Re: Drexciya by numbers
I think the best way to learn how to write / produce is to start out copying the shit out of your heroes. Yes, that yields derivative results, but originality can come later. In the spirit of this... this is GREAT! <3 On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 07:51:36 AM PDT, Alasdair Lyon wrote: I'm not too sure what to think about this. I guess this is a techno equivalent of publishing guitar tab in a magazine. Thankfully they haven't included an ableton template to go with it. https://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/deconstructed/drexciya-black-sea/
(313) Fwd: failure notice
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Re: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year
Are there any original members still playing live or is just a cover band now? G Sent from my phone... On 22 Nov 2012, at 14:26, "1-11" <1...@bethere.co.uk> wrote: > http://www.kraftwerk.com/concerts/index-concerts.html > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 7720 (20121122) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > >
Re: (313) what up Detroit
That doesn't surprise me the last time I saw them play "Live" they used a backing cd, they mimicked playing a keyboard for some of the tracks. G On 27 May 2012, at 19:15, "Fred Heutte" wrote: > The word I'm hearing is that Dopplereffekt got booed at a recent > show in NY. So this could be interesting, at least. I still play a > couple tracks from the Infophysix EP and they certainly had an > impact back in the day. > > So, see you at 8:30 and we'll have something to talk about! > > fh > > > - >> Pizza papolis 830. >> >> Awesome. >> >> On May 26, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: >> >>> I always think of Plaka as the place to go at 6 am :) >>> >>> I'm kind of curious to see what Dopplereffekt will actually do -- >>> Underground stage at 7-8, otherwise I'm open. Denise, how >>> about just picking a time and place and let's go with it. >>> >>> fh >>> >>> >>> - >>>> I have not been to plaka in YEARS. What time? >>>> >>>> On May 26, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I suggest Plaka. >>>>> >>>>> On May 26, 2012 11:42 AM, wrote: >>>>> 313 dinner Sunday sounds great. Where we meeting? >>>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Back again and ready to take it all on, although it's going to be hot >>>>>> this weekend and I'm planning to take things back from +4 to +1 >>>>>> as a result : ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Not happy the Tigers aren't in town, but so it goes. >>>>>> >>>>>> 313 should do a dinner get-together or something... Sunday? >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> fh >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
(313) Thinnerism???
Anyone know what happened to Thinnerism??? I was waiting for the relaunch back last Oct/November only to see it changed to this November. Anyone know where I can find the old stuff in the Thinner catalog for download?
RE: (313) NPR: How The Internet Transformed The American Rave Scene
good article, a little off at times (seriously... Rob Theakston is just "a Detroit rave veteran"???), but a good read. -Original Message- From: jeremy bispo [mailto:jbi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:12 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) NPR: How The Internet Transformed The American Rave Scene http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/07/11/137680680/how-the-internet-tra nsformed-the-american-rave-scene -- Best, Jeremy As You Like It Founder & Executive Producer skype: jeremybispo i...@ayli-sf.com www.ayli-sf.com
RE: (313) OK Kent, I see your point
this could be argued a bit. I would use Ghettotech as possibly the best example of "had to be there" kind of music. While the world at large rocks out to GT, unless you were listening to Gary Chandler and the rest of 'em evenings on WJLB from his first appearances in early '91 until GT had fully formed, you can't quite piece together where it came from or why. Maybe I'm putting too much into it, but I believe having been in the clubs back then hearing the progression to full-on ghettotech gives me a different take on GT than maybe someone else who wasn't there. It's likely an association with different events from back then too... Like hearing "Coffee Pot (It's Time for the Percolator)" on Belle Isle or the 7 mile strip on a Friday night during the summer of '93, or "I'll Beat That B_tch With A Bat" while cruising down Woodward through Highland Park heading downtown... There IS an essence of certain forms of music that have a "had to be there" component to fully understand it, but not being a part of that doesn't mean one cannot enjoy the music. I'm sure there's a lot of Reggae that I simply won't get because I was not a part of the struggles of living in Jamaica's slums, but I still enjoy it anyways. -Original Message- From: Jacob Arnold [mailto:ja...@gridface.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:55 PM To: Thor Teague Cc: Diego Simak; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OK Kent, I see your point I agree with Thor--every listener brings their own interpretation to a piece of music. Even the artist might not be able to explain why they created it. I don't think you have to be from Jamaica to appreciate reggae or be from New Orleans to appreciate jazz. These scenes all started local and then gained a wider audience overseas. In fact, I have no doubt European tastes shaped the sound of techno to some extent. If a record with a certain sound sold well in Europe, of course Detroit producers would create other tracks in that style. In any case, I personally think that if you are dancing to it, then you "get it." J On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Thor Teague wrote: > Music is its own meaning... there is no need for it to be this or be > that, if you choose to let it simply be. Nobody dances to a > destination. The point of the dance is the dance. > > I don't think you can understand the SOCIO-POLITICS behind it without > at least living there for a few years, if not being from there. > > But that only has as much meaning as you choose to attach to it. > ~T > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Diego Simak wrote: > >> What do you guys think about this? >> Is possible for a person that had born outside Detroit and US, >> correctly understand the real meaning of Detroit Techno? >> >> >> >> > >
RE: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void"
