RE: 313 music in the oddest of places.
Yo Logic7, good to hear from you again. Nice find! Yeah, a lot of the Japanese game composers in the early 90’s were listening to records from Detroit and Chicago. Another great example is the Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack from 1992 by Yuzo Kishiro: https://youtu.be/_62PVfghXtc (I dubbed the whole soundtrack from that game to tape so I could listen to it on my Walkman on the school bus) Hearing that stuff when I was 12 and 13 primed me for the Tresor compilations I started picking up when I was 14 and 15. --- Brian Prince brianprince.bandcamp.com bprince.com Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mister Jones Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: 313 music in the oddest of places. Hey y'all... it's the member formerly known as Logic7 I've been on an old video game kick, particularly old vertical shooters like Twin Cobra, Raiden, and the many bullet hell shooters from companies like Cave. While getting my fix I ran across a game called Battle Garegga by Raizing/Eighting. I'm playing for the first time a couple of nights ago in all of it's early bullet hell goodness when I get through the first level. The second level starts and the music changes and a melody of of stab chords starts playing... And I recognize it almost immediately. I played for less than a minute more and had to figure this out 'cause it sounded like a direct rip of something I've heard before. I paused MAME and hit Youtube for old Mills and UR, and I find the track: Jupiter Jazz by Underground Resistance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk More Google-fu turns up the music from Battle Garegga; a double-CD composed by Manabu Namiki, released last December. Among the track listing was the name of the track for the second level of the game: Underwater Rampart (an obvious nod to UR) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA ^^^ That's the original version from the arcade game. The game wold be released for the Sega Saturn with a re-recorded version with different instruments instead of the Yamaha YM2151 4-op, 8 part FM chip used in the arcade game's system board (as well as the Yamaha DX100). With the composer's name, I ran across an interview with him where he states this: http://squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/manabunamiki.shtml "... I held a great admiration for techno music, and I had a good deal of respect for the Detroit techno artists in particular: Derrick May, Underground Resistance, and Carl Craig. The main programmer of Battle Garegga was also a fan of their music. Inspired by their music, I almost felt that I had something of a mission to take that energy and breathe life into the game's music. Battle Garegga used FM synth and ADPCM synth for its hardware. This equipment was obsolete compared to the standards of other arcade games in 1995, so I needed to make full use of it to design the sound for this radical new shooting game. I made use of all the skill I had accumulated with this hardware at NMK, and I also studied Hitoshi Sakimoto's use of FM synth carefully. The sound of Battle Garegga was influenced by my friends at Raizing, by Detroit techno, by Summer Carnival '92 Recca, by FM and ADPCM (YM2151 and MSM6295), and by the game music of Hitoshi Sakimoto and Shinji Hosoe, all of these people and things I respect..." Since he's also done music for Cave (creators of my favorite bullet hell shooters), I'm now on a mission to find anything else he's slipped into his games that have a very Detroit-inspired sound.
The Plan - Plan A
Hey all, good to see some activity here. Speaking of new music: Mr De' just posted a new EP from The Plan, and I'm really feeling the B side: http://electrofunk.com/content/product/the-plan-plan-a/ -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com
Re: new Model 500 album
Yeah, it sounds pretty solid to me. Hard not to smile, listening to that first track. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 13:36:17 -0800, Patrick Wacher wrote: The album seems to be, sonically, a good follow on to Mind Body, more on the tech-funk tip as apposed to the Deep Space style techno. Also it seems he even goes back to his Cybotron days with The Groove, guitar solos for all! From the previews, Control is by far my favourite.
RE: rough track, old-school E-Dancer type stuff
Much thanks L7 (and Andrew). I'm trying to put together another EP for early next year. Don't know if I'll do another self-release like my LP last year, or try to find a label ... either way I'll sheepishly plug it here on 313 when it's available. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:46:22 -0700, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: Great sounding track BP. You're right: very e-dancer-ish. (I think the last track I heard of yours was that Buford joint from some years ago.) -Original Message- From: Brian Prince [mailto:balis...@bprince.com] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: rough track, old-school E-Dancer type stuff http://soundcloud.com/brianprince/f-dancer-rough-work-in-progress Sorry about the low bitrate and lack of download option; I've gotten kind of uncomfortable with the idea of people saving stuff I'm still working on. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com
Re: 313 related internet radio?
