has just added more
money to the coffers.


But I digress, I'm really looking forward to this weekend and I'm sure
I'll see many of the attendees on this list at some point.

Drive, Fly, Walk Safely!

jw

On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a lot of drink driving in the US?


 Rob Taylor
 VT Librarian
 x8599
 Hatch Desk x1088
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 -Original Message-
 From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07
 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List
 Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF

 Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses
 and our own vehicles.


  From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100
  To: David Armin-Parcells [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313
  313@hyperreal.org
  Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
  Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
 
  How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then?
 
 
  Rob Taylor
  VT Librarian
  x8599
  Hatch Desk x1088
   VT Library Users' Guide
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55
  To: 313
  Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
 
  good luck getting a cab @ 5am
  even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you...
  public transit is not our strong point in the D
 
 
 
  On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote:
 
  I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some
  advice.
 
  1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a
  streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant.  Trust
  me on this.
 
  Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole  me in
  2003,
 
  and it was relatively cheap to boot.
 
  Have a grand time!
 
  
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Re: (313) Carl Craig tracks I don't know (from Pacou mix)

[Ben Britz]

T.Brookes+A.Soul - City LIfe (Craigs Caya Dub) -RushHour
Carl Craig - 4 My Peepz-planet e
Carl Craig - Darkness/ Angel-planet e
Johnny L - This Time (Craig Mix) - XL
Paperclip People - Throw-planet e
Quadrant - Infinition(Craig MIx)-planet e
Psyche-Andromeda(Craig Mix)-Transmat
SpaceTime Continuum - Kairo Craig Remix-Reflective
Designer Music Vol 1-problemz-planet e
Dave Angel - Take Off (Craig Mix)-Blunted
Psyche-Elements-Planet e
Remake (eich me son sche)-planet e
Carl Craig vs. Johnny Blas - Picadillo 7-ubiquity
Paperclip People-Steam - Open
Inner City - Goodlife (Craig Mix) - Pias
Ultramarine - Hooter(Craig Rmx)-Real Soon
Carl Craig - Technology-planet e
Carl Craig-Climax(reworked)-Open
Chez Damier - Help Myself (Craig Mix)-KMS
69-rushed-planet e/ R+S
Reese Project - I Believe(Craig Dub)-Giant/ Warner
BFC-Static Friendly-Fragile
Designer Music Vol. 1 - Good Girls-planet e
UFO - The Planet Plan (Craig Mix) - talkin loud
Paperclip People - Floor - planet e
Designer Music Vol 1 - Latin Chic behind door#1-planet e
Innerzone Orchestra - nitwit-planet e
Paperclip People - Paperclip Man- Open
69 - Extraterrestial Raggabeats - planet e
Innerzone Orchestra-Bug In the Bassbin - planet e
Carl Craig - No more Words - retroactive
BFC - Sleep - beechwood

On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Title says it all really.

I've said on this list before I seem to spend all my time listening to clips of new 
12s at record shop sites.  Often with little
reward as there doesn't seem that much good new stuff out to justify doing 
that, instead of what I should be, which is:

1.  Listening to the good records I did actually buy but am too busy listening 
to clips of more stuff to have actually played.

2.  Listening to mixes I'd enjoy - and which when I actually do I generally get 
more exposure to good records I haven't heard and
should set about buying (albeit 2nd hand and a bit harder to track down) than I 
do from shops.

So the only time I seem to do 2 above is when I'm on holiday.  After a month in 
Cuba last year I found a load of stuff I want to
know about off those Deep Space Radio shows from a bit back.  I came on here 
and said I'd cut and post clips.  But surprise,
surprise as soon as I'm back in the UK working, going out and listening to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] shop's mailouts I've no time.  Now I've come back
from a month in Brazil with more stuff I've heard on my mp3 player and want to 
know what it is and buy!

My only hope in the most pressing of these cases, 2 tracks from a mix of C2 stuff by 
Pacou called Pacou_-_CarlCraigWorks, is that
rather than me having to get round to posting clips someone else knows this mix 
(I can't remember if I got it off here or somewhere
else) and can tell me what the tracks at about 53 and 58 mins are.  They sandwich 
one of the well known 69 tracks from RS (though I
can't remember which one now) which is on around 55 mins.  Anyone got a 
tracklist for this mix?  I was frightened when I listened to
it as I went in thinking oh yeah I'll know everything on this since I'm a C2 
man but it'll be nice to lay in this hammock listening
to one classic after another only to find quite a few I didn't know.  The two 
I'm after are hot.