true that this isn't the place (RIP to 313Techknow), however, it's good info that I'll be taking a look at. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM To: G. Jones Cc: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void" Not that this is really the place to discuss VST plugins but... Waves plugins are quite expensive and (I would argue) a real pain to use because of their copy protection. The W1 limiter is a carefully coded clone of the Waves L1 Limiter, and it's free. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, G. Jones wrote: > hmmm... so W1 is nice eh? Maybe I've had my head in the land of Waves > plugins for too long... > > -Original Message- > From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM > To: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com > Cc: list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void" > > http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/Verdant-A_Void-Mix.mp3 > > Gone on a diet - 192kbs MP3 -- 153mb. > > Oh, and Andrew there was a LOT of headroom on that mix, so I jacked up > the volume, without messing with the dynamics. > > One thing that DJs who aren't dyed in the wool studio rats don't do is > a bit of after the fact mastering. I don't believe in messing with > the sound much,as you're playing other people's productions which have > been mixed and mastered to their satisfaction already. But it never > hurts to get things pushed up to normal commercial volume levels. > > A gift to the world is the W1 limiter. This is a 'brick wall' > lookahead limiter. You just look at your waveform and pull down the > threshold so it cuts a few DB off your biggest peaks. Most of the > time it will be completely transparent, and just raise the average > level so you don't have to max out the volume to hear it on the subway. > > http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html > http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php > > It's also a great plug-in to drop on drum tracks to get them embiggened. > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: >> >> Tracklist looks good, but at 550mb its too expensive for my connection. >> >> :( >> >> C >> >> >> > My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up >> > to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo >> > mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more >> > experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. >> > >> > >> > Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of >> > which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll >> > come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really >> > liked when I was forty ..something. >> > >> > >> > http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void >> > >> > >> > Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo >> > (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary >> > (Ann >> > Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay >> > Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled >> > (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time & Space (Duplex >> > North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United >> > Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn >> > /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) >> > Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der >> > Familie /Sark (Sven’s Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller >> > /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul >> > People >> > Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House >> > (Uzuri) >> > >> > enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. >> > >> > thanks for listening >> > verdant-recordings June 2011 >> > >> > >> > www.verdant-recordings.com >> > >> > Andy >> >> > >
RE: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void"
hmmm... so W1 is nice eh? Maybe I've had my head in the land of Waves plugins for too long... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM To: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void" http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/Verdant-A_Void-Mix.mp3 Gone on a diet - 192kbs MP3 -- 153mb. Oh, and Andrew there was a LOT of headroom on that mix, so I jacked up the volume, without messing with the dynamics. One thing that DJs who aren't dyed in the wool studio rats don't do is a bit of after the fact mastering. I don't believe in messing with the sound much,as you're playing other people's productions which have been mixed and mastered to their satisfaction already. But it never hurts to get things pushed up to normal commercial volume levels. A gift to the world is the W1 limiter. This is a 'brick wall' lookahead limiter. You just look at your waveform and pull down the threshold so it cuts a few DB off your biggest peaks. Most of the time it will be completely transparent, and just raise the average level so you don't have to max out the volume to hear it on the subway. http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php It's also a great plug-in to drop on drum tracks to get them embiggened. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > > Tracklist looks good, but at 550mb its too expensive for my connection. > > :( > > C > > > > My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up > > to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes > > on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and > > ambient stuff on my own site. > > > > > > Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of > > which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll > > come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really > > liked when I was forty ..something. > > > > > > http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void > > > > > > Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo > > (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann > > Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay > > Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB > > Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time & Space (Duplex North > > Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements > > (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined > > (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled > > /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie > > /Sark (Sven’s Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My > > Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People > > Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House > > (Uzuri) > > > > enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. > > > > thanks for listening > > verdant-recordings June 2011 > > > > > > www.verdant-recordings.com > > > > Andy > >
RE: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void"
30 minutes into it and it's nice so far. I dig this kinda stuff a lot. will have to convert to mp3 tho for on the go listening tho. My little Sansa C240 mp3 player that ran Rockbox died recently and I don't see FLAC support with my new Android phone (though I'm sure it's out there and I'm just being lazy). From: Andrew Green [mailto:mr.verd...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 6:04 AM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Deep Mix: "A Void" My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really liked when I was forty ..something. http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time & Space (Duplex North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie /Sark (Sven's Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House (Uzuri) enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. thanks for listening verdant-recordings June 2011 www.verdant-recordings.com Andy
