RE: [313] is it house or is it techno?
BPM = not a good measurement for saying something is Techno. Or else what to do with Trance, gabber etc. But especially with the sound you're describing it is difficult. And even house DJ's like BodySouls Joe Claussel play Deepchord Maurizio releases. But then I never talk about it in that way. Good music is good music what ever you call it. NO? JayCee (whoboldlystatesthathouseisn'tadirtyword) -Original Message- From: beautiful individual [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] is it house or is it techno? sorry to bring this up again (have not been near a computer for days so thread still fresh for me), but what's the difference between minimal techno and minimal house? for me, the daniel bell cd is house music, why? because of its tempo. it's not fast enough to be techno. then again i might be the only one who defines the two by bpms. so bloody confusing, early phuture stuff in local stores is now placed in the techno section as younger heads perceive it as techno. From: ed thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] micro house Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:11:41 -0700 both down the mind and herberts mistakes mix cd's are high on my listening list. Both ooze minimal techno funk. Micro house(???) never entered my mind. - Original Message - From: beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [313] micro house micro house: minimal house (usually german) by the likes of daniel bell, herbert, losoul, farben, isolee, etc. labels: playhouse, klang ... good example (in my opinion, but could be wrong): the button-down mind of daniel bell mix cd on tresor From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] micro house Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:25:40 +0100 ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list but not worked out what it means. ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to explain this genre with example of artists. thanks. rav. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it house or is it techno?
BPM = not a good measurement for saying something is Techno. Or else what to do with Trance, gabber etc. But especially with the sound you're describing it is difficult. And even house DJ's like BodySouls Joe Claussel play Deepchord Maurizio releases. But then I never talk about it in that way. Good music is good music what ever you call it. NO? JayCee (whoboldlystatesthathouseisn'tadirtyword) -Original Message- From: beautiful individual [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] is it house or is it techno? sorry to bring this up again (have not been near a computer for days so thread still fresh for me), but what's the difference between minimal techno and minimal house? for me, the daniel bell cd is house music, why? because of its tempo. it's not fast enough to be techno. then again i might be the only one who defines the two by bpms. so bloody confusing, early phuture stuff in local stores is now placed in the techno section as younger heads perceive it as techno. From: ed thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] micro house Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:11:41 -0700 both down the mind and herberts mistakes mix cd's are high on my listening list. Both ooze minimal techno funk. Micro house(???) never entered my mind. - Original Message - From: beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [313] micro house micro house: minimal house (usually german) by the likes of daniel bell, herbert, losoul, farben, isolee, etc. labels: playhouse, klang ... good example (in my opinion, but could be wrong): the button-down mind of daniel bell mix cd on tresor From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] micro house Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:25:40 +0100 ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list but not worked out what it means. ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to explain this genre with example of artists. thanks. rav. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] radio
www.paxahau.com http://www.paxahau.com http://www.flatplastic.com/index.html http://www.flatplastic.com/index.html http://deephousepage.com/ http://deephousepage.com/ http://www.undergroundcommittee.com/ http://www.undergroundcommittee.com/ www.groovetech.com http://www.groovetech.com http://www.betalounge.com/ http://www.betalounge.com/ hope this helps a bit JayCee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] radio Hello, Anyone know of any radio programs focusing on Detroit music and / or good house techno that I can tune into via real audio?? Any help is greatly appreciated... Thank you! Derek - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] new album by Marc Moulin (TELEX)
Don't know why nobody mentioned it yet but Marc Moulin, one of the driving forces behind Telex has made a new album. A sort of return to his roots. He played in diverse Jazz-ensembles before. So know he has an album out on Blue Note. In a St-Germain vain, but also very good. Top secret is the name. JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] radio
www.paxahau.com http://www.paxahau.com http://www.flatplastic.com/index.html http://www.flatplastic.com/index.html http://deephousepage.com/ http://deephousepage.com/ http://www.undergroundcommittee.com/ http://www.undergroundcommittee.com/ www.groovetech.com http://www.groovetech.com http://www.betalounge.com/ http://www.betalounge.com/ hope this helps a bit JayCee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] radio Hello, Anyone know of any radio programs focusing on Detroit music and / or good house techno that I can tune into via real audio?? Any help is greatly appreciated... Thank you! Derek - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] new album by Marc Moulin (TELEX)
Don't know why nobody mentioned it yet but Marc Moulin, one of the driving forces behind Telex has made a new album. A sort of return to his roots. He played in diverse Jazz-ensembles before. So know he has an album out on Blue Note. In a St-Germain vain, but also very good. Top secret is the name. JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Herbie Hancock Carl Craig article