Re: (313) Poetry To Music

[Ben Britz]

same poem: ltj bukem - horizons

On 4/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Maya Angelou appears on another record by East Village Loft Society (Ashley
 Beedle) called I Wanna Sing Sunshine
 probalby one of my favorite records in my collection.  The poem is from
 Bill Clinton's inaguration
 http://poetry.eserver.org/angelou.html
 one of those tunes and poems that fills you up with joy

 MEK

 Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/24/2006 10:23:54 AM:

  Well Mike, you could have mentioned your own track: The Struggle Of
  My People, that track is great and features a poem of Maya Angelo (sp?)
 
  http://www.discogs.com/release/3765
 
  KJ
 
 
 
  On 24-apr-2006, at 15:23, Big 50 Entertainment wrote:
 
   There are two tracks here which feature Sky (A Beautiful Thing and
   Sunlight).
   http://emporium50.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
   Screen=PRODProduct_Code=MGCD-2
   Category_Code=MG-CD
  
   She also has a bonus CD included with the Mahogani compilation:
   http://www.discogs.com/release/475075
  
   MG
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:08 PM
   To: 313 list
   Subject: (313) Poetry To Music
  
   Does anyone know of any poetry set to electronic music?
   I wondered if it's been done. I collect these sort of projects -
   traditional poems set to music (as opposed to spoken word). I started
   after buying Nikki Giovanni's album which is stellar. I just got an
   incredible album RADA did a while ago with Shakespeare readings as
   well as some songs - Bryan Ferry sings the immortal Shall I Compare
   Thee... It's more traditional pop, the music, not electronic.
   I realised lately that Propaganda's A Dream Within A Dream is Poe's
   poem set to music (funny, I assumed it was Shakespeare), but want
   other examples.
  
  
  
 

Re: (313) 313 tattoos? Now, I've got one ;)

[Ben Britz]

that would be more a 734 tattoo though

On 4/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Uh, Kiss aren't from Detroit
 if it was a tattoo of the Stooges - then it would be




  fab.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To
seek [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  04/14/06 03:59 PM 313@hyperreal.org
 cc

Subject
Re: (313) 313 tattoos? Now, I've
got one ;)










 i think this is the ultimate 313 tattoo ;)

 
 
 http://www.lcc.edu/lookout/previous_images/old_previous_images/past%20photo%20essay%20photos/photo_48.jpg


 'nuff said.


 ps: yeah kent, in my original post i was speculating about the different
 drexciya graphics would make good tattoo subjects.
 The wavejumper is cool, but i prefer the squid from the The Quest cd if i
 remember correctly

 fab.
 
 CITYMORB MUSIC
 www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 out now: CTM002 SMBP - Stars Falling ep.
 next release: CTM004 Vermont - The Santa Cruz Operation ep.

Re: (313) New Prince

[Ben Britz]

it's ok. musicology was a lot better

On 3/23/06, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That reminds me, anyone heard the new Prince album? Is it a return to
 form? Musicology was supposed to be but it wasn't THAT inspiring.
 I heard a wicked instrumental funk track of his on Gilles Peterson a
 couple of months back, so I have my fingers crossed.

 Oh, and shouldn't he now be called The Artist Formerly Known As The
 Artist Formerly Known As Prince?

 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 March 2006 16:37
 To: list 313; do id
 Subject: (313) Aw Yeah Duran Duran Duran  Jason Forrest in Iowa

 the Artist Formerly Known As Donna Summer, AKA Jason Forrest,
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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

[Ben Britz]

make it stop

On 3/3/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Frankie Bones can be whatever he wants to, as far as DJing:
  he's got gigs.  What do you have?  A big mouth, a keyboard,
  and an interenet connection.
 
  Nuff said.

 and tiesto has even more gigs than frankie does? should i give a sh*t
 about him too? as always, your logic is fantastic. good luck with
 that.

 tom

Re: (313) DE9 Transitions

[Ben Britz]

thought the cd was good, though awfully similar to the hawtin live
sets i've heard recently.  kinda feel like i have about 5 copies of
the same set

i dont know why he included that timewarp footage on the dvd; it looks
terribly boring



On 12/2/05, Benoît Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree. Though the boring aspect can be perceptible at some times, it
 is just due to the fact some of the records are played for a very long
 time while other are just short glimpses. But eh, thats the concept.

 Damn the first 20 minutes of the mix were previewed at Sonar on a really
 grat sounding 5.1 system and they still sound to me the best part of the
 mix  Lot of groove IMO.

 And this Detroit Grand Pubah tracks oh damn i could dance on it for
 hours !

 The end of the mix is more classic and trendy but it becomes
 interesting with this Carl Craig track... Too bad it ends at that time
 on the CD, coz the DVD mix end very very well with a typical 313
 atmosphere IMO.

 So,what i like is not the concept or the track selection (im not a huge
 fan of minimal) but the structure and the groove. Too bad its present
 only in some parts of the mix, that also miss some real peaktime (it
 could actually be the beginning eh !!)

 --
 Benoît.

