RE: [313] mp3 top ten
Stewart Walker - Live in Osaka Chris Gray - Apt 3B (www.chrisgraydeep.com) Both are great sets. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:54 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] mp3 top ten just got a portable mp3 player (less than $90...damn i love technology). if you were to choose 2 or 3 mp3 sets you'd HAVE to place on disk what would you put on there? i ask because while i've heard several phat phat phat dj real audio dj sets, i haven't heard that many good mp3 sets peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] MP3.com Pick of the Week
It's been over a year since I've perused mp3.com and posted about my findings. I figure I'll start this again with this - www.mp3.com/curse . The tracks on this guy's site are TIGHT! Check out Right Out The Box and No More Summer for some excellent Detroit sounds. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems
Keep the laptop you have, it's fine for music. Get into a pcmcia audio interface of some kind (Hammerfall, Digigram, Echo, etc...) and a usb midi interface. I have an Inspiron5000 (P3-750, 256MB RAM, Win2k) and a Dell Latitude C610 (1GHz P3, 256MB RAM, Win2k) and plan on outfitting one of the two like this. XP, btw, is not the greatest for audio apps as it introduces a huge amount of CPU overhead over Win2000. You can't run nearly as many VSTi's with XP as you can on win2000 (I've tried already). XP requires a Pentium2 300 just to get going. Win2000 requires a Pentium 133. I use both at work and I can say that WinXP is a lot slower than Win2000 on identical equipment. Out of curiosity, have you downloaded the very latest drivers for your equipment? If not, you may want to do that first. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 -Original Message- From: Al Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:04 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] laptop music makers: problems and more problems Hi techies, Based on some advice I received on this list, a few months ago I bought a Dell Inspiron 4100 (i gig pentium processor, 128 meg ram running Win 2K) PC laptop to do music with. Only now have I started to kit it out to do music. I thought that I would get a USB box for audio because they're cheap. First I got a Midiman Quattro (audio+midi) which didn't work in the way it was supposed to (driver problems) so I sent that back and got an Edirol UA-5 and a Midiman 2x2. The midiman box didn't work (my laptop certainly doesn't like Midiman...) and the recording on the Edirol is full of pops and noise and I've fiddled with it for ages with no resolution of the problems. Has anyone else experienced problems like this? When I spoke to the shop that I got these bits from, they told me that they have a lot of trouble with PC laptops and have known issues with many of these USB boxes. I think that I have two options: either get a PCMCIA card for the machine that I have (more expensive, possibly becoming obsolete? but more reliable than USB) or just get a Mac and start making music instead of playing around with control panels and audio settings. Ahh What do you think? Regards, Al - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FS: Mac Powerbook 1400c
Powerbook 1400c/166MHz for sale: OS8.6 installed 64MB RAM 2GB HD Global Village 56K modem/10Mb NIC 100MB Zip drive 8x CDROM (good working condition, drive door is loose) 12x CDROM (Lens needs to be cleaned badly) External keyboard and mouse. Battery holds a full charge and a newer power adapter. $225 I prefer a local pickup/dropoff (Metro Detroit area), but I'll ship to anywhere in the US. Buyer pays shipping. Email me about it either at this address or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 734-507-6918 cell 734-369-2384 home George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Mac Powerbook 1400c - almost forgot!
Almost forgot!!! The Globalvillage NIC/Modem does NOT have the breakout box. That can be ordered from http://www.thesupplynet.com/searchresults.cfm?mySearch=mfgprodMadeBy=35 Powerbook 1400c/166MHz for sale: OS8.6 installed 64MB RAM 2GB HD Global Village 56K modem/10Mb NIC 100MB Zip drive 8x CDROM (good working condition, drive door is loose) 12x CDROM (Lens needs to be cleaned badly) External keyboard and mouse. Battery holds a full charge and a newer power adapter. $225 I prefer a local pickup/dropoff (Metro Detroit area), but I'll ship to anywhere in the US. Buyer pays shipping. Email me about it either at this address or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 734-507-6918 cell 734-369-2384 home George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons ==
Linux huh... That give it a higher geek factor than I had originally given it. Considering that there are patches and drivers for the Linux kernel than allow one to sustain 1ms of audio latency, I'm not that surprised that a Linux version was released. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:20 PM To: 'Giles Dickerson'; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail); Eric Scuccimarra Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons == I took a look at the website earlier, it can be installed on LINUX. PC only though... -p -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:12 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail); Eric Scuccimarra Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons == So what type of system do you need for final scratch? - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Eric Scuccimarra Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 4:05 PM To: Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) Subject: Re: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons == I think that the reason it's only written for BeOS, not Mac or Windows, is because of the audio latency. The last I heard they had it down to like 5 ms or something. If anyone has ever seen BeOS in action it's pretty impressive. There's no way a Mac or a Windows machine could handle audio latency that low. And 5 ms still isn't all that great for DJ uses, at least in my opinion. At 03:58 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Giles Dickerson wrote: 1. I had spine surgery 1 year ago for an injury I incurred most probably from carrying my records to my radio show and DJ gigs. It caused me three years of unbearable pain (anyone who knew me then can attest to this by the shear number of pills I was taking) and my limp. I ended up in the emergency room in New York and then on Morphine for a week and into neurosurgery. I would like to avid another back injury and therefore not carrying my records to gigs is very appealing. 2. My record bag can only hold 40 - 60 records, and is limiting as I'm sure you all know. You know that moment where you still have apile of records you HAVE to bring with you to this gig but there's just no room! With a big selection of my records on a laptop I can have a few hundred tracks with me. 3. With my music in a laptop or hard drive in my carry-on bag I never have to worry about flying / losing / breaking my records in airports / baggage claims. Ever know anyone that's had a crate of their favorite records ripped off? Don't answer that. All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying vinyl, I love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on wax, but come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a happy camper. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF Commercial