OK first thing's first : You better not get into an Ibizan Jail, the ingenious ways of torture they use are of a psychological nature but still : Nina Hagen again surprised her public by putting on a free performance for the inmates at Ibiza's jail. The singer declared that music is a symbol of peace and union. September 30, 2001 Article in the NY-Times : Techno Dances With Jazz By MIKE RUBIN Arts Leisure (Sept. 30, 2001) YIELDING samplers and laptops instead of saxophones and pianos, electronic musicians are increasingly borrowing from - and aspiring to make - jazz, and now they have a new ally in the pianist Herbie Hancock. While Mr. Hancock's electronic forays into the outer reaches of jazz, as well as his experiments with pop, funk and disco, have mostly been scorned in the jazz world, they've won him a following among techno producers. Mr. Hancock is revered in electronic circles less for his 1960's acoustic piano work - both on his own albums and those of Miles Davis - than for his prescient early 70's records like Head Hunters and Sextant, which helped introduce synthesizers to jazz, and his 1983 hit single, Rockit, which featured percussive turntable scratching and was an MTV staple when many current electronic musicians and D.J.'s were children. Mr. Hancock remains an icon. Drum-and-bass artists have prolifically sampled his work, while the British techno producer Kirk Degiorgio released a record called The Message in Herbie's Shirts, which suggested that the clothes Mr. Hancock wore in the cover photos of his 70's albums offered clues about the merits of the music inside. In the case of Mr. Hancock's new album, Future 2 Future (Transparent Music 500112), Mr. Degiorgio's hypothesis proves accurate: the cover shows Mr. Hancock wearing a clear plastic windbreaker like those that are popular in the techno subculture. The transparency hints at some of the insubstantial music contained therein. The album's flaws are readily apparent, especially compared with recent releases by others that have striven to create a techno-jazz hybrid. Future 2 Future is notable for bringing together a jazz musician of Mr. Hancock's stature with contemporary electronic artists (though they make only token appearances on the album). They include the British acid house and drum-and-bass innovator A Guy Called Gerald (Gerald Simpson), the New York turntablist DJ Rob Swift, and the Detroit techno standout Carl Craig, one of the black musicians who developed this soulful, heavily percussive electronic dance music more than a decade ago. Kebero, the collaboration with Mr. Craig, is inexplicably broken into two segments on the album; female vocals float ethereally amid his loops of African percussion, over which Mr. Hancock layers keyboard textures. But just as the song seems as if it might swirl into something interesting, it's over, segueing into an inconsequential spoken-word track. Mr. Swift and Mr. Simpson's contributions don't fare much better. Mr. Swift displays more dynamic scratching work in his current Gap commercial, and while Mr. Simpson's hyperkinetic drum-and-bass beats strive to stake out a groove, Mr. Hancock's keyboards are too soggy and saccharine to enhance it. The rhythmic clatter of drum-and-bass pervades the record. The Essence sounds like an outtake from Roni Size's 1997 album, New Forms, right down to the rapid-fire beats, acoustic bass lines and diva vocals (in this case from Chaka Khan). But 1997 hardly qualifies as the future anymore. The album's most successful track, Alphabeta, is built around sturdy drumming from Jack DeJohnette, with the refrain provided by a muffled sample from Derrick May's landmark 1988 Detroit techno single Strings of Life. A gently funky collage of acoustic and electronic elements, the track heralds the possibility of a true techno-jazz fusion that the rest of the album fails to deliver. But even as Future 2 Future disappoints, Mr. Hancock is, as usual, onto something that other artists have been more adept at attaining. While jazz and popular dance music have intersected since the days of disco, dance music has usually been drawn more to the sweet, uptempo soul grooves of Roy Ayers than to the spikier electronics of Mr. Hancock's Sextant. But as dance music itself has become more electronic, its creators' interests have expanded. Electronic producers of all stripes are now inspired by a broader jazz palette, whether as fodder for samples, as part of the search for rhythmic diversity, or as a reference point for their own artistic aspirations toward a cerebral sophistication removed from the sweat of the dance floor. Among techno-jazz fusion endeavors, Mr. Craig's Innerzone Orchestra project is noteworthy for having taken its cue from the more abrasive sounds of records like Sextant rather than from the treacly tones favored by the acid jazz movement (a glossy mixture of 70's jazz, soul and funk) and drum-and-bass artists like Goldie and LTJ Bukem.
RE: [313] Herbie Hancock Carl Craig article
OK first thing's first : You better not get into an Ibizan Jail, the ingenious ways of torture they use are of a psychological nature but still : Nina Hagen again surprised her public by putting on a free performance for the inmates at Ibiza's jail. The singer declared that music is a symbol of peace and union. September 30, 2001 Article in the NY-Times : Techno Dances With Jazz By MIKE RUBIN Arts Leisure (Sept. 30, 2001) YIELDING samplers and laptops instead of saxophones and pianos, electronic musicians are increasingly borrowing from - and aspiring to make - jazz, and now they have a new ally in the pianist Herbie Hancock. While Mr. Hancock's electronic forays into the outer reaches of jazz, as well as his experiments with pop, funk and disco, have mostly been scorned in the jazz world, they've won him a following among techno producers. Mr. Hancock is revered in electronic circles less for his 1960's acoustic piano work - both on his own albums and those of Miles Davis - than for his prescient early 70's records like Head Hunters and Sextant, which helped introduce synthesizers to jazz, and his 1983 hit single, Rockit, which featured percussive turntable scratching and was an MTV staple when many current electronic musicians and D.J.'s were children. Mr. Hancock remains an icon. Drum-and-bass artists have prolifically sampled his work, while the British techno producer Kirk Degiorgio released a record called The Message in Herbie's Shirts, which suggested that the clothes Mr. Hancock wore in the cover photos of his 70's albums offered clues about the merits of the music inside. In the case of Mr. Hancock's new album, Future 2 Future (Transparent Music 500112), Mr. Degiorgio's hypothesis proves accurate: the cover shows Mr. Hancock wearing a clear plastic windbreaker like those that are popular in the techno subculture. The transparency hints at some of the insubstantial music contained therein. The album's flaws are readily apparent, especially compared with recent releases by others that have striven to create a techno-jazz hybrid. Future 2 Future is notable for bringing together a jazz musician of Mr. Hancock's stature with contemporary electronic artists (though they make only token appearances on the album). They include the British acid house and drum-and-bass innovator A Guy Called Gerald (Gerald Simpson), the New York turntablist DJ Rob Swift, and the Detroit techno standout Carl Craig, one of the black musicians who developed this soulful, heavily percussive electronic dance music more than a decade ago. Kebero, the collaboration with Mr. Craig, is inexplicably broken into two segments on the album; female vocals float ethereally amid his loops of African percussion, over which Mr. Hancock layers keyboard textures. But just as the song seems as if it might swirl into something interesting, it's over, segueing into an inconsequential spoken-word track. Mr. Swift and Mr. Simpson's contributions don't fare much better. Mr. Swift displays more dynamic scratching work in his current Gap commercial, and while Mr. Simpson's hyperkinetic drum-and-bass beats strive to stake out