[313] monika kruse's disc

2001-05-14 Thread Sanderson Dear

does anyone have the track listing for monika kruse's COMPLEX Y2K cd?


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URL for the exchange

2001-03-19 Thread Sanderson Dear
i'm sure some posted it before but i just plum forgot it... does anyone have 
a URL for The Exchange.


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15% pitch control

2001-02-01 Thread Sanderson Dear
i wonder how much faster "everything" will get in the future, because over 
the last few years (with the exception of a few genres) dance music has been 
getting faster and faster. yes? and i was wondering if the gear 
manufacturers are catering to/feeding this by putting ridiculous pitch 
adjusters on turntables and cd's... natural progression? or more of a 
computer related thing?


what ya'll think.

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walter j - "reborn"

2001-01-24 Thread Sanderson Dear
what happened to DOW? i recently heard a single called "reborn" by walter 
j., when i asked the folks at submerge about it they didn't have anymore in 
stock... anyone know how old it is?


sand.

ps - about the death of vinyl thread. i can't see it dying especially when 
so many people are starting up labels to release material. besides there 
isn't much that can compare to watching the center label on a record rotate 
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Re: [313] Juan Atkins....

2000-12-09 Thread Sanderson Dear

WHAT! he does, where did you hear/read this. i'm slack jawed in surprise.



From: Horiatio Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Juan Atkins
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:15:52 -0800 (PST)

It's really sad to hear that one of my all-time musical heros (and I'm sure
many peoples on this list), Juan Atkins, has a heroin problem. It really
kills me inside thinking about it and I really wish I could help..

HH. :(





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satellite rec. site

2000-11-25 Thread Sanderson Dear

yo,

anyone know what happened to satellite records' web site?


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Re: [313] (even more spam) RE: Discussion

2000-11-21 Thread Sanderson Dear

todd, mate, just chill a bit.


sand.



From: "Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) RE: Discussion
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:27:33 -0800

>From http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/313/
>
> This list was set up by myself to be a forum for the ***discussion*** of
Detroit
> techno artists or artists directly influenced by Detroit techno artists.
> That said, it would be no great coincidence if the list followed the 
same

> progression as techno music has. That is, just as the works of the
original
> Detroiters has provided the framework on which much of techno music has
been
> built upon so too should the stated purpose of the list serve as the 
basis

> for broader discussion.

If you cared to **discuss** the inner workings of your tracks and how they
are 313 related, then post
a link to the track being **discussed** that would be a whole different 
ball

game.  Enticing people with
the track title and a small blurb about the general feel of the track 
(while

I generally believe that dubby chord stabs
have relevance I do not in general see the 313 association).

Since we are all going to get picky today please read K.J's post regarding
313 rules
todd


>
> Christian Bloch
> www.mp3.com/bloch
> Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam)
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>
> >
> >
> > > If the tracks are 313 related then what's the problem?
> >
> > What makes a track 313 related?  I could post a zillion tracks and 
make

> them
> > all 313 related by saying 'oh yeah well I used the same
> > cymbal/sample/bassline/snarehit/effect etc. as
> > Juan/Kevin/Derrick/Alton/T1000 etc. did on   If the track is by a
> artist
> > in the 313, that's
> > different because that's what the list is about.
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Re: [313] Jaguar Video

2000-10-17 Thread Sanderson Dear
"tech r&b"...? what the f*** is that? i might be wrong but aren't most of 
those said artists (destiny's child, missy, timbaland, etc...) closer to the 
2step garage thing than the techno genre..



sand.



From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar Video
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:12:21 +1000


>i don't know, i know we probably don't see eye to eye on this, but this
>music is called underground for a reason, and that's to keep it OFF the
>mainstream channels...  any kind of music that blows up generally loses 
its

>quality.  putting on flameproof suit now...

>someone said on here that mainstream music searches for you, you search 
for

>underground music.  and that's exactly what happened with me, and that's
>exactly what will happen to most true future fans of the underground 
sound.
>most people who will become fans of techno will find it sooner or 
later...

>keeps the quality high, and the fans true.

A big style in Melbourne now is what they call "tech R&B" - artists like
Destiny's Child, Missy Elliott, Kandi. It was overground but now it's
underground, it's become camp and cool. I love that stuff. And it is really
subversive if you listen to it.

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hollywood & music...

