Re: (313) underground/overground/wombling free
can I just say I disagree with censorship in any way or form? ok, thanks. ah . this must be why people give you liberal abuse on the list!
(313) Re: [idm] Analord MP3's
Scarcelight Recordings wrote: sounds like a revolutionary without a revolution. I impose an evolution of value ' The advent and onslaught of net-labels releasing music under creative commons, is a result of the control devices of copyright and record labels. I have no sympathy for the Artist in a commercial sense. We can not protect the value of music without re-establishing what this value is by destroying it. Several things are happening for me, while discovering net-labels, and creative commons. I am finding excellent music that makes me question the value of the music I pay for. In a dual process I am overwhelmed by content and desire a external filter that will condition my access to the music. . The consumer receives the value. The artist must create the value. The 'company' lose their dictation of value. . I do not suggest that this is an easy process, however it is necessary for progression. A strong symbol of this working is Vladislay Delay. On their website, they release some MP3 for free, they also promote material for sale, and they have provided a series of samples which they encourage you to steal! this is a bit of a fallacy. just because they would do it for free, it doesn't follow that they SHOULD do it for free. this is true regardless of the value of the product Artists must remain free to control their own output. We are involved in the action of globalization. We can acknowledge the process and define its path. This is the evolution of value' How is the artist not a martyr? .turnstyle reacting against the value given a product because the artist would like to make a living, assumes that there is an actual value in the product, otherwise why react to it ? (and if value is defined by the consumer, then it must have value to begin with in order for therre to be a denial of value) furthermore the cultural conditions of society (broadly speaking) have forced the perception that art is somehow cheapened when there is money involved, your stance seems to feed right into the established norm, but does it under the (no doubt well intentioned) idea of being a martyr for art, which is a total bullshit idea (although sometimes necessary step in evolution of authenticity) --- I'm not a dj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Dust wrote: The question is simple. I struggle with Technology ' help me. Put the crack pipe down I'm living on the edge ' so don't provoke me if your after sustenance . seek the truth . we are crossing a line that has no return the artist is the sacrifice for understanding .turnstyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com -- I believe Culture is the fabric of Identity Identity is the building blocks of Community www.obscure.co.nz // New Zealand Dance Music Culture www.psurkit.net // Listen to Speakeasy for the latest stuff
Re: (313) wizard mix 1990
anybody know of a freeware ogg to mp3 converter for 0sx? didn't find anything i liked on version tracker. hmm . I had a patch which i fixed into itunes over a two year ago. My itunes will now play ogg directly and then convert them as MP3. Its worked for so long, I have forgotten all about it not working. Try these http://www.illadvised.com/~jordy/ http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20021103065300430 .turnstyle
Re: (313) Live Techno ?
I vote for Fabrice Lig. That or on a slightly less techno front...Underworld. Yea ' very much up for Underworld. My brother used to be their Video Tech, so I've had an inside look at a lot of their production. Pretty cool show, and very much like their tunes. What does Fabrice Lig run I realize most people make excellent music, but the stage factor is rather important in this instance .. Someone who is prepared to bring some production elements ' Visual ' performance / presence What is the verdict on Ritchies Hawtin .. the reports from his Mutek show last year were a bit confused. I wasn't sure if people expected more ' or didn't realize what they got .. .turnstyle
Re: (313) Live Techno ?
diana potts wrote: Recloose. He lives in your neck of the woods. ta ' indeed . heck he's almost a local in fact I would expect that he will make it to the billing as per. We are looking really for some distinct internationals, the program is over 48 hours, so we are seeking to feature several headline performances. Artists like Recloose would certainly draw the stage, but I'm looking for the jaw dropper ' performance . Does it exist ?! The whole Festival is not Techno, so the Act can stand alone in its sonic capacity. However it would be nice to find an Act that can define the scale of the moment. We are trying to stay away from Dj performances ' and present stage performances. I realize Techno is not rock n roll .. However acts like Underworld, and the Chems were able to match their performance next to biggest bands in the world by using simple and effective video and lighting production. Further to this Rabbit in the Moon developed a '12 act full costume stage show that peels your cap of in the right mood. The concept of the Orb appearing live through ISDN is fairly cool ' as well. In this dimension you are starting to create a reality that extends conventional performance into another level of experience. / In NZ acts like Pitch Black are producing, fully sound vision integrated performances, that they present in small clubs. They can translate this to a large crowd and integrate midi triggering for lighting cues as well. This progression in production control is the level of act that we wish to present. Strip the production away, and we are looking for pure presence, the star quality of performance. Other NZ bands like Fat Freddy's Drop, Shapeshifter, Salmonella Dub are all producing a stage show that incorporates specific vision, lighting and sound concepts beyond standard rock n roll. While this may not be important to all artists it is an integral part of what we intend to present at the Festival. Where is the KLF when you need them? .turnstyle
Re: (313) Live Techno ?
