Re: (313) Hawtin
You consider these things arrogant or out of control? I can't imagine what you think of Zappa or The Beatles and their "antics". How about Pink Floyd. hehehe We haven't had a good flame war in years!! o On Aug 24, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 8/24/06, skept <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done that make you say this? uh, what exactly about his behaviour is humble and quiet? was it the mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting about mixed in? or maybe the make out sessions with vilallobos? i bet its the documentary. thats some humble sh*t right there. maybe a combination of all of the above? when i looked up humble the other day on m-w.com, they had a picture of richie right there! incredible! tomm
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Didn't Davy Jones collaborate with Derek May on Strings of Life?? The locker part was where Derek kept the original masters during the time he was listening to the piano loop. I think thats what its about... ollie www.forwardmusic.com (ya I know its not updated...) Mike Taylor wrote: > we do listen, although we often ask outselves why. > > >From: T.J.Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker > >Date: 17 May 2001 10:00:30 -0700 > > > >Just testing to see if people mainly talk or if some people actually listen > >to the posts!!! > > > >=) > > > >On Thu, 17 May 2001, "tim maughan" wrote: > > > > > > > > heheheheheheheheh..nice;) > > > > > > just wondering how many peeple got that one... > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: > > > > > > > > > Who is Davy Jones Locker ? > > > > > > > > I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered > >there... > > > > > > > > TJ > > > > www.mp3.com/wraith313 > > > > www.outrecords.com > > > > > > > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > > > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >TJ > >www.mp3.com/wraith313 > >www.outrecords.com > > > >PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > >http://www.peoplepc.com > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Global Underground series - Ghetto Tech mixes
You know this is a good topic... I am putting a mix(amongst other goodies) up on my site soon to give everyone a heads up for me and the DEMF. So I record 85min at a get together at my place a few weeks ago. Lotsa good mixes, some scratching, backspins... you know DJ energy that you get when you play. Well I can definately hear mistakes...in my mind they are anyways. None of my friends can hear them but you know...I'm a little afraid to put it up and it get ripped for whatever reason. Not by anyone on this list but I know others who will disect it and then post it to lists and so on and so on. I know it shouldn't matter but I'm trying to get gigs and you know For example I played with a big DJ recently in TO and the questions people asked my about him where just rude. Just a tip... don't ask musicians to comment negatively about other musicians, its awkward and not nice. My only comment to these inquires was "At least you know it was real" and there answers were an unconvincing "Ya, I guess.." So the mix thats gonna magically appear on my website is gonna be one unedited chunk. Whew... ollie www.forwardmusic.com (updated soon) Monday May 28 1:00pm-3:00pm Underground Stage DEMF After parties : none - hopefully this is gonna change soon : ) FC3 Richards wrote: > those are real mixes...i know that the Godfathers "Da Bomb" series isn't > faked... > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:04 AM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [313] Global Underground series - Ghetto Tech mixes > > > > I doubt it. You'd really be surprised at how quickly most ghetto tech dj's > > switch records. I used to go check out Gary Chandler when he used to spin > > at The Warehouse (now Club 2000) and he would drop records at a rate of > > about 1 a minute. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jamil Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/09/2001 11:34:01 AM > > > > To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > > cc: > > Subject: RE: [313] Global Underground series > > > > > > On the subject of 'fake' mixes. are those DJ Assault mixes on the > > submerge site done in pro-tools too? Cause there's quite a lot of tracks > > on > > them > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Live shows...
My rig at DEMF this year: laptop 2 midi controllers 1 control surface endless live possiblilites Check: www.ableton.com ollie www.forwardmusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My last post reminded me of something... > > I've seen a few live performances in the last few years, the most > impressive of which was Ectomorph's at Solar (The Blind Pig) a couple of > years ago. I've noticed, these days, that more than a few cats are bringing > out laptops and 2 or 3 pieces of gear and running their music from it. > People have told me that seeing Plastikman live was a billy bad assed show, > but I've never seen it. I saw Richie run his DE909 show on New Years Eve > 1999/2000 and though it was cool but still expected something better. > > What I'm really looking to get is some feedback: Do you prefer the > Ectomorph/Plastikman type of live show or the Laptop/sampler/keyboard type > of thing and why? > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Industry Advice...
hahaha no I mean: http://www.kudosrecords.co.uk/ ollie M Elliot-Knight wrote: > I think he might mean promos... sending them to magazines/websites/freelance > writers. > > I think > > MEK > > >From: "Max Duley (ARC-art)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: [313] Industry Advice... > >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:52:31 +0100 > > > > > What about Kudos?? > > > >Never heard of them. > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Industry Advice...
What about Kudos?? Ollie Max Duley wrote: > > 1. Make CDR/tape copies of your best stuff. > > 2. Send to likely distributors asking them if they'd be > > interested in a P&D > > deal (Production & Distribution): ie. they press, sell and distribute the > > record for you, in return for a greater cut of the revenue, but not all > > distributors will do this. > > 3. Take it from there... > > Most people I know outside of the US did it this way. It means you lose > total financial control but it also means that > > a) i) You don't have to front up all the cash to pay for cutting, processing > and pressing. > ii) this also means that it's not necessary to wait months for the returns > before doing the next release. They just pay for it and it comes off your > account. > b) you can leave a lot of the work, booking arrangements, dealing with > pressing plants etc to them, leaving you a few more minutes a week to make > music, when you're not at the 9 to 5. > c) the distributors have a little extra incentive to sell the records. > > I don't know about others but my distro, Prime, don't pay less for a P+D > produced record than any other. > > Of course, as Tom rightly says, not every distro will go for a P+D. > > Another problem you face is geography. I know people who run labels in the > US, and they have to deal with more than one distributor. I knew a guy that > dealt with over twenty in the US alone, and I only know a couple of people > who only deal with one. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Its Grim Up North....