 Martin Dust a écrit :
  I'm going to have to disagree, the album has plenty of cold machine soul
  and he does keep it interesting, it may not be a giant leap but it fits
  well with his work. It's a great package for 9.99 and I really like the
  12 as well, so there :)
 
  m
 
 
  On 2 Dec 2005, at 15:36, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
 
  Only marginally interesting in concept. Aurally it sucks. No soul. Just
  an abundance of ponderance with a dash of psychedelics and a heaping
  helping of ego. That sounds suspiciously like the recipe for a steaming
  pile of shxt too. Imagine that.
 
  KKS
 
 
 
 
 

Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

[Ben Britz]

well, i would think a lot people shopping for that record or buying
it are lured in by the name, which they associate with the work of
rolando and gerald. thats the basis of trademark infringment

Quoting kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Well i don't think it is a crime to record as Los Hermanos? It
 never
 says that is Los Hermanos, produced by Gerald Mitchell and
 Rolando.


 On 28-jul-04, at 19:08, Ilmar Kerm wrote:

  Hello
 
  What do you think, is this record produced by the real Los
 Hermanos or
  not?
 
  http://www.discogs.com/release/284821
  http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF144759-01.htm
 
  --
  Ilmar Kerm
 
 

Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

[Ben Britz]

This doesnt really matter. trademarks emerge through use, not
registration. if you use the name as the artist and people
recognize the name as the artist, then thats the trademark,
registered or not
Moreover, theres a decent argument that people would assume an
artist called los hermanos is part of the record label (ala UR) -
sort of a variation on the aunt jemima theory of trademarks
(holds that even though aunt jemima is a trademark for pancake
batter, someone else cant use the name to sell syrup)

at least thats what i think i remember from class last semester ;)

Quoting kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  The Los Hermanos of Rolando and Mitchell is trademarked as the
 label
 name, this is an artist who calls himselves Los Hermanos.

RE: (313) London 313 peeps - Fabric

[Ben Britz]

not exactly 313, but is anyone else going to see dj heather and 
christian smith in 2 weeks?

Quoting Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 No - wear what you like - don't bring any glowsticks though!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:51 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) London 313 peeps - Fabric
 
 
 Is there a dress code for the club?
 
 MEK
 
 

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RE: (313) London 313 peeps - Fabric

[Ben Britz]

well, i've seen him far more times than i can count over the last 
few years and thoroughly enjoyed it each time.
to each his own, though

Quoting Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Christian Smith - yeuccch
 Not me.
 Though Heather wasn't bad last time I heard her there
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Britz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:46 PM
 To: Robert Taylor
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) London 313 peeps - Fabric
 
 
 not exactly 313, but is anyone else going to see dj heather and 
 christian smith in 2 weeks?
 
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  Is there a dress code for the club?
  
  MEK
  
  
 

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Re: (313) Re: new Prodigy album

[Ben Britz]

do they, like, sing about feelings and stuff?


Quoting Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 -- Original Message --
 From: DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Yes, I just described one.  You just replied about it.
 
 uh, no. thats mall punk, thats what my little sister listens to.
 
 
 real punk isn't just what X person happens to like, moron.
 
 youre right, its just not MTV/mall/trendy punk. 
 
 tom 
 
 
 andythepooh.com
 
 
  

 

Re: AW: (313) miss kitten ?

[Ben Britz]

Miss Kitten is definitely worth seeing in my book. I dont care for
her production stuff or that 80s/electroclash junk, but she is a
very talented dj. Her sets are mostly euro-techno, with little bits
of electro and more eclectic stuff thrown in to spice it up. More
technasia than larry tee. I'm seeing her friday in DC and am quite
excited about it actually. 
 -bsb


Quoting Carlos de Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 nah, don't expect only electro clash/boring 80s redux.
 her lastest album is excellent, diverse. try this as a review:
 http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=10:pgeq97ydkrjt~T1.
 and if
 she's djing (she can definetely pump the floor) with matthew
 dear, it
 might also go this way round:
 http://www.discogs.com/release/135858. at
 end, you might hope that there is no door to leave. ;)
 
 c.
 
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2004 02:18
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Betreff: Re: (313) miss kitten ?
 
 
 my advice:  go see matthew dear, then make for the door quickly.
 
 - jobot
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:15 pm
 Subject: (313) miss kitten ?
 
  Hey I was hoping that folks on this list would have an opinion
  about whether it is worth going out of my way to see miss
 kitten?  
  It is a pricey show, mathew dear is opening, but it is one of
 only 
  a couple of techno-esque shows that have come to San Francisco
 
  this year.  I don't like electro clash/boring 80s redux at all
 
  (but i like anthony rother), so I haven't really checked out
 her 
  records before.  I generally like to support anything that 
  happens, just because it is happening, but for 20 bones and
 some 
  scheduling conflicts, I need to know if this is something that
 
  will  pump the floor and inspire me musically or be chin 
  scratching paradise and   bore me.  Any thoughts?  Off list.  
  thanks, 
  
 
 

Re: (313) Last Tronic Treatment Party

[Ben Britz]

from all the drunk voicemails i got, it appears it was quite the 
party. i'm told acquaviva and christian both played fantastic sets 
before a very drunk and lewd danny howells closed it, predictably, 
with blue monday.
Quoting Fred Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Did anyone hit the last Tronic Treatment party with Christian
 Smith and Nigel Richards last night?
 
 any reviews?
 

