RE: (313) New Shiver - Dr Break
Cool !! The '83 tracks are my fav ... Erik does it again .. Or did it again .. ;) RAW2019 -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 19:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) New Shiver - Dr Break Scan and sound clips on my site www.acid-house.net -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 13:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Some Hot Tracks new Shiver - Dr Break Just been listening to the new 4 track coming out on 'shiver' Dr break. 4 electro tracks my personal fav being spinnah. Sounding like juan atkins audio tech from 87... watch out... coming soon p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 13:05 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Some Hot Tracks ok what are people listening to at the moment? f**k all. my records are packed away, as is my deck etc. I haven't bought new records for agges. I'm skint. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Gerd - This Touch Is Greater Than Moods
Don't think so .. The label is out of business for some years .. You better check gemm.com I have vulcan princess on vinly which is still genius ! RAW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 14:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Gerd - This Touch Is Greater Than Moods does anyone know if the above Universal Language LP will ever see a proper re-press? I've been listening to this CD for days... just wish I had the vinyl copy. cheers, lrh
RE: (313) Rotating Assembly
Ah well at least you guys saw him dj We only saw the band .. Which was cool .. RAW -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 09:17 To: SUB 072 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Rotating Assembly it wasnt a mix, he just played a full tune and went overboard with the eq´s...It was fun for a while but its not enough for a trademark sound and is turning into a gimmick. -Original Message- From: SUB 072 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 22 juni 2000 0:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Rotating Assembly Damn damn The dj-ing of Theo b4 and after the set was messy, and he should try to touch those eq´s a bit less, but maybe thats just me... Never heard a Theo mix before? Also it was ab it strange to see posters everywhere announcing Theo Parrish and the Rotating Assembly live everywhere and then they played the smaller room upstairs instead of the main room downstairs where Aardvarck Steven de Peven where playing mostly boring records. True! It was a good night. I really enjoyed it. The band was great. I hope my b/w pics are turning out right. SUB The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Movement MPGs Online
Hi all, Anybody found more links to footage of the festival I found these : http://www.theplayground.com/movement/disc1.wmv( 101 min) http://www.theplayground.com/movement/disc2.wmv ( 3 hrs 38 min ) http://www.theplayground.com/movement/rolando.wmv( 2 hrs 20 min ) http://www.theplayground.com/movement/saunderson.wmv ( 1 hr 23 min ) Anybody got some more links ? Thanks ! RAW -Original Message- From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 19:07 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement MPGs Online Props to drew for shooting the Amp Fiddler show, and many other that weekend. He 'captured' the atmosphere of the show very well (excuses for my love of puns). The audio and video turned out very well, so i would advise 2 peek it if U can. The soul is all there! Drew shot about 15 hours worth of festival, thereby tearing down the wall dividing those who were fortunate enough to make it to Movement, and those that couldn't be there to enjoy everything firsthand. Lets all hope he finds additional bandwith to post up some more videos. Thanks again Drew. D.Daugherty 4 president! -jason On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 10:19 AM, Drew Daugherty wrote: I have posted some MPEG files I made from my Movement footage online on soulseek. My id is drewid_mn. I think I put amp fiddler, orlando voorn, and kai alce out. My apologies since my bandwidth is extremely low and the files are huge. I may just do mp3s as an alternative in the future. Jason and I watched some of the amp fiddler footage last weekend when he was up for the Claude Young show. That breakdown on 'I'm Doing Fine' is just mindblowing! One of the high points of the festival for me personally... -drew
(313) Movement 04 / Dimitri from Amsterdam ..
Did anybody heard him ?? Heard he played a wicked set dating back to the time Roxy/High Tech Soul was in full swing .. Any comment would be nice ! Thanks RAW2019
RE: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice
ah well manners .. I don't care .. But really ... is it me or is mike lightning up ? Must have a girlfriend then ... Hehehehe Raw2019 -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:43 To: 'Andrew'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice The fact he mentions manners - man, who the f*ck else in 'dance' music ever talks about manners? Total respect to the man. I'm sure such things are the secret of longevity. Me actually, and unfortunately so few people have them in this world.. -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2004 5:16 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice Seconded - Great to read the words of the man himself. The more I find out about UR, the stranger it seems. We don't make music in search of fame and fortune. We make it when we feel like it. That can be extremely frustrating for artists on the label. Who is the 'we' in this quote? Doesn't this seem circular? It's the artists who make the tunes, and they put them out when they feel like it - no problem, yeah? There's other strange stuff detailing the internal politics of UR, but I don't want to over-analyze my heroes. It's just...interesting to think about how things go down internally in UR. This warms the heart though: If you're an assault DJ, we feel you got skills, manners, respect... The fact he mentions manners - man, who the f*ck else in 'dance' music ever talks about manners? Total respect to the man. I'm sure such things are the secret of longevity. Timeline is so exciting, it strikes me as a real futuristic project, live Hi Tech Soul. The benefit gig on the 31st is sure to be a night to remember. Get that set on Soulseek someone plase!! Andrew -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2004 16:56 To: Alex Bond; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Mike Banks interview - nice http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6275 so, that'll be thanks to the ol' technotourists. Thanks for posting this link to 313, what a great story! I encourage everyone into detroit techno to read this one... Well-researched. So few writers get it right. Mike has always been about giving back to the community and supporting the grass roots efforts of creativity and achievement with the detroit youth, it's good to see him recognized as more than an 'elusive producer' in the (local) press. Nation 2 Nation, -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
(313) Going down !