http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/04/06/shoplifting.death.02/index.html?s=2
Re: [313] Recloose tonight
And Ken Ishii is spinning(in Toronto) on Spadina, I think its the 3rd floor of the Tropicana lounge. Ollie Forward Music Charles Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/06/2001 10:36:31 AM To: Philip Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>(bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech) Subject: [313] Recloose tonight Recloose is spinning at Una Mas, 422 Adelaide St. W, here in Toronto tonight. $10 at the door. Live webcast at halfbassonline.com There's a Recloose mix cd out in the near future on Belgian label, News, entitled: Jigsaw Music. Haven't heard Matt's style, but I love the way the Random Noise Generation disc, Links in the Chain, & the RNG live set marry up hip-hop, spoken-word samples & techno influences to such devastating effect. Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] the race debate
So this article is fact?? What about this? http://www.msnbc.com/news/548387.asp Is this fact also? ibid. Ollie Forward Music 2001.schedule 04-14 - Machina2 - Toronto - DJ/Live set with Juan Atkins - Kooky Scientist 05-28 - DEMF - DJ/Live - 1pm-3pm Underground stage [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/03/2001 09:32:32 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: (bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech) Subject: [313] the race debate is oh so exciting. y'all should shut up and read this article: http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html and please, post about a million more times about it. we'd like that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info
2k as in 2000?? If thats not huge in Detroit what is?? Ollie [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2001 11:58:07 AM To: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED](bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech) Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info We're really not looking to make this a huge party. No more than 2K, and that's pushing it. Peace, Alex |+-> || "Dennis| || Donohue" | || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| || tmail.com> | || | || 03/08/01 09:19 | || AM | || | |+-> >-| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [313] Drexciya was Venue Info | >-| > >: I was wondering if anyone has info on open venue sites for the DEMF >: weekend. Live acts would be Dopplereffekt, Ultradyne, Tangible aka >Gumshoe, >: and maybe Drexciya (still working on that, so far no luck...). DJ's would If you get Drexciya, I think you'll need a space bigger than 1500 capacity. D _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] I need to vent for a moment...
Why can't someone make some good audio stuff for Linux??? At least I know Linux works for me everyday and never goes down. There has never been a bigger scam than Windows. This is a recurring dream I have: Email From: Steinberg Re: Upgrade to Cubase VST for Linux for free!! But they have suspended all their Linux development for the foreseeable future I'm afraid. Maybe the people at Sound Forge will pick up the ball. Ollie Forward Music "Paul V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/07/2001 10:52:30 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED](bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech) Subject: Re: [313] I need to vent for a moment... YOU ARE NOT ALONE >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: [313] I need to vent for a moment... >Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:17:41 -0500 > >begin; >/rant on; > >DJ's and Producers: Have you ever lost that "perfect" mix or track to >something stoopid? Yes? Lemme tell you what happened last night: > >I was recording my new mix CD on my main PC. It took 4 bad starts to get >into the groove, the 5 time was beautiful. My minimal techno grooves fit >together, I mixed 3 confusing Terrance Dixon tracks in a row perfectly. >Electro tracks were bangin; hell, just for kicks I dropped an old NWA track >into the mix followed by some DJ Unknown. Ghetto Tech, followed by 2 or 3 >house tracks and finishing up with 2 Rob Hood and 2 Jeff Mills tracks. It >was all but perfect. > >I listened to it, noticed that I clipped my signal towards the end (a >little digital distortion), but it was acceptable. Then I went to save it: > >Windows told me I ran out of virtual memory. It couldn't save it at all. > >I tried everything I could, moved whole application directories to my >second drive to free up space. I still couldn't save. > >My main hard drive is 8GB, but only 5 of it is being used for Windows (the >other 3 is for Linux). My workspace HD was just upgraded to 13GB. All of it >is for Windows. If I had more space on my main drive (the one Windows uses >for virtual memory) I could have saved the mix and I would be announcing to >you all that it was completed and soon to be released. > >Here's the worst part about it all: 2 weeks ago I bought 2 new hard drives, >a 13GB for my workspace and a 20GB for the main drive (15GB for Win98 and >5GB for Linux). My old work drive was failing and I managed to dump the >data to the new 13GB drive. I put off installing the new main drive. Had I >not procrastinated, none of this would have happened. > >It's not like this hasn't happened before. I lost 2 demo EP's to HD >failure. I saved MIDI files and audio to the same drives. Gone. > >1 of the drives got beat with a hammer in disgust. > >The whole time I was recording the new mix, my second PC was rendering the >cover for the CD. I ended up posting it to my site anyways. >(www.geocities.com/labwerx), thank you Clever_Shen for the CD's title. > >Ok... I'm done. Feelin much better. > >/rant off; >end; > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] classic track id
"A Little Bit of Jazz" - Prelude - 1982 - Nik Strakker Band.
You can get it on the Frankie Knuckles "Choice" comilation (I think)
I got the original in a little record store in Monterry last year!! For $1.
Ollie
".: Caltrop :." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/05/2001 01:17:36 PM
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Subject: [313] classic track id
ok,
here are clues of the track that i was specifically looking for when i asked
about the chicago disco classics with an electronic edge.
this is going to be funny...