RE: (313) washington dc?

[Ben Britz]

unless you enjoy waving glowsticks to the epic sounds of tiesto, 
it's a wasteland

Quoting LR T [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Unfortunately techno here in DC is slim to non-existent.  There
 are no 
 decent record stores anymore.  There are two larger clubs--Nation
 and Club 
 Five that feature electronic dance music but they mainly book
 house, 
 progressive, trance, or jungle dj's.  Richie and Magda were just
 at Nation 
 last month so I think that was our techno allotment for the year.
  Below is 
 a list of who's playing at local clubs for the next few months:
 
 D:Fuse  Ray Kang
 Sander Kleinberg
 Sasha
 Dimitri from Paris
 Nigel Richards
 Tiesto
 Chris Fortier
 Emma Feline
 Christopher Lawrence
 Danny Howels
 Jimmy Van M
 Paul Oakenfold
 Grooverider
 Feelgood
 Ms. Kitten
 Mark Farina
 Steve Porter
 George Acosta
 Doc Martin
 John Digweed
 Ferry Corsten
 Armin Van Buuren
 Paul Van Dyk
 Bad Boy Bill
 Donald Glaude
 
 
 
 From: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) washington dc?
 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:39:59 +1000
 
 can anyone suggest some decent record stores and/or clubs in
 dc?
 
 i remember someone saying recently onlist that good dance music
 was hard to
 come buy in dc?
 
 there must be something though.
 
 thanks
 rc
 
 
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Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh?

[Ben Britz]

didnt terrence fixmer do a mix album of all this sort of stuff 
recently? anyone buy it?

seems an extension/progression fo the electroclash '80s fixation, 
with dj hell typically out front.


Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 
 
 Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider that to
 be good
 thing then?
 
 Yes - very much so. It's good to hear someone is playing
 something from
 that era besides Nitzer Ebb
 they along with several other groups had a more consistent,
 longer, and
 less one-dimensional career
 
 Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were the
 'big names'
 of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U don't
 have to like
 thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total Age'
 sound like a
 pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or
 'Showtime' and u
 wil hear a different band.
 
 I don't like 'That Total Age' but it does seem to be the only one
 that gets
 played in techno sets.
 I'd love to hear tunes off of their other records within techno
 sets - but
 it doens't happen.
 
 it's always either 'Join in the Chant' or 'Let Your Body Learn'
 that I hear
 
 and yes, I do think they are crap tunes - explain to me what this
 is about
 beyond vague sloganeering.
 If they were trying to mock fascists then Laibach beat them to it
 except
 Laibach has a much better and more fleshed out idea and message.
 If they were trying to be angry but danceable then Front 242 has
 them beat
 there.
 I've never been a fan of bands/artists that have really vague yet
 anthemic
 tunes - especially those that have big chanting sing-along type
 lyrics
 lots of rage (or feigned rage) but what is the target or cause?
 There's
 just nothing there. I just want them to light a joint and calm
 the f*ck
 down - maybe think of something interesting to say while still
 making me
 dance. However the lyrics in these two tunes are about as
 interesting as
 Madonna's.
 
 I read a Amazon customer review that pretty much sums up Nitzer's
 entire
 first album:
 
 NE's approach to things was pretty simple: lay down a pummeling
 beat,
 shout military vocals and lay some simple yet catchy synth hooks
 on top
 
 look at these lyrics:
 
 lies, lies, lies, lies
 gold, gold, gold, gold
 guns, guns, guns, guns
 fire, fire, fire
 
 gold, gold, gold, gold
 judge, judge, judge, judge
 guns, guns, guns, guns
 fire, fire, fire
 
 muscle and hate
 muscle and hate
 muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
 
 lies, lies, lies, lies
 books, books, books, books
 burn, burn, burn, burn
 fire, fire, fire
 
 judge, judge, judge, judge
 gold, gold, gold, gold
 guns, guns, guns, guns
 fire, fire, fire
 
 muscle and hate
 muscle and hate
 muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
 
 join in the chant
 join in the chant
 join in the chant
 join in the chant
 muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
 
 lies, lies, lies, lies
 books, books, books, books
 burn, burn, burn, burn
 fire, fire, fire
 
 guns, guns, guns, guns
 gold, gold, gold, gold
 judge, judge, judge, judge
 fire, fire, fire
 
 muscle and hate
 muscle and hate
 muscle, muscle
 muscle and hate
 muscle and hate
 
 force is machine
 force is machine
 force is machine
 join in the chant
 force is machine
 join in the chant
 muscle, muscle
 
 lies, lies, lies, lies
 books, books, books, books
 burn, burn, burn, burn
 fire, fire, fire
 
 judge, judge, judge, judge
 gold, gold, gold, gold
 guns, guns, guns, guns
 fire, fire, fire
 
 muscle and hate
 muscle and hate
 muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
 
 force is machine
 force is machine
 join in the chant
 force is machine
 join in the chant
 join in the chant
 join in the chant
 join in the chant (muscle)
 muscle, muscle, muscle
 
 fire, fire, fire
 
 join in the chant
 
 
 yeah, whatever.
 