That, plus this is the same guy that threw a rave in Detroit right after The Slim Shady LP to celebrate it's success. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:40 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Commercial I didn't, I guess it's a matter of opinion... but I do know that Eminem is one very sarcastic character and often says the opposite of what he really feels. Reverb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/02 15:07 PM On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious... he's just dogging on Moby and more than likely meant it as nobody listen's to techno-- (people are ignorant who think this) I'd say it's pretty implied in the tone of what he's saying. huh? I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our beloved genre. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] testing 1-2
Mic check 1-2, check 1-2... Is this thing on??? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ugh
BUT!!! You're still going, now aren't you? :) -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ugh from McCollum's article in the Free Press today (http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf24_20020524.htm): Scanning the weekend's lineup of 68 artists, some clear trends emerge. There's less IDM, or intelligent dance music, the sort of stuff favored by Craig. There's more straight-up club sounds. This is exactly what irks me ... so Jazzanova, P'taah and Titonton are considered IDM? Can't play their music in a club? Hmm. Not to start a genre-splinter thread, but this type of talk about this year's festival makes me ill. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Slightly OT: Music Software??
Until yesterday morning it was a PC running Cubase 5r4, Reason 3.0, Rebirth 2, FM7, and a truckload of other VST plugins. I've seen the light now, Logic Audio Platinum 5 for PC rahwks! I hated Logic with a passion until this release, but this thing has everything I've been looking for in a sequencing/audio package. -Original Message- From: Malcolm J. McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:58 AM To: 313 Techno List; Acid Jazz; deep house list; downtempo list; IDM Subject: [313] Slightly OT: Music Software?? Can you guys share with me your favorite music packages for creating tracks as well as dj mixing software. Thanks Malcolm http://www.big12inch.com House Music - Vinyl Records,CDs,Hard to Find Records - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: [313] Fwd: too much gear
Sounds like it's time for an Audigy or SBLive w/Emu APS drivers. -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:29 PM To: :P Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[2]: [313] Fwd: too much gear Friday, May 17, 2002, 12:16:37 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: P ASIO support for a sb 128: not happening P twist a knob and wait 200ms for the CC change? sure I tend to do my knob tweaking in Orion's event channels instead of touching the actual . . . er, virtual knobs. But yeah, latency can be an issue. Sometimes its faster to ping a Quake server in Alaska than it is to ping my own soundcard :) - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF Update
Is that over by the Slinky Stage or Cream's? I think Pop Culture got desparate for sponsors. Why didn't they just approach another auto manufacturer? (I envision Aux88 My A.U.X. Mind being used for a Dodge Neon commercial...) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:41 PM To: PhedX Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Update Ministry of Sound Right next to the Gatecrasher stage. At least Ford was somewhat local. MEK PhedX [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org v cc: Subject: [313] DEMF Update 05/09/02 12:19 PM The latest from the every rotating venue DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL 2002 KICKS IT UP A NOTCH WITH HIP-HOP AND INTERNATIONAL SPONSOR Subterraneous and Dilated Peoples prepare to jam as Ministry of Sound lays claim to stage co-sponsorship on new DJ Tower Detroit - Pop Culture Media, the Detroit-based company that owns and produces the annual Detroit Electronic Music Festival, is announcing the addition of two nationally known Hip-Hop groups to the line-up and a new stage sponsorship by internationally known Ministry of Sound. Joining the performance line up over the three-day Memorial Weekend May 25th, 26th and 27th at Hart Plaza will be Subterraneous and Dilated Peoples. Detroit Hip-Hop is breaking through not only here, but nationally as well, said Mike Huckaby, member of the DEMF Artistic Board of Directors. Both of these groups bring a different style of Hip-Hop to the table and they truly represent the underground. Subterraneous is known as one of the most influential underground Hip-Hop crews coming out of Michigan. The group consists of OneManyArmy, Decompoze, Magestic Legend,Malaki, Illite and Phrikshun. The group has garnered a positive reputation for displaying their individual styles and then coming together during a performance to demonstrate a unique and powerful presence. The group recently released their latest album Waterworld Too. They are scheduled to perform prior to George Clinton's 8-p.m. performance on the DEMF stage at 1:30 p.m. Sunday, May 26, 2002. For more info on the group go to www.subterraneousrecords.com. Nationally acclaimed Dilated Peoples, formed in the mid-90s, has been blowing the scene up with raging underground singles such as Third Degree and Work the Angles before they embarked on a wildly successful road trip with a film documentary about hip-hop DJs. The group has been featured in REMIX magazine and is noted for their recently released album Expansion Team. Dilated Peoples is well known for providing original and inspiring performances for fans. They are scheduled to perform following a 6 p.m. live jam session by Advent on the DEMF stage at 7:30 p.m. on Monday, May 27, 2002. For more info on the group go to www.dilatedpeoples.com. Meanwhile, the wildly popular and internationally known Ministry of Sound