2000-09-02 Thread Sanderson Dear

since we're on the topic of hollywood & music... i've got a question.

does anyone know what movie soundtrack did so good that it's spawned this 
"cookie cutter" approach to music scoring now? because for a long while 
record companies didn't bother much with a soundtrack, now it seems like the 
soundtrack can save the film if it goes "belly up" at the box office.


i some how think it was the Hackers soundtrack that got record exec's 
attention.


anyone?


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Re: [313] Re: [[313] jack's house]

2000-08-16 Thread Sanderson Dear
i don't think it's a bootleg, then again i could be wrong. the label that 
version came out on eludes me, but i do know the sleeve was yellowish-brown.


anyone else able to offer any input?

sand.



From: J.P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jim Grindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313@hyperreal.org" 
<313@hyperreal.org>

Subject: [313] Re: [[313] jack's house]
Date: 16 Aug 00 23:15:22 MET DST

The track you're referring to is Mr Fingers - Can You feel it on Trax 
records.
Although it is originally an instrumental track. Later in 1988, there was 
also

a vocal version with Robert Owens and a very rare version with the Martin
Luther King - I have a dream speech on Jack Trax released as Fingers Inc. 
The

version you are talking about is some kind of bootleg (I believe not even
released with prior knowledge of Larry Heard) with the famous "in the
beginning there was Jack" speech.

Or am I wrong here, guys?

Joost


Jim Grindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Believe it or not I don't have THE essential classic chicago house trak
"Jack's house..I am the creator in the begginning their was house one day
while throwing down on his box"
ok with those vocal snippets someone has to be able to tell me the name and
artist
I thought it was Mr.Fingers @ Trax but I have yet to get it right
help

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Re: [313] Passion and Survival

2000-06-21 Thread Sanderson Dear

well put.



From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] Passion and Survival
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:21:01 +0900

If you find a good interview with Juan Atkins I think it will answer your
question. I think even the notes accompanying his recent mix CD addressed
this, if I am not mistaken?

Juan and co never said they invented electronic music per se, but what they
did is transform European influences (and don't forget Kraftwerk cited 
James

Brown as a huge influence) into something very radical and difererent - ie
techno.

What so often happens especially in America is that the media wants to
credit today's electronic music - influenced by and based on techno and
house - to New Order etc, effectively writing out its African American
auteurs and the huge, huge transformative role they played. They turned
electronic music into a culture, recontextualising it and investing it with
a very different meaning. It's late and I have been harangued all day by
promoters, but hopefully that makes sense.

>>So do you think that the techno sound came just from Detroit?
>>And that no kind of electronic music was going on in Europe at the
>>same time??

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maas

2000-06-21 Thread Sanderson Dear
i don't know. i'm more inclined to strap timo maas stuff on the tech-house 
pigeon more than the trance one.


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speaking of timo maas...

2000-06-21 Thread Sanderson Dear
i got "dooms night" by azzido da bass, about 3 wks. ago, and the timo maas 
mix is absolutely SICK!!!


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larkin track(s)...

2000-06-19 Thread Sanderson Dear

anyone know how many singles were released from kenny's "metaphor" album?
i know of just "loop" and "catatonic".

did he ever release anything on his own imprint?

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the persisting question...

2000-06-19 Thread Sanderson Dear
i'm not about to get into some dissin' conversation with u, but the question 
does persist... if you DON'T LIKE TECHNO AND THINK IT'S S "stagnatic, 
retro, riciculous and cheesey, dead,REgressive..."  why did u buy these 
"shitty" records in the first place?


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baby ford...

2000-06-18 Thread Sanderson Dear

a quick question:

i know peter ford has released a track on perlon recently (DON'T HAVE IT IN 
MY GRUBBY HANDS YET) and he did something with Eon that appears on the 
hawtin disc, otherwise what else has he done since his acid house days?




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paging robyn...

2000-06-06 Thread Sanderson Dear

sorry for the spam folks.

robyn, email me. i need your snail mail again.

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Re: [313] WARNING!!! Lost my money...

2000-05-31 Thread Sanderson Dear
sounds like johanna "messed up"  everyone but me. i bought one record from 
her and things went smoothly.



sand.



From: marsel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] WARNING!!! Lost my money...
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:11:08 +0200



just to add my experience
i did a deal for about $350 and received everything
(i'm still wondering if what she sold was mr sherwood-walker's 
collection..)


i got an (her) adress, if anyone needs that one, contact me
but will post it privately only


At 31-5-00 -0500 12:00, you wrote:

i got jacked by johanna thompson also.
if any one has any info on who or where about
he is let me know.
anyone else get jacked???