a groove, Mr. Hancock's keyboards are too soggy and saccharine to enhance it. The rhythmic clatter of drum-and-bass pervades the record. The Essence sounds like an outtake from Roni Size's 1997 album, New Forms, right down to the rapid-fire beats, acoustic bass lines and diva vocals (in this case from Chaka Khan). But 1997 hardly qualifies as the future anymore. The album's most successful track, Alphabeta, is built around sturdy drumming from Jack DeJohnette, with the refrain provided by a muffled sample from Derrick May's landmark 1988 Detroit techno single Strings of Life. A gently funky collage of acoustic and electronic elements, the track heralds the possibility of a true techno-jazz fusion that the rest of the album fails to deliver. But even as Future 2 Future disappoints, Mr. Hancock is, as usual, onto something that other artists have been more adept at attaining. While jazz and popular dance music have intersected since the days of disco, dance music has usually been drawn more to the sweet, uptempo soul grooves of Roy Ayers than to the spikier electronics of Mr. Hancock's Sextant. But as dance music itself has become more electronic, its creators' interests have expanded. Electronic producers of all stripes are now inspired by a broader jazz palette, whether as fodder for samples, as part of the search for rhythmic diversity, or as a reference point for their own artistic aspirations toward a cerebral sophistication removed from the sweat of the dance floor. Among techno-jazz fusion endeavors, Mr. Craig's Innerzone Orchestra project is noteworthy for having taken its cue from the more abrasive sounds of records like Sextant rather than from the treacly tones favored by the acid jazz movement (a glossy mixture of 70's jazz, soul and funk) and drum-and-bass artists like Goldie and LTJ Bukem.
[313] ILOVETECHNO2001 confirmation for most artists
I think some of you on this list may find this interesting information. Yeah You!!! I think that this year I'll put my personal feelings aside and go (to witness the amazing TT-Tribe). line-up? And the nominees are.. Christian Varela (live), Carl Cox, Rush, Marco Bailey, Ricardo Villalobos, Frank Lorber, Sven Väth, Chris Liebing, Anthony Rother (live), John Thomas, Mistress Barbara, Dave Clarke, Push (live), Mr. Sam, Umek, Bandulu (live), Christian Smith, Michel De Hey, Slam (live), G-Force, Psychogene, Vladimir Trapeznikov, Alison Marks, Danny Howells, Lucien Foort, Jack De Marseille, T-Quest, Green Velvet (live) and last but not least Richie Hawtin ! cocoon? Just as last year there will be 5 different rooms.. but one of these rooms will be called the Cocoon Room. Why? Not only Sven Väth will play there, he will be surrounded with artists like Anthony Rother, Frank Lorber, Ricardo Villalobos, Chris Liebing and Richie Hawtin. Sounds very great ! presale? Presale will start at 26.09.2001 and will cost 1250 BEF (oops this hurts ! ) or 30.99 EUR. You can find your ticket at all usual outlets in Belgium and The Netherlands. At the door you'll pay 1500 BEF or 32.23 EUR. more info? If you want more info concerning this event you can go to the ILT Homepage http://www.ilovetechno.be . JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Theo Parrish - When the Morning Comes
I have it released on a 4 track on a French Label. I think Riviera. But I'll have to look it up. JayCee -Original Message- From: juliette morgan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] Theo Parrish - When the Morning Comes Originally on 3 Chairs #1 (double pack,US), in 1996; followed by a UK 3-track 12 on Filth. .jm. What label was this released on? Respect JasonB _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] http://www.viewlexx.com
At 43.00 it's Annie's Song : greatest hits (but it is difficult to listen to it at work, colleagues ask me what weird eiry stuff are you listening to) JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] regarding squarepusher and plaid at st. andrews
Who ever believes that the squarepusher man is coming out on a tour can just as easily believe in goblins dwarfs I have never seen him, but already bought like 3 tickets to an event where he would beThis year he canceled Sonar Ten Days Off...(amongst others) JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Save the vinyl info
Well it's cool and all that but just take a peak at the recent Pioneer CDJ-1000 and I guess that then we can start SAVE THE VINYL all over again. I had a chance of fiddling around with it (at 10 Days Off in Ghent). And I'm promised another chance at a party sometime soon, and it comes very close to Technics in the feel (and no I'm not working for Pioneer) + it has other options like Master Tempo etc...even the scratching you do with it sounds cool. Only problem is the the price (about 1500$?), which is way too much. It was developed by Pioneer, with the aid of some Belgian dj's producers. http://www.pioneerprodj.com/products/cdj1000/cdj1000-intro.htm JayCee BTW : please no CD Vs. Vinyl discussion or one about the advantages of Analog Vs. Digital. Information purposes only ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul?
Try this website, it's from one of my friends how makes among others new school breaks. There are always good mixes available at this space. http://www.submedia.com/vanno/ http://www.submedia.com/vanno/ JayCee -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul? Speaking of Nu-Jazz/Broken Beat/West London House/whatever... I just got the Nubian Mindz's New World Chaos and must say that it is some of the funkiest sh+t I've heard in quite a while. A bit of rumbling drum bass, new school breaks, Detroit techno/electro ala Underground Resistance, deep jazzy house. Always keeps me on my toes and at the edge of my seat. Nubian Mindz seem to be on the darker more techno edge of this movement. Now my question: is anyone else making this edgier broken beat stuff without going straight into the drum bass? Thanks MEK From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul? Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:05:59 -0400 - Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul? This stuff segues from there into what I can only describe as slow electronic soul. It has sort of a heavilly electronic hip-hop flavor with beautiful vocals. All of this stuff interests me a lot and I have no idea where it comes from or what to call it. It's distinct from what I'm hearing out of the West London New School sound, although both evoke the same return to an older variety of soul or funk for me. More of a direct link up with that sound than what we'd normally think of from techno, but very techno in spirit. Sorry for being so vague and non-descript. These are the best words I can come up with to describe these sounds. Is the West London sound what I was referring to above? Garage and the West London New School Breaks sound as it's being referred to here are pretty different. 2-step is essentially garage with a breakbeat. The new school breaks are more funk oriented from what I can decipher as a listener who hasn't bought anything but the 2000 Black comp. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Darren Price?