has claimed an envious and prominent position as a stage co-sponsor on this year's new DJ Tower. They share a co-sponsorship with Miller Genuine Draft where top-notch performers such as DJ Zapp, Adam X and the DEMF's own member of the Artistic Board of Directors K. Hand will musically spin techno fans to higher heights of dance and sound. We are extremely happy to have the Ministry of Sound join this year's festival, said PCM president and festival founder Carol Marvin. They represent the absolute best in electronic music entertainment. This multi-media giant is marketing the festival in 23 U.S. markets alone to demonstrate once again their ability to provide fun for fans on a scale unmatched by anyone else in the business. Their presence on the new DJ Tower at this year's festival promises dance like never before. The annual Detroit Electronic Music Festival is known as the world's largest free dance party that attracted 1.7 million visitors to last year's event and attracted a reported $147 million in economic impact to metro Detroit. -end- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival
Just out of curiosity, could someone point me to the Techno Rulebook? I'd like to peruse it's pages to find out where guys like Theorem, Christian Bloch, and Kit Clayton have gone wrong. We obviously have been mistaken in calling their music Techno as they sound nothing alike or like any of the more established artists. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:43 PM To: Hugo Sweet Cc: 313 (E-mail) Subject: Re: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Sure - that's why all the new electro acts sound like either Fischerspooner or Miss Kitten and the Hacker. As Rik once said on the Young Ones - We're all so decadent! MEK Hugo Sweet [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org tles.co.nz cc: Subject: [313] Re: Back to the Future and the Electro revival 05/05/02 07:54 PM This article in the New York Times makes some interesting points about fashion and music, electro versus techno, and about retro-futurism: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/05/arts/music/05REYN.html?pagewanted=all Here's a quote to fire things up: Techno is strangling itself with its own provincial rulebook, said Mr. Miller of Adult. People have finally grown tired of this. Electro has no real sense of rules, and thus there is a lot of excitement, innovation and creativity. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!!
Passin' the information along. -Original Message- From: chrisgraydeep Sent: Thursday May 02, 2002 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: track mode party with larry heard @ demf Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change. Please post to 313 list: What: Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com) When: Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA Where: CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp Price: about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak Time: Door open at 10pm Lineup: Live performances at open: Hanna Kenny Dixon, Jr. Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers) DJs after live peformances: Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC) Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London) Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue ch ange!!!
I'll check with Chris Gray on that, he asked me to forward it to the list. -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:53 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Cc: Jones, George Subject: Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!! I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale. Is this true, and if so where can you get them? G Jones, George wrote: Passin' the information along. -Original Message- From: chrisgraydeep Sent: Thursday May 02, 2002 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: track mode party with larry heard @ demf Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change. Please post to 313 list: What: Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com) When: Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA Where: CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp Price: about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak Time: Door open at 10pm Lineup: Live performances at open: Hanna Kenny Dixon, Jr. Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers) DJs after live peformances: Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC) Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London) Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue ch ange!!!
Just re-confirmed with Chris that there will NOT be any pre-sale tickets for this event. Oh well... Such is life. -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:53 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Cc: Jones, George Subject: Re: [313] FW: track mode party with larry heard @ demf - Venue change!!! I heard there was suppose to be advance tickets on sale. Is this true, and if so where can you get them? G Jones, George wrote: Passin' the information along. -Original Message- From: chrisgraydeep Sent: Thursday May 02, 2002 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: track mode party with larry heard @ demf Here are the updated details, notice that there has been a venue change. Please post to 313 list: What: Track Mode Recordings Party (trackmode.com) When: Sunday May 26, 2002, during DEMF, Detroit USA Where: CPop (not the DEMF stage, but venue located on Woodward St., not far from Hart Plaza https://www.cpop.com/gu/index.asp Price: about $20 USD at open, $30 USD at peak Time: Door open at 10pm Lineup: Live performances at open: Hanna Kenny Dixon, Jr. Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers) DJs after live peformances: Brett Dancer (Track Mode, NYC) Robert Barrett (Music Is... Records, London) Theo Parrish (Sound Signature, Detroit) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] whats on now
Mantronix - Bassline, Steady B - Serious (remix), Man Parrish - Boogie Down Bronx, and The Merciless Amir - A Day Without a Rhyme (to make it 313 related). Today is Old School day for me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage
At this point, going to a Detroit Techno and Fish Fry Festival by Ubersubterran-what's-his-name sounds good too. -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage will you charge 5 bux per little ass cup of beer? because if not, Im not going :P -Joe www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage So, like my friend is having this bar-b-que on Memorial day weekend - we have a couple of turntables and some good eats. Everyone is invited as it seems nothing else is going to be happening that weekend. ;) MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ta.com cc: Subject: [313] Motor Lounge not sponsoring a DEMF stage 04/15/02 05:29 PM And now for the next shoe dropping: From: motordetroit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Motor-Detroit NOT sponsoring DEMF stage Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:20 -0400 Motor-Detroit Will NOT be Sponsoring a Stage at DEMF 2002 Despite reports to the contrary, Motor-Detroit will not be sponsoring a stage at DEMF 2002. We decided this year that is wasn't in our best interest to be involved. says Motor owner Dan Sordyl. He explains that Pop Culture Media listed Motor as a sponsor this year do to a miscommunication. We are incredibly proud to have worked with the DEMF in the past, especially the first year, continues Sordyl, But do to a variety of circumstances, this year we are out. Motor will be open for DEMF afterpartys, including the now traditional Sunday session with Motor resident, John Acquaviva. John looks forward to it every year, as do we. Say Sordyl. The line-up for Friday and Saturday nights will be announced in the coming weeks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] test
It won't accept Rich Text either. -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] test you got HTML turned on? 313 won't accept those posts ... pretty sure no attachments too. -d At 1:43 PM -0400 4/16/2002, sean deason wrote: sorry. my postings have seemed to vanished today - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
I've finally had a chance to listen to all 3 tracks now. I honestly don't see what the noise is about. Angel Alanis, Stewart Walker, and probably dozens of other artists have done tracks that are similar to Dan's tracks. Matter of fact, both Angel Alanis and Stewart Walker's have tracks that are much closer to Dan's music that this new Josh Wink track. Why is this such a big deal? Everyone is inspired by another artists work at some point in time, why are you guys making such a fuss over this one instance? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bell v Wink
So, if Josh Wink hadn't included the Freak sample in this track, would anyone care about it? It seems to me that, outside of the money and fame issue, this track wouldn't be scrutinized if it were just another bouncy bit of minimal techno. Like I've said before, too many people make tracks that sound like this. The only thing that differentiates this from any of them is 1 sample. That alone makes it an unauthorized remix or a blatant ripoff. Remove the sample, and what do you have? A half baked track that sounds like it was done on Rebirth in about 15 minutes. -Original Message- From: Joe Marougi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Wink I agree Brendan...people that come with arguments like the one you responded to I don't believe quite 'get it'. There is a clear distinction between Inspiration and straight Bites, and when you factor in the compensation that you mentioned, it makes it that much worse. JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Bell v Wink -Original Message- From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2002 17:10 Everyone is inspired by another artists work at some point in time, why are you guys making such a fuss over this one instance? The distinction is that Wink stands to make quite a lot of money from his track, while most of the other guys who do tracks that are derivative of Dan Bell's work just put out obscure 12 that only us weirdos even hear about, let alone buy. That's what's annoying - the amount of reward Wink gets for a piece of derivative work is utterly out of scale with the effort and creativity he's injected into it. No-one would even be speaking about this if Josh Wink was an unknown, dropping 500 pressings of a DBX-style tune on a label no-one had heard of. Maybe it's just envy - perhaps we'd all like a job where all we do is make lazy, plagiaristic tracks, using a deep pool of underground music to draw from, and then banking serious cash as the general public flock to our new and innovative releases. It'd be easy, wouldn't it? I'd make a track that was a pretty straight copy of Rhythm from Minimal Nation - sampling George Clinton as well, but programming the main melody line on a Nord Lead and maybe sticking some 909 rimshots in as well, then wait for the dollars to roll in while suing everyone who mentions the name Robert Hood on a message board. Life would be good! Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up
I'm pretty floored that Sundiata is playing there at all! Unless there's a DJ that has snatched his name, Sundiata is a great African music performer. I've seen him and his troop numerous times in my life and I've always walked away with a smile. -Original Message- From: Holly MacDonald-Korth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:27 PM To: 'Dan Sicko'; Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] official DEMF lineup up and why is roy davis jr playing at 12:00? -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:15 AM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up It actually says Drexciya!!! I know! But it doesn't say Drexciya (live) [semi-rhetorical question] And why aren't they closing out that stage?? -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
like vip rooms in clubs... What, are we gonna get to drink Cristal and talk about how much ice we have in these VIP rooms? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: DEMF- Larry Heard, Moodymann, Hanna...
Chris Gray (of Deep4Life Records fame) asked me to forward this to the list. For some reason, his messages aren't making it to the list. Mine won't either unless I perform a bit of trickery in Outlook every time I want to send to the list. -Original Message- From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 10:11 AM To: Otto Cc: 313 Subject: Re: [313] FW: DEMF- Larry Heard, Moodymann, Hanna... Where does this come from?? ben On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Otto wrote: Just when you thought they couldn't top last year's lineup... That's it, I'm booking my flight. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] data general=== ==www.umich.edu/~btausig=== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: DEMF- Larry Heard, Moodymann, Hanna...
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RE: [313] test
test 456. I can't get through for some reason... -Original Message- From: SOS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:51 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] test Importance: High test 123 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Test2
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[313] FW: DEMF- Larry Heard, Moodymann, Hanna...