Well everybody a happy movement Check the dutchies ... My recommendations are Joachim .. Nice techno T!M .. 313 Biological .. Funky Dimitri .. Ah well .. Wait and listen detroit .. Hehehe Leroy .. Same as dimitri .. Must see Legowelt .. More than oke chicago italo The Voorn brothers .. Yep 313 Dame .. House Benny Rodriguez .. Josh wink lover Estroe .. Advent lover Duplex .. Clone represent ! ):
RE: Re: (313) Iridite/Frustrated Funk
Hi all, Any other recommends in this iridite style ? Brings back 'the' memories .. Thx RAW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 16:31 To: Dr. Nutcracker; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: (313) Iridite/Frustrated Funk The new DownLow is excellent! A1 and B1 really drive me crazy. a superb sequence by Rei Loci on the A1 track! Also upcoming on Frustrated Funk is a Partisam Midi record I heard?!?!?!? Greetz, Arne -Original Message- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:22:33 +0100 Subject: Re: (313) Iridite/Frustrated Funk From: Dr. Nutcracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org I second that... Excellent tracks within different dimensions of deep Techno Soul! Anyone bought the new Downlow release by Iridite Productions? At least two essential tracks on it. : ) Dr. Nutcracker
Re: (313) Re: Relics / BC Represses
Could somebody tell me how much copies of that relic compilation are pressed ? I bought it today at clone and was wondering btw those BC are on clear vinly or at least at clone they are txs RAW - Original Message - From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 09:09 Subject: Re: (313) Re: Relics / BC Represses J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: the bc represses are all over the place (err at least until they are sold out, 500 each!), rush hour has them too. Sorry, JT, I have to correct you, only 300 copies each :-) Greetz, Arne
Re: (313) Blaze
- Original Message - From: Jari Tolkkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: Re: (313) Blaze Seasons of love great track !! Lovelee dae (I really like the beloved vocal mix :-)) ...and many more that I can't recall at the moment... i like the bill withers original version better raw
Re: (313) Feedback wanted
- Original Message - From: Ilmar Kerm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: (313) Feedback wanted http://www.laksrecordings.com/butafooria_electro_cut_1_tpn_in_zero_gravity.m p3 i hear UR but also not ... there is a sound/riff that i heard before it hasn't that 1 mood that untitled2 has http://www.laksrecordings.com/Miniviiner_StenGun_Demomix1.mp3 the beats are oke .. typical american swing .. which is nice .. but it's not really my style .. the bees synth I find annoying and goes nowhere .. but that could be meant to be . .but more movement in that sound troughout the track would be nice .. arrangement is nice btw http://www.laksrecordings.com/untitled2.mp3 i find this the best one ... reminds me of ian obrien (also mad mike) .. on the pacific label.. it's warm ... and when the bassline comes it's almost there... 1 line in the track that makes it all fit nice together .. also the buildup is good .. only around 1:39 it skips a little bit what type of gear do you use ? because there is also [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to talk gear if you have time check my site i've added alot of tracks the design ain't that great but you'll see www.fine-tuners.com txs en enjoy RAW
(313) Mooshi - Carl Craig remix ?
