RE: (313) Discovering Electronic Music
LOVE IT!! -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 13/05/2007 15:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Discovering Electronic Music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w5mLHv0nNYmode=relatedsearch= pretty cool... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM
RE: (313) interesting photo.
There was still nothing there when I was there last summer. Shame really considering how the exhibit was the most visited exhibit in the history of the museum. -Original Message- From: Nick Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2007 14:53 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) interesting photo. Is there anything in the Museum relating to techno at the moment? I was disappointed not to see anything when I was there a couple of years ago. On 09/05/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess that is new(ish) Kent? Can't be so sure any more... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2007 13:55 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) interesting photo. http://www.detroithistorical.org/promo-techno/founders.asp On 5/9/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That pic is about ten years old *IINM* (approx) just judging from the other contexts in which I'm seen it - I think you can get it in Google images if you ask the right question. K
RE: (313) Visuals Crew for DEMF's of years past? (2001-2004ish?)
Hi, I was the video TD for the projections on the pyramid High Tec Soul stage in 2003. We primarily used two live cameras, and on the Sunday we utilized a graphics artist to mix into the feeds. The main company employing us was Delirium Films. The lead directors of the Delirium Films contract for DEMF are Alan Contino and Marco Corolla. You should contact them direct to find out more information about the specific graphics designers we were working with. Best, Jodie -Original Message- From: Arturo Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2007 04:37 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Visuals Crew for DEMF's of years past? (2001-2004ish?) Kind of a random question: I'm wondering if anyone happens to know who was hired to do the visuals around the Heart Plaza bowl for some of the early DEMF's? Memory is a bit hazy as to the specific year but I'd be looking for the production crews that did any of the festivals between 2001-2004. I remember one year in particular where the projections around the Heart Plaza bowl were particularly excellent (anyone remember the images of the chiquita banana lady switching from happy/scary in a stacatto fashion?) and I would love to get in touch with those responsible/see more of their work. Anyway, any help would be great. -Art
(313) Dissertation Research Survey
Hi Everyone, I'm doing my dissertation and I need people who live outside of the Detroit area to complete a market research survey for me. Please hit me back offline if you have a few moments free and wouldn't mind filling in this survey. I can email you the file offline of the 313 site, just need your permission to do so. It should only take a few moments and it would definitely help me out immensely. Advanced thanks for your assistance, Jodie
RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion
Speaking from someone who lives in both countries, I can vouch for how high the British prices are in comparison to the USA. It never ceases to amaze and annoy me how CDs, computers, software programs, etc are priced the same in dollars as they are in pounds, even though the exchange rate should half the price for the British purchasers, the companies still keep the prices high. I was just looking into buying some Apple software, in the USA, the price was $699, but in England the price was £599. CDs are the same price in both countries, $15.99 and £15.99. Outrageous. The British are getting screwed. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 12:14 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion Things are expensive over here though Tom. r Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/12/07, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seriously considering buying some custom-moulded ones because for a couple of hundred quid it is definitely worth it. i got a pair made here for $100 (about 50 pounds), i love them a whole lot. tom
RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion
The computer systems are at an even worse state of pricing... for most brands, the power of a laptop that I can find in the USA isn't even available in the UK, and the price differences are terrible. This happens across all industries tho, even guitar strings are cheaper to buy in the USA. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/12/2007 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Svagr, Jodie Cc: robin; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion ... PCs too, Dell, HP etc are up to the same tricks from what I can see. -Original Message- From: Nik Stoltzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 13:22 To: Svagr, Jodie Cc: robin; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: FW: (313) $tinkworx and Convextion I was just looking into buying some Apple software, in the USA, the price was $699, but in England the price was £599. Isn't that just another reason to hate Apple sales marketing? (running for cover as fast as my legs will take me)
RE: (313) mo DEMF lineup
I was there for that one too It was hard to get a good feel of how incredible a performer Billy really is tho during that show... with only 6-10 of us in the crowd... lol Shamed to say it, but I had more fun playing with the orange x's from cingular. You going to Billy's show at the Buzz March 22nd? He's playing with the Exchange Bureau, and that group is HOT!! I am so wishing I could be there, but alas, no luck, out of town. Jodie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 20:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) mo DEMF lineup i was there. Mr. Wilhite hooked me up with an advanced copy of the 3 chairs albulm right after he played it. fantastic set, wish i could remember most of it. Hard to leave Shake to see them that night but it was worth it. Hopefully won't have that schedulling problem this year. Anthony p.s. remember when Buddy Love sang live with them. So so good. On Sat, March 10, 2007 7:09 pm, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/10/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yowza indeed. Last time I saw them was at that Pontiac fest where there were like 8-10 people. Amazing switch-hitting sets. i would have loved to catch that one. ive seen em twice, once at the festival in 03 and their afterparty at oslo in 05. both were amongst the best sets ive ever seen, the 03 fest set in particular was THE BEST set ive ever seen. totally ridiculously excellent. tom
RE: (313) mo DEMF lineup
Unfortunately I missed Atkins that weekend. I only went down to see Billy and Rick play. At that time I was throwing weekend warehouse raves, so Sat night I was busy, and Sun I was too tired from doing the all-nighter and load-out to stay out for very long at the Techno Fest. I remember seeing one other group, but honestly can't remember who it was. Shame, cos I remember it being amazing. Jodie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 20:27 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mo DEMF lineup sad to say but I won't. I live 5 hrs away. Probably the only out-a-towner there besides my friends. Im sure h'll be doing big things. Did you see Atkins crush it that weekend? That was something else. Anthony On Mon, March 12, 2007 4:23 pm, Svagr, Jodie wrote: I was there for that one too It was hard to get a good feel of how incredible a performer Billy really is tho during that show... with only 6-10 of us in the crowd... lol Shamed to say it, but I had more fun playing with the orange x's from cingular. You going to Billy's show at the Buzz March 22nd? He's playing with the Exchange Bureau, and that group is HOT!! I am so wishing I could be there, but alas, no luck, out of town. Jodie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 20:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) mo DEMF lineup i was there. Mr. Wilhite hooked me up with an advanced copy of the 3 chairs albulm right after he played it. fantastic set, wish i could remember most of it. Hard to leave Shake to see them that night but it was worth it. Hopefully won't have that schedulling problem this year. Anthony p.s. remember when Buddy Love sang live with them. So so good. On Sat, March 10, 2007 7:09 pm, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/10/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yowza indeed. Last time I saw them was at that Pontiac fest where there were like 8-10 people. Amazing switch-hitting sets. i would have loved to catch that one. ive seen em twice, once at the festival in 03 and their afterparty at oslo in 05. both were amongst the best sets ive ever seen, the 03 fest set in particular was THE BEST set ive ever seen. totally ridiculously excellent. tom
RE: (313) mo DEMF lineup
Yeah, Billy's done more records than most vocalists I know, and most all of 'em have been released under weird and random aliases. At last count I think he's released using over 8 different names, and there's a load of releases that don't credit him at all. Billy's a hidden gem to the core. 26 years creating vocals for must be close to 100 tracks. :) -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 20:35 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) mo DEMF lineup On 3/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure h'll be doing big things. ive got something like 8 records with him on them? id say he's been doing big things! http://www.discogs.com/release/65035 http://www.discogs.com/release/479565 http://www.discogs.com/release/787634 (plus the unreleased other half of this double EP) http://www.discogs.com/release/108260 plus uncredited stuff that i cant remember off the top of my head. he's the man. ;) tom
RE: (313) OT: Goa Trance Mailing List
It's even more odd that he doesn't have his stuff insured. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2007 20:36 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT: Goa Trance Mailing List On 3/12/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT has suffered another setback in music production after thieves removed over $150,000 worth of studio equipment. its odd that he doesnt get the message that people dont want him polluting the air with his poisoned sound waves. just stop, dood! tom
RE: (313) What's happening with 'Miranda'?
Mike at Detroit Threads does mail orders on a regular basis, so if your having problems with your local, contact Mike direct and he'll ship em to you. Jodie -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 10/03/2007 03:43 To: Simon Hindle Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) What's happening with 'Miranda'? I was just at Detroit Threads and there were 5 copies for sale in store. I think Tom bought one copy, I am going back there tomorrow if anyone else wants me to pick up copies. They are $17 (plus you'd have to pay shipping). I'm going there at noon, so let me know before then. -Angie DTM On 3/8/07, Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y'know, the forthcoming convextion 2x12 on matrix... I've had this bad boy (or girl) on preorder for ages, and the release date keeps slipping... it seems that a few people on here are probably more in the know on what's happening with this than my record store is, so I wonder if somebody would be able to fill in any blanks? Not angry or anything, I'll wait as long as it takes (on Sunday I finally received some deepchord records about 14 months after I ordered them, they'd been collecting dust at my neighbour's house until they started packing to move!) but if there's any firm info it'd be appreciated! Thanks! Si -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
RE: (313) Claude VonStroke
The name Claude VonStroke actually arose from a night of rambunctious partying. They were having a betting game of who could come up with the most ridiculous or funny DJ name, and Barclay came up with Claude Von Stroke, which after the party everyone started calling him that and it ended up sticking with him. -Original Message- From: Christopher O'Grady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2007 23:45 To: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Claude VonStroke I saw him in Dublin about a few months ago as well and I really enjoyed his set, deep techy and funky. I spent most of the night on the dancefloor. No regrets. Dirtybird 006 Claude Vonstroke - Beware of the bird is a brilliant release. But I am a sucker for that sound anyways, especially the stuff coming out on Audiomatique right now. First I thought he was German and now I find out he is from the burbs of Detroit. But I guess Barclay Crenshaw does not exactly roll off the tongue like Claude Vonstroke. cTp -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:43 PM To: Svagr, Jodie Cc: Placid; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke I looked him up on imdb - he was location manager for Batman Robin or something! There's one song on his CD that is Bukem like drum 'n' bass that I really like. Maybe it's near the end. On 23/02/2007, at 4:37 AM, Svagr, Jodie wrote: He played in Liverpool about a month ago for a night called Aztec. I thought it had an interesting mix of Gettho Tech / Tech House / Techno / and even a bit of Motown and Funk Soul. I thought it sounded like a good mix of Detroit and San Fran influences. For those living in Manchester / Liverpool areas, we're doing a film showcase in the beginning of April of Intellect at The Projection Gallery as part of the Global Fusion electronic music projects. http://FusionLiverpool.x0.com/Films.html For those who don't know about the film, it is brilliantly inspiring, most people I know watch it again and again. No matter if you like Claude Von Strokes music or not, this movie was an ingenious idea on his part. -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2007 16:19 Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke havent liked anything else hes done tho... got to say JSS wrote: listened to a mix/set of his a while back wasn't impressed found it very 'tech-house' and deleted it in no time On 2/22/07, Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the whos afraid of detroit does indeed do some dancefloor damage./. nice track.. dave cronin wrote: he and Dirtybird definitely have a following here in San Francisco with the whole Kontrol scene. in fact i got in a little discussion with some kid at a party who was saying that he was the future of techno, to which i responded (in typical axxhole fogey fashion) you mean tech house? but i do like his sound and who's afraid of detroit is pretty a darn good club track. dunno about best track of 2006, though. --- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered what the vibe is on former Detroiter Claude VonStroke aka Barclay Crenshaw? I know he was involved in Intellect - that doc. His album Beware Of The Bird has been picked up by Ministry Of Sound here. He's also touring. Also some 313 types may like the Spirit Catcher album Night Vision on Ralph Lawson's label - it's the kind of Detroit style tech-house Slam used to do. I don't care at all for the vocal tracks, a bit generic, but tracks like Motown Spring, Roller Coaster, Space Crash, ie the first 3, were very worthwhile.
