RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Ok, So if anyone would like to organize a 10th anniversary 313 party actually in Detroit I am willing to provide a legit all night space and sound. Please contact off list. Thanks Raph -Souldegmusic.com
RE: (313) when I grow up....../ Ableton controllers
The Peavey PC1600 has been the standard for midi control of anything for a while. It has high resolution faders (you can actually gang them so one starts where the previous one ends) and is fully programmable via PC front end(which includes SYSEX commands for live control of synths etc). The things built like a tank and no studio should be without one. The Evolution controllers are pretty nice (I have a UC-16 that I use constantly) and they actually make the green commercially available ableton one (I believe it's the same thing as the UC-33e). I don't find it limiting as far as control channels at all since it has a very easy patch memory which requires a single press to switch scenes. PC1600: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040719093926004229027170143310/g=key /s=midi/search/detail/base_pid/703374/ UC33e: (has overlays too:) http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040719093926004229027170143310/g=key /s=midi/search/detail/base_pid/701523/ -raph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) when I grow up../ Ableton controllers Doepfer sells their raw controller hardware so tha tyou can make custom thingers yourself: Cheers Kent. I'd love to have a go, but I'm pretty sure I'd make a mess. I really want to get a controller for Ableton. I've been thinking about selling a chunk of records to fund it. I've had a look on the market though, and the selection seems pretty poor. Even the custom built one hasn't got that many controllers on it. (the one with the ableton 'skin') I reckon to get super busy with it you need more. Anyone else find this? Or,has anyone found one they're really happy with? Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
Hehe. Word to that. I think our tea drinking fans over the pond would refer to it as shite -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 2:07 PM To: Cyclone Wehner Cc: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice he sucks On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: He's amazing. God, where do you start? It's not just production, he's an MC, but it's more confessional (?) than your lyrical MC. He has a real humour and candour in his work - as exemplified by his single Jesus Walks. He's conscious but not afraid to be inconsistent as most people are. His album is The College Dropout and he masterminded the old soul feel of The Blueprint, arguably the best Jay-Z album, Alicia Keys' You Don't Know My Name, Janet's I Want You (only decent song on her latest) and Brandy's Talk About Us... and that big song by Twista, Slow Jamz. His work on the new Consequence (cousin of Q-Tip) LP is great. Who is this Kanye West everyone's going on about? An RnB producer? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice -- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last few albums maybe not. ;) Word is that he wanted to part ways with Trevor for this album but after a few attempts came back. I think the partnership is stale. Interesting to hear him with someone like Daniel Lanois or Kanye West... or Eno. yeah well that last album i didnt htink too highly of, the one before it i liked. i hear you on lanois or eno, not kanye though. that would be too trendy of a pick, seal is a little more timeless than that. not that theres anything wrong with kanye, i like his stuff just fine. if i was going to choose, id love to see what Flood could do with seal. that would be the hotness. tom andythepooh.com ## ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ## #
RE: (313) when I grow up....../ Ableton controllers
Nice find, I would suspect that the quality would be at least par to the evolution controls (which have cheapo feeling pots and dials) but functionally for live, these look like the ones to use (especially the banks of buttons for sample triggers). And for 150 euros! -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) when I grow up../ Ableton controllers How about these little babies? I stumbled on to them while looking for a controller for Traktor. Anyone have any info/feedback on them - they look pretty breakable! And the spacing seems to be a bit tight. Although... they are compact! http://www.faderfox.de/Faderfox-Homepage_english/faderfox-homepage_engli sh.html G -- website: www.gerald-matrix.com contributor - kick magazine (www.kickmagazine.ca) host of 'equinox radio' on l'electrique @ www.netmusique.com
RE: (313) Free Movement Gear
The last page states this: We have received your completed questionnaire. Thank you for taking the time to complete this survey conducted by Davidson-Peterson Associates on behalf of the Movement Festival and the Michigan Office of Tourism. -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Free Movement Gear I took the survey - the original link didn't work (it needed a .com after the digitalresearch part) - http://www.digitalresearch.com/movementmusic I am curious, who commissioned this survey? Was it Derrick company? The survey results could be very useful to build a case for keeping this thing alive. Hopefully the data collected will be used for purposes of good and not evil ;) Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that attended Movement, here's your chance to win free Movement shirts, CDs, etc. and help the festival and the birthplace of techno, Detroit. Fill out the survey and let Movement organizers know about your visit to tha big D! Help them organize a better festival for next year by telling them about you. Go to: www.digitalresearch/movementmusic