Hi list, I heard there is good Carl remix of a track or artist called Mooshi or something. No sign on the label that carl did the remix .. but it should be excellecnt. I remember somebody mentioned it before but I need more info label ? land of origin ? artist ? titel ? thanks ! RAW
Re: (313) Spacek Soundsystem
I heard it's a great remix .. I have to check it as spacek fan btw i'm waiting for JA - Neighbourhood Science but i'm patience ! RAW - Original Message - From: john arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:12 PM Subject: Re: (313) Spacek Soundsystem This guys did a remix for me on Ubiquity. The track is I Can Be w' Amp Fiddler. I heard they played it at the festival. nice. john _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell
- Original Message - From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell He's right...but also wrong. same goes for the internet he's hamering on ... well I think he didn't had a clear vision of the possibilty of things when he gave the interview RAW
Re: (313) Black Holes Love Bass
PS. RAW, I don't recall black holes being anything to do with 'black material', fwiw you could be referring to 'dark matter', but that's a different phenomena to this, albeit related. yes you right .. I mean dark matter both dark matter and black holes have the same weird gravitational pull anyway I don't believe in the black holes theory i think it's just a halo created by the light of a different solarsystem and a planet/star at the far end of our solar system but i cannot back that up it's just a mystery how planets etc stay in their orbit I don't believe it's only gravitational but also based on a natural 'curve' anyway i'm really off topic now but it's very fascinating RAW
Re: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell
a nice interview i only don't really follow him on the FS story allthough i understand his point of view on suffering on getting a collection is has nothing to do with FS from where i'm looking at it. but maybe i don't understand .. RAW - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:47 AM Subject: (313) Theo Parrish Interview and Overload Farewell These are sad times for the internet. The Overload site and forum were a Godsend for me. This interview and preamble help to articulate some of what I will miss: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/archives/interviews/theo_parrish.php Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Black Holes Love Bass
well the funny part about is that there is no full proof of ' black material' so if there is no 'black material' exists than there would be no black holes, if i'm correct (I would like to take a different point of view of a black hole btw instead of looking at it from earth) ah whatever if they exist and hum bass well that's cool I would love if they would humm like the red planets we know ;) ah well RAW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: (313) Black Holes Love Bass http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/10/blackhole.music.reut/index.html Black hole hums deepest note ever detected Wednesday, September 10, 2003 Posted: 1:51 PM EDT (1751 GMT) WASHINGTON, Sept 9 (Reuters) -- Big black holes sing bass. One particularly monstrous black hole has probably been humming B flat for billions of years, but at a pitch no human could hear, let alone sing, astronomers said this week. The intensity of the sound is comparable to human speech, said Andrew Fabian of the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge, England. But the pitch of the sound is about 57 octaves below middle C, roughly the middle of a standard piano keyboard. This is far, far deeper than humans can hear, the researchers said, and they believe it is the deepest note ever detected in the universe. The sound waves are emanating from the Perseus Cluster, a giant clump of galaxies some 250 million light-years from Earth. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion km), the distance light travels in a year. Fabian and his colleagues used NASA's orbiting Chandra X-Ray Observatory to investigate X-rays coming from the cluster's heart. Researchers presumed that a supermassive black hole, with perhaps 2.5 billion times the mass of our sun, lay there, and the activity around the center bolstered this assumption. Black holes are powerful matter-sucking drains in space, and astronomers believe most galaxies, including our own Milky Way, may contain black holes at their centers. Black holes have not been directly observed, because their gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape it. Making waves So researchers have concentrated on what happens around the edges of black holes, just before matter is pulled in. When scientists trained the Chandra observatory on the center of Perseus last year, they saw concentric ripples in the cosmic gas that fills the space between the galaxies in the cluster. We're dealing with enormous scales here, Fabian said in a telephone interview. The size of these ripples is 30,000 light-years. Fabian said the ripples were caused by the rhythmic squeezing and heating of the cosmic gas by the intense gravitational pressure of the jumble of galaxies packed together in the cluster. As the black hole pulls material in, he said, it also creates jets of material shooting out above and below it, and it is these powerful jets that create the pressure that creates the sound waves. To scientists, he said, pressure ripples equate to sound waves. By calculating how far apart the ripples were, and how fast sound might travel there, the team of researchers determined the musical note of the sound. Fabian said the notion of singing black holes might well be extrapolated to other galaxies, but not necessarily to the Milky Way. Chandra has looked at X-ray emissions from the Milky Way's center, and astronomers believe there is a black hole there, but because it is a young, rambunctious galaxy with lots of activity at its heart, this may interfere with any note our black hole might sing, Fabian said.
Re: (313) andres
I have the mahogany release here and it's very nice !! besides the known latin samples, the bassline and beats give the tracks their own feel RAW - Original Message - From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) andres Philip wrote: What do peeps think of the andres album ? from the audio on the submerge site it sounds like the tracks are based on funk samples and it's relatively downtempo, not so much like the house 12s he's released...any ideas / opinions ? do you mean the andrès album on mahogany, or the dj dez album on hypnotech? the mahogany album is a compilation of previously released singles, with one new track. the hypnotech is downtempo like you describe, and sounded quite good to me. i was looking forward to that 12 that came out last month on hypnotech, but found that to be a bit one-dimensional compared to his house releases. this new release on the other hand sounds like it's the same quality as his other releases, so i'm looking forward to it! jurren _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?
oke I checked dirty.com but the Titonton mix wasn't broken at all the gilb'r mix is super btw can't stop playing that one thxs all for the replies got to check the other ones later I got to keep on moving ! ;) RAW - Original Message - From: KiDDy*RaVeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ? You can check the one saved on www.d-i-r-t-y.com He did a set here in Paris in early August. Pretty faithful to his energy. What a craze! :) - KiDD*e* - Original Message - From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:02 AM Subject: Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ? I saw him djing in NYC last year. Wow! So much energy. Cutting it up, scratching back and forth. Some of the best broken beat tunes I've heard. Does anyone know of any Titonton broken beat mixes online?