 MEK
 
 
 
  

   Martijn de Blaauw

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
   chline.bizcc:  
 313@hyperreal.org
 
  Subject: 
 Re: (313) Nitzer Ebbeh?  
 
   06/22/04 01:48 AM  

   Please respond to  

   martijn.de.blaauw  

  

  

Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh?

[Ben Britz]

aktion mekanik is what i was thinking of

love that hell disc


Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 He probably did, although i don't have info on it.  I do have an
 excellent
 EBM mix by Hell tho, called electronic body.
 
 Terrance Fixmer did, however, compile a great number of old
 industrial
 tracks (hard to find) dist. by musicman, called Aktion Mekanik.
  It is
 the only way i've been able to get a hold of skinny puppy's
 track
 assimilate.
 
 dense
 
 On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Ben Britz wrote:
 
  didnt terrence fixmer do a mix album of all this sort of stuff
  recently? anyone buy it?
 
  seems an extension/progression fo the electroclash '80s
 fixation,
  with dj hell typically out front.
 
 
  Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  
  
  
   Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider
 that to
   be good
   thing then?
  
   Yes - very much so. It's good to hear someone is playing
   something from
   that era besides Nitzer Ebb
   they along with several other groups had a more consistent,
   longer, and
   less one-dimensional career
  
   Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were
 the
   'big names'
   of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U
 don't
   have to like
   thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total
 Age'
   sound like a
   pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or
   'Showtime' and u
   wil hear a different band.
  
   I don't like 'That Total Age' but it does seem to be the only
 one
   that gets
   played in techno sets.
   I'd love to hear tunes off of their other records within
 techno
   sets - but
   it doens't happen.
  
   it's always either 'Join in the Chant' or 'Let Your Body
 Learn'
   that I hear
  
   and yes, I do think they are crap tunes - explain to me what
 this
   is about
   beyond vague sloganeering.
   If they were trying to mock fascists then Laibach beat them
 to it
   except
   Laibach has a much better and more fleshed out idea and
 message.
   If they were trying to be angry but danceable then Front 242
 has
   them beat
   there.
   I've never been a fan of bands/artists that have really vague
 yet
   anthemic
   tunes - especially those that have big chanting sing-along
 type
   lyrics
   lots of rage (or feigned rage) but what is the target or
 cause?
   There's
   just nothing there. I just want them to light a joint and
 calm
   the f*ck
   down - maybe think of something interesting to say while
 still
   making me
   dance. However the lyrics in these two tunes are about as
   interesting as
   Madonna's.
  
   I read a Amazon customer review that pretty much sums up
 Nitzer's
   entire
   first album:
  
   NE's approach to things was pretty simple: lay down a
 pummeling
   beat,
   shout military vocals and lay some simple yet catchy synth
 hooks
   on top
  
   look at these lyrics:
  
   lies, lies, lies, lies
   gold, gold, gold, gold
   guns, guns, guns, guns
   fire, fire, fire
  
   gold, gold, gold, gold
   judge, judge, judge, judge
   guns, guns, guns, guns
   fire, fire, fire
  
   muscle and hate
   muscle and hate
   muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
  
   lies, lies, lies, lies
   books, books, books, books
   burn, burn, burn, burn
   fire, fire, fire
  
   judge, judge, judge, judge
   gold, gold, gold, gold
   guns, guns, guns, guns
   fire, fire, fire
  
   muscle and hate
   muscle and hate
   muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
  
   join in the chant
   join in the chant
   join in the chant
   join in the chant
   muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
  
   lies, lies, lies, lies
   books, books, books, books
   burn, burn, burn, burn
   fire, fire, fire
  
   guns, guns, guns, guns
   gold, gold, gold, gold
   judge, judge, judge, judge
   fire, fire, fire
  
   muscle and hate
   muscle and hate
   muscle, muscle
   muscle and hate
   muscle and hate
  
   force is machine
   force is machine
   force is machine
   join in the chant
   force is machine
   join in the chant
   muscle, muscle
  
   lies, lies, lies, lies
   books, books, books, books
   burn, burn, burn, burn
   fire, fire, fire
  
   judge, judge, judge, judge
   gold, gold, gold, gold
   guns, guns, guns, guns
   fire, fire, fire
  
   muscle and hate
   muscle and hate
   muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
  
   force is machine
   force is machine
   join in the chant
   force is machine
   join in the chant
   join in the chant
   join in the chant
   join in the chant (muscle)
   muscle, muscle, muscle
  
   fire, fire, fire
  
   join in the chant
   
  
   yeah, whatever.
  