I'll second the recommendation for Timeline. Good shxt. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:48:41 +0100, Andrew Green mr.verd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, you could try timeline music there is a live show most evenings 8pm GMT with video, audio and chat hosted but a rosta of mostly vinyl DJ's from around UK and europe. emphasis on techno which equates to a healthy amount of 313 productions and influences. when not live older shows are on stream and you can dip into any of the archives. its all tracklisted too www.timeline-music.net im up this Tuesday ;) A
rough track, old-school E-Dancer type stuff
http://soundcloud.com/brianprince/f-dancer-rough-work-in-progress Sorry about the low bitrate and lack of download option; I've gotten kind of uncomfortable with the idea of people saving stuff I'm still working on. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com
Re: (313) New Records Bandcamp
Thanks for the tips, I'd managed to miss both of those. Here are a couple I did buy recently: Fabrice Lig's 1998 EP Find Your Future (remastered for Bandcamp): http://fabricelig.bandcamp.com/album/fabrice-lig-aka-bug-orchestra-find-your-future-e-p-remastered and Ian O'Briens I was There, 1995-2000 LP: http://ianobrien.bandcamp.com/album/i-was-there-1995-2000 (Ian has a couple other LPs up as well, with all proceeds going to charity) -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:49:32 +, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Thanks for the heads up Brian. Feel it would be rude not to mention Claude Young's new album on bandcamp http://claudeyoungjr-celestialbodies.bandcamp.com/album/celestial-bodies plus a new album from Derek Carr on a space tip ... http://psychonavigation.bandcamp.com/album/derek-carr-binary-son cheers C On 2013-12-19 22:24, Brian Prince wrote: my 13-track LP of Reno/Atlanta/Los Angeles-techno is now only $5 to download ($8 for CD). Terry Mitchell of Timeline Music gave it a very kind review here: http://theelectricunderground.net/eltel/wordpress/?p=10773 [1] Happy holidays, all. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com Links: -- [1] http://theelectricunderground.net/eltel/wordpress/?p=10773
Re: (313) pertin-nce_046 - emmanuel buchanan - resort vacations - free DL
I guess, to me, this list is already waning pretty severely. Banning artists and labels not from Detroit would be akin to pulling the plug on it altogether. You'd get the annual "complain about DEMF" thread and that's about it (not that those aren't entertaining).I would *love* to hear more impressions of new Detroit releases though. My record-buying budget at age 33 is not what it was when I was 23 and single, so I end up missing a lot of worthy material.Just to get under Joe's skin a little (hey, you did say I was too nice a while back :-p), my 13-track LP of Reno/Atlanta/Los Angeles-techno is now only $5 to download ($8 for CD). Terry Mitchell of Timeline Music gave it a very kind review here: http://theelectricunderground.net/eltel/wordpress/?p=10773Happy holidays, all. --Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com
RE: (313) Richie Vegas.
I guess in 10 years I'll be able to catch him here in Reno. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wacher Sent: 10/9/2013 4:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Richie Vegas. Thought this was funny and i thought i'd share... Was listening to my Kraftwerk station on Pandora, and I get a audio ad promoting Richie playing at The Cosmopolitan in Vegas... late night set 3am-5am ;) I guess Vegas is probably the Ibiza of the USA. Certainly not expecting to hear this sort of promotion for Mr. Hawtin, had to laugh none the less. Carry on.