RE: (313) Claude VonStroke
He played in Liverpool about a month ago for a night called Aztec. I thought it had an interesting mix of Gettho Tech / Tech House / Techno / and even a bit of Motown and Funk Soul. I thought it sounded like a good mix of Detroit and San Fran influences. For those living in Manchester / Liverpool areas, we're doing a film showcase in the beginning of April of Intellect at The Projection Gallery as part of the Global Fusion electronic music projects. http://FusionLiverpool.x0.com/Films.html For those who don't know about the film, it is brilliantly inspiring, most people I know watch it again and again. No matter if you like Claude Von Strokes music or not, this movie was an ingenious idea on his part. -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2007 16:19 Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke havent liked anything else hes done tho... got to say JSS wrote: listened to a mix/set of his a while back wasn't impressed found it very 'tech-house' and deleted it in no time On 2/22/07, Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the whos afraid of detroit does indeed do some dancefloor damage./. nice track.. dave cronin wrote: he and Dirtybird definitely have a following here in San Francisco with the whole Kontrol scene. in fact i got in a little discussion with some kid at a party who was saying that he was the future of techno, to which i responded (in typical axxhole fogey fashion) you mean tech house? but i do like his sound and who's afraid of detroit is pretty a darn good club track. dunno about best track of 2006, though. --- Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wondered what the vibe is on former Detroiter Claude VonStroke aka Barclay Crenshaw? I know he was involved in Intellect - that doc. His album Beware Of The Bird has been picked up by Ministry Of Sound here. He's also touring. Also some 313 types may like the Spirit Catcher album Night Vision on Ralph Lawson's label - it's the kind of Detroit style tech-house Slam used to do. I don't care at all for the vocal tracks, a bit generic, but tracks like Motown Spring, Roller Coaster, Space Crash, ie the first 3, were very worthwhile.
RE: (313) Wow...
Hey Nick... The Detroit Electronic Quarterly (DEQ) has just interviewed the guy that started this show, so by mid-may there'll be a rather interesting article for read online about this show. Hope your doing well anyhow. I just got back from Detroit and I've got a load of fun stories and interesting news. We'll have to go for coffee soon cos I know you'll be interested in what I've got in the works. Hope your well anyhow. xx Jodie -Original Message- From: Nick Hardie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 2/19/2007 12:41 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Wow... ...wish TV was still like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM Anyone remember the programme? Nick
(313) Detroiter's?
Hey guys and gals, I'm looking for a few people from this list who may live in the Detroit area. I'm going to be in Detroit from this Friday (feb 9th) for 10 days. It's been nearly 4 months since I've been in the city, currently studying in Liverpool, UK, and I typically use this list as one of my helps to keep updated about the where's and whats of the cities scene. Let me know if you are in the area, as I would love to be able to meet up with some of the Detroiter's on this list. Besides my being curious to meet with the 313 Detroiters, this type of international communication network (ie the 313 list) is the type of thing my University dissertation is about, and I'd be interested to interview a few people from this list who live in the Detroit area. Hit me back off-list if your going to be around, All the best, Jodie
RE: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London
Not a one off... it's an art installation that was installed as part of the new NorthWest Airline terminal's architecture. Sound and moving lights... it's really beautiful and goes on forever. :) -Original Message- From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 06/01/2007 09:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London Is this a one off? http://youtube.com/watch?v=hgxiQIDq6zomode=relatedsearch= pretty amazing for an airport... -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 2:03 a.m. To: Svagr, Jodie; Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London In time for Convextion in London... ;) -Original Message- From: Svagr, Jodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 13:00 To: Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London Hey everyone, got this email through from NorthWest airlines. Travel between Detroit and London is $189 right now. Have to book by the 9th and travel by March 12th tho. Still a good price tho if anyone's planning a trip. The Telegraph Media Group wishes all of its readers, users and clients a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author. Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email systems. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. This e-mail message and any accompanying attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.
RE: (313) Shari Vari - The Scene
That tune is ace!! You watch for a bit and see all these cool cats.. and then pops in the original Napolean Dynamite!! lol -Original Message- From: Luis-Manuel Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 06/01/2007 13:47 Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Shari Vari - The Scene Wow. I've suddenly discovered where my dance moves came from. I always stuck out when I lived in Toronto, and just as much when I was in Chicago... thanks for this clip! this is totally bookmark-worthy. LMGM On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:37 PM, Martin Dust wrote: Is that guitar even plugged in ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM m
(313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London
Hey everyone, got this email through from NorthWest airlines. Travel between Detroit and London is $189 right now. Have to book by the 9th and travel by March 12th tho. Still a good price tho if anyone's planning a trip.
RE: (313) HiTechSoul on Google
There are definite links with Indian Heritage in Detroit. I know Campus Martius Park was named after a famous Indian from that time. Although, I heard that there was disgruntlement from the Indian community at having not been invited to the initial CMP launch festivities. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 03/01/2007 01:44 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) HiTechSoul on Google I tried looking through the archive for posts from Laura, and when I figured out the proper query (messages from 'laura gavoor', between 1996 and 2002) i started getting database errors. Oh well. I was looking forward to re-reading her posts. Much more than I'd ever look forward to re-reading my own! But a simple search on 'laura' and 'burial' didn't turn up anything but referencres to her funeral, so I imagine it was just in her interview that she brought.up the indian burial mounds of Detroit. To be fair, pretty much both Americas and the Caribbean Islands are one giant Indian Burial Grounds, but that is a topic for a different list. Given the area Detroit covers, there's no way there wasn't a burial ground somewhere there... There are some mounds near where I live. I don't believe in supernatural phenomena, but if you walk the trails at dusk and visit them, they're plenty spooky. In a good way. On 1/2/07, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 January 2007 18:47 To: John Sokolowski Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HiTechSoul on Google I had a chance to see the original cut of her interview and that story gave me chills. I was very disappointed to see that they edited it out for the final version. Am I imagining it or did they not show that at the Techno Brings People Together event before DEMF a few years back? If not I think she must've posted something similar here once in the past. That's ringing really loud bells. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Detroit Symphony Orchestra hosting NYE (notC) Techno event with Derrick May?
I think everyone has completely misread the concept of this post. Reread the initial link... http://www.detroitsymphony.com/main.taf?p=5,2,1,192 You may be misunderstanding what the Max M Fischer building is... although the Detroit Symphony Orchestra runs the building, the event has nothing to do with a collaboration of Derrick and the Orchestra. The Max M. Fischer venue has multiple auditoriums and performance venues, as well as capabilities to serve a lot of food, so it often plays host to a range of musical events. Over the summer Amp Fiddler played there at the Concert of Colors, which had nothing to do with classical or orchestra music, but the music was amazing. The ticket price for NYE is $100 for VIP, normal entry is $55. If I wasn't in the UK this NYE, I would def put down $55 for entry. Thats cheap with the UK exchange rate. 30 British pounds, I just paid 20 British pounds to see only Derrick play at Circus on Dec 26th, another 10 would be well worth it to add Carl, Kevin, Theo, and Al. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 28/12/2006 11:11 To: David Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Symphony Orchestra hosting NYC Techno event with Derrick May? These prices look ridiculous but they are not even that expensive for a classical orchestra. Don't forget that wages for classical musicians are high and that a orchestra has a lot of members... I doubt if they are aiming for the regular techno lover as their audience. KJ On 28-dec-2006, at 5:15, David wrote: $100 for a NYE, with an open bar, in a beautiful venue, with great people playing sounds aight to me. Of course, they would get more of we folks if it was cheaper, and wised-up former ravers and techno kids are what provide the juice at the kind of events I would like. 500 grubby, sweaty people who are totally down with the music beats a couple hundred of people out to show off their best threads any day. you are correct, but it would be pretty lame to have 100 people in a two room party with 500-700? capacity... David Armin-Parcells www.daimusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Detroit Symphony Orchestra hosting NYC Techno event with Derrick May?
Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Symphony Orchestra hosting NYC Techno event with Derrick May? Mr. May should, like, make some new tracks before he starts working on an opera. I love the soap opera that kicks off all the time by him NOT making any tracks. m I much prefer the soap opera that occurs on this list when people start flappin about stuff they only half know about. lol
RE: (313) mad mike interview
It's funny that both of you think this is a non-list topic. I think it's bang on topic for the list personally and would love to hear more about this side of things. Better than some of the topics we've had recently, ahem. robin... If we enter this topic, I take my best working keyboard, the one with multimedia options/accessories and little space at bottom to support our tired hands along a big coffee .. ;-) No seriously, it's interesting to discuss about what Detroit peoples are doing in and around Detroit to reach a better way of life, at least to change the most bad things related to the city. I'm really happy to hear that people are taking note in the positive things that are happening, and I def agree Robin, this topic is more interesting than some of the I know more about this topic than you... posts people sometimes get carried away with, Ahem. I prefer topics like this, ones that will transfer new knowledge about the city whilst pairing it with historical references. Happy with it or not, the city has put a lot of efforts to renovate Dowtown, ok, I already hear a lot of peoples coming to say yeah but they destructed the old Motown Building and few other historic ones, they invest only in Downtown, the SuperBall is the only reason, etc... True This actually isnt completely true, even though it may seem so. The mayor has a rather interesting vision about the developments of the city. He's trying to change the entire status quo, the industry, the way people survive and make money, and most importantly, the way people view the city and its history. Its a massive movement he is pushing forward. Yes, he's put a lot of effort into the downtown area at the moment, the reason being, is that for years and years, the business people of downtown would drive their cars into the parking garages, park, walk in the overhead enclosed walkways into their pristine offices, work their 9-5, and then walk back to their cars via the overhead walkways, and then drive back to the suburbs, where they would spend the money they made in Detroit, on goods and restaurants in the suburbs. The mayor wants to change this, so at the 300th anniversary of Detroit, they launched the new park, Campus Martius, which is located up the street a bit from Hart Plaza. The entire purpose of this park is to be the catalyst for the renovations of the city. 7 days a week, 365 days a year, the park implements events that are designed to encourage people to form a community. Music, Movies, Art, Performances, Dancing, everything you could imagine. All of the programming done, as well, encorporates businesses from the outlying areas, trying to show people that lots of things happen in the city, even outside of the downtown area. In addition, the park is available for rentals, weddings, techno fest parties, and fashion shows. The first two years was a very slow time for this park, not a lot of people attended the events, unless it was a special occassion. But through this patience and programming, the park last summer went from having 1-3 bookings per month, to having more than 6-9per week. And as expected, the city is expanding this change outwards. They are redoing the walkways, building additional parks, and encouraging developments by working with the local restaurants and shops, even the very small ones, in order to get people, outsiders of the city, to know and understand how great a place it is to visit. As for the Super Bowl being the only reason, thats not true, many of these renovations had begun prior to the Super Bowl craze. Its just that the Super Bowl kicked into high gear and pushed Detroiter's to finish their renovations as quickly as possible. No wonder, because the city and its citizens made an absolute fortune during that time. Plus it was a chance to show people that Detroiter's really know how to put on great entertainment, and not just via record sales, but via massive arts events with performance art, and anything imaginable really. but in same time this have a dynamic and positive action on the Detoit 'view from visitors' who mostly don't care of the old motown building, who don't come to Detroit since years because it's still the murder capital in their mind. And there is some who care about the SuperBall, some of them being truely techno fans or simply who would love to know more about the city and don't do it just because of the bad reputation. Detroit was in the top ten of murder city in USA past years and today it's not anymore the first one... Last I heard, these numbers of murders are on the rise again. Our favourite president Bush implemented a fabulous new law regarding the schools and most of the music programmes across the country have been removed in favour of pushing the sciences and maths. Historically, Detroit had some of the strongest school music programmes in the country, and this removal has caused a lot of uneasy rest
RE: (313) mad mike interview