RE: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))
Yup. The cat rockin on the jupiter and SH101 :) -Original Message- From: Erin Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:06 PM To: Scotto Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P)) Scotto wrote: was mad mike in hiding? when i walked up tp the stage there was only three people, two who i reconized from sid when i have been shopping down there. a friend i was with said he did not see MM on stage (he knows him), i kept saying that the band was a front and MM was backstage playing everything. Nope, Mike was on stage!! playing keyboards as well. ~E
RE: (313) Detroit Record Shops
Actually, Roseville record time is closed due to flooding :( -Original Message- From: Scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Record Shops threads in hamtramck - josph campo and belmont both record times ferndale and roseville www.recordtime.com melodies and memories in eastpointe 586-776-2396 record collector in ferndale (across the road from record time) SID in detroit www.submerge.com (need to make an apointment) there is one in royal oak i forget its name, good for import kompakt style techno - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: (313) Detroit Record Shops Hello 313'rs I'm coming to the D next week and was wondering if any of you could be so kind as to suggest some essential record shops that me and my friends should visit whilst we're out there. Any info would be much appreciated (along with addresses if possible). Cheers, Chris.
RE: (313) Detroit Record Shops
Ya, ditto I heard the roof came down at Roseville store -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:33 PM To: House of Suki Cc: 'Scotto'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Record Shops oh man- i was working at the ferndale store right when it opened and we had some flooding issues. but bad enough to close the store? i hope himes is properly insured. it could be the best thing to happen if he gets paid ;) On Tue, 25 May 2004, House of Suki wrote: Actually, Roseville record time is closed due to flooding :( -Original Message- From: Scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Record Shops threads in hamtramck - josph campo and belmont both record times ferndale and roseville www.recordtime.com melodies and memories in eastpointe 586-776-2396 record collector in ferndale (across the road from record time) SID in detroit www.submerge.com (need to make an apointment) there is one in royal oak i forget its name, good for import kompakt style techno - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: (313) Detroit Record Shops Hello 313'rs I'm coming to the D next week and was wondering if any of you could be so kind as to suggest some essential record shops that me and my friends should visit whilst we're out there. Any info would be much appreciated (along with addresses if possible). Cheers, Chris.
RE: (313) Detroit Record Shops
Looks like sideshow bob, cant missum :P -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; House of Suki Cc: 'Scotto'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Record Shops there is a guy at melodies and memories named seth... you should talk to him if you go in there. I introduced myself as I used to see him at events all the time, and we got talking.. he seems to have some idea of whats going on, so could probably show you some not-so-well-known detroit gems. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: House of Suki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Scotto' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Record Shops oh man- i was working at the ferndale store right when it opened and we had some flooding issues. but bad enough to close the store? i hope himes is properly insured. it could be the best thing to happen if he gets paid ;) On Tue, 25 May 2004, House of Suki wrote: Actually, Roseville record time is closed due to flooding :( -Original Message- From: Scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 10:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Record Shops threads in hamtramck - josph campo and belmont both record times ferndale and roseville www.recordtime.com melodies and memories in eastpointe 586-776-2396 record collector in ferndale (across the road from record time) SID in detroit www.submerge.com (need to make an apointment) there is one in royal oak i forget its name, good for import kompakt style techno - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: (313) Detroit Record Shops Hello 313'rs I'm coming to the D next week and was wondering if any of you could be so kind as to suggest some essential record shops that me and my friends should visit whilst we're out there. Any info would be much appreciated (along with addresses if possible). Cheers, Chris.
RE: (313) Movement Fest Article...
Ok, so the permit has been issued. When is this press conference today? Anyone.Anyone? -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Movement Fest Article... check this out... http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move5_20040505.htm
RE: (313) Movement Fest Article...