Re: (313) herbert @ sonar
it's a great set yes !! funk is all over the place And if I recall it right it's recorded in a club at a sonar after party RAW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: (313) herbert @ sonar i just downloaded a set labelled matthew herbert- sonar 2003. i was expecting the big band show, but it turns out to be this incredible dj set. does anyone know if herbert dj'ed at sonar this year? if not, any ideas who this dj might be (it does sound like herbert djing)
Re: (313) The Neptunes Yam Who
Yam Who !! who is he btw ? have you checked the raphael sadique - sky remix he did ? do check !! aaaiiight RAW - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: (313) The Neptunes Yam Who - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) The Neptunes Kraftwerk Chad Hugo is fully into electronic music, he knows his music like nobody, The Neptunes is an equal partnership but most people recognise Pharrell. Chad is into Depeche Mode and used to collect Plus 8 stuff and concocts amazing beats. You can hear him on the new Bryan Zentz album playing sax, too, and Bryan gets props in the Clones credits. Chad is probably my biggest hero outside of techno/house at the moment, him and Pharrell. Pharrell's Frontin' is my single of the year. I just love the chord changes and the spacy arrangement and jazz feel. I wish Carl Craig could remix it. The Clones album is total genius. I knew I'd heard it recently, but didn't realize this was Neptunes-related. Cheerist I need to follow-up on some of those Neptues proddings I keep getting. At any rate, the reason for my post is that the 5th Yam Who record is a re-edit of Frontin' and it sounds bad as hell from the online audio. Should have it in my mits tomorrow for a full review. For those who have heard the other Yam Who's, I can see the drool rolling down your chins already. Act quickly! Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?
Hi list, It's a little bit off topic but I'm looking for good broken beat dj's and heard some producers spin but he they ain't called producers for nothing ;) I heard Domu play and he played a very eclectic set. Nice ! Also I heard Seji and I wasn't that happy Dego can spin but sometimes lacks So my question is : what is the best broken beat dj for you and why ? txs, RAW p.s. anybody heard Somatic ? (the engineer of Dego) I have a 12 by him and he rocks big time (one side electro like it should be , other side 'open' broken beat where Kaidi Tatum meets Jimi hendrix ! )
Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?
- Original Message - From: ed612313 [EMAIL PROTECTED] titonton duvante i haven't heard any dj performances of him , only live perf. anybody got a link ? I know he's capable ! and yes Domu is wicked Michel ! I heard the aquanaut is also not bad .. i've got to check him out too Maybe John Arnold is good too, don't recall if he produces brokenbeats But some friends really dig his stuff ! and they're really into broken beat and not techno I know he's on the list Does he have a mix online ? RAW
Re: (313) new and newish chit
- Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:57 PM Subject: (313) new and newish chit red planet -tobacco ties 7 (rp7-12) I heard it ... don't know what to think of it aztec mystic -aguila 12 (ur-059) orlando tears it up!...this record is definitely two a-sides! Yep Orlando is back his fix mix made me scream ! fix -diligent (ingnitor 001) can't find it on groovetech anybody got alink ? chateau flight -cosmic race (versatile) got to check that one too !! great label ! as one -so far (so good) (ubiquity) I'm curious about this one too ! heard good things about this label !! new world aquarium -heavy metal (peacefrog) Well he's one of my fav. dutch producers together with the rest of the rushhour crew (they keep me amazed ) andres -salvador de bahia (mahogani 004) very anxious to hear this one too ! theo parrish -natural aspirations (sound signature 018) I bought it too and it's the only SS I own besides 'I can't take it' and i agree with you ... to me : it fits in a theo type of set but that's about it but like i said to a lot of ppz about Theo en Moodyman I find : Theo : a great dj and not a super producer Moodyman : a great producer and not as skilled as theo on the decks anyway : txs for reviews ! RAW jt _ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID
hehehehe i found it eddy grant time warp !!! what a track ! RAW - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID gr why can't nobody help me with this you all not into house music ? or am I stupid ? or what ? gr .. but for those who know ! thanks in advance !!! - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID oeps I found the direct links http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sa.mp3 http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sb.mp3 thanks ! - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID Hi, I'm looking for some tracks found on a deephousepage mix by Timmy. I tried to register at deephouse messageboard to ask it there, but they take no new members .. so i'll try it here TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SA.MP3 14:30 : a dark housetrack comes in with vocals 'everybody feeling' TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SB.MP3 21:00 a discotrack with heavy blues powerriffs voice goes 'I love to see it coming' I would like to know any other tracks on the mix but those two I need to have thanks in advance RAW
Re: (313) Dutch parties this weekend
- Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think dj spinna is playing there, from 19.00 till 23.00 http://www.tijnakersloot.nl probably has the info. Wow! Your wrong, Kenny Dope and Jazzanova are playing there this weekend! Now that is what i call a surprise! I heard spinna blew the roof .. or what ever you can blow up in the great outdoors ;) anyway I'm looking forward to this ... hope kenny is in a disco mode not his causell mode .. and for jazzanova .. you never know .. maybe some rare groove, hip hop stuff .. that would be great raw
(313) Matthew Herbert - Sonar club 4-4-2003 barcelona track id
hi list, From 04:30 to 11:30 there is a track with the lidell type of vocals : I like the way you ... ah ah nah nah nah nh nah nah nahh and : till we get to the freaky stuff anybody got any idea ? RAW p.s. still listening to sliced behaviour .. item 2
Re: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
ok txs !!! - Original Message - From: Alex Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313 detroit' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? 33 is grant hill isnt it? also, ive seen these 33 shirts.. its got to be a basketball thing ab -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:02 PM To: '313 detroit' Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? Isiah Thomas was #11. -Original Message- From: Alex Bates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:15 AM To: RAW2019; 313 detroit Subject: RE: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? isiah thomas was #33 for the detroit pistons... maybe its that! ab -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:59 PM To: 313 detroit Subject: (313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ? hi list, i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one i can't find it in google can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? txs RAW btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the festival ) RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003
(313) detroit 33 (sports) tshirts ?