Hey Ken, Tyree's contribution to the city is unmistakable. lol I did mention this in the 2nd book I wrote a few hours back, but I completely understand how the length may have caused you and others to miss that. Thanks for pulling him out especially for those readers who prefer short quips. lol The way you write makes it sound as tho you are part of Tyree's efforts..., true?!? If so, keep up the great work! FYI... no actual published books yet, but I do write a lot, so maybe one day.. :) lol From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 18/12/2006 15:18 To: Svagr, Jodie; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview Well, since you ask Jodie, I can suggest that people look at the brilliant work of The Heidelberg Project. http://www.urban75.com/Mag/heidel.html This also neatly dovetails with the idea you mention Jodie, of 'Hi-Tech' being synonymous with both music *and* community work, seeing as we also have the music project below with the same name. Also, someone once explained to me that there was a link, although that escapes me now - still, I know the name is not just used because it's cool. It's also quite appropriate that the contribution of the music to the 'real' project is low-key http://www.discogs.com/artist/Heidelberg+Project -Original Message- From: Svagr, Jodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 21:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview big snip to abridge that 'book', or maybe you really *did* write one!?!?! :). If so, no offence intended. *** If anyone else has any interesting stories of ways people have contributed to the city, I'd love to hear, it may bring a bit of a smile to this dreary rainy holiday season. lol Out for now... Jodie From: Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 17/12/2006 18:53 To: Svagr, Jodie Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview Makes me want to ask a curious question to all of the 313ers, has anyone from this list ever brought any of the high-tec that Mike's talking about to Detroit? Yes, this interview is definitely great, it's done by Slice DVD, correct me if I'm wrong ... http://www.eb-slices.net/ For 'High Tech' correct me again if I'm wrong but : High Tech is defining most of the UR and others Submerge distributions, a way to separate UR from the all techno/electro music available on the market. All Interstellar Fugitives tracks, a lot of Metroplex releases, I would say all tracks not 4/4 techno rythm are 'High Tech'. There is a 'High Tech Funk' logo on a lot of releases, if you own some cd's/vinyls from Submerge, there is a lot of chances that you'll find it somewhere on the packaging. Hope this help, Peace. -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://wildtek.free.fr/ http://wildtek.free.fr/ http://www.myspace.com/wildtek
RE: (313) mad mike interview
Wicked video. Does anyone know which company made this? Its definitely a true to the Banks video. Makes me want to ask a curious question to all of the 313ers, has anyone from this list ever brought any of the high-tec that Mike's talking about to Detroit? From: Jeff Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 17/12/2006 13:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview Wow This one is great. I love the commentary and the imagergy and the tunes. A Must watch!! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 3:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) mad mike interview another great interview from mike b http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8050739842417235420q=slices+UR m
RE: (313) mad mike interview
Hey Dimitri, how've you been? Its been ages since my last email to you via myspace. I've been so busy, but now a few slow days has resulted in time to write endless hyperreal books... lol Thanks for the info about who the makers of the video are, I will follow up. As for the info about the meaning of high tech, its agreed and understood that high tech is associated with the music they create, but in the context of what he was referring to, I believe you have misunderstood his meaning. High tech has been used so often in association with records, that I can understand why you may have understood his statement differently than I. My understanding of it was that he used the term to describe a lifestyle that UR lives by. From my experiences with Mike, and as it said in the video, he's an avid supporter of his neighborhood, and he really makes an effort to work with the kids. Mike typically wont talk music without bringing the conversation to talk of contributing to the neighborhood. He finds the two, music and contribution, completely linked, which is probably why he uses the term high tech to describe both. At least that is my understanding of it. I realise that talk of contributing to the neighborhoods is not necessarily a hyperreal list related topic. I was inspired by the UR video, figured I should respect the ethos Mike lives by and try to bring the conversation to talk of contributing to neighborhoods. Especially since so many people on this list are avid researchers and music enthusiasts of Detroit, I was wondering if anyone has ever found interesting ways to contribute to the cities neighborhoods. A bit of an open-ended question, I know, and if someone asked me the same thing, I'm not sure how would I respond. Speaking of what I have done and am trying to do would contradict my humble beliefs for wanting to contribute. I personally prefer to be an unrecognized soldier in the mix of helping the movement. I have quite a few stories I'd love to share about interesting ways other people have contributed to the city, but since I've already written a book, I figure I'll leave the stories for another time. If anyone else has any interesting stories of ways people have contributed to the city, I'd love to hear, it may bring a bit of a smile to this dreary rainy holiday season. lol Out for now... Jodie From: Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 17/12/2006 18:53 To: Svagr, Jodie Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) mad mike interview Makes me want to ask a curious question to all of the 313ers, has anyone from this list ever brought any of the high-tec that Mike's talking about to Detroit? Yes, this interview is definitely great, it's done by Slice DVD, correct me if I'm wrong ... http://www.eb-slices.net/ For 'High Tech' correct me again if I'm wrong but : High Tech is defining most of the UR and others Submerge distributions, a way to separate UR from the all techno/electro music available on the market. All Interstellar Fugitives tracks, a lot of Metroplex releases, I would say all tracks not 4/4 techno rythm are 'High Tech'. There is a 'High Tech Funk' logo on a lot of releases, if you own some cd's/vinyls from Submerge, there is a lot of chances that you'll find it somewhere on the packaging. Hope this help, Peace. -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://wildtek.free.fr/ http://www.myspace.com/wildtek
RE: (313) Put Your Hands Up For Detroit
That's one thing about Detroit culture that doesn't matter if it's techno or not. If you ever go out in Detroit, almost every person in the place is wearing something that represents their support and love for the city. Detroit hats, bags, shirts, and tattoos. It's part of the culture. -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2006 14:02 To: Robert Taylor; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Put Your Hands Up For Detroit funny you should ask that i have alan oldham-detroit is burning and suburban knight-true to the game on my current playlist and recently boogied to the vision-detroit:one circle, all tracks that namecheck.every time i listen to those tracks i find the namechecking amusing and a little cheesy too detroit techno has namechecked detroit so many times that it now seems as its a sort of clichè, like rappers representin' their city of provenance. i just feel that's it's not very technoie. futuristic, anonymous machine music, but rather a seemingly gratuitous and crass statement in a song that would otherwise have a more subtle and implied one, or none at all. ok, flame away.;) fab. np: b52's - mesopotamia (more namechecking.) What are people's views on it namechecking Detroit?
RE: (313) ron murphy
There are some great articles about Ron in both the 'Techno Rebels' book and the 2nd issue of the 'Detroit Electronic Quarterly (DEQ)' magazine. You can order the DEQ at www.Detroiteq.com J- -Original Message- From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 September 2006 16:20 To: kent williams; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron murphy Do you know what he means by modulates upwards? -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 2:24 a.m. To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) ron murphy Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't there a picture of Ron and some metal mothers upstairs at Submerge? What I always wondered -- does Mike Banks ever sneak in to the museum at night and borrow the 909? Or are all the beatboxes in the museum knackered? A drum machine is a terrible thing to waste, after all... On 9/21/06, Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this cat's work doesn't get exhibit space at some music hall of fame, it'll be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] shame. What a craftsman. Great podcast! Cheers, Lee R. Herrington U STORE IT Technical Support Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-260-2245 This e-mail message and any accompanying attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.
RE: (313) ron murphy
The last I heard about his health was about 6 months back. Banks said he was still poorly and the primary reason he was ill was from stress over money issues because a lot of the newer producers were opting to get their music mastered overseas. It's a shame, because he is a total legend. New producers are always looking for that 'new edge' so much that sometimes they forget about the history and overlook the opportunity to work with someone who has helped shape the sound that they love so much. If I were making records I would only work with him. When I start developing the historical exhibitions I want to do, then I will definitely give Ron a prime spot. J- -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 September 2006 22:35 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron murphy what a legend! whoever said he is practicing more of an art than a science, that is so true...he is such an artist. he will do things that other mastering places would never think to do, perhaps they'd even consider it unwise -- sometimes the results are great tho, sizzling highs and he really makes kicks sound a very unique way imo...we cut 5 records with him, sometimes they had to be re-cut (sometimes more than once) but especially with crusty/less-than-perfectly recorded material, i think he works magic. we haven't done a record with him in awhile but i can't help but imagine that we will again eventually...we left when he was in poor health and not able to put in his all, but hopefully he is doing well again?
RE: (313) Production
Def agreed Skept... What you have said is so true... I have seen in it again and again... some people think that because techno is without words, and that because so many people around the world appreciate it, that everyone should have the same universal views... they also feel that everyones views should be the same... thats why we end up having so many arguments about what is considered good vs bad. Cultural differences are an interesting thing to study. Research into cultural differences shows that, even in cultures that are similar, ie within the USA (pittsburgh and detroit for example), unless you were born and raised in that specific city, there are a lot of hidden cultural differences that cause citizens to react differently. Detroiter's for example have a way of doing business that is unlike what I've seen in any other city. Its difficult to explain, but there's different politics and ethics of business here that I've not seen anywhere else. I always find it interesting when people who are from outside of Detroit place judgements about what is right for the city or the citizens, or the development of the music. No matter how much those people do research into the city, unless they were born here or lived it for a long time, they won't understand the city in the same way we will. Not that we dont want people to keep researching and be interested, as sharing of stories from other cultures helps people understand more, and us Detroiter's love that people from other cultures love ours so much. The whole point is that judging one culture based on the cultural views of another becomes a bit tricky sometimes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 31/08/2006 21:21 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Production music is probably the most universal language there is for the human species. the best music does the same thing, reguardless of who made it or where it comes from. i used to think that music was a universal language. then i had some cheesy LER class where the professor did some clever thing by asking the class if music is a universal language. everyone said yes. then she played some song from some far off place and asked us to write to the emotion that was being conveyed. everyone wrote down something pretty similar. saying it sounded happy or what not. after this the professor told us what it was about... mourning over death or something like that despite the fact that the class thought it was a happy sounding song. so yeah cheesy story but whatever... it fits. where i am going is that music comes out of different cultures across the word. emotion, or better yet methods of expressing emotion are not the same from culture to culture. therefore when expressing emotion through music is it is going to be expressed in each culture's specific manner causing these emotions to not be delivered or interpreted in the same way. so very culturally specific music is definitely not a universal language. maybe music that is a fusion of culturally specific forms of music (techno) can be a universal language. it represents many cultures combined so many more people will interpret it the same. i guess i could have made this post more simple by saying it's just not so black and white to say all music is universal language. techno may be but the traditional music of native *insert country* people is most likely not universally understood.
RE: (313) Um...
Thanks for this Kent... and thanks for all your hard work with admin... keep up the positive work!! Jodie From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 3:22 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Um... I feel completely unqualified to pass judgement on anyone, which is one reason why I don't pretend to have any particular authority on 313. I got the admin job because no one else wanted it. I'm no better than anyone on this list -- I'm an attention seeking, biased, petty, immature person, just like a lot of people here. What makes this list occasionally more than a wankfest is the sense of community that it provides. It is no intrinsically cooler than 30 midwestern housewives who are really into Hummel figurines, or people who trade gay Star Trek fan fiction. We've found that group of people that share our personal obsession. I have tremendous respect for most of the people on this list, and feel like on this one thing, we see eye to eye. What matters about the 313 list is that it is a circle of friends. Friends can disagree about things in a friendly fashion. Friends can give each other crap all the live long day. But for it to work, everyone involved has to maintain a minimum level of respect for everyone else. Over the weekend, this baseline level of mutual respect went out the window, and people were getting ugly. I'm hoping it has died down by now, but I would really like to ask everyone to get back on the happy wagon and stop engaging in hateful personal insults and threats. It just bums me out, frankly, especially when I know the parties involved. And it's just so much noise to the people theoretically under discussion. They have their friends and their work, and they're successful enough in life that they have recognition by a large number of people worldwide. Whatever sh*t has been talked about them on 313 is nothing compared to the ravings of the real losers of the world who have too much free time. The only thing you gain by getting salty with them, or each other in this forum, is membership into the fool's club of their detractors You're just one blob in a demographic lump of folks who want to harsh on their mellow. That's the reason a lot of artists aren't on mailing lists. They're busy, and there are things they'd rather do than slog through our logorrhea. If you want to rip on someone's work, have at it. All I ask is that you figure out a way to be respectful. There's almost never a flame war between people who know each other in real life. Furthermore, it's difficult to judge the real tone and intent of a person simply from e-mail. You're not even seeing them through a glass darkly, you're just seeing the 3rd derivative of the person.
RE: (313) Pot, kettle, black
I know I'm late on the Richie Bashing thread... I just saw something that Tom Cox said that amused me so much I had to repost it... I belive he said this to try and rip on Richie... ...having fun and being a pompous tool. the line between those is very thin. or not. tom hmmm... calling Richie a pompous tool...pot, kettle, black... I find this very amusing.