"Just a little bit of ??? tonight
makes you feel alright
Just a little bit rocking to the night
makes you wanna hold it tight
It's the music that you hear
change(?) to the stratosphere
you can fly, you can h...(?)
you can even touch the skyyy..."
the track has moroder-esque electronic drum sounds
and a funky synth bass line accompanied by short chord sounds playing the
16th notes.
thanks
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RE: [313] off topic: domain names
Seems like Stacey Pullen has some strong links to Boliva! Sean Deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/19/2001 04:05:14 PM To: Sean Deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org cc: (bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech) Subject: RE: [313] off topic: domain names ps: go to www.jeffmills.com if you want to get in touch with a design firm in the Netherlands :^) -Original Message- From: Sean Deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] off topic: domain names anyone know how you can check on who owns a specific domain name? I just tried seandeason.com, kennylarkin.com, derrickmay.com, staceypullen.com, and a few other local techno artists, and all of the names are preregistered to someone else. I find it way to much of a coincedence that all of our names have suddenly been bought up (but not by us) :^( seandeason.dot? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] oops......Re:Live music etc.
Yes! I have seen them, they were really good, but they were a band from the gitgo. No a couple of guys that a producer tracks down. Ollie
oops......Re:Live music etc.
To: nancy mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?-black history month (Document link: Oliver Barkovic) I heard Snoop on Leno with a live band and backup singers a couple of weeks ago, it was the worst thing I have ever heard and seen. Out of tune and just weird, guys who look like your typical studio musicians doing guitar solos and bass solos with the whole hair throwing posing thing. Hip hop originated as electronic music, so getting back to the "roots" of hip hop with live musicians won't work. Ollie p.s. eminem and Dr. Dre are laughing all the way to the bank with the money suckers give them when they buy their records.
Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?-black history month
-- Forwarded by Oliver Barkovic/ObTech on 02/14/2001 02:15
PM ---
nancy mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/14/2001 02:00:35 PM
To: Otto Koppius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
cc: (bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech)
Subject: Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?-black history
month
So ...I was at a small gathering last night of
industry people that came to hear about Black Music:
Past , Present & Future with Jimmy Starks & Hal
Jackson speaking.
Of course I would go!!!
who would not want to hear these two HISTORICAL men
speak about this music & their amazing lives.
Some of the things you are talking about were covered
during Q&A at the end.
Something I have always wondered, is why Does detroit
techno ( a black music) always get over looked as
such.
Or maybe I am over looking things, but I dont think I
see Vibe writing about the music or the aritist and
their accomplishments... what about BET, or the black
music departments in record labels, the black radio
stations etc...
I am kind of talking all over the place but, Jimmy
also talked about sampling and how he hates that you
can hear him more now than we he made records with
James brown etc.. and he gets nothing for it, and
people probably have no idea it is his guitar they
sampled.
He also feels very strong about live music, and
everyone was talking about how live instruments are
coming back.
And the electronic music will die out soon.
A&R development people were talking about how they are
soon to have certain R&B/Hip-hop acts go on the road
with live bands instead of a DJ etc... R&B produces
are talking about working with live musicians from now
on and creating more jobs in the community as well as
building albums not hit cookie cutter singles.
I do beleive there is a strong future for electronic
music, I mean think about when you have kids, they
will grow up with this music always listening to
electronic music. Just think what the music they make
will sound like!! When my generation grew up & before
we had many influences, but there was know blueprint
for detroit techno, the black music of the past
present & future.
again talking all over the place.sorry, bare with me..
Hal, talked of how he hates this eminem character
getting all of these awards ... it really seemed to
bother him because it is a black music, well DR> Dre
does make his tracks right,I completely understand
where he is coming from and have even heard the same
comments about techno & how this scene is mostly
white, and the white artist get all of the press,
credit,deals etc.
I dont know where I am going with this , just thought
I would share my night with ya'll.. I have lots more
to say but will shut up as I know someone on here is
going to rip me to shreds as always.(not that I care)
best,
nancy
--- Otto Koppius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gary Girard in response to Mike Taylor:
>
> > A bit of generalising if ever I saw it! Now you're
> getting into race issues (I
> > would assume you're of black origin to make such
> comments). I appreciate melodic
> > tunes as much as anyone, but in a club on a big
> soundsystem the Richie Hawtin
> > style works well.
> >
> > Just remember - white men can funk!
>
> And [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> > > It was sad, because Derrick's set was so much
> better, and so completely over
> > > their head.
> >
> > DAMN THOSE WHITE PEOPLE, THEY JUST DONT GET IT!
> >
> > keeping racial distinctions alive well into the
> 21st century,
>
> Let's keep things in perspective, shall we?
> Mike was making an observation of the behavior of
> the white crowd at the
> DEMF during Derrick May's set and Richie Hawtin's
> set. Those who were
> there can confirm that it was a pretty accurate
> observation (and before
> anyone asks, no, I wasn't there myself, I had to
> l
Weatherall on Groovetech.com right now
What the hell is he playing?
Re: [313] "Tribute" ep
-- Forwarded by Oliver Barkovic/ObTech on 02/08/2001 11:51
AM ---
Oliver Barkovic
02/08/2001 11:39 AM
To: jim proffit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:
Subject: Re: [313] "Tribute" ep (Document link: Oliver Barkovic)
Haha I saw a Jamie Foxx special on BET a while back and I heard the infamous
song!
Very funny, I wonder if he knows...I saw him at a Raptors game last year and I
thought "Should I go up to him and sing it?", "Should I ask him about TP?" but I
settled on singing it out loud to my girlfriend hoping he would hear ; ) I
don't think he did, its quite noisy with 19000 people trying to get in the ACC
(hehehe) but it was funny my girlfriend looked at me like I was (more of) a
dork.
Ollie
jim proffit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/08/2001 11:27:22 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
cc: (bcc: Oliver Barkovic/ObTech)
Subject: Re: [313] "Tribute" ep
Rough edits of what ROB wrote:
>...Terrence Parker's "Tribute" ep on Intangible...
>...the first track - i think it's "Love's Got Me High"...
>...a 12" called "2 Brothers and a DAT" on a label called Jackin' Trax which
includes a track called "Take a cab" which seems to be the same as the track
Assault plays..