KC Austin wrote: my vote goes to speedy j, decently big name to draw a crowd and a wicked live performance. he also does some experimental video integration, and is working on a crazy 5.1 surround project yea ' whammy now you are talking ' don't even start me on surround (yes) we have the ticket for speedy if he wants to ride! unlike conventions ' here in NZ we like to freak it out and we have no concerns about being really good at it. and 'speedy j just happens to be one of the festival organisers absolute baby favourites . from long times and good times . thanks .simon
Re: (313) Live Techno ?
KC Austin wrote: my vote goes to speedy j, decently big name to draw a crowd and a wicked live performance. he also does some experimental video integration, and is working on a crazy 5.1 surround project yea ' whammy now you are talking ' don't even start me on surround (yes) we have the ticket for speedy if he wants to ride! unlike conventions ' here in NZ we like to freak it out and we have no concerns about being really good at it. and 'speedy j just happens to be one of the festival organisers absolute baby favourites . from long times and good times . thanks .turnstyle
Re: (313) Live Techno ?
I love Ritchie . despite my bad naming .. his music . his intention is so bold and clear ' what you say about SONAR is the most exciting news I have heard to date. / here in NZ . we have danced to the sound of a plastic fusion, on mud ankle deep . the sound set seeping across the reality of unique \ We are trying too dig deep. To uncover and reveal the potential of the human form. Technology is absolute ' when you realize that your imagination is the limitation of possibility .. Last time Ritchie played in NZ, we did the sound system and my boss who owned the equipment brought his hairdresser, because he knew this was the most dynamic experience that he could ever expose her too. . Don't underestimate the understanding we have, hungry and young we are demanding for in our acceptance. Confused? Stand closer to the wind and listen to your heart. .turnstyle Tosh Cooey wrote: What is the verdict on Ritchies Hawtin .. the reports from his Mutek show last year were a bit confused. I wasn't sure if people expected more ' or didn't realize what they got .. Mutek was a HUGE undertaking which may have gotten a little beyond the capabilities of technology at the time. I know that the show has been restructured to be more technologically adaptable. Rich will be opening the SONAR festival in a couple months playing live with the Barcelona Symphony Orchestra, if you have time before you have to make your decision then maybe wait to hear about that? Otherwise you could just contact him and see where his head is at about it all. Tosh -- I believe Culture is the fabric of Identity Identity is the building blocks of Community www.obscure.co.nz // New Zealand Dance Music Culture www.psurkit.co.nz // Listen to Speakeasy for the latest stuff
Re: (313) Isolee Question
however, the thing blew up the dancefloor when i played it once just to get my money's worth out of it. do you talk to your records as well ' go on ' i'll bet you line them all up before a gig and tell them that they better perform, or you will turn them in to ashtrays! .turnstyle
Re: (313) one, two, one, two
test . test .. is this on ? there was a question .. https://www.obscure.co.nz/profiles/turnstyle
(313) Live Techno ?
Hey all ' I am part of a development team for a Festival in New Zealand, Easter, 2006 I have been asked to find a live Techno performance, for the Festival. . I have been racking my brain as to who is actually doing an interesting Live stage performance ' Also someone was talking about the Orb or FSOL . who will do a performance over ISDN? Any suggestions, would be appreciated. Mail me off list ' Alternatively it would be great to hear of peoples favourite / least favourite live act. .. I was recently reminded of when the Advent played in NZ live. We did the sound for them in this large warehouse in Wellington. As the PA company we thought they were terrible because the overdrove every channel to the max. So it was all distorted mash. The people loved it though . and it really was the last great Live Techno performance in NZ really. (1998) That was a great year, cause Der Dritte Raum played Live as well. They were stunning, but the PA for them was really bad, alot of their work was lost to bad acoustics. Oh' and I saw Rabbit in the Moon !! a touch more trance, but it was in a Forest with 160k of unreal sound for a crowd of about 1000 peeps. No one will believe me if I told you the truth about that party, but the Rabbit was cool ' .turnstyle
(313) one, two, one, two
test . test .. is this on ? (sorry david ' wrong channel!)