   MEK
  
  
  
  
  
 Martijn de Blaauw
  
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Re: (313) Ritchie and Magda last night in D.C.

[Ben Britz]

i'm definitely looking forward to selway and kitten. hawtin was a
good time, though i've seen him play much better sets. i'm new to
dc, but there is just no techno scene here is there?
btw, i've never before been to a venue where the guy doing the
search has a tip cup, lmfao
-bsb

Quoting Tim Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I had no idea there were other people from DC/MD on this list!
 I'll 
 echo the praise, and add that I hope the crowd response from
 Friday 
 will convince the Buzzlife folks to book more techno in the
 future. 
 They already have Miss Kitten  Selway coming next month...
 -- 
 Tim Moore
 
 On Jun 12, 2004, at 5:56 PM, LR T wrote:
 
  I was there as well and agree, it was a great night.  They were
 both 
  here last summer (well in Baltimore) at a July 4th party and it
 was 
  so-so.  I think that was part of the Control tour and had a
 very 
  different sound/feel.  But last night they were both on and
 played 
  great tracks. Ritchie played hard, reminded me of his sets from
 a few 
  years back. Banging.  Magda pulls out the coolest tracks, her
 style is 
  unique and was a great way to start out the night.
 
  Still smiling about getting too see both of them two weekends
 in a 
  row, first Mutek and then back home in DC.  Unfortunately that
 will 
  probably be it for techno here for a looong time.
  Lara
 
 
  From: Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) Ritchie and Magda last night in D.C.
  Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:14:48 -0400
 
  Hey, just wanted to say that the Ritchie and Magda show last
 night 
  here in DC went really well. We don't get to see either of
 these two 
  around here very often (I think the last time Ritchie played
 here was 
  like 3 years ago), so this was a real treat for us. You
 detroiters 
  get spoiled with the quality of music you have access to :)  
 If you 
  are anywhere near any of the locations for this
 Minimize/Maximize 
  tour, you should really make an effort to come out. -Art
 
 

Re: (313) The Price is Right theme remix/edit?

[Ben Britz]

is that music original to the price is right? i feel like it was 
taken from some old jazz or pop record.

Quoting Nik [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Discogs Community say it all...
 
 6 members have this item
 0 members want this item
 
 Heh heh
 
 N
 
  matt kane's brain[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/06/2004 19:04:14 
 At 01:59 PM 6/3/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Who the hell did that remix/edit dance version of the Price is
 Right game
 show theme?
 
 Crystal Waters!
 
 http://www.discogs.com/release/167288 
 http://www.discogs.com/release/62758 
 
 I only know this because there was a bit done on the original
 theme and 
 this remix on NPR. I swear it!
 --
 unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
 http://www.mkb-dj.org 
 Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

Re: (313) why lie on your bio (Tim Baker)

[Ben Britz]

yeah, i grew up in jackson (ok, brooklyn to be precise) and toledo 
and whenever i'm dealing with people from outside the area i 
usually just say detroit or the detroit area. it's just a handy, 
well-known reference point, not an attempt to decieve people.

Quoting Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Let's back up for a minute.
 
 houseman04:  Did you grow up in Southeastern Michigan?  You
 mentioned 
 that you work in A2, but are you originally from the area?
 
 I can understand that, if you're not from the area, you could see
 this 
 as a potentially divisive and confusing issue.  But it's really
 very 
 common for anyone from basically east of Jackson to the lake (not
 to 
 mention north of Toledo to basically...well, the lake) to refer
 to 
 themselves as from Detroit.
 
 It's not meant to be deceiving.  It's just that the so-called
 metro 
 Detroit area really is thought of as that - satellites around
 Detroit. 
   And the area in question is REALLY large.
 
 When people ask me where I'm from, I tell them Detroit.  (I was
 born in 
 Warren and grew up in Sterling Heights.)  If they then make it
 clear 
 that they're actually familiar with the area, I go into
 suburbs-level 
 detail.
 
 2 more cents,
 
 -- 
 Dennis DeSantis
 www.dennisdesantis.com
 

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson Carl Craig last weekend in London

[Ben Britz]

stacey pullen - phats and small respect the cock at motor in 2001.
4 hours a stunning techno and chicago house, then THAT?!?!?!

also acquaviva playing electric avenue at the demf a few years
ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
really bad

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 BrendanKenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall,
 dropped one
 or
 tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had to
 walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember what
 they
 were...
 
 I remember very little from that night..!
 
 But, while we're on the subject of Kenny Larkin in Liverpool.
 
 Was he just playing records that night? I'm sure he had a re-edit
 of Never
 On Sunday Journey
 (or he was being clever with an fx box). or was he playing cd's
 or with a
 lap-top?
 anyone else seen him on his 'tour'?
 