RE: (313) Claude Young's DEMF set
ugh, tried to upload it via Yousendit. There's a cap of 50MB for free users. I'll see if I can find somewhere else for it. -Original Message- From: Samuel Karmel [mailto:samuel.kar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:17 PM To: jeremy bispo Cc: Jay Stickel; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Claude Young's DEMF set Re-up? please On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:54 AM, jeremy bispo wrote: > We're (AS YOU LIKE IT) doing a free day party in Golden Gate Park Sat > from noon to 6pm and Sunday Pacific Sound has A Guy Called Gerald also > at a free day party. This one is on Treasure Island. > > I can send more info, if you want, privately. > > - Jeremy > Ayli-sf.com
RE: (313) string synth sound
Just as an aside, anyone looking to do some similar stuff in a modern DAW should probably own the Korg Legacy Digital VST/RTAS set of plugins. I have a template in Cubase SX3 simply called "Detroit" that consists of Korg M1, two Wavestation modules, and two FM8 modules (which I use to import all of my old TX81z and DX7 patches via sysex). -Original Message- From: Daniel Troberg [mailto:erasemu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:10 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound From: Daniel Troberg Date: må 19 jul 2010 20.07.26 GMT+02:00 To: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound thats very interesting, X can be the key. Im not after how to do it, I know that stuff already. Im interested in which gadget it is. the only thing below with some kind of second hand value is the 909 yes, , I know two friends with mills signed 909s,, both in sweden. funnn. blocks : easier yes, funnier nooo On 13 jul 2010, at 06.39, Mike Taylor wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg To: kent williams Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) Electro vs Electro
I think its reasonable to say that Daft Punk went in an electro direction after their first album. if ONLY because they then had some vocoders, arpeggiators and a few non 4/4 rhythms. does that make it 'electro'? or maybe they just invented "electro-house"? - Original Message From: Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 1:43:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to confuse the arguments as much as possible. 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown influenced. 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats. 3. Is Prince pop or electro? Roger & Zapp? Dr. Dre sampling Roger & Zapp? ... what about Snoop here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap? - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KiDD*e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:25:58 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro LOL! Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder. MEK "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM: > I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term wrongfully > used. > If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i always ask > whether it's "ÉlectrO" (with a flat french teen rocker accent), or > "EE-LeK-TrOw" (with a robot distorted voice). If he doesn't get it, i say > goodbye. > - K* > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Benoît Pueyo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:57 PM > Subject: RE: (313) Electro vs Electro > > > > Nail meet Hammer - bang! Exactly Ken. Imo the word and meaning of > Electro > > has been hijacked and the plane is in danger of being blown up. > > "Electro" has been slapped on as a prefix because it became the hot word - > > it sold magazines like Mixmag and URB, it sold fashion accessories at Hot > > Topic, and it sold records at HMV/Best Buy. Why? Because few people > > buying it were old enough to know it the first time. They'd heard the > word > > but didn't hear the sound. > > > > MEK > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: (313) Electro vs Electro
I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to try to confuse the arguments as much as possible. 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown influenced. 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats. 3. Is Prince pop or electro? Roger & Zapp? Dr. Dre sampling Roger & Zapp? ... what about Snoop here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap? - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KiDD*e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:25:58 AM Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro LOL! Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder. MEK "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM: > I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term wrongfully > used. > If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i always ask > whether it's "ÉlectrO" (with a flat french teen rocker accent), or > "EE-LeK-TrOw" (with a robot distorted voice). If he doesn't get it, i say > goodbye. > - K* > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Benoît Pueyo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:57 PM > Subject: RE: (313) Electro vs Electro > > > > Nail meet Hammer - bang! Exactly Ken. Imo the word and meaning of > Electro > > has been hijacked and the plane is in danger of being blown up. > > "Electro" has been slapped on as a prefix because it became the hot word - > > it sold magazines like Mixmag and URB, it sold fashion accessories at Hot > > Topic, and it sold records at HMV/Best Buy. Why? Because few people > > buying it were old enough to know it the first time. They'd heard the > word > > but didn't hear the sound. > > > > MEK > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
I totally BELIEVE that! :-) - Original Message From: Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Jeffrey Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:12:35 AM Subject: RE: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month I heard UR developed the technology for that cloaking device for their nite-strikes. And I heard that Mad Mike gets 1 hour sleep a night and can dis-assemble and re-assemble a 303 whilst blindfolded in only 2 minutes. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html sadly...this suburban boy got 10/15. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
(313) appropriation thread w.r.t. Detroit, Ghetto Tech