>does anyone know what the deal is here?
I noticed that too: the track on that EP is similar, if not the same as Love's
got me high. I suspected that the 2 brothers -record is canadian, had something
to do with Intangible / Parker. When that track became a sort of mini-anthem few
years ago, it seemed like there was almost dozen versions of it. Even Fresh
fruit re-released it with different remixes (with Sterac's slammin techno
mix!!!).
>which is the original? what's the sample? anyone got a spare of the "2
Brothers..."?
Geesh, I can't remember which one came first, the Intangible or the Jackin trax
one... It was around
-95/96. I'll guess the Intangible was first. Don't know the sample, but it
propably originates from some sleeez-soul/R'n'B-act from the 90's.
Proffit
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I'm sure this question has been addressed many times but can someone forward me the contact info for DEMF. Thanks, Ollie
Re: [313] err...
Oh god!!! I think the presenters of this award should be the four horseman of the apocalypse! Hugh G. Blaze wrote: I'm in rather dire need of the sage wisdom of this list and its members on this issue for a project that I'm working on. Is this good or bad for our music and culture? When I say "this" I mean the fact that the mainstream press, the marketing and advertising industries and America in general still remains clueless as to who the artists are that we are interested in, the music that we actually buy (as demonstrated by this poll). Is that a good thing or bad thing? Would it be better if every city in the US had a 5,000 person capacity multi-media and Derick May (or whoever) was in the top 40? Would that kill the spirit of the culture, in your opinion? Please answer - your opinions on this are invaluable to me. Beat me to it Atomly :) Is it just me, or is this every shade of wrong? http://abc.go.com/primetime/ama/techno_home.html -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] was (not was)
A!!! Wheel Me Out!!! What an amazing track!! I have this Ze records compilation from New York about 1983 that has Material featuring Nona Hendryx "Bustin' Out", the afore mentioned Was not was track and a couple of August Darnell and Fonda Rae tracks!! An "inspirational" record of mine that I listen to when I get down about making music. If you see anything on Ze... buy it! Ollie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Ken didn't REMIX it, he MIXED it. Also check out . . . . "Wheel Me Out" if you dig that flava. peace & respect, TP www.TerrenceParker.com 1.248.784.7233 In a message dated 11/20/00 10:20:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << picked up 'out come the freaks' by was (not was) - has a cracking 12 minute remix by ken collier - did he do much remix stuff in this disco/funk style? the original i don't care for too much though - any recommendations for other was (not was) stuff that sounds like this ? cheers simon >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mistress Barbra
Hey all, there is a interview with her and a bunch of other Canadian DJ's in the current issue of Air Canada magazine, so if you fly AC then you can read it. She and Fred Everything are on the cover. Its a less than flattering interview with her, she comes off as incredibly arrogant and she explains in painfully stupid detail the spelling and reason for her name. Yeeech!! I heard her play really crappy stuff here in Hamilton about 6 months ago. It was just bad club techno and trance. Not a fan. Ollie John Shipman wrote: > lol.erroneous is right. i actually saw it in one of those superstar dj > magazines:) > > > -Original Message- > > From: M. Todd Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 12:17 AM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [313] Mistress Barbra > > > > Where did you find this really erroneous piece of information? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: 'Dennis Donohue' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> > > Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 7:58 AM > > Subject: RE: [313] Mistress Barbra > > > > > > >just a side note, i found out it's spelled misStress barbra.as in > > miss > > >stress, kinda cool.. > > > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: Dennis Donohue [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:49 AM > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > > >> Subject: Re: [313] Mistress Barbra > > >> > > >> > > >> Sorry if someone else has answered this by the time you all get > > this > > >> > > >> there is a recent release by Glenn Wilson that would fit that > > descrition > > >> also... perhaps a similar or the same sample I don't own it, but > > >> remember hearing it at the record store... It was a release on a newer > > >> label (definitely not PR). I found the words to distract too much from > > >> the > > >> music > > >> > > >> Dennis > > >> > > >> >From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > > >> >Subject: [313] Mistress Barbra > > >> >Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:16:16 -0800 > > >> > > > >> >I am looking for a track that i was told was done by Mistress Barbra. > > >> >Basically it is a track with a vocal of a female dominatrix talking > > about > > >> >what she is doing to a you and how good it feels and all that other > > dirty > > >> >nasty stuff. you know, the kind of track that would make everyone > > >> horney. > > >> >OK, maybe just Vidal. anyways i want this record and any info on it i > > >> can > > >> >get. i know it had a UK release, but not what label. and i don't > > know > > >> if > > >> >it was released in the states. thanks ahead of time. > > >> >jeff > > >> > > > >> >- > > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > _ > > >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > >> > > >> Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >> http://profiles.msn.com. > > >> > > >> > > >> - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] PS
Hey!!! Picked up the CIM comp album (Reverence err I forget) last night!!! Fantastic!! Isn't he on the list?? If you are on the list great job, I never seen any of your Focus 12"'s around here but email me privately and we can talk. I saw that Tom's name was on the back of the album. Ollie Tim Barr wrote: > It's getting close to Christmas and still no Tom Churchill album. > > Please Tom, u don't want to see a grown man cry do you? > > Love > > Tim > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Derrick May track ID
I remember talking to Derrek Carter and he metioned that he sang on most of his tracks so I would think that he sang the Teddy Pendergrass bit. I think ;) Ollie mee-thod wrote: > > 'You cant hide from yourself' > everywhere u go... there U R! > > ahh wisdom ;) > > mee-thod > plush viper > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
"this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.." It is?? I got that and I can't recall any such banging, smooth latin drum. I think that "Good Girls" sampled the Goodmen and they inturn sampled a Peruvian group. Am I incorrect? Ollie Jason Martin wrote: > >I'll throw in a couple guesses. Carl's "Good Girls" is powered by a huge > >brazilian batacuda, which to some people sounds like a marching band drum > >corps. > > this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.. > > >Another minute, obscure possibility is the flipside of Meco's disco Star > >Wars LP (yes, I bought this when it first came out), which also riffed > >heavily on the marching band sound. > > funnily enough I always thought the b-side of the meco star wars record > sounded like something carl might have done once upon a time.. > > j > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
Jernej Marusic wrote: > Deliverator wrote: > > > greetings, > > > > No, It's def. not spastik. It's not nearly as manic as that. Is has a > > section of rapidly repeating snares, then a pause, then a series of snare > > hits in the pattern of 1-2, 1-2-3-4. > > > > I really need to hardwire my brain for audio out :-) > > > > thanks for the suggestion, > > Might be a track from DJ Rush, Russian roulet (or somehing like that). > > Jernej > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 hz Capricorn??
Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
This thread just proves that what Zappa said was right: "Talking about music is like dancing about architecture." But it may not have been Zappa. http://home.pacifier.com/~ascott/they/tamildaa.htm Ollie darw_n wrote: > > To pose a question, do you have to know Mozart's backgroud to appreciate > his > > music? No. > > Actually, I dissagree, albeit it's not detrimental... > > People like Mozart, and even more notably Wagner, had political views and > ties. The political arena was food for much of their music. In Wagner's > case, he was an enormous anti-semit and German Nationalist, very important > info when considering his works. Also, many of the classical greats were > commisioned to compose for usually a national cause, a celebration of the > nobility, so a lot of work created was done so in the constraints of the > nobility. You can appreciate the work yes, but when the peice was created > as a political tool, then that becomes just as important. With techno, we > have really no real political-social purpose, and we've done so for nearly > 15 years now, very unique in art... > > > for the most part I find that artist's > > don't want you to realize what they see in their music, but want you to > find > > your own interpretation. > > > > Idealy yes, but many artist's rather self-agrandizing and pompus behavior > would signify otherwise... > > > Truth be told most artists find their music to be flawed in some way upon > > retrospect (wishing for the ability to take back the work and complete > it). > > While we the listener will see the music as unflawed (complete). > > hmmm, I like that, definately interesting... > > > > > To add to Darwin's argument, perhaps the experience of Toneshifting is > > momentary. Here are my thoughts. As humans we are engulfed with a high > > level of stimuli daily. To experience toneshifting (low stimuli) is novel > > and for a while we enjoy the experience. But in the end we want to return > > to our normal level of stimuli (which is high). > > Not totally true, although close. In the more extreme cases (such as much > of the art community), there is comfort at the low stimuli level and > seclusion, anything above that becomes a ready seed for social anxiety, thus > they return over and over to minimalist introverted states, thus explaining > the utter militant anti-trance devotion of some to "pure" stripped techno... > > > > > I experienced this for a number of years, wherein all I would listen to > was > > minimal techno. > > When I use the term "minimal", I don't neccessarially limit myself to Dan > Bell and Co. That's why I like to used the term "stripped", the reason > being is that most of the really powerful toneshifts can occur in say that > weird thing called Swedish techno or similar. Basically my rule to > repetition that music within the contraints of about 2 bars, or there about, > and usually no lyrics... > > darw_n > > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." > http://www.mp3.com/darw_n > http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html > http://www.mannequinodd.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zombie Nation?
Whats the track that they are arguing about?? Zombie Nation? Can't say I've heard it. Ollie FRED MCMURRY wrote: > So...does anyone know how these two got started on this bitter and fruitless > rivalry thing? Who said what first? My bets are on Clarke 'cuz he's such a > protagonist but Hawtin isn't a saint either. > > Fred > > >From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'darw_n'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: [313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN > >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:03:31 -0700 > > > >i find that to be amusing...god i love the arrogence of techno > >jeff > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: darw_n [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:09 PM > > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > > Subject:[313] DAVE CLARKE vs. RICHIE HAWTIN > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded: > > > > > > > > i don't know if anyone has posted this yet, or if this is old drama > >but > > > here > > > > goes > > > > > > > > From World Pop.Com > > > > "Two of dance music's leading techno DJs were involved in a fierce > > > > battle behind the turntables at the Creamfields festival yesterday. > > > > Dave Clarke and Richie Hawtin, who for many years have attacked each > > > > other in the press, found themselves coming to blows over Clarke's > > > > remix of Ibiza anthem, Zombie Nation. > > > > > > > > Clarke closed his set by playing his remake of the track twice, > > > > winding up Hawtin who despises the record. Hawtin then approached > > > > Clarke and stuck his middle finger up to his face and a heated > > > > exchange of words ensued. > > > > > > > > Hawtin then took to the turntables, stopped Clarke's remix mid-flow, > > > > picked up the record and threw it across the Bugged Out arena. > > > > Clarke, visibly stunned by Hawtin's behaviour, simply lifted up his > > > > box of records and left the festival" > > > > > > > > - > > > > s t r a y d j > > > > www.713tekno.net > > > > > > > > >_ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with the phrase 'unsubscribe txraves' in the body of > > > > the message. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boston
Hey all, My "real life" is bringing me to Boston for two weeks and I know there is a bunch of you 313ers out there. Any suggestions about clubs or record stores I should hit. And if there are any promoters that want to hear the sound of Forward Music/Steel City let me know and I'll bring some records, small clubs with people who like real music are preferred. Email me in private so as not to clog the list. :) Thanks, Ollie Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Postmodern / Futurismo