hi list, i've seen these tshirts and would like to have one i can't find it in google can anybody explain what it means : detroit 33 ? txs RAW btw half of detroit was in holland again this week : dwele, recloose, carl en outherzone orchestra .. we own your asses ... hahahahaha (check http://www.omroep.nl/nps/jazz next week for video on demand of the festival ) RAW's music en mixes : www.fine-tuners.com
Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID
gr why can't nobody help me with this you all not into house music ? or am I stupid ? or what ? gr .. but for those who know ! thanks in advance !!! - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID oeps I found the direct links http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sa.mp3 http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sb.mp3 thanks ! - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID Hi, I'm looking for some tracks found on a deephousepage mix by Timmy. I tried to register at deephouse messageboard to ask it there, but they take no new members .. so i'll try it here TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SA.MP3 14:30 : a dark housetrack comes in with vocals 'everybody feeling' TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SB.MP3 21:00 a discotrack with heavy blues powerriffs voice goes 'I love to see it coming' I would like to know any other tracks on the mix but those two I need to have thanks in advance RAW
(313) bug in bassbin drums ?
yep it's me again carl once said that nobody could find where he got the beats from for bug in the bassbin ... i heard outherzone orchestra lasr friday and came to conclusion this could be 'that' drumsound of bug in a bassbin (outherzone orchestra is formed around former sunra orkestra members!) anybody got a clue ? RAW
!Re: (313) bug in bassbin drums ?
no I don't speak in riddles .. grammar may not be right ..but that's different ! I wonder if carl sampled sunra orkestra for the beats on bug in a bassbin. because he won't tell ...and he is very mystical about it .. and dared anybody to found the original so ?? RAW - Original Message - From: Roland van Oorschot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) bug in bassbin drums ? I don't really understand what you are asking but the percussionist of the Outherzone Orchestra is Francisco Mora Catlett (former percussionist of Sun Ra) You speak in riddles, grasshopper. R. At 16:44 13-7-2003, RAW2019 wrote: yep it's me again carl once said that nobody could find where he got the beats from for bug in the bassbin ... i heard outherzone orchestra lasr friday and came to conclusion this could be 'that' drumsound of bug in a bassbin (outherzone orchestra is formed around former sunra orkestra members!) anybody got a clue ? RAW --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) john rocca
They used to carry the 'after midnight' too with a KDJ release btw but you're right, no super labels beside the 'after midnight' releases RAW - Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: (313) john rocca He was used to do something with thai kickboxing or something like that, as soon as he opened the shop he was talking about setting up a studio over in Thailand. Actually i can't be that bothered that he stopped doing Outland records and Spiritual records, their last releases were horrible, of course they did release some really brilliant stuff on it as well. Personally i really like the Basic Bastard records from mr. Voorn and the Rachmad Records stuff. Oh and the Naomi Daniel/In-ner zone one of course. Derrick released 2 records on Spiritual, the Incogdo one which is nice and a less interesting one with the dutch dj Marcello but i forgot the name of that record kj Well Wibo ... mr Hoovers had some troubles ... which I won't discuss here ;) and yes those were exciting times. I wished he had stayed here .. I met him just before he left for thailand We clicked musically but he had to leave He had a studio set up there and asked me to do some enginering for him but i hadn't much experience and cancelled it ... grr I don't know anything about him being a former a boxing trainer he was bold so maybe ... RAW - Original Message - From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RAW2019' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: RE: (313) john rocca Pieter Hoovers... Now THAT'S a name I haven't heard in ages. In the mid nineties Outland was probably the best shop in Amsterdam. That was about the same time that Remy, Marcello and Dimitri ruled the clubs and parties around here. Exciting times. And after that, Hoovers just disappeared. Back to Thailand they say. Wasn't he a boxing-trainer or something? W np: Cinematic Orchestra Man With A Movie Camera = I Remember House when House Music was Soul Music and R'n'B, before House was Disco, be-before House was Disco. Blaze I Remember House = -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 3 juli 2003 20:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) john rocca I don´t know if the outland was owned by dj dimirti.. but dimitri did some really great sets in those days. Cheers, Maarten Outland was owned by Pieter who now has a studio in thailand ! The Amsterdam connection involved Dimitri as well even more that Derrick shows in the interview anyway I also didn't know this 12 was produced by Carl and Derrick The Piano tracks with eq-ing rules have too dig that one up it'll brings back some nice memories for shure RAW
(313) Timmy Regisford Track ID
Hi, I'm looking for some tracks found on a deephousepage mix by Timmy. I tried to register at deephouse messageboard to ask it there, but they take no new members .. so i'll try it here TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SA.MP3 14:30 : a dark housetrack comes in with vocals 'everybody feeling' TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SB.MP3 21:00 a discotrack with heavy blues powerriffs voice goes 'I love to see it coming' I would like to know any other tracks on the mix but those two I need to have thanks in advance RAW
Re: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID
oeps I found the direct links http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sa.mp3 http://jukar.biostat.wisc.edu/TimmyRegisfordKISSFM90sb.mp3 thanks ! - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: (313) Timmy Regisford Track ID Hi, I'm looking for some tracks found on a deephousepage mix by Timmy. I tried to register at deephouse messageboard to ask it there, but they take no new members .. so i'll try it here TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SA.MP3 14:30 : a dark housetrack comes in with vocals 'everybody feeling' TIMMYREGISFORDKISSFM90SB.MP3 21:00 a discotrack with heavy blues powerriffs voice goes 'I love to see it coming' I would like to know any other tracks on the mix but those two I need to have thanks in advance RAW
Re: (313) john rocca
Well Wibo ... mr Hoovers had some troubles ... which I won't discuss here ;) and yes those were exciting times. I wished he had stayed here .. I met him just before he left for thailand We clicked musically but he had to leave He had a studio set up there and asked me to do some enginering for him but i hadn't much experience and cancelled it ... grr I don't know anything about him being a former a boxing trainer he was bold so maybe ... RAW - Original Message - From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RAW2019' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: RE: (313) john rocca Pieter Hoovers... Now THAT'S a name I haven't heard in ages. In the mid nineties Outland was probably the best shop in Amsterdam. That was about the same time that Remy, Marcello and Dimitri ruled the clubs and parties around here. Exciting times. And after that, Hoovers just disappeared. Back to Thailand they say. Wasn't he a boxing-trainer or something? W np: Cinematic Orchestra Man With A Movie Camera = I Remember House when House Music was Soul Music and R'n'B, before House was Disco, be-before House was Disco. Blaze I Remember House = -Original Message- From: RAW2019 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 3 juli 2003 20:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) john rocca I don´t know if the outland was owned by dj dimirti.. but dimitri did some really great sets in those days. Cheers, Maarten Outland was owned by Pieter who now has a studio in thailand ! The Amsterdam connection involved Dimitri as well even more that Derrick shows in the interview anyway I also didn't know this 12 was produced by Carl and Derrick The Piano tracks with eq-ing rules have too dig that one up it'll brings back some nice memories for shure RAW
Re: (313) john rocca
I don´t know if the outland was owned by dj dimirti.. but dimitri did some really great sets in those days. Cheers, Maarten Outland was owned by Pieter who now has a studio in thailand ! The Amsterdam connection involved Dimitri as well even more that Derrick shows in the interview anyway I also didn't know this 12 was produced by Carl and Derrick The Piano tracks with eq-ing rules have too dig that one up it'll brings back some nice memories for shure RAW
Re: (313) New Planet E 12
well you ever heard of rider and lewis with the track called anger ? I always mixup those two ... anyway I heard carl and derrick play it tonight and it rocked twice ! raw - Original Message - From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: (313) New Planet E 12 hello dear listmembers! I already expected some serious email discussions on the new Planet E 12 by Tres Demented (Carl Craig). But obviously I seem to be one of the first Carl Craig addicts that have this record now. Believe me, this is one of the hottest records of the year! Definitely! It will blow away all the dancefloors on earth for the rest of the year. I don't post a complete detailed review because I don't need to. There are only 5 words I have to use: BUY IT AND BOW DOWN! The record says: Thanks to Mr. Laurent Garnier for the edits... so also a big shout to Laurent Garnier. His new 12 on F Communication as Alaska is also hooot! Greetz, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de HEADSPACE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. °°°
Re: (313) DJ BOX Warning
well you better ask for a special treatment and make them let you carry your records on the plane next to you seat for instance RAW out - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Hyperreal. Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: (313) DJ BOX Warning Hi, If you are travelling to Spain, be-aware that lots of record boxes are going missing at the moment, Jim Masters had his stolen a couple of months ago and now Cristian Vogel has had his stolen. My advice is put your record box in a cardboard box and tape it up and send it through like that or convert a big plastic case to hold your 12's, if you just send your box through on it own, there a good chance it will get stolen... Martin Dust
Re: (313) Swedish Techno/ was Every Dog 4
I have heard a lot of Swedish techno/tech-house that is NOT just 2-beat loops but some quite musical material. I'm surprised the Swedes get hated on so much. just a quick note on swedich techno because this topic seems to get folks talking in circles without really getting anywhere: I've noticed Swedish Techno has two different meanings in general conversation: 1. Techno from Sweden - I'm sure nobody will argue that some of this is quite varied, musical, interesting, etc, etc.. 2. A Techno Style characterized by the minimal clubby compositions and compressed drum sounds for maximum loudness:) This stuff got a lot of exposure from Swedish Labels/Producers in the late 90's ala Adam Beyer/ Drum Code, etc.. This style is not too varied, and over the last few years has become even more formulaic that it was in the beginning - hence the disinterest from some of the 313 community. When referring to Swedish Techno in this sense- it may or may not actually be coming from Sweden, and by no means represents all of the techno coming out of Sweden- I find the second definition more commonly used than the first, but the context in which it is used usually clarifies the intended definition quite easily. I'm guessing this is pretty obvious to most, but in the world of email groups- continuity of semantics helps keep what little order we have from becoming total chaos.. p well def number 2 313 is famous for their overreacting in a troll allert :)