also somewhat relevant- this guy did a master's thesis on the subject, posted here for all to read! http://www.dickride.com/gm-ghettotech-thesis.pdf - Original Message From: kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:23:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Justice I'm not entirely sure who it is you think missed the opportunity. They showed that ad a lot, and if anyone watching TV thought 'wow what is that?' they could have hit the internet to find out. I'm sure there is someone out there that saw that commercial and was turned on to the music, but that happened before licensing music for a commercial became a big deal. Now every band's dream is to sell a track for a commercial, and their CDs go out with stickers that say "AS HEARD IN THE LATEST STAY FRESH MAXIPAD COMMERCIAL." That was also when people thought a half million people were showing up at DEMF. I'm not sure the US is ever going to take Techno out of the underground. All the American artists making the music make most of their money overseas. The majority of Americans are so musically conservative that Radiohead is considered edgy for using electronic percussion. Most Americans are turned off by any music that doesn't feature a prominent vocal. On 6/29/07, Generator Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nevermind rolling stones or spinwhat about that Ford commercial??? > > I personally thought it was the Jackie Robinson moment for Detroit Techno, > the break this music was waiting for. I thought it was the greatest thing > ever to happen to this music and it was a sign of things to come for this > music ACROSS the board. But nooo, mugs' egos and the lack of > foresight by everyone, including the audience ruined it. And none of it > was Ford's fault either. So basically we all saw what happened if this > music TRIED to leave the underground. > > It still kills me to this day of that missed opportunity. > > Marina Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
(313) Ford commercial
I thought it was a dope ad. wasn't subscribed here at that time. sounds like it got bad reviews on this board... because here is our underground thing getting floated up to the mainstream? I find that very understandable actually. I guess I like the add more in retrospect because it stands as a fluke rather than a harbinger. its years later. we have the missy elliot remix of clear... but yet (thankfully) no britney redo of model 500. was the concern for naught? - Original Message From: Generator Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:55:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice Nevermind rolling stones or spinwhat about that Ford commercial??? I personally thought it was the Jackie Robinson moment for Detroit Techno, the break this music was waiting for. I thought it was the greatest thing ever to happen to this music and it was a sign of things to come for this music ACROSS the board. But nooo, mugs' egos and the lack of foresight by everyone, including the audience ruined it. And none of it was Ford's fault either. So basically we all saw what happened if this music TRIED to leave the underground. It still kills me to this day of that missed opportunity. Marina J.T. wrote: >>but I guess I just don't get what *would* be a genuine way of calling >> attention to the music? (in contrast to "this disingenuous manner"). > > well put..i agree with most of what tom is saying at some level, but it's > impossibly idealistic and entirely speculative. idealism is vital tho. but > yeah. who knows exactly what would happen if somehow someway the crazy > "real" club stuff got mainstream coverage, but i highly doubt it would > take off like spank rock, there's no foundation for it too. the foundation > ahs to be built sometime somewhere though if something like that is ever > going to happen. > > i remember how excited i was to see articles in rolling stone and spin > some years back about the belleville 3, thinking "yes, the rest of the > world is finally going to wake up to this brilliant music and "real" dance > music will become a viable part of the music industry!"bzzt! but > then again, it depends on your pov. playlists from ibiza have gotten > better, and i'm certainly happier to see kompakt inhabiting the same space > moonshine and company used to. it could be better, maybe, but it could > also be much worse. something is usually better than nothing, and that > goes for spank's mis-credit as bmore club as well > > > M. Tang | A & R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12") Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: (313) Justice
I'm sorry for all those weary of this thread at this point, I don't blame ya. but for anyone that has found something interesting here then check this out. over on the "hollerboard" the question is asked whether all the media hype has killed b-more club at this point... and DJ Technics chimes in... http://www.low-bee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21236&start=120 - Original Message From: J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Thomas D. Cox,Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:32:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) Justice >but I guess I just don't get what *would* be a genuine way of calling >attention to the music? (in contrast to "this disingenuous manner"). well put..i agree with most of what tom is saying at some level, but it's impossibly idealistic and entirely speculative. idealism is vital tho. but yeah. who knows exactly what would happen if somehow someway the crazy "real" club stuff got mainstream coverage, but i highly doubt it would take off like spank rock, there's no foundation for it too. the foundation ahs to be built sometime somewhere though if something like that is ever going to happen. i remember how excited i was to see articles in rolling stone and spin some years back about the belleville 3, thinking "yes, the rest of the world is finally going to wake up to this brilliant music and "real" dance music will become a viable part of the music industry!"bzzt! but then again, it depends on your pov. playlists from ibiza have gotten better, and i'm certainly happier to see kompakt inhabiting the same space moonshine and company used to. it could be better, maybe, but it could also be much worse. something is usually better than nothing, and that goes for spank's mis-credit as bmore club as well Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: (313) On Topic and Topical: Baltimore Club DJ's tribute to Disco D
actually that is an Ann Arbor teen center that gets the donations. - Original Message From: kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:57:11 AM Subject: Re: (313) On Topic and Topical: Baltimore Club DJ's tribute to Disco D You're right, I posted too quick. Newsense is selling the mix CD on Ebay with proceeds going to a Baltimore teen center. If you're interested in bidding: http://tinyurl.com/3chf7k On 6/29/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't see no mix. > the link is to a 3.1 MB mp3 of "whores in the house", good one. typical > bmore, it's kinda messy and spastic and super tracky. the claps are really > nice. but again, expecting this stuff to be a mainstream hit instead of spank > well... > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: (313) Justice
> > and > > it's still not really about bmore. they are bringing attention to the > > music. they shouldn't? > not in this disingenuous manner. Thomas, I really really hear you on a lot of what you are saying in your email, and yes, there's a twisted element at the core of American pop culture where we've seen it over and over and over again. but I guess I just don't get what *would* be a genuine way of calling attention to the music? (in contrast to "this disingenuous manner"). Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: (313) Justice finale??