He's now officially the replacement for Darren Emmerson in Underworld. He used to be their warm-up jock for quite some time to. I'll be able to check him out the 18th on a festival here in Belgium. So I guess he's working on the new Underworld album. JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] more jaguar?
AHA, On the jaguar tip, the derrick May Mix got an Official release on vinyl on 430 west (UK?) together with the Mills Version. (Bought it Yesterday) JayCee -Original Message- From: Conway, Simon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 5:40 AM To: '313@HYPERREAL.ORG' Subject:[313] more jaguar? is the carl craig remix going to get an official release ? ** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] tuxedomoon
It is one of my favourite Tuxedomoon Tracks. So I'll check it out anyway. JayCee -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:53 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject:Re: [313] tuxedomoon It's a track called 'No Tears' and remixes are by Hanz Platzgumer and Continuous Mode = 3 track EP. I didn't like it. Too noisy shouty. int. deejay gigolo's have a remix 12 lined up on tuxedomoon - anyone know what tracks they remix or who does the remixing ? cheers simon ** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Jaguar Video
When something can become a hit by accident and not because off a smart mediaplan, why not? Underground does not mean it's forbidden to sell records. Be honest you aim to reach a lot of people, otherwise you have to make music at home and let only your friends listen to it. Or distribute your song trough internet channels only. JayCee. E.G. : Sonic Youth, alltough they're underground and don't make compromises they still sell sometimes 500.000 copies worldwide. -Original Message- From: Michael Kim [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] Jaguar Video and that's a problem why? i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the mainstream channels... any kind of music that blows up generally loses its quality. putting on flameproof suit now... case in point, rap. i used to love a lot of the rap that came out (Wu Tang, Outkast, Death Row, etc.). rap started blowing up REAL good with No Limit Records, the ultimate in selling out what rap is all about. think about it. saturation of public channels makes people sick of the music. media glamor attracts untalented artists who make crappy, uninspired, sampled, and/or bland music. trance is a very accessible type of music. i myself started listening to trance, until i started searching for something better. someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search for underground music. and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground sound. most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or later... keeps the quality high, and the fans true. okay, flame away now. 8o) just my $0.01 (does it deserve $0.02?) Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:44 EDT In a message dated 10/16/00 12:25:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the risk of going out on a limb, I hope they don't show it on tv: it's too good to be caged in with all the usual crap. Wes I beg to differ. If the opportunity is there to present it to tv, I'd say go for it. If the video is good, then it should stand out from all the other crap. See this is the problem with techno, no one is willing to push(promote) it like they do trance. Disenchanted, G l y p h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] metropolis
Maybe he wants to use the coloured version? JayCee. -Original Message- From: John Shipman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 3:56 PM To: 'Tom Robbins'; 313 mailing list Subject:RE: [313] metropolis mmm, didn't someone here say the the film was public domain? -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:01 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] metropolis Matt Holland wrote: Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut version of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been screened once? The new issue of iDJ out now includes an interview with Jeff Mills by Nick Doherty from which the following quote is lifted: Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack? If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave us permission to edit the film for use in a one-off presentation. Tom MF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] i love techno
This is the official web-site, it's embedded in a dutch techno magazine but there you can even order tickets. http://www.i-love-techno.org/ http://www.i-love-techno.org/ JayCee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] i love techno hey i deleted this post but if someone could give me the info on this party i would appreciate it zues - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ben Sims
THAT'S why both are in my TOP 5. JayCee. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:29 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject:Re: [313] Ben Sims He came as a highly recommended and relatively unknown artist and left with a reputation as one of the greatest DJs on the planet. Not since Luke Slater's first visit as an artist has an artist left such an impression on Australia. Not sure about that - but this is a press release-speak, right? And it's by a Brit, too? :) He made a great impression in Melbourne but, alas, no one knows who Ben Sims is in Sydney - except for the DJs! The Sydney scene as a whole just doesn't embrace that music at all. Melbourne, Adelaide and you could add to that Perth are the techno cities here - according to the industry consensus. I think Stacey Pullen left by far the greater impression in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago among a wider demographic!! He played for six hours in Melbourne at the Innovator party along with Derrick Carter - and he played 'til he was so tired he was kneeling at the decks, and it was sensational. It was an appreciative, sophisticated crowd and the night had a great vibe. People are still talking about it! I think it was an inspiration to pair up these two DJs as they have a great rapport and inspired each other and both attracted slightly different crowds who ended up experiencing the other DJ for the first time and were converted. It was a good contrast of personalities, too - Derrick's droll humour to Stacey's joyful whimsicality. Derrick played deep and slipped in a few quirky RB type records - like Mary Mary's Shackles (Praise You), which is a uptempo gospel/RB track and a top 2 hit here, and The Artful Dodger feat Craig David. I believe he played the Mayday mix of Jaguar, too. Then Stacey played tech-house through to house and finished with a drum 'n' bass track by Goldie (we think) and Stevie Wonder during his encores. I am not sure if it's common practice elsewhere for DJs to do encores but in the clubs they often do them here due to crowd reception. Stacey received an ovation here - it was the bomb. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] i love techno