that came 60 years later (and Industrial begat Detroit Techno: thereby staying On Topic) Whoa now... lets not forget its "George Clinton meets Kraftwerk in an elevator" not "George Clinton meets Nine Inch Nails in an elevator" Ollie From: Elliot Taub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Postmodern / Futurismo Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:15:43 -0700 I would say there could be no discussion of music and philosophy without mentioning the Futurists; probably the only school of philosophical thought that espoused a musical form. The Futurist Symphonies of cars honking, scraping steel and construction noise had an obvious impact on the "Industrial" music that came 60 years later (and Industrial begat Detroit Techno: thereby staying On Topic) But speaking of contemporary continental philosophers, I'd say Markus Pop probably does a more interesting and successful critique of Deluze's Nomadology in a musical form than (for instance) DJ Spooky ever did. I don't think Pop concerns himself with philosophical baggage in terms of making his music, though: I think his approach is more of a process-oriented one (which in an of itself is a Deluzean manner of creating things like "folds") but not one that's directly referencing any philosophy. Whatever. I want to press a button and hear a beat. e ps: every department has its own focus. The Architecture program I was a part of years ago worked within a feminist philosophical umbrella (though not everybody in the program subscribed to that viewpoint). It sounds odd until you think that a society that could come up with sayings like "a woman's place is in the home" must use sexuality as some kind of determining factor in architectural forms and identities. Phonopsia wrote: > Can anyone think of contemporary artists who use postmodern thought to good > effect in their music today? Skinny Puppy did it well once and you could > make the argument that Stereolab is messing around with French philosophy. > I'm having trouble thinking of many other artists who do it well, or who > actually have any of the philosophical background to understand the concepts > beneath the surface. It's been my experience that a lot of people skip > straight to the recent thought (I tried it and realized I should probably go > back and get the background before plungeing in), and miss a whole lot of > philosophical/psychological/anthropological history in the process. I've > also noticed that at least at the University of Iowa, the philosophy > department seems to avoid postmodern continental thought focusing on > contemporary Anglo-American philosophy, whereas most criticism programs skip > the philosophy and head straight into the newer stuff. Probably a huge > factor... > > Tristan > == > PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 > "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger > > New Album, "Québécois", online now. > > -Original Message- > From: Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> > Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [313] DJ Spooky/Dave Clarke > > >On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > > > >> I've seen him and he was OK - he did this live double-bass thing as well, > >> not a great DJ, but the concept was interesting. Spooky doesn't see > himself > >> as mainstream at all, in fact he gets a lot of flack for his intellectual > >> approach from the NY establishment. He sees it like, why can't an > >> African-American man be an intellectual, a conceptualist, I don't want to > do > >> what the mainstream deems to be 'Black music' like gangsta rap or > whatever. > >> He is big on contemporary French philosophy (more influential than you'd > >> think) and sees himself as intervening in those discourses. > > > >I think this is how he sees himself. But in discussions with him in > >another email forum (dedicated to the idea of "afrofuturism") I've come to > >the conclusion that he's running the DJ equivalent of a "Proudhon scam." > > > >Proudhon was a French philosopher cum activist who, when with philosophers > >would tout his activist credentials, and when with activists would tout > >his philosophy credentials. But Karl Marx peeped that he was actually > >NEITHER--his thoughts weren't that deep, and he simply wasn't doing any > >activist work, just faking it. > > > >I suspect that when he's with DJ's what he's really trying to claim is his > >reading of Marcuse, or Foucault, or even Crusebut when he's with > >intellectuals, he's trying to claim his status as a DJ. But when I've > >tried to talk to him about the intellectual end...his ideas are shallow at > >best. He ends up losing in the long run because in the end his body of > >work won't be worth noting in eithe
RE: [313] The best thing.
Ya Real Player Jukebox at $29.95 is the only product that converts .ra to mp3 what a rip job!! It's because Real Networks has a proprietory format in .ra this makes me so mad ;( -Original Message- From: Holly C MacDonald-Korth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:05 PM To: Oliver Barkovic Subject: Re: [313] The best thing. so what did you use real player for? to convert the ra to mp3? thanks for posting this! i have been waiting for a product like this to come out!
The best thing.
Hello All, I just bought a MyPlay CD MP3 walkman last week it plays MPEGS and regular audio cd's. Yesterday I cut a CD of 17 Mpegs from the www.deephousepage.com like 5 Levans, 2 Latin Rascals, 5 Farley onto a CD as Mp3 files that I converted using Real Player(which I had to buy ; ( but email me in private if you wanna know why I hate real audio) and then popped it in the MyPlay and hit random. It contains 13 hours(!) of mixes. I hit random about 2 hours ago and almost cleaned my house!(you don't know how monumental that is) Anyways it costs $115.00 (no kidding) and you can check it out at: http://www.geocities.com/internetmp3/index.html. I usually don't like to plug stuff but this company should be rewarded for a cool product at a decent price since I think that most electronic things cost about 100% more than they are worth. Ollie
The best thing.
Hello All, I just bought a MyPlay CD MP3 walkman last week it plays MPEGS and regular audio cd's. Yesterday I cut a CD of 17 Mpegs from the www.deephousepage.com like 5 Levans, 2 Latin Rascals, 5 Farley onto a CD as Mp3 files that I converted using Real Player(which I had to buy ; ( but email me in private if you wanna know why I hate real audio) and then popped it in the MyPlay and hit random. It contains 13 hours(!) of mixes. I hit random about 2 hours ago and almost cleaned my house!(you don't know how monumental that is) Anyways it costs $115.00 (no kidding) and you can check it out at: http://www.geocities.com/internetmp3/index.html. I usually don't like to plug stuff but this company should be rewarded for a cool product at a decent price since I think that most electronic things cost about 100% more than they are worth. Ollie
RE: [313] ... worth it's salt..?