> i think all the issues we've been talking about relate equally as much to > detroit techno, no? just replace "spank rock" with "ritchie hawtin", > "technics" with "mike banks", and "bmore" with "detroit", et voila thanx for that. in my last post I was tempted to mention "Disco D" and "DJ Assault" to that effect as well. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Re: (313) Justice
fine but my point was in terms of money - I would have not sent what I did into the hands of DJ Technics, Rod Lee, etc if it wasn't for the Hollertronix mix that put their stuff in my ears. those guys got paid more money then that might have if it weren't for the youngsters propagation of it. but then, maybe that mix made hollertronix more dough than the DJs saw right? well that's a classic debate about djs vs producers right there anyway. - Original Message > > sure, people can get involved with good music from "entry level" > stuff, but how many more just stay into nonsense? if 10,000 people in > the US were chem bros fans, how many of them went on to become techno > or house fans vs how many went on to become trance and progressive > fans? i think its always best to give people the good stuff and let > them decide from that. people are inherently lazy, and especially when > its hard to find good info about something as underground as club > music or the like out there, it makes it increasingly unlikely that > people will go from liking the corny stuff to supporting the good > stuff. Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: (313) Justice
I hear you about that problem, and again, this is part and parcel to the appropriation issue. but - again, personal anecdote here - I've purchased a lot of baltimore club 12"s at this point, but a few years back I'd never heard of it. What exposed me to it? (I live on the west coast, b.t.w.) the Hollertronix mix: "Never Scared". Before I had garnered an appreciation for Detroit techno... what stuff did I come across that piqued my interested in electronic music in general? Honestly I'm embarrassed to name the acts but, all "cross-over" stuff where they were appropriating. Same with the route I took in my long winding education of hip hop culture. Believe me, my experience in appreciating African-American music culture as a whole has given me DEEP pause in considering "the Elvis" effect. Is that white guilt? I'm loath to think so. I'm just grateful - whatever the path taken - that I've been exposed to some phenomenal music and culture that I love. SO: when I we have a "modern rock" station out here that will play hip hop every once and a while, but when they do... IT'S THE BEASTIE BOYS! yeah, I wince a little... its kinda messed up no doubt. but then, who knows, maybe there were be some people that get exposed to it, and then that's just a starting point for a whole world that's opened up. I wonder: could I be the only fan of Derrick May that at one point enjoyed listening to Exit Planet Dust? - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:29:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/28/07, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, yes but... I was being heavy handedly sarcastic. but now you bring > money into it... my whole problem is that these guys that i dont like are taking money, exposure, popularity, and credit from the people who really deserve it. which is part of the reason im so angry about it. if the deserving people get hooked up with all of that, someone might actually be doing something right. but one remix isnt enough! tom Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Re: (313) Justice
well, yes but... I was being heavy handedly sarcastic. but now you bring money into it... - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:19:29 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/28/07, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm so shocked and disappointed that a serious, real artist such as DJ Funk > (from a > genuine place like Chicago) would pander to working with such transparent and > vapid > scenesters as Justice (from Paris no less... what the hell do they know about > culture > anyway?) their money spends as well as anyone else's. and its good that someone with some actual place to make money from such music is getting it instead of the other jokers they have on there. tom Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: (313) Justice
I'm so shocked and disappointed that a serious, real artist such as DJ Funk (from a genuine place like Chicago) would pander to working with such transparent and vapid scenesters as Justice (from Paris no less... what the hell do they know about culture anyway?) - Original Message From: Carlos de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:55:45 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice speaking of dj funk: in an interview (for those who understand german: http://www.de-bug.de/texte/4588.html, quite funny read...) he says that he's going to release stuff on ed banger. as far as i know there's only a remix for justice's "waters of nazareth" so far. oh, back on topic. if you wanna see him and the ed banger posse clowning check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrLxDZeqiw0 (even if don't dig the music, you have to give respect for the raw energy in that room, hilarious) c* > Contrast what he does with, for example, DJ Funk. I know Chuck a > little -- he's played here several times, and I spent one very weird > night driving him around town. Nice enough guy. Funk is very much an > authentic proponent of Booty House. But his show consists of mixing > between two CDRs in Pioneer CD decks, and him jumping around and > clowning. People seem to like it, but as far as a musical performance > goes, give me Tittsworth any day. Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: (313) Justice