Well the party is in Ghent (about 40Km from brussels) and I'll give you the official URL : http://www.i-love-techno.org/ http://www.i-love-techno.org/ It is imbedded in a dutch magazine but if you click on the I love Techno Thingie you can even choose you're language and order tickets (Touch the colour bands). BTW : I can even search for rooms and stuff ( I know a guy who has a Youth hostel). Jan Claeyssens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:09 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] i love techno I take it the party is in brussels, becuse the site only says belgium. Not much other info on the party. If anyone is interested i found cheap r/t airfare for $300. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] I love techno
Well since I live in a belgium there's a big chance. JayCee -Original Message- From: Henry Chow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:48 AM To: 313 Cc: G-Tech Subject:[313] I love techno http://www.techno.de/party/presents/i_love_techno/ anybody going? = *-'|[ s t e a l t h ]|'-* * t e k | x u p p o r t * http://www.713tekno.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
Yes, so it is a world wide problem with mostly man visiting techno parties. I wonder why? ;-) But even in Italy who would have tought. And then you go and visit house parties and the place is filled with woman. Wondering why? Jan Claeyssens -Original Message- From: fab137 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:25 PM To: Kent williams; 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] R: [313] women and electronic music As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor everywhere One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just the appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men than women. So considering that female djs are already scarce, couple that with the macho appeal of technothere you have it! No women djs! bye fab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
Here in Belgium 2 of my friends are quite succesfull woman dj's (Dj stephanie and Trish) and one of them is even the resident DJ in FUSE in Brussels. If you want to I can ask them to contact you. Just let me know. JayCee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:51 PM To: fab137 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music i was very intimated during the very few times i've djed in public, and i'm still intimated when i have to prove to other djs, usually males, that i know what i'm doing. at times, i feel as if i can be nothing more that the dj whore trailing all the djs. i get really self-conscious when i'm the only female trainspotting, even though i know i only go to clubs to see djs, to watch their techniques, and to hear records i might want to buy. i also, i spin primarily techno in the realm of mills, beyer, surgeon, etc., and it's hard enough finding female techno role models who spin this type of techno. i haven't even found an african american female role model ever. it seems that a lot of female spin house or more housy techno, so i'm also happy to find female djs spinning more harder or weirder stuff. currently i'm not djing anymore for reasons beyond my control. maia --On Thu, Oct 5, 2000 4:25 PM +0200 fab137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor everywhere One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just the appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men than women. So considering that female djs are already scarce, couple that with the macho appeal of technothere you have it! No women djs! bye fab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] hard house?
That's what happened to me, when I picked up a Hard-House Tape in the UK expecting to find dark sinister house bordering on Techno and ending up with a tape mixed by Tony De Vit (RIP). Totally disgusted. JayCee -Original Message- From: Lawton David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:49 PM To: 'FC3 Richards'; 'Kyle J Dupuy' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject:RE: [313] hard house? So If an American asks me if I like Hard House, instead of looking at him in disgust (whick is what I would normally do being from uk and knowing only UK hard house), I will simply say I have never heard it. -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2000 15:41 To: 'Kyle J Dupuy' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] hard house? it depends on what country you are in...perfect example of hard house in the US is Bad Boy Bill...progressive and trance would be UK hard House...just to make it easy jeff -Original Message- From:Kyle J Dupuy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hard house? since it has been brought up lately. . is there a general consensus on what hard house consists of? i've heard it used to describe a traditionally 'housey' type sound, but more dark or sinister, something along the lines of what magda and derek plaslaiko spin, and what frankie bones seems to be spinning lately. then i've also heard the term applied to a completely different kind of sound, namely that uk, high nrg, trancey type sound. can someone help me with my genres please. . . piece. kyle - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: 313 names for pets.
Well I've named my Cat Axis. Well to be honest my wife called her that without knowing that that was a D-Techno Label. But hey I didn't object. JayCee -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 4:46 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] Re: 313 names for pets. around the kitchen (upstairs); note to those snickering: I wanted to call the dog Kano (well, actually, wanted to call it Mantronik, but a dog should have a two-syllable name; Parrish (after Man) was misinterpreted by friends as Perish (and thus gory), Cybotron, Kraftwerk, and Atkins didn't work, Saunderson had too many syllables, etc, so it's now Karma (good Karma, bad We had this dilemma with our kitten. Would it be Miles (too moody), Coltrane (too, um, damn good), Herbie (suggests ginger to me for some reason)? We decided on Fela, only to find out he was a she...we ended up with Minnie (after Minnie Riperton - we were listening to a lot of Charles Stepney). A friend called her pair of kittens Mills (moody and shy) and Sneak (ginger and FAT)! That's pretty good, I reckon. Jonny. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tHE WORLD IS RUNNING DOWN TRACK id
It was a bootleg that originaly came out around the Mimami Winter Conference. Now it has been released officially on Pagan. It is Different Gear Vs. The Police : When The World Is Running Down. JayCee
RE: 313 Digest 2 Oct 2000 03:49:56 -0000 Issue 246
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 2 oktober 2000 5:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: 313 Digest 2 Oct 2000 03:49:56 - Issue 246 -- Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:18:19 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yet another Track ID Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike -- [Jan Claeyssens] I I think the track you're referring to is actually from Cevin Fisher under his Submission Monikker. Submission : women beat their Men. JayCee
RE: [313] Let's Talk Techno