(313) Looking for rub a dub/blackhole
Hi, I'm looking for Jason from rub a dub/blackhole. Please hit me back off-list. I was told by Martin that you can help me with something. -Jodie
RE: (313) Theo Parrish near-completism
According to Discogs I've got all but a few. Careful with taking Discogs at face value...You may have all the Theo records that discogs lists, but don't believe that because Discgos says you have it all, that thats true. Discogs is user built, so it only includes what users contribute... much of it is inconclusive... the artist I manage has worked on and off with Theo for years, and there are 32 pages of DICOGS albums listed that don't credit him where it should (and thats all I've found so far)... Theo's list is inconclusive as well... as much as Discogs is working towards being the conclusive dictionary of all music, its not there yet... so keep searching... theres still lots of hidden gems yet uncovered. -J From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 8/19/2006 3:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Theo Parrish near-completism On 8/18/06, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So after picking up two more Theo Parrish records tonight I've realised that I've slowly and unwittingly nearly become a Theo completist. the only ones im missing are that mustang record (which im resigned to not owning, i just dont care about it enough to pay what people want for it), that apricot one, and essential selections 1. According to Discogs I've got all but a few. I've passed on a couple of Sound Signatures and I haven't heard the two on Music Is, the one on Apricot/Filth, the second on Track Mode, nor 'Mustang' (which I assume is fairly impossible to obtain). Are any of those essential? The three SS that I've passed on are You Forgot/Dirt Rhodes, Instant Insanity (actually not sure that I've heard this) and Musical Metaphors. Oh, and I can't convince myself to pick up Roots Revisited because I've already got Baby Steps. Am I crazy? DOOD. roots revisited has dan ryan on it which is surely one of theo's top 3 tracks of all time. the mix of walking in the sky on roots is unlistenable, but dan ryan is worth whatever they want for it. its such a killer tune. buy two and play double copies. the second one on trackmode is strange but not essential. musical metaphors is essential. i like you forgot but its not essential. id consider instant insanity as essential if you can get your hands on it for a reasonable price. was that included in this recent repress? to
RE: (313) Marcellus and Billy Lo
Can anyone provide me with more information about Marcellus Pittman? FYI... the Billy Lo listed is not the Billy Lo listed on DISCOGS. This one is based in Detroit and is currently producing under the name Billy Love... in the past 20 years he's written/provided vocals under an additional 6 names. J- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 8/15/2006 9:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) what you know about this tom Sound Signature is proud to offer the first release from a new imprint showcasing the unique talents of Marcellus Pittman: Unirhythm. Marcellus Pittman - Come See / A Mix (Unirhythm) A. Come See http://rad.previewmode.net/blackhole/uni001/A1.mp3 B. A Mix http://rad.previewmode.net/blackhole/uni001/B1.mp3 also new Sound signature Various Artists - Seasons Of My Life / Feedback (Sound Signature) A. The Rotating Assmbly Feat. Billy Lo Seasons Of My Life http://rad.previewmode.net/blackhole/ss029/A.mp3 B. Green Pickles Feat. Billy Lo Marcellus Pittman Feedback http://rad.previewmode.net/blackhole/ss029/C.mp3 Theo Parrish - Children Of The Drum / I Be These Roots (Sound Signature) Brand new release from Theo holding a new version of Children Of The Drum taken from his long lost Apricot Records release from back in 1997. Theo Parrish - Children Of The Drum / I Be These Roots (Sound Signature)
RE: (313) DEMF
Yes, Paxahau is doing the fest again this next year. I've got that info. straight from the source... so... Rest assured, book your tickets, and feel confident knowing that Memorial Day weekend will have lots of amazing electronic music in Hart Plaza... plus everywehre else in the city too. :) From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 15/08/2006 19:05 To: Matt Chester (313) Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DEMF My impression was that they were doing it for two years. I also understood that they broke even, which presumably helps. I guess you can never be too sure about these things though... Having said that, whatever happens it's pretty certain there will be parties and fun to be had that weekend, I'm expecting to be there for sure. On 15 Aug 2006, at 16:50, Matt Chester ((313)) wrote: What's the word on the festival next year do you think? I seem to remember someone saying that the license had been granted for more than just one year this time around, but I don't know if that's just talk. Is it expected to be a last minute thing as usual or were Paxahau granted it for a couple of years? Just curious 'cause I'd definitely like to go next time finally, but can only do so if I plan it well in advance Cheers! Matt Chester 11th Hour Recordings www.11-hour.com www.myspace.com/11thhourrecordings www.myspace.com/mattchester1
RE: (313) DEMF
that is an interesting question Tom... if I remember correctly, you had plenty of heated comments about the line-up from 2006, because it wasn't like the line-up of 2005... apologies if I'm remembering it wrong... apologies as well for this long email... but its gonna take me a bit to describe what I think is an important thing to consider... 2005 was amazing, with amazing music jamms on every stage... and the fact that a number of these artists were able to perform all three days on different stages allowed for them to be able to relax and jamm even more... which is an amazing historical thing to occur... so I understand why people would be upset that 2006 wasn't the same... but I also saw the payment fees for some of these jamms, and I understand why they lost so much money in 2005... putting huge bands, a couple even having 30 performers, on every stage day after day, is not smart for budgetary issues. They lost 250,000 that year. Paxahau built a completely different festival than 2005, but realistically, not many festival promoters would not try to recreate 2005. The music that year cost too much for anyone to be able to sustain it. Paxahau's festival managed to do better than break even, they managed to keep the festival going, and keep it building in the eyes of the world... which we all know, that the instability of the festival from the previous years was making people from the world not go to the festival. Now, its secured for the go-ahead for at least one more year, probably more. Hopefully the future will encourage additions of the bits of the 2005 energy jamms, and combine it with the 2006 Paxahau smart thinking about monetary issues. And hopefully, during the build-up to that time, the world will begin to feel confident in booking their plane tickets to come to this great city. Confidence will encourage growth, growth means more money to put into creating a better and better festival. In my eyes, thats a great thing. Hopefully one day you'll understand and feel the same wa, Tom, and not post a lot of negativity about something that is being created by people who love the city as much as you do. From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 20:35 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DEMF On 8/16/06, Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Paxahau is doing the fest again this next year. I've got that info. straight from the source... so... tom Rest assured, book your tickets, and feel confident knowing that Memorial Day weekend will have lots of amazing electronic music in Hart Plaza... plus everywehre else in the city too. the question is, will it be amazing like 2005 or amazing like 2006? tom
(313) Trying to find info about Members of the House from 1990-1995
Hey everyone, I'm trying to find information, news clippings, old releases, anything relating to the Members of the House. This was a group from 1990-1995, that Mike Banks was the executive producer of, and Jeff Mills was co-producer. There were four front singers, Billy B, Quentin McRae, Randy Paul McKaskill, and Hassan Watkins. I know they toured the UK, but thats about all the info I have. Any assistance would be very helpful. Jodie
RE: (313) UR party, london. Full line up.
Line-up looks great, but could you tell us the date on this?? From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 8/2/2006 1:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR party, london. Full line up. Full line-up information so people don't miss the movie: Room 1 - Dancefloor 21:30 - 22:45: OC DJs. 22:45 - 00:00: Intermission (for movie showing). 00:00 - 00:15: OC DJs. 00:15 - 01:30: MATT CHESTER - LIVE. 01:30 - 03:30: SUBURBAN KNIGHT. 03:30 - ?? ??: DJ CLANDESTINE a.k.a. Buzz Goree. ?? ?? - Close: OC DJs. Room 2 - Exhibition: THE ARTWORK OF UR's ABDUL HAQQ 21:30 - 05:00: ...with music provided by OC DJs. Room 3 - Cinema 22.45 - 00:00: Interstellar Fugitives 2: The Documentary - European Premier.*** 00:00 - 05:00: Exclusive Underground Resistance broadcast featuring further interviews and unseen footage.
(313) July 28-Detroit city center- Free outdoor concert
Come dance outdoors amongst the highrises of Detroit. Join the 2,000+ other people expected to come. Where: Campus Martius Park, Woodward/Michigan Ave. directions at www.campusmartiuspark.org When: Friday July 28th, 5-7pm What: 2 hour techno tag-team Who: Liz Copeland and Clark Warren Why: Cos we love Detroit, and the Power Renovation Movement of the city is starting from the center. How much: Its FREE!! And for those of you who like RockRoll, at 7:30 Dave Mason will be playing, and expect a few historic Detroit rockrollers to be making surprise appearances as well.
RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD
Who was the director of this movie? From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/18/2006 2:25 PM To: Jason Trolian; Dan Bean; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD What the f*** is wrong with criticising a film we've seen? I saw it and am entitled to an opinion. I'm not going to blindly accept whatever I see without criticising it just because of the subject matter - that would be ridiculous. It WAS shoddy - badly put together, badly edited, badly and inconsistently lit. Nothing wrong with pointing this out as it affects one's enjoyment of the film. I don't think the fimmaker knew what he was doing or knew anything about the subject. Just as they were about to explore something interesting (eg the demise of industry in Detroit), it moved onto something else less interesting. The interviews were ineptly handled and the subjects cames across as less articulate than I have seen in other documentaries. There's other things that p***ed me off about the film but that's enough cos otherwise I shall be called the ridiculous word 'hater' Plus points - just seeing our heroes talk about something they clearly love. Er, that's about it. -Original Message- From: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2006 12:05 To: 'Dan Bean'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara
RE: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)
www.myspace.com/Jodie_313 Weekly blog stories and images from Detroit. From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 17/07/2006 23:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT) http://www.myspace.com/djguylafleur 4 original tracks up David Armin-Parcells www.daimusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED]; diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT) www.myspace.com/negativesaucer - Original Message - From: Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT) diana potts wrote: Good day, I just noticed someone had a myspace profile in their email tag. Any other list members up on there? Come on...it's lame and addictive but ya gotta love it. http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://andrew-duke.com/ http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com http://cognitionaudioworks.com/ http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
(313) Congrats for Alex Bond's baby!!
Congrats Alex!! Thats ace. Millie is a beautiful name. Raise her to dance and love the tunes! All the best, Jodie robin wrote: Speaking of new releases... Congratulations to our very own Alex Bond and his partner Rebecca on the birth of their daughter Millie last week (mother and daughter healthy and at home now). :) robin...
RE: (313) Oliver Ho
Ho's still around. He recently played a night called Alcatraz in Liverpool. I didn't go cos I was out of town, but I heard his set was amazing. I think he's still in LA. Last bit of tunes I got through of his was an original CD set from 2 WMCs ago. Def a good CD. It's been an afterparty favourite at my house quite a bit. I'm such a fan, I've even got a Ho T-shirt. lol. From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 7/3/2006 4:30 AM To: /0 Cc: kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin now Jeff Mills What happened to Oliver Ho? I personally prefer his work to Surgeon's... an original. It's hard to get Ho's music, really hard! On 01/07/2006, at 11:23 PM, /0 wrote: surgeon seems a little more into industrial techno and rephlex-ish stuff that mills. surgeon sets sound too clean and precise to me. part of the fun with mills is you can hear that he's going so fast, he's just on the verge of trainwrecking everything. - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin now Jeff Mills I dimly remember people saying Surgeon bit Mills' style, but if I remember correctly, once Jeff started playing Surgeon records, people shut up. If anyone took the time to listen to his music, they were always records in the same general style as Mills, but completely his own thing. And Surgeon has indeed gone on to do amazing things that have nothing to do with 2 beat loop bangers. On 6/30/06, Wes Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's never initially clear, as you say -- only time tells. I remember back in the mid-90s a lot of people came hard downwards on Surgeon for (badger) biting Mills and his style -- some of the more outraged even printed up I Hate Surgeon tees to advertise their dismay at his growing popularity.
(313) RE: philly
Hey everyone, I'm going to be in Philly from Wed-Sun of this week. Let me know if there are any 313ers that want to meet up either during the Sat gig or before. Hit me back privately with a phone number and I'll call ya. All the best, Jodie Liverpool-Detroit From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 6/27/2006 1:24 AM To: /0; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) p909 live, philly, 6-8-6 I was at this show! woo hoo! that's it. If you're in Philly this week- Marco Corolla (sp) is playing Wednesday night at Fluid with Josh Wink. --- /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.p909.com/live/p909_fluid_philly_0600608.mp3 ~200 megs, enjoy! -Joe ps, before you ask, no, there is no recording from the detroit show. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com/
RE: (313) New DEMF Order
In 2003, Carl Craig and The Detroit Experiment played the set that happened just as the sun was setting. Good timing for that, lovely. -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2006 14:43 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New DEMF Order When the Detroit Experiment played at the Newport Jazz Festival, their entire set was before the doors open time on the tickets. Didn't he play during the afternoon the last time he was playing at the festival? On May 17, 2006, at 9:34, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: out with the old, in with the new. from demf.com: MONDAY MAY 29TH MAIN STAGE 7-8:30P Derrick May PYRAMID STAGE 12-3P CARL CRAIG i guess they couldnt put them on at 8am or everyone would have been easily able to see the fix was on. tom -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) DEMF supporters here
Reading all of the annoying negative emails the jaded 313 lister's continue to swamp my inbox has gotten me so annoyed. All the crap about how the line-up would be better if... or how the festival sucks because... I think maybe they should stop sitting behind a computer venting out their life frustrations, and maybe try to learn how to become a positive influence within the music again. Complaining all the time makes the music struggle to progress and die. All that negativity with no positive points. 313ers obviously started listening to the music because they found something in it that they loved. But then somehow along the way, the constant trying to prove they knew more than the other, turned them into being so judgemental that I'm surprised they can find enjoyment in the music anymore at all. What a sad life to live!! I love the music, and I love Detroit, and I love the fact that during the 3 days, the most amazing music plays while the best dancers jit non-stop. And at night, I love that my friends and their friends of friends throw crazy events in warehouses and 9-story buildings. I take pride in knowing that my contribution to the Detroit music scene has been much more than just a bunch of jaded words on an email list. My contribution has helped (and will continue to help) encourage positive growth and development within the scene, both within the city and internationally. I take pride in that every day and it keeps me smiling and still loving the music. I feel sorry for the jaded people who have never been able to experience or somehow lost that type of positive feeling. Detroit music has always incorporated a huge variety of music. The whole essence of Detroit is about listening to every genre and gaining influences. There is a huge list of outside talent that will bring in outside music into the city for that weekend, which will encourage music inspiration. Plus every Detroiter I know is working to develop the new sound so all of that outside talent can listen to it to bring it back out to the outside world. I don't understand how something good like that has been somehow twisted into the foul stream of crap that I've been forced to deal with overloading my inbox. I personally think that Paxahau is doing fine, and I will give them as much support as I can. If anyone else wants to join me here, it's a great place to be. Positive energy encourages growth within the music and new collaborations. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 18:45 To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: Kent Williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up no! not at all. my trendy arse cannot wait for this! - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] am i the only one who would actually love to see a good chunk of the people in the lineup?