>you can add your own influence to something else. hiphop culture is >all over the globe now, and it has been mutated and added on to. i >personally think all of this stuff sucks, but at least it is being >done by people who live that culture as best as it is done in their >country. spank rock and t&a live down the street, theyre spectators to >a culture they then represent. >it wouldnt matter if they were purple if they were down with the >culture. but theyre not so it doesnt matter. so how are they *not* down with the culture? What would they be doing differently if they were down with the culture? I always always got the impression from the early hollertronix/the rub/moneystudies/et all that their whole vibe was "we're not you guys, but we're *down* with what you are doing" (with respect to the baltimore producers and such). Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: (313) Justice
its a classic debate here, ain't it? Elvis, or the Beatles and the Rolling Stones with respect to Rock & Roll and the Blues, Little Richard, etc. (or even Beastie Boys, Eminem, etc?) I agree with J.T. comment about blame society not the artist. if an artists work reflects influence of something they genuinely admire... can they help it if they get popular? Was it Elvis's fault he was white? - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:10:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's all cultural politics, which concerns me, but it's beside the fact of > whether the > music is good or not, and while i can't say it doesn't affect my opinion of > music if i know > the backstory etc, i don't think it should. its not cultural politics, its whats right and whats wrong. > elvis was just trying to make some music he loved, he wasn't trying to steal > black music, > and he didn't sound just like black music. he can't help it that white > america loved his > music, what was he supposed to do, say "thanks anyway, but keep your money > i'd rather > be a starving artist"? or should he have just stuck to making white music and > minded his > place? that's a real narrow view and we wouldn't have a lot of great musical > styles if > people did that. he should have said "this is wrong, i am not the king of rock and roll, this is all nonsense, these are the people who made this music, they should be getting paid and be popular". obviously, he never did anything of the sort. he was all too happy to continue the bamboozlement because it put cash in his pocket. which is why i dont give a sh*t about elvis. > if everybody thought like that, people would have dismissed techno > (ahem) as just some black guys trying to sound like german guys. but thats obviously not true. > or how about > convextion, he's not black, and he's not from detroit so? was he trying to white wash a sound to make it popular for people who are outside of its usual audience? obviously you fall into the same category, you come from this culture, you make the music. there's no problem with that. > if you're going to get all political about music, don't blame the artists, > blame society. but the artists are the ones who control how they are marketed and who their crowds are and what the perception of their music is. its possible to do it the right way without being a bullsh*t artist. > i > didn't even know ayres was white and i think it has f*ckall to do with > whether he's a good > dj or not, nor do i think the fact that he's popular while the "original" > guys aren't has > anything to do with how his music sounds. his music is a joke, that has nothing to do with why i dont like these other aspects of it. but the fact that people equate his joke music to club music is what really irritates me. > besides, like rob g says, spank and ayres etc have their own sound, they're > not just > imitators. no, theyre selling an image of that music to people who peddle in irony instead of good music. its even worse than being an imitator IMO. > who cares? music is what it is, i don't care who's playing it or how much > street cred it > has if i really like it. street cred? what are you talking about? all music is part of a culture that shapes the sounds. if someone is not part of that culture and just jacks the sounds, theyre just pirates. which is what titface and whatshisname do. music is not just some notes played on an instrument, there's a reason for each note and each rhythm. > if i don't like it i am more likely to focus on all these things you are, > but it's nonsense really, nothing to do with the actual aesthetics of music. i cant disagree more. watered down crap isnt going to sound as good as the stuff its ripping off, it never does. maybe if youve never heard the real stuff, knock offs sound okay. > i don't like el-p > because i don't like his voice or his flow, not because he's white and didn't > grow up in > bed-stuy and doesn't get played by [blank] i like el-p's beats because he came from hiphop culture and his audience is a hiphop audience. i dont like his rhyming because it is weak. that is different from why i dont like someone like tithead and whatever or spank rock. sh*t, what they do could be being done solely by black artists and i would still think it was just as weak. of course i dont think its a coincidence that these kinds of things are almost always perpetrated by white "artists". tom Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: (313) Justice