Well I have to admit that I think Meat Beat Manifesto : Storm The Studio should be on the list. Or the CD compilation of 69 on RS. But I have to admit that I agree with what somebody stated earlier in electronic music the 12 are also very important. JayCee -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 18 september 2000 13:56 To: Detroit Subject:Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno hi, I would like to add Frontline Assembly's 'Tactical Neural Implant' - yeah, i know, it's not detroit, but it is electronic music, and very excellent cd. there's tons of sound layers mixed beautifully together.. and you should really listen to it on dolby surround system since it was mixed for such use. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to add amorphous androgenous to this list. Here's something to spark some much needed critical analysis on this list: if you had to name the fifty best AND most important electronic CD's of the past 25-odd years, what would they be? Here are my picks. I've been working on this for a while; believe me, I have considered most albums people are going to point out are absent. However, I'd love to discuss why you think that record is important. And yes, I do know Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, Black Dog, and some others are not on here, and I think I can defend my decisions. clip /sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Napster question
The old owner of the club sold Fuse two years ago. And yes now he is the organizer of ILT (I Love Techno). JayCee -Original Message- From: Nick Hardie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 12 september 2000 21:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] Napster question Fuse is a club in Belguim, which is involved with the I Love Techno festival. I believe Dave Clarke is a monthly resident there. Regards Nick Hardie DiscoTech [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 12 September 2000 20:14 Subject: [313] Napster question I have been finding very good 70-80 minute mixes from assorted parties throughout the US and europe on napster. One name keeps popping up on the files I download from napster. I keep seeing the name Fuse. I have all kinds of mixes from Dj Rush, Ben Sims, Marco Corolla, Adam Beyer, and the list goes on and on of top rated techno dj's and they all have been recorded at Fuse. For the life of me I do not know if fuse is a club, a weekly, or a major party. I dont believe its a US club, i think its a beligium or german club. If anyone knows what Fuse is i would appreciated it. Peace Z - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] T-1000
Well I saw him only once at the last edition of Tribal Gathering (the edition with the Detroit tent a live performance of Kraftwerk) where he blew me of my socks. Alltough all Detroit DJ's play at least 3 times a year in Belgium he doesn't (Stupid promoters). It definitely would be a shame if he retired. JayCee -Original Message- From: Joshua M. Hill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 7 september 2000 9:22 To: FC3 Richards Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] T-1000 see thats what i thought. so i asked him. and he confirmed it. although he did say something about throwing his own party instead of the demf next year. he was mad because he wasn't invited to spin (as he should have been). last year he would regularly say things about how old he was getting. that he couldn't take the superstar dj life anymore. of course he was always joking around, being a little sarcastic about it. so i never took him seriously. i don't know whats going to happen to pure-sonik records. and i don't know if he'll keep producing stuff. i imagine he will. even a conscious decision to stop making music doesn't mean much. its like saying 'oh ya, i'll quit smoking'. i was talking to him at a rave earlier this year in detroit. i remarked on the attendance and he said well thats detroit. and then there is that issue with the detroit rave scene anyway. most participants seem to be in high school now. alan started taking his music to the east coast and germany a while back. for all practical purposes that was the decision of most large detroit stars, to expose the music elsewhere. meanwhile, a new generation of party goers came in. alan spins at a detroit rave now and only 100 people show up. most of whom have never heard him before. i don't mean to over generalize with this, but that is really the way it seems to me. i think he should be booked at motor more. or possibly at the temple. derrick may has been there a few times in the last few months, his respect is not fading away because his name obviously stuck with detroit music. alan's name faded away from most people's discussions, i really think he deserves tons more respect than what he is getting right now. he was at motor once earlier this year, and has spun 2 raves that i know of. he will also be at motor next saturday with TP. ok. so you can tell i'm sad that he is retiring and i think he needs more respect in his hometown (at least from the new generation of listeners). -- Joshua Hill / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / icq: 3045997 www.hillhaus.com / www.ai-studio.com University of Michigan - Philosophy -- - Original Message - From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Joshua M. Hill' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:46 PM Subject: RE: [313] T-1000 i highly doubt he is retiring...he is at his peak. jeff -Original Message- From: Joshua M. Hill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] T-1000 alan is one of the friendliest djs you'll ever meet. this factor played a large role in how much i enjoy his music. i'm sure this has been said before on here, but he is retiring come new years. at an underground event in dertroit at the end of august, i guess he vowed never to spin in the detroit underground again, or so i heard. i missed it because i was sick. anyone else seeing him at motor for the benefit? cheers. -- Joshua Hill / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / icq: 3045997 www.hillhaus.com / www.ai-studio.com University of Michigan - Philosophy -- - Original Message - From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '101391' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:18 AM Subject: RE: [313] mills vs .ca it seems to me that alot of the detroit area DJ's are like that. i know that i have seen Alan (T-1000) Oldham do it on numerous occasions. I have seen Derrick do it. not Richie though. maybe hes just shy jeff -Original Message- From: 101391 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:53 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]
RE: [313] online record finders
I'm also a member of Belrave a Belgian mailinglist and one of our members was very happy with those services. JayCee -Original Message- From: Tyler Hanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 22 augustus 2000 12:12 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] online record finders Has anybody here used GEMM to order records over the internet? Specifically, GEMM has pointed me to a place in the netherlands that has a couple of records I've been hunting forever (space djz 'side on'). They take credit card payment and ship to the US but I'm still kind of skeptical. Any experiences here? --- Tyler Hanel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://members.home.com/tylero/music.htm --- San Diego, California - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] jungle brothers HipHouse