Re: (313) New Track
Hi Tim, on a list this quiet I think the spam bar is set pretty high. I didn't much care for 005, but I genuinely enjoyed 002 and This Aint How It's Gonna Be. Those ones feel a lot more lively; less looped/plodding. Maybe 005 needs some more macro-level progression/structure? I put up a new rough track last Sunday: https://soundcloud.com/brianprince/hypoxia-work-in-progress Dark bubbliness, somewhere in the neighborhood of Optic Nerve. Named it as I did because my city's been choked with smoke from forest fires for the past three weeks. Thanks to everyone who's commented on or purchased the LP. It hasn't exactly sold like crazy, but having only one prior EP to my name (which was spelled wrong on the sticker), and going the Bandcamp route, I kind of expected that. Onwards and funkwards ... -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:48:19 +1000, Tim Morrison tim.morrison...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I hope putting my tracks forward for you all to listen to isn't seen as spamming, I just generally respect the opinion of everyone here. In saying this, I made a new track recently and, as always, would love any feedback. https://soundcloud.com/nikefootwork/005-1 Peace and love, Timmy
(313) Brian Prince The Accretion Disc LP
313'ers, May I humbly submit an LP for your consideration? http://brianprince.bandcamp.com/ The Accretion Disc is a compilation of 13 of my favorite tracks from the past 13 years. Three of them have been released previously on Fabrice Lig's Melodika label (and two were signed to Digital Soul without being released), but most of the material here is on sale for the first time, and everything has received additional mastering and editing for the album. The price of the download version is pay-what-you-want, starting at $6 (US), and 313 list members can use the following discount code for an extra 10% off: 313represent If you don't like how Bandcamp handles streaming previews, there's also a ten-minute sampler -- with bits of each track -- up on my Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/brianprince/the-accretion-disc-lp-sampler Huge thanks to Mr. Andrew Duke for giving the newest track on the album, Barycenter, a spin on his latest show. And thanks all around being such a supportive community over the years. Hope you enjoy the tunes, and sorry for the spam, -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com
Re: (313) No UFO's on the New Dance Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EarSRa19sZc Nice find, thanks. Also, greetings 313. It's been a while. - bp
(313) almost topical
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/21/researchers-condense-entire-image-into-single-photon/ - bp
(313) a couple videos that are techno as funk
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=7032 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPmL-_haRac - bp
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound
kent williams wrote: Honestly, what matters besides the actual compositions? I'm enough of a studio rat to care about things are produced, but the actual method that someone uses is irrelevant, except as it facilitates the result. It's not like you can't make sh*t tracks with analog gear. Self-appointed golden ears dismiss feeling and creativity, because anyone can appreciate those qualities in music (though not always at first blush, since some tastes are acquired), whereas it takes a genuine superior class of lonely douche to prioritize the production pipeline in their evaluation of a record. see also: missing the point of art - bp
RE: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound
Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\) wrote: I'm confused now. Can someone summarise or conclude this thread for me. Is analogue better than digital or vice versa??? Good music is better than bad music. - bp
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.
it's the lifeless,stiff, ear-scratching bright sound that is the problem.. It's possible to make a digital track sound convincingly analog in any decent software package. Soft saturation on the EQ, tape compression, add a little hiss ... nobody will know the difference. Record an analog track to a computer at a sufficient bitrate and it still sounds analog. The set of acoustic characteristics responsible for the old-school flavor are degradations (in the technical sense) which can be applied procedurally in a digital production environment. But I think that the over-use of such techniques is, more often than not, a little tacky. It's like printing a digital painting on canvas to try to make it look like an oil painting. It's difficult to make good, forward-facing art if you're constantly ashamed of the tools you were using. Techno's godfathers were *proud* of the synthetic nature of their instruments. They didn't try to make their strings and basslines sound real. Techno, for me, is about putting the soul of the future in the listener's face. It's about bangin' the robo-beat with whatever you can get your hands on. I draw much of my inspriation from the compositions and feelings of the old-school, not the recording gear and cabling thereof. - bp
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.