One of my favorite track by Juan!!! It has that "At Les" kinda drum sound and the b-line sounds amazing loud. I have played it a million times, one of my faves! Ollie p.s. went to see Thomas Brinkman last night in TO, no funky turntables but his live set was excellent. -Original Message- From: The [Quad] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:49 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] ... worth it's salt..? ... is there any reason to own Juan Atkins' peppering of EON's "Spice"..? Thanks for your thyme, J.E. v.F-B. B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Art et al
Hello, I don't know who mentioned the state sanctioning of Malevich by the Russian propagandists but I think that Constructivism is most directly relatable to Techno. Artists like Malevich, Rodchenko, Lissitzky and Gontcharova(Rodchenko's wife) were multi-media artists and graphic designers who were very minimal and direct in their art. Isn't that what techno is about? Constucting direct music with minimal means. I saw huge exhibits of Rodchenko and Bonnard at the MOMA and Rothko at The Whitney in the same day in NYC 2 years ago!! Ollie Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Good Thread!!
Nice!! Finally a good thread! Rarest record: Dinosaur L 24-7 music the album with "Go Bang" on it and 5 other tracks!! Got it for a buck at a cheesy TO trance(oh oh) store. Most Favorite record: Hard question, I love that "Jazz is the Teacher" by Juan, Moritz and Fehlman on Tesor and also R-Tyme on Fragile and Carls ep on R&S called (I think) 69-Lite Music with Micro-Luvr and My Machines. There are so many... Most Rare Detroit record: Reese on Incognito - The Savage and Beyond - I think its rare, I have the only copy I have seen. Coupla other things: Lounge music thread: Gwen and Holly I think: Esquival and Sun-Ra Arkestra are some of the first musicians to use "synths" and electronic stuff in there music. I think that I read somewhere that Sun-Ra said that electronic instruments are interesting but he uses them to make "new" sounds. I guess he means if he wanted something to sound like a trumpet he would use a trumpet. If you like Carl Craigs jazz stuff you'll love Sun-Ra. But be warned Sun-Ra can be musically very extreme (ie free). So open up your mind. Original acid track thread: Did "Tomorrow Never Knows" come out before or after Revolver?? The 25th annversary Beatles vinyl thing had a instrumental of it that I used to play a few years back, just speed it up and it mixes perfectly into just about anything. (especially Bandulu and some non 4/4 stuff). Oliver Cheeser thread: Hopefully no-ones confusing me with this dude, I played in and around D quite a bit. And finally: I think everyone on this list should read this article: http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/06/13/mail.manners.idg/index.html Bye, Ollie - Original Message - From: Roger John Lesinski Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: [313] Detroit records In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that has been going on in the list, I have a question to all. What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white labels, but I am talking about those that might have never been released, dubplates, etc.. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw
Sorry if that email sounded like an attack, it wasn't :) So does anyone know anything about Steve P?? -Original Message- From: environ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:10 PM To: Oliver Barkovic Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw >>>A must-have for DBX phreaks. Fuck the tens of producers that stole Dan >>>Bell's sound and check out the real deal. Who gave a shit about the RZ1 >>>before him? > >Uhh... everyone in Chicago. A fellow by the name of Steve Poindextor >especially. Yes! Maybe I should have clarified I meant besides Chicago, but I was feeling overzealous as DBX was pumping out of my monitors at the time. I didn't feel the need to mention this as an element of DB's output seems to be a reinterpretation or permutation of some of Chicago's source ideas (most notably SD's "Losing Control") - and anyway, most of his records were produced after a lot of Chicago's most memorable "track" output. Another example is how almost every genre of club music copied at least a part Basic Channel's style even though Basic Channel was reinterpreting and mutating dub. To extend this example, I would have put on a BC record, irrationally posted "who gave a shit about dark 7ths, near-subs and Space Echo before BC?" and gotten "Uhh... Tubby. Scratch." I'd say there is no argument about the worldwide RZ1 explosion happening post-DBX, not post-Poindexter, right? That's not a statement about either producer - it's a statement about the world noticing, digesting and copying a style. Yawn! The point was: go out and check out the new Accelerate double pack, it's dope! Work that. environ * 73 mandeville drive * wayne, NJ 07470-6566 * USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.webspan.net/~environ
RE: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw
>>A must-have for DBX phreaks. Fuck the tens of producers that stole Dan >>Bell's sound and check out the real deal. Who gave a shit about the RZ1 >>before him? Uhh... everyone in Chicago. A fellow by the name of Steve Poindextor especially. Anyone know what Steve is up to? Does anyone know him?? I think he's a genius, an absolute original. Ollie -Original Message- From: environ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) dbx - giving it to ya raw On the decks: ACCELERATE "RARE & UNRELEASED" "High Voltage" "Beep" "Baby Judy" "Squelch" "Schizo" "Raw" "Rubber Ducky" "Losing Control" A must-have for DBX phreaks. Fuck the tens of producers that stole Dan Bell's sound and check out the real deal. Who gave a shit about the RZ1 before him? environ * 73 mandeville drive * wayne, NJ 07470-6566 * USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.webspan.net/~environ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Women in electronic/disco/house/techno/dance music...
Lee Newman from Tricky Disco and a million other things. -Original Message- From: Peter T. Bense [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 4:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chemical Brothers Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Women in electronic/disco/house/techno/dance music... Hi guys. I need a little bit of help here. I am trying to write a paper for my Women's Studies class about women in dance music. I am focusing on K. Hand, but need help from any of you who might be knowledgeable in this area. People I've mentioned so far are: Wendy Carlos, Diana Ross, Martha Wash, First Choice, Donna Summer, Grace Jones, Chaka Kahn. I am also aware of Andrea Parker, Marusha, Kemistry + Storm, the Punisher, DJ Rap, Saskia, Sandra Collins, DJ Irene, etc. I know I am overlooking a lot of people... so... anyone... label manager, producer, vocalist, performing artist... whatever. Women in electronic music... or dance music... or electronic dance music. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, /peter ~>= www.textures.org = 90.5 WUSC-FM = wusc.sc.edu =<~ ~>= 803.544.2519 [tel] = 803.544.2543 [fax] =<~ ~>= box 81129 / columbia, sc / 29225 == ICQ: 3157482 =<~ ~>=<~ ~> There's a strong relationship between music and art. <~ ~> It's not so much music or an art exactly, it's lifestyle." <~ ~>__-Jeff Mills <~ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Throw sample...