Re: (313) More great rumors I heard
that was last year ... - Original Message - From: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: (313) More great rumors I heard Mike Banks is going be doing a live set of Motown Karaoke favorites Richie Hawtin will be doing a tag set with David Lee Roth. Dale Lawrence will be riding a donkey and wearing a sombrero travelling Hart Plaza as Senor Hernandez, Mercenary at Large. Flat autographs: $5, Everything else: $10 Carl Craig hates you all. Pole, everyone on Kompakt, Bea Arthur, Sam Valenti IV, Derek Plaslaiko, Telefon Tel Aviv, Sharif and Vin Diesel will be battling it out in a 12 man steel cage battle royale. Jeff Mills is secretly Emmanuel Lewis. Matt MacQueen was Uberbalisubramanian Smith. Theo Parrish is really Kenny Dixon in disguise. The Clock diner on Jefferson will be host to the drum and bass portion of the festival. Guns and Roses will reunite one last time as the final act of the festival. They'll be doing a rocking rendition of Strings of Life. Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen will be on site filming their latest movie: Techno Rave Boy Madness.
Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test
well one thing is for sure bitching about it ...works ... :D txs tristan also I heard that there is a new carl craig track flooting around on cd'r anybody heard it yet ?
Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test
could be .. i haven't heard the track i only know somebody played it and I wasn't listening :( I'll check it with the guy who did and this is a nice track yes also featered on the gilles peterson show which was hilarious btw :D - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test - Original Message - From: RAW2019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test I heard that there is a new carl craig track flooting around on cd'r anybody heard it yet ? Could it be this? http://www.bmg.fr/ecards/cesariaevora/angola_uk.html T-minus two weeks from what I hear. CAN'T WAIT! Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
read ian's piece again Underground Artist X doesn't want to make more money for whatever reason because they wouldn't suply according to demand. it has an analogy with Prince who signed a contract in which he gives the rights of his masters to the record company ... and later portraits himself as a slave .. while he was knowning what he signed at the time if you wanne live in your own world fine but don't expect to much of it outside your world and talking about stealing ... the reason why Moodyman can't repress is ..well you know .. ;) .. even if he did a great job Mad'r - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ian' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: RE: (313) artists vs. bootlegging I have to agree. First of all the artist who made record never gets any money from a bootleg, the bootleggers are cashing in on money belonging to first of all the artist and second to the original record label. The bootleggers are getting money which does not belong to them, they are stealing it, it is a theft. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find myself waiting for Otto to chime in here (the man has a doctorate in issues relating to supply and demand after all). But I don't want to put him on the spot. ;) So here's my humble opinion: Unfortunately, this may be the result of fallout from the heavyhanded tactics of the record industry. Let me try to clarify. Underground Artist X forms a label and minimizes supply as an artistic statement or business decision (whichever, does not matter). Greedy Fan Y decides to cash in on higher demand by bootlegging. Greedy Fan Y is breaking the law. Y could have asked for licensing rights and given a cut back to artist X. But artist X will not do business with Y, in part because of a complete mistrust fostered by the record industry's history of ripping off artists. This is the pure (albeit ugly) nature of free markets, no? Survival of the opportunist? I am NOT condoning bootlegging. The piece that's missing is the free flow of information from the willing buyer to the copyright owner. This is what a lot of artists are trying to figure out lately. Of course I am not taking into account the economics of vinyl production and single copy distribution. Final thoughts: If that pre-order deepchord CD was available from their site, I'd order now. I am about to own a legit copy of Beltran's 10 Days of Blue after waiting 6 years to hear it. -- im -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
to me it's like ... i'm sitting here ... and I ain't moving principle ... and yes you have some points but also the label should be thankfull that ppl buy their records it takes two to tango ... to say it in dutch het bestaan van de 1 bestaat bij de gratie van de ander and now i'll shut up cause I also feel that it's not right what has been done by bootlegging a new release ... that's wrong period and something has to be done about it - Original Message - From: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging yep thanks to matt and the others who support artist label rights! but reallyDUH!! would add is that even though I think it's a tad irresponsible to release but wait tristan...irresponsible !? labels have ZERO responsiblity, much less any inherent ability ($ wise or business sense) to maximize supply/demand or follow some maximum-efficiency capitalist model bullchit...no offense! it is of no concern to the record collector whether something gets repressed or not, they have no right to expect it, it's all on the label/artist to do it..if they do it the collector should be thankful, period...personally, once something sells out, thats good enough for me, the fact that it might be going for a bit of $ on gemm and there are more people out there that want it...i really don't care. its nice to make more money and reach more people but once you've already succeeded in your original plan there's no strong compulsion to do it all over again just to see how far you can go...know what i mean? i give a personal example since it is