v12 wrote: the stuff i got on warp cassettes [tri repetae/chiastic slide] appeared to sound miserable on cd and so on blablabla That's because you're listenting to two different mastering pipelines, dude. Record the tapes to CD and they'll sound identical. Otherwise, I've got a $6000 power cable and some quantum resonance damping audio rocks to sell you. - bp
Re: (313) Digital Downloads
I think I've spent at least $150 at DDV. All of the tracks are available at 320 kbps, and a few as uncompressed WAV files. Unfortunately, the site is still kind of buggity, and the updated are infrequent, which keeps me from spreading the word outside of dedicated 313 circles. Still, I love being able to listen to this stuff without worrying about wearing my records out. I've spent a fair bit at bleep.com too. Always avoided i-tunes, because of the relatively low quality, and less than amazing royalty rates (from what I've gleaned). I'd rather support the little stores anyway. I think techno *needs* digital distribution now. There is a big audience out there that doesn't go to clubs and isn't even aware that vinyl still exists, but they love the music when they hear it. While they'll never be hardcore techno soldiers or join the 313 list, they're a valuable source of revenue and word-of-mouth. - bp
(313) Wherein I praise UR's Scalper
I know this record came out last year, but it seemed like it didn't really get the attention it deserved. The more I listen to the title track the more I love it. It's one of the most *evocative* techno tracks I've heard in years. It manages to mirror Native American music and still be truly techno. Some of the older UR Indian-themed tracks struck me as a little gimmicky, but Scalper . . . the thing positively seethes with deadly intent. A devastating track. It's grown on me like a virus. I only wish it was a couple minutes longer. Check it out on Detroit Digital Vinyl if you slept on it the first time around. - bp
Re: (313) Disco D on CNN
Cyclone Wehner wrote: I think he's doing a few RB acts as well. I imagined he was working with Britney, not K-Fed, as that's what the rumours suggested months back but then he dropped the K-Fed song here and I realised. He's the most atrocious rap artist ever, K-Fed, but the song is OK. I wish him (Disco D) well. Anybody read the interview with him in Urb? Quite revealing, I never imagined. V brave to talk about depression I think. Good on him. Just to clarify the intended tone of my original message on the subject, it's not that I don't wish David success, it's that I worry about him making bad choices in a blind grab for fame. Sometimes the things you do to pay the bills can come back to haunt you, ya know? I mean, everybody's seen that ridiculous video of Federline pretending to work a mixer while bobbing his head to D's production . . . that record will never be more than an industry joke, purely because of its associated with Kevin. I'm not anti-commercial, I just think that over the long run, it pays for an artist to be careful who and what he associates with. -bp
Re: (313) Disco D on CNN
And frankly, if someone came to me and gave me a sack of money and said Make a record with Kevin Federline, hell yeah I'd do it. It would be a surreal experience, and it might be fun. It's honest work that hurts no one. I suppose I do have the benefit of not relying on my music to earn a living. But man do I ever hate that baile funk crap D plays these days. -bp
(313) anyone know what's up with ghettotech.de?
I sure hope it isn't down for the count. -bp
Re: (313) Parliament/Funkadelic One Nation Under a Groove on PBS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone else check that last night? I think it's been on before as my wife recalls viewing it. Very good documentary on the history of the band. It was on the Independent Lens show. Yeah, I saw it a couple weeks ago. Great show! Recommended viewing for anybody into funky music. -bp
(313) got time to vote on a ghettotech track battle?
Hey guys, if you've got some time to kill (probably takes about 40 minutes to listen and vote), there's a big track battle going on over at ghettotech.de, hosted by Guy of the Non-Stop DJs, and we could use some more votes: http://www.ghettotech.de/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2766start=54 There are some pretty awful tracks in there, but a few solid ones, and the worst ones are at least fun to cringe at anyway. You can also download the sample pack, to get an idea of what we had to work with. I can't tell you which one is mine. If you figure it out, please keep it on the down-low, since the contest is supposed to be anonymous. -bp
(313) techno illustrators
Frank Frazetta (Vampirella; Molly Hatchet album covers (!!!)) and Joe Kubert (Sgt. Joe Rock; DC Comics) are definitely *not* techno, though. Frazetta did covers for tons of SF and space opera, including Princess of Mars (techno as f*ck) by Edgar Rice Burroughs. Kubert made my list because he was obviously a big influence on Oldham. Just cuz there's barbarians in somebody's portfolio . . . -bp
Re: (313) space disco
I have to admit to taking some guilty pleasure in recent Lindstrom and co tracks: they're always over-the-top, but have the right spirit. Any other recommendations? Little soulful spacy disco sketch I did over the holidays: http://www.bprince.com/workbench/BrianPrince-MassTransit(unfinished).mp3 People actually read Pitchfork? -bee pee
(313) any stores besides Submerge stocking IF2?