I know it's a bit late but what about : Reese : you're mine in the Shak'em up groove mix by anthony shakir probably one of the only Hip House trax with Kevin's name on it BTW : I've been told that this was also the record wich holds the first official Carl Craig Remix (Psyche you're mine mix) is it true? JayCee -Original Message- From: jim proffit [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 17 augustus 2000 14:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] jungle brothers HipHouse Otto wrote: James already mentioned Fast E-double D-I-E, Git On Up is a classic, no matter what anyone else says. So there. LOL! I bet the Tyree Cooper mix on the flip is still spinnable, with that hypnotic organ loop and just the Git On Up sample without the rap. Other recommendations: Doug Lazy - Let It Roll Tony Scott - The Chief Krush - House Arrest 2 in a Room How about Knock you out da box or You ain't nobody by Kool Rock Steady? Oh boy, there were bunch of those tracks... KC Flightt's Let's get jazzy -the ULTIMATE bass line. One record that never gets mentioned is The Renegades' TAG, from 91. Though it's not Hip house, it's a classic vocal (if not SCAT) track by Mike Dunn. Love it. Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Storm/Sonic Destroyer
Well who's surprised the biggest hit JamSpoon ever had, yes stella, the entire drumline was stolen from Moby's GO. (And yes I know the melodic stuff in Moby's Go comes from the Twin Peaks theme by Badalamenti but I guess he had to pay for that) JayCee -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 18 augustus 2000 13:04 To: 313 mailing list post Subject:Re: [313] Storm/Sonic Destroyer Another brilliantly informative and crystal clear UR statement, eh?! By the way, I'm with Simon Walley's take on this one. As he points out, there are very good reasons why Storm shouldn't have lifted from 'Sonic Destroyer'. God knows why Mark Spoon feels the need to indulge in such cheap tactics, though - he does (or did) have talent. Just look at the Jam Spoon 'Tales Of A Danceographic Ocean' EP on RS from way back, what a record that was: Keepmovin'don'tstopnolet'sgo... Yes we are aware of the x101 rip we will address that one after we finish Jaguar which at this point we are happy whoever plays it as long as it is our version! There are things going on which are unbelievable. spread the word - peace The Mercenary/UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Storm/Sonic Destroyer
Nope I got the original version of the two songs and when I started spinning I just to mix the two together as an exercise. JayCee BTW maybe they offered to let him do remixes after he complained? -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 18 augustus 2000 13:56 To: 'Jan Claeyssens'; 'Tom Robbins'; 313 mailing list post Subject:RE: [313] Storm/Sonic Destroyer Well who's surprised the biggest hit JamSpoon ever had, yes stella, the entire drumline was stolen from Moby's GO. (And yes I know the melodic stuff in Moby's Go comes from the Twin Peaks theme by Badalamenti but I guess he had to pay for that) Are you sure you are not talking about the Stella remixes moby did? I'm sure moby remixed stella... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shine in eindhoven
1° SHINE This Saturday it was Shine in Eindhoven, and with the weather we were having that part was already more than OK. It was a bit difficult to find the exact entrance point to the festival but that was the only thing you could hold against the organization. Once you entered the site (which was situated in the center of Eindhoven (Stadhuisplaats) on a concrete space surrounded by the local authority building and other office blocks) you could easily walk around. Shop around in the small shops (even with good 2nd hand records but hey who wants to walk around all day with 12's even for me that's a bit to much) One thing that was very special about this festival was the fact that in between DJ sets there were live gigs. So after Josh Wink (DJ), Lady Aida, Luke Solomon (spinning with a nice T-shirt : playing Detroit and than an arrow pointing down) or Surgeon (who surprised me with a good melodic Techno Set ) you could see hear live sets from : Secret Cinema who gave a very strong set, no annoying breaks in between songs, different approach to the songs as the original versions and really interacting with the audience. Good live set. Suburban knight also gave a good live set, smashing some of his « hitsongs » to pieces and coming out with different versions ( virtually irrecognizable) apart from the occasional recognizable chords but good ones. He played a lot of his early UR stuff. Acid junkies unfortunately played while I was watching Trip do brasil but they had certainly managed to capture the audience, the space was moving in unissimo and the audience was whipped into a frenzy when I went to check them out but it was their last song. Away from the mainstage their was a stage with a more leftfield approach ( even with DJ Grasshopper) were I saw the number one 2-Step DJ in holland GROOVEMASTER JOHNSON (That's what the MC told us anyway) good mixing but unfortunately I'm not really swept of my feet by two-step. Another surprise was Trip Do Brasil (Fr) a trio with two percussionists and a DJ, who managed to lock me in their grooves. Check them out if you have a chance. Unfortunately Fabio didn't show up, or he must have become white overnight. JayCee
RE: [313] shine in eindhoven
To be honest yes I kinda like it when they mash up their songs almost beyond recognizition, what's the use of playing live, if you stick to the original tracks. I must admit that I even liked the version of the art of stalking, but I tought hey I wonder if anybody will recognize this version. And thanks for telling me who was really spinning because I quite liked Locotus. But about Surgeon I tought he played BOOMBOOMBOOM tracks and so I was pleasently surprized with his set. JayCee -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 17 augustus 2000 14:20 To: 'Jan Claeyssens' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject:RE: [313] shine in eindhoven One thing that was very special about this festival was the fact that in between DJ sets there were live gigs. So after Josh Wink (DJ), Lady Aida, Luke Solomon (spinning with a nice T-shirt : playing Detroit and than an arrow pointing down) or Surgeon (who surprised me with a good melodic Techno Set ) you could see hear live sets from : Eerm It was not Luke Solomon spinning it was a frien of James Pennington called Locutus, for some reason Luke Solomon had a 'No Show'. Locutus was my favorite DJ of the day, yup beter then Surgeon, he played some nice Detroit techno and electro tracks and showed fine mixing skills. Suburban knight also gave a good live set, smashing some of his « hitsongs » to pieces and coming out with different versions ( virtually irrecognizable) apart from the occasional recognizable chords but good ones. He played a lot of his early UR stuff. Did you really like his live PA? I found it quite disappointing and he played a horrible version of his hit-track 'The art of stalking' The rhythms where way to hard, almost impossable to hear basslines and melodies. Acid junkies unfortunately played while I was watching Trip do brasil but they had certainly managed to capture the audience, the space was moving in unissimo and the audience was whipped into a frenzy when I went to check them out but it was their last song. Well i did saw them and tehy did their job. Acid Junkies always rock the crowed. I have seem them preform a lot of times and it's always nice to hear them, definitly hollands best live-act. Ference also did a DJ set and he started out with some garage tracks (and i do mean garage not garage house), later on he started playing some of his I-F tracks and the place exploded when he played Miss Kitten's remake off 'Sweet Dreams' from the Eurithmics.