yeah... maybe its a purist thing I guess. and for myself I do collect the baltimore club stuff with I suppose a purist mindset sort of too... I definitely get the spank rock / tittsworth / Ayres / bamabounce stuff but see it as a different creature (offspring) of sorts. b.t.w. on the "you don't see the baltimore guys playing their stuff" comment from someone... there's the Johnny Blaze remix of Diplo's "Way More" on dip's website. maybe an isolated example but its something. - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:24:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/27/07, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mean, on this board is anyone here still got beef with people in the UK > becoming fans of hey-day late 80's techno from Detroit and Chicago... and > (fake gasp) making their own takes on those styles? i have no beef, but as with UK emcees and the like, i find it pretty telling that my collection is 95% US records. nothing is better than the real thing. tom Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: (313) Justice
Hi - lurker here - isn't this simply called "appropriation"? And I don't even mean that in any specific racial context, since I think you could frame it in terms of generation or even just in terms of "scenes". but anyway, yeah, Spankrock and supposed "white scenesters" are doing their thing and showing influence from a sound that they're genuinely fans of. And I think that is the correct characterization of it too: They are definitely not ripping it off or watering it down - but taking (and what they're taking is basically summed up by the ubiquitous break beat and sample-looping style) and adding to it a lot of different other elements from electro, freestyle, miami bass, drum and bass (esp. w/ tittsworth), and even UK garage styles. I mean, on this board is anyone here still got beef with people in the UK becoming fans of hey-day late 80's techno from Detroit and Chicago... and (fake gasp) making their own takes on those styles? I think its a pollination from the winds effect ... a natural force (or component or effect) of culture... what's the problem?! - Original Message From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:56:59 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dunno man, sometimes it's unfair to blame the artist. blame the > hypemachine(s). > everything i've read about him is very humble and straightforward -- and > doesn't even > mention bmore. it's all nyc...i dunno. other bmore stuff can blow up in it's > own right, i don't > see that ayres and spank are holding anybody down, unless they really did > steal > someone else's sound straight up...but i don't hear that, at least not with > what i've heard... its not about straight up stealing a sound, its about getting popular with a watered down version of something that isnt even his to water down. theyre the elvises of club music. > i mean technics and a bunch of other bmore guys are all up in the soundtrack > to The > Wire and i thought they had some major record deals stemming from that? they > are > definitely representing bmore in that show at least, which is a pretty big > deal... yeah, they also reference it in dialogue as well, which is really dope. the guys who make that show go out of their way to make sure that they represent baltimore properly. > i don't hear it that way. their music is a joke, but that doesn't mean the > music they are > influenced by is, or that their music isn't still good. see pubahs at least pubah's was still getting play from real ghetto and electro deejays in detroit. ive never seen or heard of one of the real bmore deejays dropping spankrock tunes. > you probably will hear some bad stuff and get turned off...they're all like > 17-19 years old, > max. and they are hot on mtv etc. still, i approve. if you don't like too > short, you probably > won't like this either tho (lyrics are cleaner, but the rest is too short > evolved...) im down with some shorty the pimp. tom Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
(313) XLR8R TV: Soul Skate ’07
http://www.xlr8r.com/topstories/2007/06/xlr8r_tv_episode_12_soul_skate.php "XLR8R TV's Brianna Pope heads to the best party at this year's Detroit Electronic Music Festival–Soul Skate '07–to get the real dirt on Detroit rollerskating. The reclusive, legendary Detroit DJ/producer Kenny Dixon, Jr. (a.k.a. Moodymann) hosted the night, which brought out not only loyal Detroit music fans, but also lifelong Motown skaters who don't mess around when it comes to serious roller parties. Rock, skate, roll, bounce!" Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: (313) Link : First Link Ep - Reissue or bootleg?
its a clone reissue like the first three eps of the same label. hopefully theres gonna be more ;) On 4/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ?
Re: (313) redshape live set
http://ra.ratm.net/RA051_070402_Redshape-residentadvisor.net.mp3 direct link for those who dont have a residentadvisor account
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(313) ( bsp) mix: deep house, melodic techno, much detroit
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Re: Re: (313) Subject Detroit Volume 3 Mix CD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/12/2005, 05:52:53 PM: > > >or maybe it's three. but who's counting. ;) > > Hey Garret! > > You know, as soon as I posted that I did wonder if that was you! > > But then your 2nd name doesn't come on the emails. sometimes it doesn't come at all, depending on where i am. slippery little bugger. ;- Aaron-Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/12/2005, 06:20:10 PM: > Hey now... don't forget about lil' ol' ME! Hahahaha... I'm a list > member too! :-) nice to see you Aaron ;) your track and the Stephen Brown track are really the standouts IMO. beautiful stuff.