Forwarding this to the list for Chris Gray... Hey guys, I just spoke with Brett and since there maybe isn't that much definitive information about what to expect at this year's DEMF, I thought I'd pass this along to all those interested. Thanks for allowing my intrusion. Brett Dancer and Track Mode Recordings announce the following event: = Sunday, May 26th Banco Building on Woodward 10pm-7am $25 (approximately, TBD) Live acts: -- Hanna (Warren Harris) Moodymann (J.A.N.) Larry Heard (Mr. Fingers) - Larry also on vocals, accompanied by Norma Jean Bell on sax and Jerry the Cat on percussion DJs: Robert Barrett, Music Is... Records - UK Brett Dancer, Track Mode Recordings Malik Theo Parrish, Sound Signature - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
I could. Gotta convince my wife that doing a free show would be a good thing, though. :) -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; laura gavoor Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business we should do it. anyone else motivated to work it out? -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business how come 313 doesnt throw a party? I think that's a great idea of this years DEMF. Wish I could be there. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
I can't remember a time when Techno was THE accepted black music among the population in tha D. From the time I moved to Detroit in '85 until I graduated high school, it was all about hip hop. Now, Techno and house were acceptable, meaning, one could listen to either without getting stares or someone questioning your sexual/ethnic preference. Why it did it stop being acceptable? Possibly due to it being embraced by the gay community in detroit. How could house or techno possibly good if a gay guy was vibin' to the same song as some hard thug? That's the only reason I can think of. I remember spinning in 1991 to crowds at colleges and house parties that had a good percentage of gays there. If any of you on the list might remember, back then, it almost seemed as though gays were the only folks that could appreciate good house or techno. That alone is enough to turn the black male population of Detroit away from Techno and House. When the brotha's stop listening to it, the sista's will too. To it's credit, there were still some tracks that stayed in rotation on the radio mix shows and in the clubs like Clear, Pacific 0101, Blow Your House Down, Basstronic, Gypsy Woman, Plastic Dreams, and Taxicab. I'm probably wrong. I hope I'm wrong. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Ok sorry but I'm kinda going backward in reading my mail today - After reading reading all the opinions on this very real very serious problem several questions and other points come up in my head - Let me begin with this question - why has hip-hop replaced techno/house as the accepted black music form among black people? I've read countless times that techno was THE music for young black people (at least in Detroit) until hip-hop came along - so I have to ask what is/was it about techno that, apparently, makes it not relevant to the greater black culture? And I'll ask the same about hip-hop? What was/is it about hip-hop that pulled a previously techno listening audience toward it and away from techno? From there I have to bring up an article that I think was in Newsweek , and another magazine which title slips my mind, about the latest Grammy Awards, the drop in CD sales and rise in pirated music (Audiogalaxy, napster, etc.). The author was making the point that the connection between the drop in CD sales and the high rotation of music from the shallow well of pop on radio and MTV has caused people to turn off and search out their own music tastes. Where am I going with this the music business is run by a bunch of culturally biased and/or ignorant people who have definite ideas about the value of the music based on their racist crap. yeah, are they ignorant and completely clueless as to what people REALLY want? - all they know is this current system makes them loads of money - I'm talking about record and radio execs. So why is it that people listen MORE and stayed tuned to one station MORE when less diversity is played??? I've seen more and more essays on this topic in local and national press - about how absolutely awful the current state of the recording and broadcasting industry is and how people are getting more and more fed up with the Brittanys and NYSYCs. But something doesn't jive with me when I think about how people seem to tune in more often and stay tuned to music that they don't like?! Can anyone explain these things to me? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: 03/06/02 09:42 AMSubject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if it was it is called the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL. you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us in a white skin and ignorant of history. UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect from the business end. why should Elvis or Eminem make more money and get more credibility than Ike Turner or Redman??? Because in AMerica white people doing Black art is always seen as a marvel... Look at NYSYNC and the list goes on. Look at Black rock group Fishbone. Are you telling me they are good enough to get paid. The point is this; the people who run the business are full of isms that determine who gets the spotlight. No one is denying anyone their right to listen to what they want but don't forget the history. I spoke with a Black rocker in NYC and he told me that many A R men didn't know what to do with Black guys playing soulful rock music. The record executive behind Digable Planets told them they were not hard translate black enough for hip-hop. So Juan is in the same
RE: [313] RE: REGARDING BUSINESS
The thread will defy you and continue to live for months for it is the spawn of SATAN!!! -Original Message- From: Kyle J Dupuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE: REGARDING BUSINESS DIE, thread...please, for the love of god, DIE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
heat to 3500 degrees???!!! -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business hi guys. while i have been following the thread with great zest and interest, i'd like to share something with everyone that my good friend ana sent me. i made this last night and it was fantastic. so good i'd like to share with you, just to serve as an intermission between rounds. it tastes absolutely heavenly and i think everyone should bake a loaf while composing their next email. just to have some comfort food nearby. - While this easy version of garlic bread is fine just as it is, it is also very flexible. Consider mixing chopped fresh basil or sun-dried tomatoes into butter mixture before using. 1/4 cup (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, at room temperature 2 tablespoons olive oil 2 cloves garlic, minced 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 loaf (1 pound) hearty Italian bread 1. Heat oven to 3500. Mix butter, olive oil, garlic and salt in small bowl. 2. Slice bread into 18 pieces, about 3/4-inch thick, without cutting through bottom crust, so slices stay attached. Spread butter mixture, dividing evenly between slices, about 1 teaspoon. Wrap bread tightly in foil. 3. Bake in 3500 oven for 15 to 20 minutes or until butter is melted and bread is hot. Unwrap carefully and serve hot. okay. game on! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] old school?