From: "jim proffit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



A while ago 313 subscriber Johanna Thompson announced that she had a
Detroit-record collection for sale. Featured was a site-add where all her
sale-records were catalogued.

I ordered records from her and I never got them.

I lost 250.00 because of this "deal" (approx. $362.00)... I've sent
numerous e-mails to her without a reply. Now, before I make a final
judgement on this matter, I need assistance from all english subscribers:
Please, contact me privately, so that further actions can be taken to 
sort

this out.

If anyone is thinking about ordering from her, my advice to you is: 
DON'T!!!



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Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-27 Thread Sanderson Dear
i know adrian sherwood did production on the "twitch" album. i'm not sure if 
he was involved in the "land of rape & honey" sessions. all this industrial 
nostalgia will have me sorting through my records to see what i've still got 
to listen to.


what happened to A SPLIT SECOND?

nettwerk put out a comp with a really minimal sort of house, very 
electronic, remix of "addiction" that rocked... and that's saying alot 
because the original was mint. anyway, does anyone know if this ever saw a 
vinyl single release somewhere else on this planet? or was it strictly a 
compilation thing?



From: "e&a rinon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FC3 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Sanderson Dear'" 
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Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 14:43:45 +1000


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From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Saturday, 27 May 2000 11:48
Subject: RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop


>if i remember right Ministry's land of rape and honey album had a
>industrial/hip-hop song on it...it wasn't bad either.
>
sounds like the one Adrian Sherwood did for them!
the intresting thing about them was that the album
"The Mind is A Terrible Thing To Taste"
was recorded in Chicago Trax Studio - "were
it's not just a studio ,it's a way of life" - A J
Another industrial - house conection in Chicago
was that one of the bands on Wax Trax (Die Warzau ?)
had a few records on chicago trax(Samurai Sam,Xipotec etc)


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Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop

2000-05-26 Thread Sanderson Dear

best mutation of hip-hop IMO is "dig it" by skinny puppy.
i confess i've been a fan since the remission ep... if i'm asked i'll 
totally disavow any knowledge of this admission. ;)


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industrial..

2000-05-24 Thread Sanderson Dear
speaking of steven r gilmore. anyone know what he's been up to since wayback 
in the nettwerk 80's days?



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microworld - signals... misprint.

2000-05-17 Thread Sanderson Dear
i remember this was mentioned some time ago, so excuse me asking it again 
because i wasn't paying attention at the time.


but someone on this list said there's a misprint on the time:space transmat 
compilation: the track that's listed as "signals" by microworld. what is the 
name of that track and who does it? i really like it, and would like to get 
a vinyl copy if its available. if anyone can help me out i'd greatly 
appreciate it.


thanx.
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brikha album...

2000-03-31 Thread Sanderson Dear
alan, you've asked the MILLION DOLLAR question mate. i've been wondering 
what's up with transmat, they seem to be dragging their collective feet on 
this on.


andrew, any info?

sand.


From: "O'Cairbre, Alan " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) ArilBrikha album
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:34:05 +

Did Aril Brikha's album on transmat ever come out on vinyl??
If so, does anybody know where I can get it?



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Re: (313) DJs DJs DJs! :)

2000-03-09 Thread Sanderson Dear
i hear ya... the flashbacks are now: really bad house parties in basements. 
people making the "ugliest" requests, thinkin you've got everything ever 
released on the planet in the booth with ya.

OH THE MEMORIES... someone get me a shooter please. ;)

sanderson.


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To: Diana Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "...313 list" 
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Subject: Re: (313) DJs DJs DJs! :)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 10:44:52 -0400