Meant Tuesday. Drain bramage yo. -Original Message- From: matt kane's brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Movement Fest Article... At 03:30 PM 5/5/2004, House of Suki wrote: Ok, so the permit has been issued. When is this press conference today? Today? The only mention of a press conference says Tuesday, which probably means May 11. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) 909s
You will have a hard time sampling a single sample from an 808 or 909. the trick is to sample a pattern (just kicks or hat or whatever etc) so you get that slight drift -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 909s I´ve tried to fiddle about a bit with that human feel, but i found it utterly useless...Did I miss something?? The R8 is a nice machine, although it has heavy sync-problems and in case im getting too much gear and not enough techno everybody sing with me Rock...Rohooohooohooockrock to the beat techno karaoke The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Murat
Andre lives in LA now so I guess that's why there are dates out there. He played at twonz's birthday party a month or so ago (all ableton dj set no less) -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Murat Noticed that Murat's been playing a few gigs out on the west coast recently. Anybody know if he'll be playing in Detroit any time soon? It's been far too long since I've heard him spin. Or does anybody have some contact info for him? Cheers! G -- www.gerald-matrix.com
RE: (313) UR - Unexploitable. UR bags - Not Unbreakable.
Greg, I would try REI or some other outdoor outfitter. They usually have all sorts of different snaps and you should be able to find one that fits. Good luck Raph -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR - Unexploitable. UR bags - Not Unbreakable. OK - I know several of you out there have the same black UR record bag as I do. Over the last couple of years I've broken 3 out of the 4 prongs on the 2 latches that hold the bag closed when clicked into place - the last one broke off 2 weeks ago in Berlin, after I tried to open the bag after having been out in the cold all afternoon. *Snap!* So now I can't even close the bag all the way anymore ... g. Is there any way to replace these little black plastic latch buggers, short of getting a whole new bag? (Then again, those new Camo print bags look pretty good ... ) - Greg
(313) Tonight: Dec 12 2003 : DJ Sneak @ Carbon (in Hamtramck)
Friday, Dec 12 2003 Souldegamusic // Texture Presents: DJ Sneak Chuck Daniels Jason Hodges With Residents: Gabe Real Mike Rhythm 5$ at the door Carbon Lounge 21+ Hamtramck, MI __ Souldegamusic.com
RE: (313) classic detroit gear?
SCI pro one ala dan bell Fo' sho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:25 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) classic detroit gear? hello peeps I'd be interested in peoples suggestions of what they consider classic detroit gear? there's the obvious DX synths and Roland synths/Drum machines that spring to mind... any other ideas people?? just curious kev WILD LOOPS
(313) geat list subscribe address
What is subscribe addy for the gear list? I could not find it on hyperreal thnx _alt
RE: (313) - P909 on NewYears - That Friday Question
That is confirmed. It was new years 96 or 97. Line up (techno room) tim baker, DJ hell, p909 (live). There was also a house room that you got into from the front of the building on Jefferson and yes, p909 rocked it. -raph -Original Message- From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) - P909 on NewYears - That Friday Question Yeah...they played @ the warehouse...but the side room...not where all the booty parties are. I might even have the flyer somewhere...as a matter of fact, my friend has a copy of the set from that night (although on tape)...I've yet to convert it. If it WAS like 5 years back as I said, it would have been around 97 or so. Sorry you missed it! I was, for lack of a better word, dOpe!! House of Suki...can you confirm or clarify?...I know you keep all that info up there somewhere;) haha d$ -Original Message- From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:51 AM To: Darren Longton (Marketing); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) That Friday Question p-909s been broken up since 1997 or so. I dont remember then playing in detroit ever, and I sooo hope you're going because I just couldn't go on knowing I missed a PROTOTYPE 909 PA. damnit, just the thought of that makes me depressed :P -Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question CLASSIC. Anyone on the list there for their show in Detroit, New Years...$hit...like 5 years ago now!? Anyway, same deal...cheering when they dropped the bombs. -Original Message- From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:41 AM To: m a t t [d]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) That Friday Question I gotta break here and recommend something harsh as fuk prototype 909 - acid technology. if you cant convert them, make sure you scar them -Joe - Original Message - From: m a t t [d] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) That Friday Question LOL! That reminds me of one fundamental difference IMHO in the clubbing experience when you go clubbing to techno - the crowd. How many crowds do you hear cheering when the snares / hi hats / next mix comes in? :) I've only experienced that at techno nights. D+B nights have something similar with rewind requests etc but it feels much more genuine to me at a techno night... matt - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'm a t t [d]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question Yeah take 'em to see dave clarke mashing it up on the 1's and 2's crazystyle and everyones going bonkers - then ask the last time they saw that sh!t go down at the local trance-pants night :D
RE: (313) production and mastering