There are still DJ's that mix up different types of music in a manner you describe. It's getting rarer to see someone like this, but it still happens (insert shameless plug for myself!). I think that DJ's have gotten themselves stuck in this I will only play [X thpe of music] and if you're coming to see me that's all you'll get. mode. Personally, I think people WANT more variety and, back in 1987-1993, that's exactly what most Detroit DJ's gave the crowds. I cam into DJ'ing in 1990 from working with Gary Chandler, Rob Brown, and Charles Henderson at a car audio shop (the last two you probably wouldn't know unless you live and breathe local detroit DJ's). Back then, no one played just 1 type of music. We all played house, hip hop, miami bass, techno, or whatever; that was the norm. In the few shows I've done in the last year, I watch the crowd react with an Oh-no-he-didn't! attitude if I mixed some extra crusty NWA or World Class Wreckin Cru into an electro mix or Blow Your House Down over anything. I never stopped mixing music genere's, it's not necessary. People like it, I can't understand why anyone would stop doing it. -Original Message- From: RC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:14 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] old school? so I went and saw Derrick May dj here in sydney a coupla nights ago. I thought it was so so. (any syndeysiders who attended and disagree please jump in - it could have just been me) i think for a dj you need one of two things to set u apart from the crowd - either the cool records you have that no one else does or the way you play records (ie. technical skills). Really cool djs have both. sure derrick played a few classics like Dr Love and Mighty real, and Jaguar and red planet and climax but it was all kind of played in a boring way, a little bit of eq work and otherwise smooth mixing - i've seen him four times and this was easily the worst. my friend and fellow valued list member e,r gave me this burn cd of derrick on wjlb detroit back in 88 - fuckin crazy !- three decks, doubles of every record, beat juggling, acid house mixed with todd terry , liasons dangereuses, eddie grant, salsoul disco, kms - he didn't hold back in those days. why does he now? is it cause he's 40? is it cause he can't be assed? same with jeff mills - I've got these wizard tapes of him in the late 80's - again 3 decks - doubles of eveything egyptian lover to beasties to p.e. to adonis to model 500 to prince all in 10 minutes. I know he used to record those shows on slow speeds and then pitch them up for the playback on air. but now jeff is a little boring too - where's the diversity, where's the skill gone; detroit i know they play long sets compared to their old radio slots (which were probably like an hour long) but I know they can do it - i mean everytime I hear claude young play; one could ring out his shirt and pants to replace the 10kgs of body weight he lost during his 2 hour set because he plays like fucken madman - scratching with his forehead and not letting 4 bars pass without some sort of beat juggle or scratch trick. whats wrong with me? rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FS: My recording rig
BIG SALE!!! EVERYTHING'S Priced to GO!!! It's all gotta go! Look at these prices, I MUST BE CRAZY!!! Anyways... Roland R8mkII w/Voice Crystal RAM card - $350 Roland JX3P wPG200 - $350 Sequential Multi-Trak - $200 Yamaha TX7 - $100 Yamaha TX81z - $100 Yamaha TG55 - $200 Peavey Deltafex Twin - $75 Alesis NanoVerb - $50 Alesis 3630 - $100 Behringer 1604A mixer - $150 ProCo Rat - $25 5 space rack case - $50 The Sequential's pitch bend doesn't work, but it responds to it via midi. The battery in it will also be replaced before sale. Most prices are negotiable. I prefer a Metro Detroit area pickup (Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti included). Peace y'all. George Jones Technical Services Administrator PentaMark Worldwide
RE: [313] DEMF
that's about the size of it there. There is/was, however, the thought running around that we'll see the likes of Sasha VanOkenweed at the festival (that prolly wouldn't go over well with most of us). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DEMF Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text I'm a new subscriber here, so I've missed all this DEMF malarky. If someone can be bothered, can they explain what the big problem is? All I know is that Carl Craig got the rocket and no one likes this Carol Marvin. - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF
Personally, I don't care whether Sasha or Judge Jules or whomever plays. I have always though it silly that Europe has big, 3 day electronic music events by the dozen and Detroit (or just America in general) had next to none. The DEMF has inspired more of this in the US, with events popping up everywhere. The DEMF, of done properly, could stick around far longer than the likes of the St. Louis Electronic Music Festival or others. Diversity could be the key to that, but acceptance of such diversity (in Detroit anyways) may not happen quickly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] DEMF Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text What gives everyone the impression that the festival would have the likes of those people on though?? That committee mentioned earlier looked OK to me. I must admit that when I saw the festival advertised last year and saw some of the names involved (Carl Cox) I did wonder what that had to do with detroit music. O.K. Question - If this festival could only go ahead because it had a large corporate sponsor and had to include a stage of the Tong/Oakenfold variety, but still was representing Detroit with several smaller stages would you rather that than no festival at all? Jones, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/02/2002 14:47:04 To: Alex Bond/UK/INF/PwC, 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] DEMF that's about the size of it there. There is/was, however, the thought running around that we'll see the likes of Sasha VanOkenweed at the festival (that prolly wouldn't go over well with most of us). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:40 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DEMF Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text I'm a new subscriber here, so I've missed all this DEMF malarky. If someone can be bothered, can they explain what the big problem is? All I know is that Carl Craig got the rocket and no one likes this Carol Marvin. - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] New Deepchord CD
Just got this from DC this morning. deepchord DC 15 Limited Edition CD: Now available to our patrons only though the deepchord website. A collection of unreleased music and reconstructions from Von Schommer. This CD release is not available at wholesale prices. Edition will be limited to preorder amount. details/ordering at http://www.deepchord.com George Jones Technical Services Administrator PentaMark Worldwide (248) 293-4780
RE: [313] DEMF or what?