RE: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up
By the way Tom, with what you said about Detroit i mean if i wanted to hear drum and bass, id go to london. if i wanted to hear ubercoolische minimal, id go to berlin. if i wanted to hear bad club music, id go to any random club in the world. i wanna hear detroit music. thus, i should go to detroit. shows how apparent it is that you grew up listening to only one aspect of the Detroit culture and that you very possibly have a limited knowledge of the full scope of Detroits music scene. I know of at least one Detroit DnB producer that is better than any London DnB I've ever heard. His names Ojibiwa, and he combines Motown and Jazz influences over the DnB. It's amazing. There's also amazing genres of Industrial by Blazaebla, minimal by N. Khotari, plus hundreds of hidden gems that have never gotten global coverage but are still a huge part of the culture... Stop trying to think that you know what Detroit should sound like. There's a lot more to the city than one type of sound. Thats what makes it Detroit. Pigeonholing it into one sound doesn't represent the city accurately. From: dbooker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 17:14 To: 'fab.'; 'Thomas D. Cox, Jr.'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up Thank you Tom! -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:35 AM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up that is one of the most stupid things i have read on this list fab. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) complaining about the fuse-in line-up On 4/19/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The festival should be a celebration of Detroit music shouldn't it. Not just another generic rave? youd be suprised at how much that idea is railed against in forums like detroitluv or even this one, apparently. i mean if i wanted to hear drum and bass, id go to london. if i wanted to hear ubercoolische minimal, id go to berlin. if i wanted to hear bad club music, id go to any random club in the world. i wanna hear detroit music. thus, i should go to detroit. tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006
RE: (313) DEMF supporters here
a bit sunshiny I know... plur all the way... lol I've heard the rumours as well, from the mouth of a few. I think that goes back to the long-lasting divide between the rave scene and the old skool producers that were always against the drugs. First thing they said was how could a rave promoter know anything about Detroit music? That divide in the Detroit scene has been happening for a long time, and may never change. I recognize both sides of the scene have been integral to its development, and I for one am a bit happy that the rave promoters are finally getting an opportunity to represent by throwing the fest. From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 22:15 To: Svagr, Jodie; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) DEMF supporters here wow, that's sunshiney. good for you, altho i think taking this list that seriously is kinda silly. anyways, some hearsay...a friend told me mad mike told him he and a lot of more established and accomplished detroit artists this list is supposed to be about would not be participating if the festival got too lame. i think we're in danger of seeing that happen, but again...i'm just nervously waiting to see what happens. i also know many great artists who have no interest in participating regardless. festivals arent for everyone, i think i was lucky to have such a good time at the previosu years and i'm not surprised if it ends. not mad.
RE: (313) DEMF supporters here
Nice one FH!! Thats what I'm talking about, a little creativity in your response to the Paxahau line-up. And as for a jit... I've only heard that term in Gettho Tech Clubs.. another great section of Detroit music. From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 22:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DEMF supporters here wheres the music to jit to on this lineup? Jit! At the DEMF? I can't remember ever hearing that except in the tents along the walkways, in between the speedcore and darkstep.. Anyway, Rob and me are going to set up a grandstand for an audience outside the Paxahau office, put together a live webcam broadcast and sell beer and souvenirs to the onlookers while we watch the angry 313ers storm the front door, take over the computers, and get on the phones to cut deals and bring in our favorite DJs so that we can all disagree with our own lineup instead of someone else's. I don't know if we can get a permit for the grandstand but I have a third cousin whose uncle is a retired cop, so we have connections downtown if you know what I'm sayin'. fh
RE: (313) DEMF supporters here
It's wicked... Detroiter's are amazing on the dance floor. From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 19/04/2006 23:32 To: Svagr, Jodie; Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) DEMF supporters here i see people jittin every year at the festival...down in front of the main stage and over in the house/electro tents especially.
RE: (313) Saunderson not doing Fuse-In.
Local veterans that I think could handle the size Paxahau maybe, or the Tecknology people... Anyone else got any suspicions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2006 15:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Saunderson not doing Fuse-In. found this in the Freep http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060218/NEWS01/602180371 Musician Kevin Saunderson is out -- and a group of full-time event professionals might be in -- as Detroit's annual techno festival takes the latest twist in its perpetual backstage saga. Saunderson, a techno DJ and one of the genre's pioneers, said Friday he remains about $250,000 in debt from last year's Fuse-In festival, his first as lead producer of the 6-year-old Memorial Day weekend event at Hart Plaza. Saunderson, speaking from a tour stop in Frankfurt, Germany, said metro Detroit vendors and concert-staging firms are among those owed money. Meanwhile, a small group of local event-production veterans has alerted the City of Detroit to its potential interest in producing the event this May, sources with the city and the group told the Free Press. A representative of the group asked that its members not be named because the process is in its early stages. No formal discussions have taken place, said Lucius Vassar, chief administrative officer for Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. Live Nation, the area's top concert promoter, is unlikely to be involved in the event, said Detroit staffers with the California company, formerly Clear Channel Entertainment. The struggles Saunderson encountered last year aren't new to the event, which has been dogged by financial and logistical problems. Despite large crowds and a high international profile, the event lost money under both its prior incarnations as the Detroit Electronic Music Festival and Movement. Unlike those free events, Saunderson got permission from the city to charge a $10 daily admission or $25 for the three days. About 41,000 tickets were sold. We had debt after the festival that we couldn't shake, or couldn't resolve in quick enough manner, that would have allowed me to do it again, Saunderson said. a small group of local event-production veterans ??? Carol Marvin? MEK Michael.Elliot-Kn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 02/21/06 09:44 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Saunderson not doing Fuse-In? I couldn't believe it actually made it into the Minneapolis newspaper but there was a little blurb in the Sunday's issue about Kevin Saunderson not doing the festival this year. He's apparently $250,000 in the hole from last year. There wasn't much more news than that. Anyone else see anything more? Sounds like the fest is on its way to become corporate or kaput. MEK
RE: (313) [Fwd: Live performance grant]
I'm a US citizen studying in the UK, and luckily for me, many of the courses I took last year were about the UK government funding system for the arts, and the UK has a TON of funding opportunities available for artists. So, Ken, I think maybe you are not aware of everything your fine British country has to offer, which is a shame, because there is a ton of money available... check out the Arts Council Website as a starting point... if you have any more questions, let me know. The Arts Council is just a starting point, but they are a huge force, and they have a lot of money. There are also private organisations and hundreds of trusts offering funding as well. Good luck and don't give up your search so easily!! -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2005 15:20 To: thomas ironside ainslie; 313 Mailing List Subject: RE: (313) [Fwd: Live performance grant] Lap it up US folk. You'd realize how lucky you were if you'd ever tried to get funding out of the (few) State sources here in the UK. Ken -Original Message- From: thomas ironside ainslie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2005 15:09 To: 313 Mailing List Subject: (313) [Fwd: Live performance grant] some of you out there might be interested in this: -=-=-=-=- Program Number: 79365 Title:Multi-Arts Production Fund Sponsor: Creative Capital SYNOPSIS: The sponsor supports original new work in all disciplines and traditions of the live performing arts. Grants range from approximately $10,000 to $40,000. Funds will support forty to forty-two projects by US-based nonprofit organizations undertaking the commissioning or creation of a new work in the live performing arts. Deadline(s): 02/10/2006 Established Date: 04/30/2004 Follow-Up Date: 01/01/2007 Review Date: 12/07/2005 Contact: Moira Brennan, Program Coordinator Address: 73 Spring St., Suite 401 New York, NY 10012 U.S.A. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Program URL: http://www.mapfund.org/apply.html Tel: 212-226-1677 Fax: 212-226-7665 Deadline Ind: Postmark Deadline Open:No Award Type(s):General Project In-Residence Research Grants/R D Citizenship/Country of Applying Institution: Any/No Restrictions Locations Tenable:U.S.A. Institution (including U.S. Territories) Appl Type(s): Non-Profit Organizations--Art/Cultural Target Group(s): NONE Funding Limit:$22,000 AVERAGE Duration: 0 Indirect Costs: Unspecified Cost Sharing: No Sponsor Type: Miscellaneous Non-Federal Geo. Restricted: NO RESTRICTIONS CFDA#: OBJECTIVES: The sponsor supports original new work in all disciplines and traditions of the live performing arts. The goal of the MAP Fund is to assist artists who are exploring and challenging the dynamics of live performance within our changing society, thus reflecting our culture's innovation and growing diversity. ELIGIBILITY The sponsor accepts applications from US-based nonprofit organizations that are undertaking the commissioning or creation of a new work in the live performing arts. Individual artists may only apply to MAP through a partnership with a 501(c)(3), which submits an application on the artist's behalf. Lead artists include choreographers, playwrights, directors, composters, or other artistic makers leading to the creation of the new work. FUNDING Grants range from $10,000 to $40,000, with an average award of $22,000. (emc) KEYWORDS: Arts, General/Other Performing Arts Dance Dramatic/Theatre Arts Music Composition Opera/Musical Theatre
RE: (313) Genres
MKD Dude... how can you say it's like night and day black and white?? Did you actually read what the description says? Alarm Will Sound, who the NY Times calls the future of classical music, has, with a cadre of 10 arrangers, painstakingly recreated and rethought Aphex Twin's legendary electronic work for an all-acoustic ensemble. That to me shows a direct link between electronic music and acoustic... might not be exactly the link your talking about, but it's definitely in the grey area, not black and white like you say. And as for your version being cooler... all I can say is what?? I think it's great that classical music is evolving to study electronic music... 10 arrangers painstakingly recreated and rethought Aphex Twins music... how can anyone not think that's cool? And just so you know, I don't like acoustic music, I rarely listen to anything other than electronic, but I do like people being creative with electronic music, and I love that other genres are studying it. So... MKD... Since your version of music is s much cooler than the rest... post some of it... let us hear it. Cheers!! JoD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 19:10 To: Ian Malbon Cc: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Genres It's like black and white, night and day dude. Acoustitronica has NOTHING to do with acoustica. Don't you see, the stuff I listen to has tronica in the name so it's totally different and cooler. The music I listen to almost has a separate bin with a label in the record shops. MEK Ian Malbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/16/2005 12:53:08 PM: On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all into acoustitronica? these days. How does that differ from this? http://www.bangonacan.org/store/item.html?sku=CA21028 -- Ian
RE: (313) who do you like that is over 40 ?