The protools that comes with the digi001 (not the free one) supports XP (and better yet, digi released WDM drivers so you can use any windows prog with the hardware) and PT 6 will also run on XP. I am not a big fan of protools since the midi support still seems a little awkward (compared to logic or cubase anyway) but I cannot really talk smack about their hardware which is the best by a long shot. However, I think in a couple years the idea of using protools as a Techno production platform will not even come into play since PCs are outpacing Macs both in price and performance and the improvements in affordable sound interfaces will soon make the $50k, $300/hour studio obsolete for dance music producers. Once Windows is taken out of the picture and companies get a little initiative (how about a custom Linux distro for Cubase ala final scratch?) we will see the true advent of the home studio. -raph -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:30 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) production and mastering spw wrote on Thu, 6 Feb 2003 about following: No offence, but it sounds like you have never used Pro Tools. There is the free version at digidesign's web site if you want to become more familiarized with the software. http://www.digidesign.com/ seems that it still is win98/me only on windows platform, and i'm sure pretty much nobody uses win98/me anymore. yes, i've tried it in win2k + xp, and it doesn't work. i don't actually need it for anything, but i would have wanted to try. sakke -- - * remixes out now * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID)
That would be Milwaukee st. off of Woodward (near Hastings). Jak is bak was in Jan 95 btw the night after DBX in Lansing (jak 3 got busted before it happened in Dec and this was the make up) raph (still kinda remembers) -Original Message- From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) Don't forget the JAK parties ...with a nice view of the Chrysler buildingwhat was the name of that place/location??? Not Hastings, but... -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) OK I have to ask, did anyone go to the series of three +8 parties before that: Hard, Harder and Hardest. (wasn't that at Roma Hall?) sorry... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:48 PM To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) Subject: Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) yeah it was the first time and yeah, we are all very old now ;) - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) Isn't the party Darren is referring to called Spastik? No - at that party he played live (for I think the first time?) as Plastikman. With the +8 Plastikdancers up on various boxes throughout, ha. That party must have been 110 degrees inside, a sweatbox coasted in dripping black plastic. peace Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) Mayday (or Labor Day)
here's the detnews article. http://www.detnews.com/2003/entertainment/0301/17/a01-62660.htm
RE: (313) Vestax PCV warning !!
Oh and heres the kicker: Replacment faders are ~$90.00 to replace. -Raph -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax PCV warning !! After the chats going on here recently - I was speaking to a good friend of mine who runs a sound/light installation firm in scotland...he was saying he's had loads of returns on the vestax PCV's : [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: had problems with the pcv mixers we lots of noise and leaking faders etc Marc says: yeah ?? thats [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I thought the pcvs would sort out the crappy xfader probs on the bottom end vestax stuff [EMAIL PROTECTED] says: The line faders and the pots even leak one guy brought it back and because he thought it was faulty there that bad! just thought I'd pass on the warning - as I say Ive not used one but thought you should know this seeing as lots of folk now considering them ! peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) mixer advice
I agree about the Vestex being a excellent quality mixer HOWEVER its more geared toward performance and is not that well suited for the home. For one thing, no booth or record outputs and no pre-mix feature either. If you can live without those, thts the way to go. Otherwise, Pioneer DJM-300,500,600 or the 9000 (the pimpest of the pimp IMHO). The new Rane (forget the model, the new blue one) looks tight and alot more DJ friendly. Rane has excellent quality and sound but some of their mixers are laid out in a not so conventional manner and not very DJ friendly (not to mention they are expensive). happy hunting. Raph -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; joe ruster; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mixer advice yep thats the vestax I used in Tresor and what a pleasure it was :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2002 22:40 To: joe ruster; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) mixer advice slightly more than the price range you gave, but imo the vestax pmc275 is by far the best mixer for the money out there - Original Message - From: joe ruster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: (313) mixer advice need mixer advice: two Numark's went sour...would like a Vestax (pmc). anyone have knowledge of Rane products? ...or, how about some general comments about the good the bad (possibly ugly, if you include Gemini)...price range around $300-350thanksj --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/02
(313) OT: Friday, Nov 29 ACID PIMP, TWONZ, REX --Resurgence--
November 29th, 2002 Detroit Electronic Funk Foundation Presents: RESURGANCE with DJs: TOM NEWMAN aka ACID PIMP (D Records) TWONZ aka ANTWON FAULKNER (Hijacked/Technificant Records) REX (D Records) 26620 Dequindre, Warren, MI East Side of Dequindre N of 696 Doors at 9 pm 21+: $10 before 10pm, $12 after Fully Licensed Legal Venue, $3 Well drinks all night Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Flyer: http://houseofsuki.com/deff/resurgence.htm A Rising again: Into Life, Activity, Prominence SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL DJ's!!!