Can someone suggest booking The Godfathers of Techno? (http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/59/godfathers_of_techno.html) -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Fw: [313] DEMF or what? Don't forget the ALL FORD ALL THE TIME Stage. jim - Original Message - From: jonathan morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: joshtwentythree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF or what? i think the police dashboard video from some of tim allens detroit roadside sobriety tests on large screen would be a fine addition to these stellar offerings ... On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 03:34 PM, joshtwentythree wrote: Well actually, there are going to be a lot of really exciting things going on at the DEMF this year...first off, there will be a group of greeters at the main gate they are a group of highly trained howler monkeys with a penchant for throwing poop...they will be wearing t-shirts that say demf posse in da hiz-ouse muthafuckas so you can easily spot them, they will have great goodies to hand out, such as throwing poop at you, and stuff with poop on it...also maybe some things they were gnawing on...some of the top performers will be regular detroit favorites such as Lisa Lashes, Judge Jules, Paul Oakenfold and a performance by 313 favorite, Moby...also a special rare performance by dubiously named godfather of detroit techno...Cat Stevens!...the master of ceremony this year will be none other then the lovable scamp carrot top, and a special speaker...TV's Bob Saget!!! he will be regaling the crowd with anecdotes of his early years growing up in the ghettos of detroit...also, a new addition this year will be that, instead of buying overpriced food from vendors, they will actually be able to just knock you down, take your wallet and smear some sort of food substance on your face while asking you like that bitch!...so as you can see the demf as a lot to offer this year. josh23 --- Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think anyone on the list knows anything ... anybody tried emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? -d At 6:35 PM -0500 2/12/2002, Chana Goodman wrote: WE WANT TO KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW!!! [fists pounding] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Kenny's (Larkin) new record (cd)?
From what I remember, the album was supposed to be called The Narcissist. It was supposed to be released before the end of 2001. Unless I'm mistaken, this was the material he played live at his record release party last Feb. at Motor. -Original Message- From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:18 AM To: Koen Mariën; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Kenny's (Larkin) new record (cd)? no, no i got that one, though i don't think it's diappointing, i love 'march', and 'paranoid' there was a simultaneous release on art of dance called '7:nites' e.p. and featured the tracks plankton and clavia's north, latter was featured on all access, beautiful e.p. pressed on green-ish transparent vinyl At 13:11 08.02.02 +0100, you wrote: I think you mean 'Seven Days'. The album was released on the belgian Elypsia label, but IMHO it was a bit of a disappointment, although 'The Bar' is a kick ass track and it featured a new mix of 'War of the Worlds'. check www.elypsia.com ! koen --- BEATS @ KindaMuzik http://www.kindamuzik.net/beats -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 8 februari 2002 12:36 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Kenny's (Larkin) new record (cd)? just have to think of a 12 that appeared about five years ago that announced an album called '7:nites' from dark comedy, but i guess it's something that will never be released ?!? At 13:08 08.02.02 +0200, you wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Why does he want to disappear all of a sudden? Has he a large deal with a major under his own name with material pending? That's sometimes a reason I wouldn't know if he wants to disappear or not. He has been doing stand-up comedy lately (because he apparently has experience in that area too, and wants to do it for a change, I suppose), so maybe you're referring to that. Mr Larkin has been using at least one pseudonym that I know of, Dark Comedy, so I was wondering if he's decided to release material under that name again. J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] (North Metro Detroit) 89.1FM
Since moving from Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti I've been looking for an NPR station to replace the great WEMU 89.1 station from Eastern Michigan (found one 101.9). This morning, I instinctivly hit 89.1 on the dial and was greeted by what sounded like minimal techno (until some god-awful crooning interrupted a decent track). I live in Sterling Heights and noticed that as I traveled west, the station would switch over to EMU's station and back. Anyone know what this 89.1FM is in the northeast metro area is? Do they ever play real detroit techno or what? George Jones Technical Services Administrator PentaMark Worldwide
RE: [313] about the members
Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... Also known for not putting up with shady promoters who say that Carl Craig will be performing somewhere when he's not even booked. ;) -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members ?: Rob Theakston Live: in Ypsilanti. Biofeedback: Worked at Planet E for three years learning everything humanly possible about running a record label. Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... helped behind the scenes at dozens of parties over the past two years (including the first DEMF). Currently serving stint as label manager @ Ghostly International, helping to run Touch in Ann Arbor, co-host of Crush Collision (WCBN), and technical weirdo at All Music Guide.working with amazing co-workers such as fellow list members (and like minded fanatics) andy kellman and john bush. Often mistaken for: Francois K.; and on good days my cousin Jamie (applicable UK only). Music: Obsessive fanatic. Soul, Funk, Jazz, Techno, Disco, House, Broken Beat, Afro Beat, Emo, Punk, Folk, Beach Boys, Rap, New Wave, Industrial, IDM, DIM, DIY, you name it. even Yma Sumac and Duane Eddy. though not at the same time Five records that changed my life for the better (in no order): Carl Craig : More Songs about Food and Revolutionary Art Fugazi : Repeater Beach Boys : Pet Sounds Beatles : Revolver Stevie Wonder : Songs in the Key of Life Up next: my own record label, my own music, guest starring on The West Wing and dinner theater reprising the role of Danny Zucko in Grease. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members huh