RE: [313] OUTRAGE! When action????
I reckon the guys at UR should take them to court and demand compensation, and for the rest can we close the subject, it has only been like 6 months that we 've been discussing this. JayCee -Original Message- From: Nick Walsh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 17 augustus 2000 16:22 To: Simon Walley Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:Re: [313] OUTRAGE! When action I reckon the only thing we can do... is what we did with the jaguar rip off and that's boycott the label and artist and all of their products, encouraging others to do so along the way... That's the way I see it... They need to know that crime doesn't pay. cya, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Simon Walley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] OUTRAGE! When action Umm, John, are you sure we're talking about the same track? I listened to some realaudio samples on www.juno.co.uk and the bbc.co.uk site and it doesn't sound like the Jaguar ripoff at all? Also, half of Storm is Mark Spoon from JamSpoon, which would be a totally new character to this story. Its not that Jaguar rip-off, its some wack trance track that samples very heavily from X-101s _Sonic Destroyer_ (the 'rave' stabs at the beginning). The Jaguar rip-off was in (initially) a legally grey area due to its 'cover' status but this one is blatant sampling with, I'm guessing, no clearance from Mike/UR. Whats even more appalling is that, as pointed out, it got to number three in the UK (its now at number six). || [CiM] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] landcrusing
Well maybe it's a bit late for a response (But just had a long 4 day weekend) but yes this album is defeintly worth buying. I allready have it for a few years and still play it. Buy JayCee -Original Message- From: Mike Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zaterdag 12 augustus 2000 22:57 To: '313' Subject:[313] landcrusing Hello, I just recieved this review from the S://kimo mailing list, I thought fellow list members would be interested. Also, I have not heard this release, is it essential? I have heard mixed reviews and I would like a few more opinions. CRAIG, CARL: Landcruising CD (BLANCO Y NEGRO/WEA) $17.25 Now available as a mid-line reissue, this is Carl Craig's debut full length album, originally issued on the now-doomed UK WEA-associated Blanco Y Negro label in 1995. A concentrated, fully developed album (not a collection of previously released singles), Craig went all out to record one of the classic, defining records of Detroit-originated electronic music. A controversial record upon release (obvious guitar textures can be heard sampled; the overall sound is much more luxurious and sophisticated than usually expected from Detroit techno productions; it didn't contain any of Carl's numerous popular tracks under prior alias'; and, it was released on a label of dubious credibility w/ major label distribution), it is full of epic tracks and is a crucial document in Craig's career overview.. It has never been distributed in any proper sense in the US and remains largely unheard by Craig followers who are much more familiar with his Planet E/SSR output. Ripe for rediscovery. Take care, MT NP : All the Pretty Things : Involve 05 : beautiful... -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Spainmuzik
Check out the Space website in Ibiza (maybe you should find it Trough Home) don't have the exact coordinates. JayCee -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 10 augustus 2000 14:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] Spainmuzik Just one more shout out there for any one who knows anything of subtance happening in Barcelona or Ibiza in the next week and a half. Please help... chana Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20)
I just got one thing to say in this discussion first of all I'm a big fan of Kenny's music, but it don't really like his racial standpoints. And about the copying thing it would be easy to say that without Kraftwerk or even other german producers (E2-E4) there wouldn't be Techno. But I won't. All I'm interested in is hearing good music (and reading about good music) and that's important. And just saying that they're copying TSS TSS. That's no argument, everyone is influenced by good music (well unfortunatly not everyone ;-)) it is what you do with these influences that count there are people like Aphex Twin Christian Vogel who do completely different things. JayCee Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 8 augustus 2000 20:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313]Detroit bread butter (Ax-20) I find myself wondering where you guys are coming from... It seems your opinions regarding the state of music from Detroit is superficial at best...Where would your avant-guarde dj's be without someone to proceed them..to give them something to copy?Everyone has influeneces ..but in regards to techno those from other than the Detroit area are doing exactly what the Beatles did with rock-and-roll ..copying a black mans soul and claiming as their own and the uneducated pop music fans just consuming whatever's directed at them.All of the e_notes regarding this topic show an extreme lack of knowlegde regarding music from Detroit and it's quality and to prove this I need only say one name Kenny Dixon jrever heard of him? Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] derrick may in nyc last night
Well what a surprise, overhere in Belgium we are calling him Derrick MAYBE (He'll come). JayCee -Original Message- From: Bryan Kasenic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 4 augustus 2000 19:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] derrick may in nyc last night i get the 313-digest, so excuse me if this has come up already. did derrick ever show up at guernica in nyc last night? i left sometime after 2am ... had to get up for work today. i heard a bunch of different stories about why he was late ... hearing dj jes spin for 5 hours (he was there to open for mr. may) was actually alot of fun. it took him awhile to get the crowd going, but the floor was filled from about 11:30 (he filled the floor by dropping a bunch of tracks off of his own fresca label) until i left. he dropped c. craig's throw, an old derrick may track, a samuel sessions track, but mostly TONS of deep bassy filtered chicago house (old and new). great music, seamless mixing. the crowd was there for the music (the detroit techno parties always seem to attract the best crowds in nyc). -bryan Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] belgium next week
Well you can start by checking www.amphion.be http://www.amphion.be were most belgian clubs are present. And if you're looking for clubs with a chicago/detroit framework of music check FUSE and FOOD or eventually Café d'Anvers. JayCee -Original Message- From: Danny Wolfers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 6 augustus 2000 23:41 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject:[313] belgium next week I am going off to belgium next week. Anyone got some hot tips on good clubs in Antwerp Brussels where they're playing stuff like electro, the hague trax, disco, garage, detroit/chicago stuff? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