RE: (313) venue: old motor building
I doubt its easy E (seeing that he is no longer on this earth) but there have been shows at this space regularly. I believe that Dan has been rent the space out to who ever wants it so I don't think there is a general place for all the upcoming events. -R -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) venue: old motor building what shows are scheduled here? I know of the one friday, then there is some rap show with eazy e or some shit, and then I thought there was at least one more show whats it? whats the deal with that space? -Joe jinjin_a_gogo: i dont speak your urban lingo, holmes
RE: (313) Random question about platter dots (was re: best decks)
There is a method of using the dots to match your 2 decks. Essentially, +/- whatever will match the same pitch adjustment of the other deck. -Original Message- From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Random question about platter dots (was re: best decks) Not to mention fixing 1200s which have been damaged when +16'd... Its just because the speed of the turntable varies slightly and so the dots are used to tell when it is going at exactly 33 1/3rm or 45rpm :-Original Message- :From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:10 PM :To: 'Michael Lees'; seth redmond :Cc: 313@hyperreal.org :Subject: RE: (313) Random question about platter dots (was re: best decks) : : : The only problem with touching the plate edge is the little dimples : :super tangential random question here - but the dots on technics are meant :to indictae what pitch things are going at by which row is stationary :(because of the strobe effect of the red light) ... has anyone actually :ever :used this functionality or is there any other useful purpose ? :would be handy to know as Ive thought they were a bit redundant (although :it :looks quite cool! ) : :peace, :Marc : :--- :--- :This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the :designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient :of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, :distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This :communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded :as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial :product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official :statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to :be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this :information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as :such. All information is subject to change without notice. : -- Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/ _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) technics (re: best decks)
Re: Modifying pitch sliders: The 1200 mk2 can be modified to remove the click AND defeat the quartz lock (which is a relative position on the potentiometer aka pitch slider) but soldering and taking the fader apart is required. I know very few ppl that actually use the lock (on either the mk2 or 3) and it also solves the problem of having 2 zeros. You can use the Mk3 faders on the mk2 and you will not have 0 button (faders are around $30 US). I have modded about a dozen technics TTs (lights, phat cables, reverse etc) and they all vary somewhat in how everything is put together (through hole connections on older tables, connectors on newer ones) so I recommend a service guide for anyone diving in. I have some reservations on the vestax TTs however since they seem to have a lot of snap in components (rca, tone arm, quick change fader etc) that require some physical connections. These connections will oxidize and degrade over time (if ever cleaned a TT that has been at a club for a while and you know what I am talking about)and replacing the connectors inside will definitely be expensive. Straight tone arms are harsh on your records also. I think it time for Panasonic to throw some money at they RD ppl and come up with a next generation turntable (mk3d came out like in 1984?). -Raph btw. If anyone would like to pick my brain about modding techs, feel free to email me. -Original Message- From: Robertson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:59 AM To: 'Langsman, Marc'; 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) technics (re: best decks) Oh yeah...It would be better if it was possible to get a replacement with the switch somewhere other than the middle of the slider. The 0 pitch lock gets worse with age and it feels like treacle to an otherwise perfect tool. I wouldn't wish to botch them like that. -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2002 14:47 To: 'Robertson, Steven'; 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) technics (re: best decks) you can def replace the whole pitch module - however Im not sure what would happen with the pitch lock because the mk3's have a button mounted on the deck instead of the clicky swtich at 0. I guess you might be able to just not hook up a pitch lock or botch your own ? -Original Message- From: Robertson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2002 14:37 To: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: (313) technics (re: best decks) Does anyone know if it's possible to replace the pitch slider on technics 1200s with the new ones, and if so, roughly how much would this cost? Just wondered... -Original Message- From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2002 14:24 To: seth redmond; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: best decks I have a pair of the older Vestax and I love them. I have no problem using Technics other than that annoying 0 pitch lock on the older models. My Vestax are not the ones with the +-50% but still the extra 2% on the slider helps a lot. I find the motor on the Vestax to be much stronger than on any Technics I've used and my only complaints are that the tone-arm seems to be lighter and not quite as stable and that when you hit stop it slows down instead of screeching to a halt like the Technics do. These problems may have been corrected on the newer Vestax. Eric At 10:31 AM 11/20/2002 +, seth redmond wrote: OK, this is a little off-topic but... I'm leaning toward the Vestax for the longer pitch control and higher torque, but I'm interested to know the list's opinion. Of the people who've used both, what do people prefer the Vestax PX2000 or Technics (probably 1200 Mk3 if I can find any)? ta -s _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) re: best decks