something i know in my own experience -- there is one dL record in particular, macho cat garage, which is sold out and our distributor has been pushing us for almost a year now to repress as there are lots of re-orders etc etc. well, someday we will (probably) but in the meantime we are spending our money on new releases and paying our artists. we do try and make money but there is a time and a place and i swear if somebody bootlegged our chit before we even got a chance to execute our own plans (afterall, dammit, we own this music!) then minto and i would get on our brass knuckles and be after some fools!!...we would be soo mad -- there really isnt any rationalizing around how wrong and just illegal bootlegging something that is still clearly the property of another label is...even once a label doesnt own music anymore (usually a 5 year term), at least contact the artist because then it is owned by them again. it's just completely PUNK (and i dont mean rocknroll) to not even make contact and try to do things right, not to mention ILLEGAL (ok some laws are stupid but not laws that protect artists!). no one asks for bootlegging to happen, thats a crazy and selfish way to look at it. who cares if suckers and record junkies are dropping all their $$ on overpriced stuff on gemm that you can still find in shops, or have some email buddy of yours find in one of their local shops..that's part of being a record collector!!...there are loads and loads of records out there in demand but out of print, if it is suddenly excusable to bootleg them just because the labels/artists choose not tothings are gonna get really nasty...thats gonna kill the appeal of even running an underground label and putting out music for a lot of label owners and artists... ultimately a moral (or artistic) issue - and if you don't buy that, it actually, really, it's neither -- when it comes down to it, it's a legal issue!! looking at it as an artistic issue is just being nice. it's much more black white than that. copyrights exist for a reason.. i do think older records/songs, which have no clear legal ownership anymore (dead label and or unreachable artists -- making licensing difficult/impossible), well then thats when bootlegging is strictly a moral/artistic issue. like these automan records -- altho i wonder if automan even tried to license any of the songs?...usually licensing is not even very expensive, it's usually very reasonable and flexible. i do understand how dj's can get pissed when some rare record they play and have made their own suddenly gets bootlegged and everyone has it...but the dj's would be just as frustrated if the record was officially re-released so thats not really a complaint that has much merit.. needless to say, i agree with ur and kdj completely...i see no gray area in this... jt _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
- Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: RE: (313) artists vs. bootlegging and talking about stealing ... the reason why Moodyman can't repress is ..well you know .. ;) .. even if he did a great job No don't know, tell me by the sound of it he told you :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] release 1 and 2 of KDJ could not get repressed because of certain sample rights ..as far as I know or am i wrong ? which is possible ofcorse
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
could get me a link of that ? i've read some interviews where he tells that the troubles with his record company Warner Brothers (same as sony ?) began when he had the publishing rights but wanted the copyrights/masters of his 19 released albums too ... http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:tlje759VvHkC:www.octopusmediaink.com/Th eArtist.html+music+prince+slave+masters+rightshl=enie=UTF-8 the fact that he had 1000+ tracks in his volt and could not release them may be a reason too .. but i haven't found anything about that being the reason for putting slave on his cheak Mad'r - Original Message - From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging Mad'r wrote: it has an analogy with Prince who signed a contract in which he gives the rights of his masters to the record company ... and later portraits himself as a slave .. while he was knowning what he signed at the time the fact prince portraied himself as a slave was not so much because he didn't have control over the masters, but because his recordcompany didn't find it in prince's [read: sony's] best interest to release the amount of music prince wanted to release. prince wanted to release 1 or 2 records a year, sony didn't think that was in their best interest [because 1 record every 2 or 3 years would sell more, and cost less then 2 records a year] thereby limiting prince in his 'right' to exploit his artistic talents. perhaps a bit short sighted in prince's initial trust in his record company, but not an action you would expect from the recordcompany at first, you would expect them to be happy with the amount of material the artist was giving them to sell. jurren _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) UR
as been said 2 differnet scenarios ... when propaganda is needed you could talk about war - Original Message - From: Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: (313) UR While I do not support the rip-off, I think the footer message War when necessary sucks big time. Peace in the good times/War when necessary. What defines necessity. If the US economic situation continues to deteriorate does this necessatate enforcing control through trigger happy kick ass advanced technology toting red-necks - know what I'm sayin'? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: (313) UR Not that I'm one to kick anything off or anything ; ) , but I couldn't help notice this little message here. http://www.undergroundresistance.com _ - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, print or rely on this e-mail. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525. The registered office of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH. All partners in PricewaterhouseCoopers UK Associates A are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com