 Scott - can you remember? or anyone?
 
 Alex
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RE: (313) Jeff Mills comp on Azuli

[Ben Britz]

I really like the DT one, though it took me a bit to warm up to it.
He must have spent an immense amount of time on it because he
re-edits nearly every track and writes a paragrah or two in the
liner notes on each of them. 
Also have the Francois K and DLC discs and they are amazing as well.
Gonna pick up Vega's asap and then Mills.

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 
 
 
 
  there's also a danny tenaglia and tony humphries  comp in the
 series. all
 these choice series of comps are really good, the derrick carter
 is
 brilliant. the frankie knuckles comp has the incomparable 'love
 bug' by
 bumblebee unlimited. the danny tenaglia one is the weakest - but
 it does
 contain two stone cold gems; Tony Cook - On The Floor and Hugh
 Masekela -
 Don't Go Lose It Baby.
 can't wait for the jeff mills.
 james
 www.jbucknell.com
 
 
 
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  
  et  
  
  
   To 
  03/05/04 11:24 PM Robert Taylor 
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
   cc 
Sven Venema   
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  
ThReE-oNe-ThReE
 313@hyperreal.org 
  
  Subject 
RE: (313) Jeff Mills comp
 on Azuli  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 the derrick carter one was loosly 'mixed'
 
 supposed it depends on how mixable the tracks are from one to the
 next.
 
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
 
  It's a compilation, not a mix, I think.
  The previous Choice comps weren't mixed.
  Frankie Knuckles, Derrick Carter and Francois Kevorkian did the
 other
 ones
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sven Venema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:08 AM
  To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE
  Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills comp on Azuli
 
 
  Just now, Robert Taylor wrote:
 
   Ryan just stuck this tracklisting on LD - I think it is part
 of the
  Choice series of comps. It's a good indication of the sets he
 has been
  playing at the Xmas Lost parties over the past couple of
 years:
   CD2
  [deleted]
   Ramirez - El Ritmo Barbaro
   Florence - Analogue Expressions
 
  Eh? That's gotta be an interesting mix :) Thanks for the info!
 
  Sven
 
  --
  Wer't de eangst regearret,
  kriget de leafde gjin kans.
 
 

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RE: (313) Laurent Garnier

[Ben Britz]

i could have guessed he wouldnt be a favorite around these parts,
but generally speaking, people who dont like carl cox need to pick
their heads up from their laptops and remember what clubs are about.
he rocks it. sorry to be harsh, but i just dont get people who
criticize him. then again, to each his own i guess

as for garnier, i find that the eclectic bit of his sets doesnt
change much, but the techno portions (which are what i enjoy) are
generally pretty cutting edge and absorbing, even if he does have
some old favorites - what DJ doesnt? I saw garnier thursday at
centro-fly and thoroughly enjoyed myself. he certainly doesnt come
around often enough for me to get bored

then again, i'm a student, so what do i know...

Quoting martin dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 OK, the first time I saw him was good but since then I've seen a
 lot more
 people, I still go along to see him as a few of the boys love
 him. He just
 bores me to tears, he's like Cox - he's a student DJ for people
 to drunk or
 fcked on class A's. I've seen him twice this year, probably a
 month apart, I
 won breakfast off one friend by naming the next three tracks
 after he
 dropped Red 2.
 
 I understand why people dig him, he's just not for me - I already
 have the
 CD...
 
 Martin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 April 2004 14:57
 To: martin dust
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
 
 
 no- i want to know. maybe its just because i'm bored at work, but
 a little
 debate would be good.
 not looking for a fight, but i'm genuinly curious to know why
 you've
 choosen to stray so far form the pack on this particular DJ.
 
 Unless the whole point is just to stray from the pack. its a
 known disease
 amongst these techno circles
 
 
 On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:
 
  I'm totally chilled, no shouting here, just drinking tea and
 shooting the
  breeze - there's no anger in my words just straight talking.
 I'm no
 cryptic
  hater Y.
 
  There's little point in me saying why I think Larry takes the
 easy way
 out -
  you can't argue with blind faith...
 
  Take it easy...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 26 April 2004 14:46
  To: martin dust
  Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
 
 
  damn fool. i haven't yelled at anyone. (until now)
 
  if you just said- he doens't do it for me, i would except with
 a shrug.
  But you're making cryptic hater statements, like- he takes the
 easy route-
  or whatever it was.
 
  you offer no serious critique nor constructive critisim. just
 vague
  statements. As a person who is often accused of being a hater
 (usually on
  this list) I think I always back up my critism with specifics
 as to why i
  feel that way, and suggestions on what could be done in my mind
  to not
  make me feel that way. You've done none of the above. You're
 just getting
  angry and i don't know why.
 