There just HAD to be one person to find fault with this... If noone did it, it just wouldn't be [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:13 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members huh uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, got more records than you.. i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous. how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important people supposed to post their stats...i dont get it _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: Shady Promoters and Carl Craig ... (no association whatsoever intended)
The incident I stumbled onto is probably pretty similar to others. There was a guy in my old apt building that crowned himself a promoter. He got a night lined up at the bar down the block from us and needed to stir up some publicity for the night so he lied about having Carl Craig booked. He got caught up (and almost got his a_s kicked) after I had it confirmed that Carl WASN'T booked. I've heard a number of stories about big name DJ's falsely advertised at a venue just to get publicity. -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:04 AM To: Jones, George; 'Rob Theakston'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Shady Promoters and Carl Craig ... (no association whatsoever intended) Ah well, maybe some-one can therefore shed a bit of light on this one. My m8s I were all looking forward to hearing Carl at Turnmills last Saturday night until we saw in the weeks before that he was no longer listed or on the flyer. The day before an e-flyer was sent to one girl saying he was playing but when she queried it with turnmills they did admit he wasnt playing. I've had countless nights when the listed DJ never turned up at Turnmills for their Headstart, including once to see Dave Clarke last year (alas not Dave Clark of this board fame - sorry to have confused u ) who not only didnt show, but didnt have any mention of turnmills on his own site's booking page. This was his booking after he failed to show when on the night he wasalso booked to play Atomic Jam. Some 3 or 4 months after he hadn't shown either ... or maybe he just wasnt booked. - Original Message - From: Jones, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Rob Theakston' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 01:53 Subject: RE: [313] about the members Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... Also known for not putting up with shady promoters who say that Carl Craig will be performing somewhere when he's not even booked. ;) -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members ?: Rob Theakston Live: in Ypsilanti. Biofeedback: Worked at Planet E for three years learning everything humanly possible about running a record label. Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... helped behind the scenes at dozens of parties over the past two years (including the first DEMF). Currently serving stint as label manager @ Ghostly International, helping to run Touch in Ann Arbor, co-host of Crush Collision (WCBN), and technical weirdo at All Music Guide.working with amazing co-workers such as fellow list members (and like minded fanatics) andy kellman and john bush. Often mistaken for: Francois K.; and on good days my cousin Jamie (applicable UK only). Music: Obsessive fanatic. Soul, Funk, Jazz, Techno, Disco, House, Broken Beat, Afro Beat, Emo, Punk, Folk, Beach Boys, Rap, New Wave, Industrial, IDM, DIM, DIY, you name it. even Yma Sumac and Duane Eddy. though not at the same time Five records that changed my life for the better (in no order): Carl Craig : More Songs about Food and Revolutionary Art Fugazi : Repeater Beach Boys : Pet Sounds Beatles : Revolver Stevie Wonder : Songs in the Key of Life Up next: my own record label, my own music, guest starring on The West Wing and dinner theater reprising the role of Danny Zucko in Grease. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
Name: George Jones IV Alias: Logic7, Subject28 Occupation: Technical Systems Administrator - PentaMark WorldWide (Chrysler's only marketing/ad firm) Residence: Sterling Heights, Mi I produce music as a hobby, but I'm gonna try to do more with it this year. I DJ occasionally around Detroit. I'm also into graphic design, programming, and 3D animation. My main website is http://www.geocities.com/labwerx and for design it's http://www.geocities.com/labwerx/design . Next... -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] about the members Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ann arbor /audiofold \ 1:23:02
Will it be all live acts or a mix of DJ's and live crews? -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:44 PM To: Dan Sicko; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] ann arbor /audiofold \ 1:23:02 no. but thank you for asking. we're working on it as we speak. rest assured it will be good. -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:33 PM To: Rob Theakston; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ann arbor /audiofold \ 1:23:02 Hey do you have a calendar somewhere of Audiofold events beyond the 23rd as well? Gotta plan in advance :) -d At 2:51 PM -0500 1/10/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: AUDIOFOLD V1:23:02 a foree into the space between live and electronic, experimental and pop. featuring live performances by -Telefon Tel Aviv (hefty records, Chicago / www.heftyrecords.com) -Bill Van Loo (City Centre Offices / Chrome Decay/ Ypsilanti, Mi.) and -Maersk (Omoa Music / Detroit, Mi.) The Blind Pig 208 S. First St. Ann Arbor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] NSC
Anyone know if NSC is still cutting plates? I've tried going to their website and found it no longer there. If not, who could I go to?
[313] testing
new email addy. testing Outlook setings to make sure I can post. forget you saw this. forget... FORGET!!!