personally, i see it like this: there are
those who dj because they love the music
and want to share it. some have the skills,
some don't but are trying. in the end, they're
sharing the love for the music. then there
are others who buy into the "dj as rock star"
culture and get into DJing, not because they
want to share their love for the music, but
for a variety of *other* reasons. yes, we always
need new djs coming up, but we also have
to have new djs coming up that are djing
for the right reasons. i can remember back
in 1987 when the dj was the last thing anyone
would want to be; you were lower than
the bartender and had drunks screaming at
ya for this and that; could get beaten up
for playing a song people didn't like; there
were no flyers with your name in big letters,
etc, etc, etc; nowadays, though, with
the way "dj culture" has grown, kids don't
know about the history of the dj, haven't
worked their way up and gained experience
via weddings, parties for friends, school,
radio, etc, etc. they go out, buy two technics
1200s and a mixer, buy the top records
they see in the mags, hook up with a
promoter friend, get a booking, and suddenly
they're a "DJ!" now i'm not saying all new djs
are like that (thankfully, there are always some
new people to the scene who have love in their hearts for the
music), but i've personally seen it happen more
and more frequently, and i'm sure many would
agree. check the interviews with terrence
parker, alan oldham, john acquaviva, and others
who've *paid their dues* to be where they are
in today's dj scene (cognition: http://techno.ca/cognition)
and there's a commentary about this on the same
site. yes, we need new djs, but it would be best
for them to take it a bit slower, not suddenly
get obsessed with this "be a DJ! be a DJ!" thing.
personally, i've seen at least 3 or 4 young kids here in
halifax spend tons of $ on tables, mixer and records,
and then a couple of months later they've sold
it all and are very disillusioned. though i don't
know what all of the reasons are for them (personally
ie for each of them), i *do* know from observation
that they get a gig via a promoter friend and then
you never see them booked again. why? well, a)
there are so many kids desperate to "be a dj!!!"
and, at least here in halifax, they're almost beating
each other up and crawling over each other to
get gigs, and b) they just haven't laid the proper
foundation; they think that if they buy the gear
and the records, they are almost *owed* gigs
now, as if that's all there is to it. (an i've had
most of these kids on my local radio show to
try and help them out, see what they're up to,
etc, but, though some are skilled, the majority
are just jumping into the "DJ DJ DJ" thing too
soon; they haven't practiced, have to write
their set down on a piece of paper, have
everything planned to the max, etc, etc
ie the urge to "be a dj" has thrown them
into it, er, they're thrown themselves into
it, so fast and so *too early* that they're
just *not ready*; some of them go on
to get gigs and skills, but most you never
hear from again; if they took the time to
set the stage, they might be still doing it,
but rushing into it thinking they'll be stars
the day after tomorrow, hurts their self
esteem and wastes their $ and effort) but talk to
parker, oldham, acquaviva et al and these
guys (there's girls too, of course) spent many
many nights practicing at home, doing radio,
playing for small parties, etc, etc; they didn't
just suddenly become big dj names that
people know, it took years to get where they
are. but the kids staring out (againn, not *all*
of them, but many) don't understand that it's
not like you wake up one day with the $
to buy the gear and the next day you'll be
on flyers every week. ok, enough rant from
me. AND it wasn't Beck who sang "two turntables
and a microphone", that was a sample from
Mantronix' "Needle To The Groove"!
np terrence dixon--from the far future (dm tresor)
it's out later this month and damn awesome. i'll
have it online in full in RA soon.

Diana Potts wrote:

>   well its informative-to some thirty something yuppie in the burbs who 
has
> no clue. But it is kinda entertaining how the writer takes on this 
identity
> like they have discovered something, like the lost caveman. I like how 
the

> writer highlighted mostly female djs though ;)
>
> diana
>
> >From: "lil' robbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 313@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (313) latechno
> >Date: Thu, 09

(313) any good mills tracks...

2000-02-15 Thread Sanderson Dear
bought my first jeff mills track a couple of weeks ago. has he done anything 
else released in the vein of "IF"?


cheers.
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(313) skirting detroit...

2000-02-14 Thread Sanderson Dear
if anyone is interested, you can check out one of my mixes at the following 
site:



http://members.xoom.com/mikeacid/


 on my name - sanderson dear

cheers.
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(313) sony and food on the table...

2000-02-07 Thread Sanderson Dear
maybe, but by "f**cking" with the whole "chain of command" (musically 
speaking) bypassing the whole licensing thing, dirk & others like him open 
up the door for some really ugly situations.
and in light of the mp3 fiasco and mixedtapes crackdown, i'm honestly 
surprised to hear and see sony & bmg, like you said, "biting the hand that 
feeds them" namely independent artists and labels.
he eventually might not have a job, just based on the situation he's 
created.


food for thought.
sand.



From: Bailey Paul P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Sanderson Dear'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "'313 list'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:40:09 -

I dont know, I guess the guy might like to keep putting food on the table
and retain his job.

you dont bite the hand that feeds you...

Paul

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED]


what is with the people at sony (ger.), they seem to think they're free and
clear of any liability in this whole UR thing. at least that's the
impression i get after firing off an email to the man responsible for this
whole fiasco.

has anyone else got the same smugness?
curious.

sand.