So I am jonesing for my UR fix and Submerge says they're out of stock on the Interstellar Fugitives 2 CD. Are there any other US shops carrying it? -bee pee
Re: (313) Replacing stolen music
I feel for you. My Subaru got broken into last year. Fortunately I didn't have much in the car. They got away with ten bucks in loose change and a copy of the Metro Area LP. They left all my other CDs, presumably because they were more underground-looking. They broke a 240$ window . . . I hope at least somebody's enjoying the Metro Area.
(313) I thought this was interesting
reproduction of vinyl recordings using a flatbed scanner: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~springer/ -bp
(313) FEEL THE POWER OF THE
Well somebody had to finish the lyric. -bp
Re: (313) New Kelli Hand + Kraftwerk stuff
Also got a promo called Trans Slovenian Express. It's remixes of Kraftwerk tracks by Slovenian producers. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but according to the blurb Laibach have decided not to remix a Kraftwerk track. Instead they've done one of their tracks as if Kraftwerk had remixed them. This dates to the mid-90s, I think. Is it getting a re-release or something? I picked up a promo copy in a used record store in Reno when I was 17 or 18. Definitely an interesting record. I'm fond of the speed metal version of Robots. -bp
Re: (313) legit mp3 downloads (artists get PAID)?
Does anyone know if Submerge might be planning on doing this with their back catalog? It seems like a no-brainer to me, and contract issues aside, it's pretty easy to set up shop. -bp the other prince of techno
RE: (313) UR at fuse in download
After listening to the live set I want that Galaxy2Galaxy double CD so baaad. Hurry up and release it, Submerge. I got my wallet out. -bp
Re: (313) tresor pictures of the last days including magda make the tea
but I'd still like to call booty sexist and homophobic. Aaron Carl Down One of the biggest booty anthems of the past couple years, and it's about gay sex. -bp
Re: (313) OOPS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't even read what it says on my records anymore. I just know them by the colors and pictures mostly. Like, I know I have a green Drexciya record. And a blue one. And a couple others, they are in that one crate, hopefully, right next to the stack of books. A little to the left... I'm sort of the opposite of a trainspotter! That's okay. At times my CD collection has been sorted chromatically by spine color. Only way I can reliably find anything. -bp
Re: (313) anyone have a anti-hippie tune?
EAT HOT 30MM URANIUM SABOTS HIPPIES. http://www.bprince.com/balistic-GAU8Avenger.mp3 This is the kind of thing I have to get out of my system every once in a while. Feel free to blackmail me with it ten years down the road. -bp
(313) since it's slow in here
http://www.bprince.com/BrianPrince-BufordHighwayPreview.mp3 -bp
RE: (313) Mad Mike Unmasked (was Los Hermanos)
Stoddard, Kamal said: Dang, I guess I better return my custom lucha mask with the blue flames diamonds on it. I'm keeping the yellow glitter laces though. Man! And I was looking forward to ushering in the era of disconnected bling techno. Guess this capes no good anymore either eh? Oh it was /you/ walking down Peachtree in that get-up. I was blinded and almost hit a lamp post. -bp
Re: (313) The Crisis in Detroit
atomly said: http://tinyurl.com/4nagx How long until OCP takes over the city government and starts installing ED-209 units downtown? -bp
Re: (313) I-F live on C-B-S
J.T. said: every friday night (afternoon/morning in the USA) is request time on C-B-S, and I-F mixes live... that means right now! http://www.cbs.nu/ i highly reccomend you listen if you can...super eclectic, super music...and I-F crackin me up with his commentary... what a way to end a week, ah hahhah, thanks for the tip. This'll help pass the last few hours at work.
(313) STOP!
... hammer time. -bp
Re: (313) Syd Mead in Detroit
The man was designing things in 1962 that still look futuristic today. Not quaint, retro futuristic, but genuinely, mind-f*ckingly ahead of their time. Mead is definitely a silent partner in the development of techno, both through his connections to sci-fi, and the work he did for the automotive industry.