Teri Bristol and PsychoBitch out of Chicago... F'ing amazing!! -Original Message- From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 October 2005 22:08 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) who do you like that is over 40 ? hm. jean michelle jarre harold faltermeyer klaus schulze tangerine dream pete namlook chris huelsbeck pansonic (funny witnessing 2 old and drunk men destroy their equipment during a liveact) and eh, that kooky monster scientist guy? FRED giannelli wrote: another stupid thread brought to you by the kooky scientist. telepathic regards, danger.fellini http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerfellini/sets/
RE: (313) G2G
Galaxy to Galaxy will be in Liverpool on Nov. 26th ... VooDoo at the Carling Academy... UR presents: Los Hermanos, Live with Mad Mike Banks Gerald Mitchell, VJ show DJ S2... plus Miss Kittin, Ellen Allien, Steve Shiels, and Brendan Long will be playing. Hit me off-list if you'd like half price guest list for this event. Jodie -Original Message- From: Chau, Dang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2005 13:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) G2G are Galaxy 2 Galaxy doing any London shows whilst they're in the UK? -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2005 13:08 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) G2G Laurent Garnier, the guy never stops ! After several live shows of his own, he'll be djing as part of the Underground Resistance French tour with Galaxy 2 Galaxy and Los Hermanos live. Don't miss it November the 17th : France / Montpellier / Daytona November the 18th : France / Bordeaux / Fat Kat November the 19th : France / Paris / Cabaret Sauvage == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.csfb.com/legal_terms/disclaimer_external_email.shtml ==
RE: FW: (313) G2G
I love Liverpool's intense energy... this city reminds me the most of Detroit out of any city I've ever lived in... so yeah, I agree, Liverpool's definitely the place to see them!! Although, I'll probably go and see them in Leeds too, just to compare!! Can't wait to see your stealth track suit Alex!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2005 15:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FW: (313) G2G I'll definitely go to one of these - where / when's the Leeds date - SC Trust me, seeing UR in scouseland will be 10 times more fun than going to leeds. think of all the japes. I'm wearing my shellsuit. I can feel my bird kicking me out after coming back 2 days late already. bring it on. and I'm going to stalk UR all weekend, creeping round the hotel letting the fire alarms off in my stealth shell-suit. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
Seeing as how some of the posts relating to Record time seem to have gotten way off the mark, I thought it best that the truth be posted from Mike Himes(see below)... and although it is a shame that Mike Huckaby is no longer with the company, it's a terrible insult to the really good people that still work there, and have been amazing music buyers for the company for many years to compare Record Time to Tower Records. I've been buying music from Record Time Ferndale for many years now, and Vince Patricola and Matthew Boynton's knowledge of dance music has been invaluable to me. Matt and Vince both know their music, and they work really hard to be a positive force in the Detroit scene, if you have any doubts, check out the Detroit Electronic Quarterly magazine. It's a great example of what can be created if you have a positive attitude, and Vince is the creator of it. So, to dissuade anymore of this getting out of hand... (and just so you know, I originally chose to shop in the Ferndale store because I preferred the layout... the Roseville store's seperated dance room felt way too elitist for my tastes... once I started shopping in the Ferndale store, I realised that the buyers and the staff are incredible with what they know). a message from Mike Himes: Recently we made the very tough decision to close the dance room and put all product onto the sales floor as we have had success with in Ferndale. I had been struggling with this decison for almost 2 years as the room had been slowly losing sales and traffic. With this decision came something that made total sense on paper and on a business level but tore my heart as it was my baby and vision and had done so much for us and the community it served. It's 2005 and the climate for dance vinyl is changing fast and although it is hard I had to face the writting on the wall and make the decision to close the room and move forward. This meant that Mike Huckaby, a dedicated and respected manager and DJ had to be let go. In a perfect world the room would be there forever but today the way people aquire music is changing fast and technology which was once my friend is now taking business away from me at a rapid rate. The DJ in a box craze is over, final scratch and the laptop DJ systems are used by almost 50% of DJ's today and the good music has gone back underground. In the past 5 years 70% of all independent record stores have closed as again music is being aquired in different ways that skip people like me. I don't want to be part of that statistic so I must do what I have to and unfortunately closing the dance room is a step I took to not be included in that stat. For 22 years I have been part of this community and our allegance to the electronic music scene has not been equaled by anyone else and I find it sad that people would think I would turn my back on something that is so very special to me and this is why I am writting this note. Some of my best friends and most cherished moments are from the work we have done with and for this great music community. The dance room is closed and things change but what will never change is my committment to support our local scene especially the electronic scene. We are planning on still carrying the music and supporting it and the mail order business is still alive and busier than ever. I guess that's all I have. Thank you all for your support Mike Himes Recordtime [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11/10/2005 17:03 To: '313@hyperreal.org' Cc: Subject:Re: (313) Record Time Steward, Tim wrote: Not to be confused, Recordtime still sells vinyl They only moved the vinyl out of the dance room Into the main room.(There was always vinyl in the Main room, just not dance music). But also don't be confused that Mike Huckaby will NOT be the one ordering... so it's great that they have vinyl, let's just hope they have the vinyl that we want. Tower Records has vinyl too... but it's not the vinyl that I want to buy... Dave
(313) Promoters in Italy??
Hey everyone... Mike Grant will be traveling to Italy the end of November and is looking to possibley play while he is there. Are there any promoters on this list that may be interested in booking him? Contact me off list if you are. Cheers!! Jodie
RE: (313) Record Time
I'm a bit confused over all this talk that Record time has 'packed up' the dance room... I know Mike was in the Record Time Roseville... and it is definitely a bit of a shock that he no longer works there... but saying that they've 'packed up' the dance room is going to hurt the dance music sales they will still do from the Record Time Ferndale location... Don't push the rest of the guys like Vince Patricola out of a job by starting rumours that there will no longer be dance music sales!! Jodie -Original Message- From: Renegade808 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2005 22:17 To: Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Record Time Yea i have to agree. Mike Huckaby was a big force behind alot of the music at record time. When he called me a week or so ago to let me know he was done there, i thought he was kidding at first. I hope Mike moves on to better things. He really deserves it. I know record time was never the end all be all record source, but i picked up many gems out of that place. as well as met loads of people there...I used to do mail order from record time back around 94 and have alot of great records because of it. i loved those days I am sad that they have packed the dance room up. alot of history there. but i guess its just a sign of the times...or something... michael www.renegaderhythms.com wow . . . I never did all that well shopping at RT but unquestionably it was a highlight of many of my visits to the D (I met Terrence Parker there for the first time in 1995, just to name one example), and a hugely important connecting point for those serious-about- the-music. Plus it seems like at least half of y'all in town worked there one time or another :) Give it up for Mike Huckaby. I hope he lands at a good spot. In my observation, nobody has done more than Mike to keep the music going. Fred
RE: (313) House Music Record Pool
Balance record pool is located out of Orlando Florida, and they're a progressive house music record pool. They're the only one I know of thats any good. JoD -Original Message- From: Aaron-Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2005 18:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) House Music Record Pool Are there any good House music record pools still in existence? And if so, do they service DJs from Detroit? Is there still such a thing as a promo list? Or have these things ended, due to the so-called death of vinyl? Please help... AC
RE: (313) Hello 313, I am....
Introduce yourself! Name : Jodie Svagr Age : 27 Place I Live : Liverpool, UK City I was born in : Rochester, MI (20 minutes outside of Detroit) Other Cities I've lived in : Chicago (1998-2001), Orlando (2001-2003), Detroit (2003-2004) Name : Alex Bond Age : 30 Place I live : Salford, UK City I was born in : Manchester, UK Webpage : n/a What other questions could we have on it? I cant think of any more. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Hello 313, I am....
What got me into the music? First rave was in the D... Neil Landstrum in 1995... it was all over from there... dirty warehouses... dancing till dawn... I've been hooked ever since!! Jodie -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2005 13:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Hello 313, I am Introduce yourself! Name : Alex Bond Age : 30 Place I live : Salford, UK City I was born in : Manchester, UK Webpage : n/a What other questions could we have on it? I cant think of any more. Ermmm, 'how long have you been interested in Detroit music?' and 'what particular record(s)/event(s)/artist(s) turned you on to Detroit?' Me: Age: 37 Place I live: London, UK Born: London Webpage: n/a really. How long been into Detroit music: since my late teens. What turned me on to Detroit: the obvious - 'Techno! The New Dance Sound Of Detroit' compilation. Come on then ... K
RE: (313) Friday question -313 DJ Wrestling
Derrick Plasaiko would kick some hardcore butt... he'd just throw out his raging kick your head into the ground tunes and drive any oponent into the dirt until they begged for more. -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2005 15:52 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Friday question Since it's Friday and office-related paralysis is setting in it's time to ponder the following scenario: In fantasy 313 DJ wrestling, who would be the winners and losers? For my money Buzz Goree would beat most comers since he's a pretty big bloke, I reckon Richie would get his arse kicked since he'd be too busy sorting his barnet...
RE: RE: (313) Friday question -313 DJ Wrestling
THATS HYSERICAL!!! Told ya Derrck aint one to mess with!! He's a bad ass mutha f~cker!! He may seem harmless like a teddy bear, but after listening to one of his sets, ya feel like you've been stomped on, headlocked, and thrown upside down from this side to the next!! -Original Message- From: chad cumby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2005 16:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: (313) Friday question -313 DJ Wrestling he is one guy I would NOT want to get in the ring with.. actual wrestling photo of derek linked below: www.immute.net/~chad/derek.jpg On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:22:56AM -0400, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] ive already offered to take on plaslaiko in the ring. exsqueeze me? uh, i offered to box the guy, but wrestling would work fine. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Any word on the financial situation?
When an organisation is determining whether they will sponsor a company, they usually look at a few things... the demographics of who will attend the history of the company they are considering sponsoring the cost vs. benefit analysis the public image of the company The public image of the company is usually one of the aspects that is looked at with a bit more weight than the others. If the 42,000 members of the public still choose to attend, that might not mean as much as if the million people in the region think the festival is unorganized... what sponsor wants to be associated with a public view of an unorganized company? The only ones I can think of are specialised companies that would be only marketing to the 42,000 people... such as Technics, or RedBull, but even then, the tainted image of disorganisation is often enough to make any sponsor back out... plus, most of those specialised sponsors don't have enough of the cashload available to be able to be the primary sponsor for a festival of that size. Bad press in a situation like this is definitely not good... it might be good in another situation, but not this one. Kevin Saunderson will need to have a seriously good year or two of being amazingly organized... only that can change the public image enough to get the big sponsors back. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2005 15:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Any word on the financial situation? -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] you're trying to coddle this thing imo. and overstating the importance of the media. corporate sponsors are surely privvy to more inside information than what's printed in newspapers, i think they hear about the sketchiness whether it's in print or not. negative media doesnt help, but it's just a reaction to REAL problems that can't be swept aside! i feel like the sponsors pay attention to the media though, they dont want to be associated with something thats drumming up lots of bad press. they want something that is being presented to people as being wholesome, no matter what the reality is. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) whats on ur (car)stereo at moment (was: who woke everyone up?)
Ron Trents set from www.gottahavehouse.com
:)
Nice slow grooves for a day in front of the computer working on essays...
bleugh... at least the tunes are nice and groovy.
-Original Message-
From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2005 17:00
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) whats on ur (car)stereo at moment (was: who woke
everyone up?)
interpretations - dream on
june lopez - dream on
tony 586's mix off of Ld. very nice..
Jamie Stewart wrote:
Dmay Innovator
DJ3000 true colours
Metroplex Timeless
DJ3000 S.I.D vol1
Jeremy Ellis Lotus Blooms
Cliff Martinez Solaris Soundtrack
Public Image LTD Pop Tones
Qbert Wave Twister
Kent cellar of soul.
Cliff Martinez Solaris Soundtrack comes highly recommended.
J
z66 wrote:
..
i've got a hold of new Maetrik album 'casi profundo' at last, and
there is something warm and quite summer-ish about it! i love and
hate it at the same time, just like some of his previous releases;D
for me, there constantly tend to be some tiny bit or two, ruining the
whole listening/groovin' experience.. like this superannoying
bassline on 'almost deep', how could one possibly find it fitting?
original? -- not that much, apart from weird rhythmics generated..
which are totally out of key imho. experimental? electrotrash
influence?:D
now, i want an edit. ofcourse i only niggle like this when i actually
damn love the track. if it didn't hit so close, i'd most likely find
that jerky bassline amusing.
anyway, Maetrik rocks. great flow, tight beats, polished sound and
[sometimes] very well integrated vocals.