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(313) what's with [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2000-02-07 Thread Sanderson Dear
what is with the people at sony (ger.), they seem to think they're free and 
clear of any liability in this whole UR thing. at least that's the 
impression i get after firing off an email to the man responsible for this 
whole fiasco.


has anyone else got the same smugness?
curious.

sand.


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(313) 'deepartures in time' - vinyl...

2000-02-05 Thread Sanderson Dear

anyone got news on "deepartures in time" on vinyl?
if this has been posted or asked & answered already. forgive my spam.

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(313) wuz up...

2000-02-04 Thread Sanderson Dear

hey folks,

i've been off the list for a couple of months. so can someone bring me up to 
speed with what's been going on.


sand.
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(313) theorem singles...

1999-09-25 Thread Sanderson Dear
just heard the theorem album for the first time. SWEET. anyone know if there 
are any singles available from it?


sand.

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(313) chill already people...

1999-09-20 Thread Sanderson Dear
let's take a chill pill already. we've discussed the jeff mills pro's and 
con's too many times to mention. let's all leave it at: everyone has their 
opinion. respect it, and move on.


sand.

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(313) vestax vinyl cutter...

1999-09-14 Thread Sanderson Dear
sounds too good to be true. what's the catch? i read on the site below that 
vestax is making their own plates to be used with this machine. does that 
mean, a person can't like go to NSC and buy up some acetates and press them 
him/her self at home?


http://www.sapphires.co.uk/plasa99.htm

the market will dictate if this "new" invention survives, at $4000 british 
pounds, it's a pretty expensive toy.

anyone got anymore info...

sand.

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(313) understand, but...

1999-09-04 Thread Sanderson Dear



ok, i know and understand all that. but my question still isn't answered. 
you're talking about dj's/producers who can do live p.a.'s, but from a 
punters point of view, why would i want to see someone like voiteck, hmc, 
richie hawtin, etc... dj, unless they was using their pressed tracks, 
because then they'd be no different then me. do you see what i'm getting 
at...




From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sanderson Dear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (313) making tracks & dj'ing.
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 01:22:11 +0800

Hey!

You've posed a good question.

This issue often comes up in my line as a journalist.

I will give you a case of how it works.

The reason a lot of reputable local DJs in Melbourne decide to make tracks
is so they can gradually build up a profile overseas where they are
otherwise unknown.

The key word is "gradually" since obviously if they are releasing shit
tracks nothing will happen and it is rare that even one dope track alone
will do the business.

If a record builds up a buzz overseas then promoters are obviously more
interested in capitalising on this and bringing someone from Australia to
their country.

Australians like HMC and Voiteck have broken into the international market
this way and both have recently headed overseas to tour.

Voiteck started his own label, Truck Muzik, then he sent out promos of his
records to various distributors, media, DJs, etc, and built up a vibe.

He got press, so a wider band of people started to know his name.

That has made him a more viable prospect for promoters. It's also easier 
for

them to hype him up when they do tour him.

Had Voiteck just stuck to DJing and live sets in Australia he wouldn't have
gone overseas.

There are lots of DJs but DJs who put out records have a better chance of
getting work on the international circuit. In addition, the local media is
more interested in covering them when they come to town.

C

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>From: "Sanderson Dear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (313) making tracks & dj'ing.
>Date: Sat, Sep 4, 1999, 1:05 PM
>

>i have a question, if anyone can answer this for me i'd greatly 
appreciate

>it.
>
>i'm trying to understand how making a track allows you to go on "tour"
>around the world dj'ing. i can understand if you have a bunch of 
dubplates

>made and a promoter is interested in booking you because you have a
>particular sound no one else has, or you have a live act with a back
>catalogue of material. but why would a promoter want to book a dj after
>he/she has made a track to come and play a party on the other side of the
>planet. what would set he/she aside from a local person.
>
>everyone excuse me if i'm to "dense" to see the answer, but my mind is
>completely boggled from this one.
>
>sand.
>
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(313) making tracks & dj'ing.

1999-09-04 Thread Sanderson Dear
i have a question, if anyone can answer this for me i'd greatly appreciate 
it.


i'm trying to understand how making a track allows you to go on "tour" 
around the world dj'ing. i can understand if you have a bunch of dubplates 
made and a promoter is interested in booking you because you have a 
particular sound no one else has, or you have a live act with a back 
catalogue of material. but why would a promoter want to book a dj after 
he/she has made a track to come and play a party on the other side of the 
planet. what would set he/she aside from a local person.


everyone excuse me if i'm to "dense" to see the answer, but my mind is 
completely boggled from this one.


sand.

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