Actually, that doesnt increase the torque (which is a function of the motor), it increases your break. -Original Message- From: rh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks You can increase the torque on Techniques, thats what I have done. When I hit stop the platter actually goes in reverse for a while. All you have to do is open it up and turn a yellow plastic nut clockwise. rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Neil Wallace wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:49:55 - From: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Langsman, Marc' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'seth redmond' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks I got one pdx 2000 (as it was all I could afford at the time) and I really love it: -50% is actually really useful as use you can mix things at half tempo to do some weird x2s, having a reverse button is also very useful and yes they seem to have quite a lot more torque - which may not be a good thing if you play out a lot as after using vestax technics feel very light and you need to use a much gentler touch and yeah skipping is virtually non existent which I believe is due to the tonearm being designed to produce no lateral force perpendicular to the tonearm instead all the forces run parallel to the tonearm (or that's the theory anyway) Build quality wise I would say that echnics still have the edge insomuch as touching the deck with the needle on the record doesn't seem to make a noise thru the speakers whereas at high volumes if you tap the vestax you can hear the tapping. :-Original Message- :From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:41 AM :To: 'seth redmond'; 313@hyperreal.org :Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks : : :The one thing that always put me off the vestax was the fact that I didnt :want to become reliant on the features it has which arent available on :technics [ I find it bad enough playing out in places that dont have :hamster :switch on their mixer ]. Techn ics have always been built like a brick :sh!thouse and IMO vestax deck build quality has always been pretty shady - :but to their credit the new ones do actually feel damn solid and from what :Ive heard they do kick technics ass somewhat. From the brief experience Ive :had using them they seem to suffer way less with skipping/jumping than :technics which may be something to do with the crazy straight tonearm they :use. : :I think nowadays the price is fairly comparably between 12's and 2000's (I :think when the vestax first arrived they were like 500GBP a deck or :something daft). Many people argue that its best to have technics because :theyre the club standard but Im seeing the vestax popping up in more and :more clubs nowadays so I dont know if thats still valid. : :jus' my tuppence worth ! : :peace, :Marc : : -Original Message- : From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: 20 November 2002 10:32 : To: 313@hyperreal.org : Subject: (313) re: best decks : : : OK, this is a little off-topic but... : : I'm leaning toward the Vestax for the longer pitch control and higher : torque, but I'm interested to know the list's opinion. Of the : people who've : used both, what do people prefer the Vestax PX2000 or : Technics (probably : 1200 Mk3 if I can find any)? : : ta : : -s : : : _ : The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* : http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail : : : :--- :--- :This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the :designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient :of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, :distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This :communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded :as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial :product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official :statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to :be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this :information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as :such. All information is subject to change without notice. :
RE: (313) Final Scratch mac Q
True that. But FS runs on linux (not windows) -Original Message- From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:34 PM To: scotto; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q If you have Mac X, it has the ability to emulate windows. There is a decent chance that you could run final scratch through the emulation capabilities. - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch mac Q THAT SUX. I just bought a new mac laptop and I'm not getting a new windoze machine ever if I can help it. I seem to remember them saying somethng about this fall. unix and lynix are not that different from my understanding. one question, for the lynix geeks, could you load lynix on to the mac and run FS? scotto lansing, mi - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: RE: (313) Final Scratch From FinalScratch.com Q) Will there be a Macintosh version of FinalScratch? A) We are currently developing a MAC OS X verison of Final Scratch. There is no release date or crossgrade process available yet. -Original Message- From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch when the hell is the mac version coming out? scotto lansing, mi - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: (313) Final Scratch From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands Electronics... Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final Scratch units have arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to Authorised Stanton Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first shipment so if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get your hands on it, call your local Stanton stockist now.