///Z
Blaauw, Martijn de wrote:
Since everybody is awake and it seems that summer has finally
arrived in
the lowlands so i made a cd for in my car with some tunes which are
currently rocking it for me...not al of them are technolectro but i'd
thought i'd let u know which tunez rock it for me:
Tiefschwarz feat. Eric D' Clarke- Blow
DJ Hell - i am Amanda la Pore
Richard Bartz - To Hot to stop
David Guetta - World is Mine (blackstrobe mix)
Mathew Johnson - Gemini EP
Terence Fixmer - Danse avec les ombres
Front 242 - Catch the men Live concert in Belgium 2004
Hell Heil - P.D.D. (J. Heil Ltd. Remix)
Alter Ego - Satanic Circus
T-Raumschmiere - Querstromzerspaner (LFO RMX)
New Order - Krafty ('Glimmer 12 extended mix' and 'phones reality
mix')
Necro Facilty - Black Paintings (Skinny Puppy is alive and they are
from
scandinavia!!!)
The tears - Refugees (former suede singer with his new band)
What's doing the trick for you?? Let it know...
Martijn
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jari Tolkkinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: donderdag 9 juni 2005 14:34
Aan: David Beattie
CC: 313
Onderwerp: Re: (313) who woke everyone up?
Yes something has definetly happened :) Maybe it's the spring/summer
sun
luring moody underground techno heads out of their lairs ...
Kompakt: I've bought many records, Speicher 10, speicher 28, both rex
the dogs on kompakt extra, both orbs (gonna buy the third one
aswell) and many others.
New records: Nothing special, dj t's new 12 which was nice
techhouse, couple of mathew jonhson records waiting in the post
office. Oh and that
new dj Gregory's Head talking is also waiting for me at the Oulu
post office. Realy looking forward to that.
Busy weekend coming up, gonna play one club gig, one
reclaim-the-street gig and one techno party gig :) Can't remember
when I had so many gigs
in one weekend :D
How is the Reclaim-the-Street movement in other countries?
Cheers,
--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--
RE: (313) Any word on the financial situation?
I will ALWAYS love the festival... one of the main reasons why I am going to Uni where I am is becuase of my experience working with Derrick's crew 2 years ago... I saw how good intentions of the artists were not actually enough to make things work you have to have business knowledge... issues like organisational structure, contracts, sponsorship, scheduling, its all important, and artists often struggle with it... I'm truly impressed with what Kevin's done with the fest this year. It's going to take me two more years before I graduate, and after seeing what Kevin did this year, I've got hope again that the Festival will still be around for me to work for once I do. Yeah Kevin!!! :) Jodie -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2005 17:39 To: Svagr, Jodie; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Any word on the financial situation? i feel like the sponsors pay attention to the media though, they dont want to be associated with something thats drumming up lots of bad press. they want something that is being presented to people as being wholesome, no matter what the reality is. good point tom ( jodie), and concisely made..sorry if i was an ass to you cyclone, but you made me feel stupid for even bringing it up. you had good points too. but im inclined to think the degree of mismanagement thats been going on is beyond keeping a rosy image in the media. i mean, like greg said, crowd counts off by factor of THIRTY. losing money every year, not even breaking even. nobody getting paid. etc. regardless of media coverage of these things, potential sponsors and music industry insiders will know about these things, and regardless of whether the festival has a bad image or not, will be repulsed. but here's the thing -- these are problems from years past...of course if there is a big controversy over (perhaps intentionally fraudulent) crowd numbers in past years etc, that could be very hurtful. especially since this year it's really positive in comparison, things make SENSE, the numbers are right, like hey look this thing is turning around, hey look we got people managing it with their heads on straight...BUT there is a delicate but positive PR oppurtunity here i think, which would mean contrasting how professionally it was handled this year (especially considering how fast it was thrown together!), with the problems of the past years. because on it's own, this year was not a success, it didnt make money just like every other year -- and it's all about money, right? -- but relative to past years, things look really positive. but you have to make sure the problems of past years, like any potential controversy on those wayoff crowd counts, don't overshadow the new positive direction...something like that?? i think i agree with your drift cyclone...there needs to be some conscientious reporting...i just dont think you can throw a sheet over the mess of past years...just need some nice spin spin spin!!
RE: (313) Any word on the financial situation?
I agree Tom, the tone in the papers was actually very positive (surprising considering its the Detroit papers)... they usually have such a negative tone... I was very pleasantly surprised with how they reviewed the weekend. Jodie -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2005 18:47 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Any word on the financial situation? -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think i agree with your drift cyclone...there needs to be some conscientious reporting...i just dont think you can throw a sheet over the mess of past years...just need some nice spin spin spin!! i do think that the media had given the actual attendance figures a pretty good spin actually, as far as it goes. i remember reading that it was still the most populated of all the festivals in hart plaza despite the misfigures. it seems like most of what ive read since the festival has been nothing but positive, and even in previous years the tuesday edition of the detroit papers always had good things to say about the festival. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Couple o' Fuse Pics
Hi Thorin... Can you tell me if Delirium Films headed up the screens again this year? Jodie -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2005 14:41 To: 'Thorin Teague'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Couple o' Fuse Pics Damm thorin. Those visuals on the jumbotron (last link) look ILL. Nice. And you did that with that rig? Good stuff. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Thorin Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:51 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Couple o' Fuse Pics A little slice of my fuse experience http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19000671/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19000612/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19000505/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19000295/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19003613/
RE: (313) Delirium Films
Cool... thanks Thorin... I'd received an email from Delirium a week before the fest. offering me a paid position this year, but with only one weeks notice it wasn't worth me trying to book a flight from the UK... I've been curious to see if they actually ended up running it... seeing that you didn't get paid makes me glad I didn't book the ticket!! Delirium ran the Video two years ago, I was the Video TD for the High Tech Soul Stage... thoroughly enjoyed working with an animator like yourself... but annoyed with how my payment of footage for my reel never came through bastards!!! Francois K, Carl Craig The Detroit Experiment, Grand Wizard Theodore... sigh... memories are good, but payment would've been better... Derrick May's group never thought to get the artists to sign releases... yet they promised us footage... idiots!! Now theres 100's of tapes from 2003 sitting in a box waiting... hopefully one day a lawyer will get those tapes released to the artists (and to the video TDs and camera ops)... sigh... Jodie -Original Message- From: Thorin Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2005 17:15 To: Svagr, Jodie; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Delirium Films Uhh, looking through their web site I can't tell if they had something to do with it or not. I'm not real clear on how they worked out the video/visualizations this year. All I know is that it was all last second. I did what I did on a volunteer basis. From what I can tell from their web site, they produced the 313 techno doc on Atkins/May/KMS and they've done several music videos. They don't say anything about the festival though. ~Thorin Svagr, Jodie wrote: Hi Thorin... Can you tell me if Delirium Films headed up the screens again this year? Jodie
RE: (313) EA afterparty Sunday
can someone tell me how they did the set-up for the Easterm Market venue this year? A bit curious... heard the sound system was ace, but what else did they do to the place? Can't help my curiostiy... spent my whole summer there last year... aaahh... nostalgia...amazing venue and depending how the set-up is, it can either look really cool, or really empty... last years fest, the place looked cool, interactive with huge games, frisbee discus golf, walls to spray graffiti... even though we had 3000+ people walk through the door, the size of the place still overwhelmed the numbers. Anyways... my LOVE for that venue, my home away from home for a really good summer...makes me REALLY curious to hear how the place looked... how was the set-up done? Design, lights, sound, seating, where did they have people enter, did they open up the back outside area?... anything to form a picture in my head... gosh... I feel like a parent wanting to know how my kid is doing...lol JoD -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 18:54 To: Chana Goodman; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) EA afterparty Sunday info on this at detroitluv.com - Original Message - From: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: (313) EA afterparty Sunday Maan what a Bumer I left when Scan 7 left but had to live through Ultradyne and DJ digital fleeing, heart wrenching. So I guess my big question is...did Rob Hood end up performing. Please say no... heard the promoter might have lost thousands, ouch. I did not ask for my money back. chana
RE: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS
WEll said Dan!! Simons post : These guys from Detroit and everyone who's connected have so many good records that are sold for loads of cash on eBay. Kinda pissed me off... it may seem to an outsider that the peeps from Detroit are rolling in Dough, but in reality they don't have cash flowing out of their pockets... Detroit's the slowest economy in the US... very poor actually... it's unfair to those in the Detroit techno industry for outsiders to get all pissy because their records aren't being repressed... the money might not be there... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 June 2005 15:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) virtual sex lp repressed! ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN BOOTLEGGED, BURN THE BOOTLEGGERS This is consumerism gone mad! Just because someone has an item you want doesn't mean that you have the automatic right to buy it. They might not want to sell it, and since it's their property it's entirely up to them. That doesn't justify a bootlegger stealing it from them. I'm going to sound like a proper old git now, but people these days seem to forget that you can't have everything. Some things in life just aren't available, and that's simply too bad, get over it! Alex Bond: you're taking the beans off carl craigs kids toast innit. Ok, now I'm offended! I buy almost every bloody record that Carl Craig produces so my money is definitely going into his pockets!!! But if someone bootlegs the Virtual Sex lp it's because no one else thought of it before. Come on people!!! These guys from Detroit and everyone who's connected have so many good records that are sold for loads of cash on eBay. Why don't they repress it themselfs? Why wait 'till someone else does it and be angry about it. You know people want these records!!! Make sure people can buy them! It's simple economy! It's the same discussion as with downloading music. People have a need, act upon it. And make sure someone else doesn't outsmart you.
RE: (313) Detroit: Ruin of a city
Lowell Boileau is one of the best Detroit photographers I've ever witnessed... check out http://.Detroityes.com 800 images of Detroit... truly amazing. -Original Message- From: Jamie Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 June 2005 15:37 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Detroit: Ruin of a city Hello all, I'm new to the list although I've been stalking it for a while. Just got back from Detroit(first time) and was totally blown away by the city, people and the music. I was searching the web for films about Detroit and found this. http://humanities.uwe.ac.uk/bristoldocs/detroit/ It's been shown a couple of times in Detroit and I think it's being screened in London and Leeds soon. Looks like it's worth a view but I don't think it's on DVD yet. Highlights of my trip were... Aril Brikha. First thing I heard as I got to the festival. Kenny Larkin: Absolutely steaming. Big dude wearing the green 'Tiesto sucks' t shirt: Everyone who came into contact with him had a smile on their face. Michigan central depot: Driving though the tunnel beside the depot and coming through the other side alive. Priceless. Ken Ishii: Didn't expect such a top set from him. Glad I stayed for that one. UR: Electronic Gospel: Takes your heart to another level. Rob Hood and T1000 at EA despite small numbers and beard stroking DJ3000 breaking into my car. (see below) Thanks. Lowlights Missing Ultradyne twice. My friend locking my car keys in the boot/trunk of my car outside submerge. Cheers J
RE: (313) RE: fuse-in detroit - technicolor mf
Thanks Minto for your review... and all others as well... 10 months ago I moved out of Detroit to the UK... liverpool actually... and missing this years Fuse-In was a bit of a heartwrench for me...I've always made sure to contribute to the fest in years past in some way or another... and not being able to be there to pitch in was a total heartbreak for me... reading all of your great reviews and seeing the great pics has helped me find a little bit of happiness... thanks everyone!! JoD -Original Message- From: Minto George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 04:07 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: fuse-in detroit - technicolor mf Back from tha D after 20 hours of being on the road...off the top of my head while the weekend is still fresh in my mind: *this is a long review so break out the potato chips and onion dip* Day 1: Woke up around 11am and made it out to Submerge to take the gang record shopping. it was hard to get them out of there after entering. really happy to see Submerge reaching out to more labels outside of Detroit too. As always it was like feeding time at the troff, lots of techno enthusiasts and very little elbow room to dig for the slop. got to the festival kind of late after friday night's pre-fuse-in party at Oslo. As always every year previous, the schedule was so out of wack it didn't matter looking at the print out of the schedule i had brought with me. When we arrived Luke Eargoggle had just started up in the Musiclogical tent. He played a sweet set of LIVE electro and egyptian lover-like beats. sux we missed Orgue's set cause we had heard it rained early on at noon and there were a lot of people checkin out Brian's set. Also saw a bit of Pirahnahead's deep house dj set which was nice to hear as the sun was breakin out on the main stage. Really overall a nice beautiful cool and breezy weekend. Then it was back to the tent which is where I and pretty much most of the gang stayed the rest of the evening with highlight sets from Legowelt (best set i had ever heard Danny play going more into old school chicago Polarius mode), Cosmic Force (I had thought Cosmic Force was 2 guys but finally met Ben and he explained Edo does not have anything to do with Cosmic Force anymore and that it has been that way for a while now. Edo still records for Ben's marguerita label though), Bangkok Impact, and Detroit in Effect! What a show they put on too!!! Klen and Serge from Clone also played brilliant dj sets. Ultradyne ended the night with a nice set of dark mysterious EViLL! In between I caught pretty much all of Aril Brika's DEEP set on the main stage. Also Fabrice rocked it well too! lost of Detroit and gosh i remember hearing Robert Armani's Circus Bells played too! nice! and it's a shame we didn't meet up. next time Fabrice! ;) Missed a lot of people's sets too like John Tejada's set as well as tony olivierra, suburban knight, and electofunk live! which i was really bummed to miss since it was one of last year's highlight's for me. afterparty action started off at this middle eastern restaurant in Dearborn which had some nutty dope arabic music band playing. The food was incredile and the music was sweet...very inspirational. afterwards some crashed at the hotel and a few of us troopers made it out to see our favorite $tink play live late into the night... j played some favorites of course and a new track i had not heard before which was this slow struttin' bassline tune that had even legowelt jammin while all the other dutch crew were passed out on the floor. haha. A nice chill set by mah dowg with such short notice and amazing considering the little time he had to put it together. whew what an amazing first day at the festival. i would have been just as happy to go home at that point. Day 2... slow gettin up and made it out to the festival way late thinking we had missed raiders of the lost Arp but again the schedule all different from the posted one and we caught most of Mario's set which was definitely a highlight of the weekend. Scan 7 was sick! tough as nails techno and so good it made me punch convextion in the arm pretty hard. that track with the 808 kick in one bar with the decay all the way up *ucked me up! the re-uniting of AUX 88 was nice too. Seeing Model 500 LIVE was something I had been anticipating for a long time. It was cool to see Juan up there on the vocals but what was up with the air-101? haha too bad you can't play chords on that keyboard :P still a treat to see even as funny as some of the new juan lyrics were. I'm the audiotech up in this *itch! hahah yah hearing technicolor on that sound system was sweet. model 500 kicked off equals lame...so we ran over to see Robotnick. It was packed in the tent and i would describe it as italo-techno most of the time he played. very hi-nrg and not my cup of tea musically but fun to watch him doing old man dance moves up there and smiling real silly. Greg Earle and I were diggin the moment he
RE: (313) Fuse-In techno (Straight Ahead Techno).