'Floor' samples a band called 'Bombers 2' on Prelude. Song title escapes me. I'll track it down tomorrow. Ollie Forward Music -Original Message- From: Otto Koppius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:59 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Throw sample... _tan_ wrote: > > can someone give me the details of the sample for the bassline in throw??? It's from possibly one of the most samples records in house music: First Choice - 'Let No Man Put Asunder' (Salsoul) 'Throw' samples 2 notes and loops them. Cheers, Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) techno rebels/more brilliant than the sun
The house one was good but it was missing some people ie Armando, but the
shitty British speed garage shit was there yeeech ;(
I ordered the Rough Guide to Techno but I didn't get it yet.
Is is out? Has anyone seen it?
am i in it? ;)
Has anyone seen the new Muzik with the 50 most (self)important
(British)people in music.
Ugh!
/* Old person Rant begin */
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Begin
if (age >= 30) then read
You know all this 'ravers' and 'techno raves' and the
all night 'rave'
dance clubs shit
in Toronto is making me wanna puke.
My relatives are asking me what I think about 'raves',
and I say 'I
dunno' and they say
'But I thought...', 'No you though wrong...'
You know I thought I had a tough time generating
interest in my music
back in the day, I can'timagine someone
putting out music now with all
this crap around.
Something has to change.
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}
Thanks,
Ollie
Forward Music
Stay tuned.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:40 AM
To: shannon
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Subject: Re: (313) techno rebels/more brilliant than the sun
Thanks for all the kind words folks ... I can't believe the book is almost
a year old now. (snif) They grow up so fast ...
As for Peter Shapiro and The Wire, I don't what to say, except for the
fact that he edited the recent and particularly dreadful Rough Guide to
Drum n' Bass Music.
So there. :P
-D
Dan Sicko
http://www.reverbmag.com
http://www.techno-rebels.com
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(313) SF tonight
Is there anything cool to do, 313 or deep house related inSF tonight?? Tonight being Tuesday the 14. Thanks Ollie
RE: (313) let there be house!
The "Can you feel it" sample is the Jacksons off a live album from '78 I think. Its the intro to their song 'Can U Feel it' Which has an amazing intro and video, the Jackson about 300ft high sprinkling 'magic powder' on New York hmmm. Ollie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew L. Thompson Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) let there be house! I've been wondering about the origin of this myself. I've heard several people say that it comes from "Can You Feel It" by Mr. Fingers, but a friend of mine has it on the Chicago Trax CD compilation and he swears up and down that it isn't on there. Was there another version that appeared on the original vinyl? Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com - Original Message - From: "Brian Dillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: RE: (313) let there be house! > um, isn't it "can you feel it" rather than "can you party"? > john acquaviva used it to start his (relatively) recent "skills" mix cd > > b.
RE: (313) hawtin remixes
What about Laibach?? Yeech. Ollie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sean deason Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:45 PM To: Brian Dillard Cc: Kent williams; Matt Holland; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) hawtin remixes Hey! Now that I think about it: wasnt there also a Plastikman remix of a White Zombie track!? Brian Dillard wrote: > Or perhaps it was the truly awful south of detroit mix of the shamen's > "ebeneezer goode"? > > -Original Message- > From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:23 PM > To: Matt Holland > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) What's the deal with... > > In Iowa City Saturday, Richie mentioned that he had done one remix > that he was particularly unhappy with, for an artist he declined to name. > Maybe this was the one ;-) > > kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information > intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it > is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, > privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable > law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this > information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please > notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended > recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) Groove review
Hopefully kill it off!! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of matrix Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 9:51 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Groove review Check out the review in The Toronto Star, the paper version comes complete with 4"x6" photo from movie, + the headline which reads "This Movie should do for Rave what Saturday Night Fever did for Disco"! http://www.thestar.com/thestar/editorial/entertainment/2128ENT09_MO-Howe ll28.html Cheers, Gerald
(313) Montreal
Going to La Belle Provence this weekend...anything going on?? Techno/house whatever. Thanks Ollie
RE: (313) track I.D.
I'm singing it right 'Come on, come on whoa whoa whoa whoa' m!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Churchill Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:46 PM To: Ian Dinsmor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) track I.D. ian: > ok, im trying to I.D. this track and its killing me. (if you have Derrick > May's Detroit Technology tape handy, refer to it...its the 2nd to last > track) Its a house track and the chorus goes, " Come into my > world...Close your eyes and you can go, anywhere you want to > be.ill be yo' sandman...hey sandman." It's 'Sandman' by Blueboy. It was originally only released as a very limited white label, but got re-released a year or two back on a UK label - can't quite remember which but 'Ascension' springs to mind for some reason. Shouldn't be impossible to find... Great track - I was listening to it today on a Sneak & Carter mixtape in the car - one of those tracks that sticks in your head for days, I know I'll wake up singing it tomorrow! : tom churchill :: :: headspace recordings :: e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: 07976 898514 :
(313) Oct 1 and Detroit this weekend
Hi all, I was going to go see Francois K, DBX and Kooky Scientist this Friday in Pontiac and I was going to make it into a weekend thing. Can anyone give me any info on the Pontiac party ie location, price etc. possible a URL, and is there anything happening in Detroit on Sat.?? How far is Pontiac from Detroit? Thanks, Ollie