 
  On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:
 
   I don't hate anyone my friend, you OK up there on your moral
 high
 ground -
   does it look like rain? Wasn't aware that you'd be made judge
 and jury
 and
   had the skills to decide where the line should be drawn. What
 I'm
 offering
   you is only MHO, that's all - nothing more. I've seen Larry
 Gardner
 loads
   and he doesn't rock my boat but he does for others - but then
 again I've
   never run with the pack.
  
   If you can't take other peoples views with all this shout and
 pointing
 it
   may be best to keep quite...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 26 April 2004 13:40
   To: martin dust
   Cc: Kim B; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
  
  
   ok martin-
  
   you have offically crossed the line into hater. I don't even
 know what
 you
   mean by the statement below. does anyone?
  
   btw- this taken from Detroitluv, posted by Mr. Plaslaiko...
  
 -
   the man probably played 50-55 records...
  
   out of those:
  
   nervous acid.
  
   a mr. g record i couldnt identify.
  
   some remix of computer madness.
  
   and a different version of his own the man with the red
 face
  
   outside of that no clue but 90% of it was sweet.
  
 --
  
   must not have been the 'same set' is guess.
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, martin dust wrote:
  
Sure, I just believe he takes the easy way out...IMHO
   
-Original Message-
From: Kim B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 April 2004 10:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier
   
   
but few do... and even fewer do it so smoothly (making you
 feel like
  it's
the only track that would have made sense there).  he's got
 the whole
journey 

RE: (313) That Friday Question

[Ben Britz]

claude's essential underground is amazing. it lacks the mixing flair
of his dj sets, but the tracks are stunning.
 the rok disc is pretty good too, if you like that hard tresor
sound- though there is one monster trainwreck, which he didnt edit out

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 i think that's the sort of faux modesty you get from a lot of
 people when
 they have one particular release that completely overshadows
 everything else
 they've done.
 
 for my nickles, you can't find a better mix CD than Claude's DJ
 Kicks. Not
 only does it define a particularly exciting time in my techno
 education,
 but it also sounds like no othe mix that i know is. It's minimal
 yet slow
 and funky. Totally Detroit, yet when I listen to it now its seems
 to
 foresee a lot of the Perlon, Sender, etc... microhouse sound.
 
 There;s a few other Claude mixes that I enjoy. There;s a house
 music one
 from 1996 radio broadcast floating on P2P. A lot of the others
 tend to be
 blazing techno which isn't my thing.
 
 And there's also the Berlin/Detroit double mix CD (which I think
 was a
 Japanese release) with Claude on one disc and Rok on the other.
 Needless
 to say, the Claude mix is better.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  aha well he mentioned the CD mix...hmmm..Its funy cos as we
 were in the taxi
  I told him that I listened and grew up with the kicks mix and
 said it rocked
  and he said he hated it  and he had much better ones than
 that...well I will see tomorrow :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ed612313 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Fri 02/04/2004 15:13
  To: Martin Dust; 313
  Cc:
  Subject: Re: (313) That Friday Question
 
 
 
  bone, shake, suburban knight, rolando,Buzz Gorree,Titonton
 Duvante, TP,L
  Burden. All would be good. Im not fussy.
  and as for claudes japanese cds being better than hes dj kicks
 one - ive
  heard him mention this before??? he couldnt be talking about
 his DJ F1100
  (sony japan - mixed on cd decks?)??? Ive been trying to find
 out what cds
  hes been talking about for ages. The F1100 is way below what i
 expected
  after hearing/learning/growing up on his dj kicks mix as well
 as loving the
  cenrtal mix. Basically both his studio mixes done on
 turntables destroy his
  2 cd studio mixes. But that could just be me?
  anyway
  peace
  ed
  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:53 PM
  Subject: (313) That Friday Question
 
 
   If I could blag a mix from anyone for Little D, who would
 you have me
  blag?
  
   Martin
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: (313) New York

[Ben Britz]

bs is just doing a one-off this weekend; it wont be running in 5 
weeks. danny krivit has been doing monthly parties at deep, 
however, and there is always shelter

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all
  
 I have a friend who is off to New York in 5 weeks time and I
 wondered if Body  Soul will
 be running then or what be on that has that kinda style..
  
 thanks all
  
 Ian
 

Re: (313) 313 stuff in cleveland, OH?

[Ben Britz]

i had the misfortune of livng there this summer. aside from a few 
mildly entertaining (but prog/tech-house based) nights at abasso, 
there was nothing worth a darn. wound up driving to chicago just 
to hear some quality tunes
 -bsb

Quoting Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
   hi folks.  any of you cats know of any 313 related events,
 gatherings, or
 nights in the 216 area?  anybody?  the only notable club that we
 have around
 here is moda.  i think last night they hosted some
 sahsadickweed
 wank-off.  it seems lately that the only place to absorb some
 quality techno
 is in my car or my attic...  and i'm tired of dealing with the
 bouncers when
 i try to get into my attic.  how did those dudes get in here
 anyway?
 
  cheers,
  lrh