Thats the best part of Detroit... amazing live music creating techno... must be the Motown influence... for the past few years I've seen more and more people switching to include a live instrument element in the creation of the Detroit techno... to me, I think that this is a really good phase in the progression of techno. Don't get me wrong, I love the amazing production techniques that computers and synths can make, plus the skills of a DJ will always amaze me... but something about a live music jam added into the mix... I love it!! I recently threw a gig where I had an electric guitarist jam over the DJ, the scratch techniques he did with the guitar could win in some of the best DJs Scratch Battles, yet it sounded totally electronic, very techno. Once you see a live show mixed creating the techno, it is difficult to be satisfied sometimes with a live pa or a DJ that just stands there... but even though I say that, I also recognize that 3 days worth of techno is enough to make anyone a bit tired of hearing the boom boom sounds... so... maybe thats why you got tired of hearing it as well... too much boom boom made your ears tired :P JoD -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 16:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Fuse-In techno (Straight Ahead Techno). While some of you are on the topic of Straight ahead, Bangin,german or Looped techno. I have to say that this years festival has really made me question my taste of this particular genre. I've always been a fan of this music mainely because of Rob Hood, Old Mills, Jay Denham and others,therefore I've always defended the likes of looped based techno. But with UR completely blowing me away with their LIVE Band + sequnecer set and the fact that I experienced too many lifeless, pegged in the red, bang fests from the likes of Steve Stoll and Luciano, to name a few. I started to slowly find myself leaving stages or rooms (at afterparties) that previously would've entyertained me. As the weekend progressed I found myself advoiding that sound all together. Don't get me wrong, with the right d.j. it still can be inspirational. Alan Oldham, gave the best DJ performance of the weekend to just 50 people at the EA afterparty and Mike Huckaby played the most eclectic bangin set @ The Substance afterparty. But all the others started to sound just repetitive and quite frankly JUST Plain LOUD. Even my own live set was a bit un-inspirational too myself. The quality and variety of the festival ( Especially electro) really opened my ears to to some good talent and not just the majority of those that can just beat match or produce bangin beats. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:20 AM To: 'Garrett McGrath' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Fuse-In techno Great of you to point that out. Yeah...I guess I wouldn't have to ask if I was there huh? Little salt in the wound? Or just an amazing grasp of the obvious? **sulking off to more missed fest depression** Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:02 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Fuse-In techno On Jun 1, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: straight ahead (german) techno What does this refer to nowadays though? dunno. if you'd been there, you'd know exactly what i mean.
(313) P-Funk's coming to Liverpool!!
I was just walking down the street today and saw that P-Funk will be doing a LIVE set at the Magnet on June 26th... Witnessd a lot of the Hyperrealers talking about the 3-chairs, and the new track feat. Billy Love... There's a new 12 on Westend by a group from Detroit. Kings Of Late Night feat. Billy Love. if you go here: http://westendrecords.com/shop/downloads.php3#WES1044 Billy Love has done some work with P-Funk as well... produced some tracks with them a few years back. Anyways... my whole point is that P-Funk is WICKED!!! REALLY looking forward to this gig!!
RE: (313) Theo Parrish mix on WestEnd!
Billy Love is definitely THE MAN!!! Not enough peeps know about him, but he's been part of the underground scene forever... he was the chief editor for the magazine in 1991 that is now in the Techno Exhibit at the Detroit Historical Museum... his house is the coolest jamfest ever!! LOTS of LOVE for the Billy Love!! -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 May 2005 14:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish mix on WestEnd! Hmmm. It is indeed *The* West End Records, cool. K There's a new 12 on Westend by a group from Detroit. Kings Of Late Night feat. Billy Love. if you go here: http://westendrecords.com/shop/downloads.php3#WES1044 you can listen to it, third item down the page. you can also check THEO PARRISH'S mix. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Radio station with online archives?
Three online radio sites out of Detroit that I know of... Metro Detroit Beatology mr-incognito.com has Mathew Boynton, Jonathon Voigt, Gary G. Benny andwww.newdetroitradio.com with 24-7 electronic music plus www.cjam.ca is doing that streaming of this weekends event... which I'm LOVING!!! I'll be glued to the computer all weekend!!! -Original Message- From: Ian Malbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 May 2005 22:51 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Radio station with online archives? Hey list. I'm blanking on the URL for a college/NPR station in Windsor/Detroit area that keeps online archives of their broadcasts on an hourly basis. I think this might be the station that Mike Huckaby has a weekly show on. Any info on the showtimes, or station ID, or URL is welcome. -- Ian (P.S. Anything else of electronic interest still happening on the Detroit radio front?)
FW: (313) Chicago (OT)
Yeah... Just because some people have only experienced dance music in an all nighter drug fest, does not mean that that is the ONLY true way to go!! I've been living the music for a very long time, including during outdoor events during the day... the music is a part of my ENTIRE existance, NOT just the evenings. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2005 00:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Chicago (OT) -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as for stuff like summer dance, i'm sure it's a great time, but it's also another step in the neutering of dance music. what once went down in crazy all night clubs now has to happen in the sunlight. they used to play house music on the radio in chicago during lunch hour. i dont see why this is a bad thing. getting people to hear the music is a good thing! tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Chicago SummerDance Schedule
I do understand how the UK has a different history than the US, which might very well affect the way the government handles the festivals. I'll tell you a bit of a story about Chicago... Around the year 2000, the mayor of chicago, Mayor Daley was having some problems with his children being found drugged out at raves, so the story goes, he really cracked down on the city because of this...taking it out on everyone for the problems he was having with his kids... it even became scary to throw a small house party, because if you had a DJ, the police were more than likely to fine everyone, house owner, DJ, party-goers... everyone was at risk... The entire situation was very bleak... I remember one of the first thing that people coordinate with the government that helped to turn it around was a music art exhibit that was done on the Red Line subway train... they set up turntables and a DJ played the entire city route, from the north side to the south side... admittedly there were some sound issues because the power would cut out at various stops, but overall it was a success. A legal rave on a subway train, sponsored by the government. Then the government started to sponsor a once a month event in a skate park on the south side. Every month, during the day on a Sunday, kids would skate their hearts out, next to adults that would dance to the sweet house tunes. Through this process of slow build-up, the government began to realise that if done properly, it can work. It sounds like a sappy story, but its true. The Moyor of chicago is still Mayor Daley, but the outlook for the electronic music industry is much brighter. If you compare government policies as a whole, the UK and USA governments are very similar. The US has been fighting the rave and electronic music industry movements for years. Thank God it was finally beaten out of the legal process a few months ago, but prior to that, the past five+ years have been frightening for everyone involved in the electronic music industry. Many of us feared for our jobs, our music, and our way of life. I'd love to finish this thought and continue to debate this, but I have to run for now... Let me know your thoughts, and anyone else's thoughts on this... Jodie -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2005 14:03 To: 313 Org Cc: Svagr, Jodie Subject: Re: (313) Chicago SummerDance Schedule firstly the below was sent to me privately but i've checked with jodie and it's cool to go to the list. On 10 May 2005, at 12:56, Svagr, Jodie wrote: I don't agree with you on this at all... I've lived in all three locations, Detroit, Chicago, and now the ~UK... and I've witnessed what happened in Detroit and Chicago during the planing phases of getting these festivals off the ground. In both cities, people said exactly what you are saying about the UK. Both cities were having huge problems with the government and police stopping electronic music events. Both cities were in a crisis... and the people in the electronic music communities thought that eventually it would become impossible to throw events... but through a LOT of hard work by the people in the electronic communities, the government started to change their opinions on things. It takes is a lot of planning, hard work, and knowledge, plus determination and persuasion, and eventually you end up with what has occurred in Chicago and Detroit. Both cities are very proud of these acomplishments, and they should be. firstly i'm not trying to take any credit away from the people that made this happen. big respect is due. thing is tho the situation in the UK is definitely more locked down against this kind of thing due to the fact we had the massive rave explosion of the late 80s early 90s. it's even enshrined in law (and yeah i did go on the marches in london to protest). the UK is definietly a different kettle of fish compared to the states in this regard. even peaceful protests (like things like critical mass) are completely swamped with police these days. dance music is even more frowned upon. i went to movement last year and was amazed (and pleasantly surprised) by the relative lack of police at the event. i'm not complaining, i think this is a good thing. (also i think this isn't even a european/US difference, Queen's Day in Amsterdam had very few police when i wentthe ones there were just to make sure people were ok). never happen in the UK though. there'd be a sea of yellow jacketted riot police with sticks and dogs as far as the eye could see in anticiptaion of any trouble. If I had a dollar for every time someone from Detroit or Chicago had said this, I'd be very wealthy, now look at where things are in those cities... who knows, maybe England will change as well. :) Jodie the government are unlikely to go back on the way things are in the UK imo. i do see what you say above
RE: (313) Chicago SummerDance Schedule
The ordinance that the government was trying to push through was called the anti-rave ordinance. It was very vague in wording, but was being translated by the police as any event that had more than 50 people and a DJ. If it was 50 people and a rock band, the ordinance didn't apply, it was only if there was a DJ... which obviously upset everyone in the Industry. I've heard that the UK has a similarly ridiculous law called the Repetitive Beats law, banning music gatherings that have repetitive beats... is this true? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2005 14:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Chicago SummerDance Schedule The US has been fighting the rave and electronic music industry movements for years this point needs expanding on! what do you mean? interested to know. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Manchester '313' events - Theo WP
Hi all... I'm in the midst of researching for a University project anlyzing the current state of musicians touring between the USA and the UK... does anyone have any ideas of where to search or who to ask? I need information on visas, and how the musicians/DJs get paid, taxes, etc. Thanks in advance!!! Jodie -Original Message- From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2005 12:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Manchester '313' events - Theo WP Hi all, For those interested I've spoken to some people at electric chair in manchester and apparently work permit should be okay for Saturday. I don't know if this affects any other UK dates? Apparently Theo was on the Giles P show last night? Cheers -Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone know if mr. parrish's encounter with the visa people here in the UK will have an effect on this? Only if you can tell me how long is a piece of string. I heard they were trying to get him a work visa. thats what I *heard* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.