[313] OT/House Yo Summa/ Cheap Drinks, Free House Music/Weds @ Carbon
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RE: [313] last day of pemf
Its guest list only. -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 3:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] last day of pemf whats the rsvp about here? can someone explain? -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Question: Final Scratch
My understanding of digital media formats vs. vinyl is that the digital version will always be superior in audio content fidelity since records cannot effectively duplicate all audio frequencies (especially stereo effects). Digital formats can duplicate frequencies beyond what we can hear and what can be reproduced with existing vinyl presses. This does not imply that digital formats sound better however and records do tend to have an analog warmth that digital formats can lack (which is a strong case for records). The obvious advantages are that there is a very low noise floor with digital formats and they don't degenerate over time. Now for WAV/AIFF vs. MP3 the main concern is the quality of the encoding. The WAV format (per Redbook spec) is considered perfect and is completely lossless. MP3 compression cuts the dynamic range at ~18-19 kHz per channel (at maximum quality settings) and with correct encoding software an MP3 can have the same perceptible quality as the original even though it will act as a low pass filter at 18 kHz(99% of the population cannot hear frequencies this high anyway). I have several good websites that do pretty extensive studies as to what is perfect MP3 compression and will be happy to provide those on request. Raph -Original Message- From: LR2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:27 AM To: 'Tom Robbins/Magic Feet'; '313 mailing list' Subject: [313] Question: Final Scratch After reading of Kevin Saunderson's conversion, it reminded me that I've had a question about this technology. I've always heard that one of the appeals of vinyl (for audiophiles in particular) is the frequency response range; especially in the low end. It's what purists have complained is missing in CDs for years. Does any one have a technical perspective on the audio quality of MP3 vs vinyl? I understand that MP3 is a compressed format and am curious if that compression would noticeably affect the sound, especially in a large club-like setting. For my needs, MP3 is fine as I listen to it on computer speakers, or rip it and listen to it in my car stereo...I'm not really concerned about superior audio quality in those settings as I don't have the greatest gear to reproduce it faithfully. But, in these mega-clubs and parties where the gear can be of the highest caliber, do you reckon 160 kbps (as Kevin mentioned) will cut it? I'm not trying to start a debate, I'm simply curious for input from those who might have a deeper understanding. Thanks! Leslie Rollins - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re:[313] Moody DJs - Dave Clarke
but what about someone like surgeon - when i saw him he djed with zero visual emotion That's because surgeon is in fact Mr.Spock in disguise. -Raph -Original Message- From: ataxia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re:[313] Moody DJs - Dave Clarke i must say i'm surprised to see this discussion as when DC played adelaide earlier this for our Big Day Out festival, he not only came back for an encore and danced around by himself behind the decks, he also jumped down and shook hands, signed autographs and chatted with people for a little while after his set... maybe he just likes the festival vibe... but what about someone like surgeon - when i saw him he djed with zero visual emotion, in fact i'd say barely acknowledged the tiny crowd, but was i complaining... i don't think so... [cw] _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re:[313] who are the good guys was Moody DJs - Dave Clarke/Surgeon
snipwho do people think are the good guys???snip Carl Cox and DJ Dan definatley top my charts as far as the nicest ppl ive met so far. -Original Message- From: ataxia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:28 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re:[313] who are the good guys was Moody DJs - Dave Clarke/Surgeon -- Original Message From: Mark S. Kr|x[EMAIL PROTECTED] gt;He might appear to be emotionless on the outside but say hey to him or ask gt;him a question and I'm sure you'll get a friendly response...something that gt;obviously can't be said of certain other jocks. i live in adelaide so i might get a chance in another year or two... the promoter lost out big last time... typical of my city... but enuff whinging... who do people think are the good guys??? I'd found the space dj'z ben sims to be pretty friendly... i generally find internationals disappear as soon as they finish playing, but these guys have hung about and chatted... thoughts??? [cw] _ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
Noticed something interesting about the DEMF www site. Click on PCM web link at the bottom and see where it takes you. me thinks the mole is active again. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