Re: Re: (313) New Bone
fantastic jerky bouncy is a much better description =) along the same lines, surprised more ppl haven't mentioned Encounter 1. "Black (Our Brothers)" will get you moving sideways as well. You also have Sub10 to look forward to. different, really nice. Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/24/2005, 10:34:35 PM: > It's not wonky wonk, but it's darn fine Detroit wonky - +4 and it shakes > your ass... > > There's a mix going up on LD this week with Body Bag in...stay tuned... > > Love it... > > m > > - Original Message - > From: "Stoddard, Kamal" > To: "'Martin Dust'" > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:18 PM > Subject: RE: (313) New Bone > > > > Anything even approximating a clip of these anywhere on earth? BONE doing > > wonky? **drl** > > > > > > Kamal K. Stoddard > > Turner Broadcasting Systems > > > > > > ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 > > year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to > > piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. ** > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:56 PM > >> To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: (313) New Bone > >> > >> Holy smoke this is some hot wax > >> > >> Longevity 3 picks up where Knowhere left off... > >> > >> Body Bags will destroy dance floors, fantastic jerky, bouncy > >> number - dare I say Bone doing wonky - hot hot hot - loving > >> it...buy or steal on sight... > >> > >> M > >> > >> > > > >
Re: Re: (313) Coming to LA
well let's see since i haven't bought a record in an actual store in god knows how long, this info might be outdated. however, for music i would recommend Amoeba on Sunset @ Cahuenga, This Is Music on Melrose, and Vinyl Fetish on Vermont in the Los Feliz area. I think there's a Vinyl Fetish on Melrose as well but i aint never been thar. Music equipment: definitely Black Market Music on La Cienega, West Hollywood. It's a used gear place but almost always home to some unusual find; great place to browse. West LA Music, on Santa Monica Blvd in (you guessed it) West LA. Excellent place for new stuff, good people. Know the price of whatever you're shopping for before you go in and they'll match it. And if you're feeling very motivated, Big City Music (bigcitymusic.com) in Studio City has a lot of analog and unusual stuff. seeing as i'm a lot more irish than greg is scottish, there's lots of places to celebrate alcoholism but i'm sure you won't have any trouble finding bars. clubs nearly all suck. and that also depends on where you're staying. LA is not what you'd call small. -garrett Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/17/2005, 08:12:04 PM: > Hey Gregg- yah we are coming over for NAMM- me and Wilba (who is the > owner of Rubadub)- excellent work on the party info- thanks a lot- I'm > sure we'll make enough trouble of our own at these places anyway! > Maybe we could meet up for a beer (or whiskey as you are 1/8th > Scottish!)?? > > thanks again > > Jason > > > On 17 Jan 2005, at 17:09, Greg Earle wrote: > > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 9:20 PM BST, Jason Brunton > > wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:20:09 + > >> To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> From: Jason Brunton > >> Subject: Coming to LA > >> Message-Id: > >> > >> Hi again, > >> > >> going off to Los Angeles on business next week - will be in town for > >> a week - any suggestions for sightseeing/fun and some music tips > >> (record shops, music equipment shops, bars, clubs, good places to get > >> into trouble etc.) would be much appreciated > > > > Are you coming here for NAMM, Jason? (Anyone else?) > > > > When you say "next week", when do you arrive exactly? > > > > I'll defer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the record shops, > > music equipment shops, bars and - especially - good places to get > > into trouble (we could all go to an ex-pat Brit pub in Santa Monica > > and taunt the English; I'm 1/8th Scottish ;) ) but here's some > > gig info. > >
Re: Re: Re: (313) These Go up to 11
Matt Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/11/2004, 07:40:34 PM: > At 01:08 PM 11/11/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Surgeon - Midnight Club Tracks 2 > > I didn't know there was a second one. I would say that Surgeon - Midnight > Club Tracks 1 (B2) sounds AWESOME on a big rig, especially when you get to > blow away trance DJS with it :) mct2 is nearly (but not exactly) a mash-up of all the Counterbalance releases that preceded it. deadly.
Re: Re: (313) These Go up to 11
Dennis DeSantis wrote:
> Theorem - "Embed"
who? ;) actually, yeah, i'd love to hear that stuff on a good system.
and there were some mp3 only tracks several years ago ('98?) that i'd
also love to hear. Swarm was one of them.
one the other side of the coin...
Paul Damage - The Running Machine
Speedy J - Pure Energy
Surgeon - Midnight Club Tracks 2
Inigo Kennedy - Five Ways To Move
Archae & Grovskopa - Surface Distortion
Carl Craig - At Les
Jeff Mills - Spider Formation
Re: (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit
damn.. and here i thought this thread was going to be about Cristian Vogel vs. certain people in Detroit ;) "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/10/2004, 10:44:54 PM: > Okay, > So I kind of slept on Super Conductor originally and for some reason have > decided to give their albums another listen, and... actually that stuff > totally blows me away! It's amazing... > > So I was thinking, what would be really really hot, would be if Cristian > Vogel produced: > 1. An Amp Fiddler album > 2. A Prince album > 3. Something with Blake Baxter talking on the top > > What does everyone think? > > I guess he is producing (or already did) the new Chicks on Speed as well, > which sounds like it could be very interesting. Maybe this is already out on > promo? > > ~David
Re: Re: (313) John Peel
i knew Greg would say it well, so i'll leave it at that. ironically, we talked about that Sonar experience not too long ago. i'm sorry you won't get that second chance as well. what a tragic, shocking loss. to call him a legend, in his own or any time, is nearly a disservice. has anyone done more for music in general, across as many genres, so faithfully? it's hard to imagine. i hope he is recognized by the state. both in saying farewell and also in some sort of lasting memorial. a fund, scholarship, street, program... something fitting. he more than deserves it. Garrett Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/26/2004, 07:34:21 PM: > Oh my God. I'm staggered beyond all belief. > > In the last 20 years I've had little trouble walking up to most any > famous performer, DJ, band, whathaveyou, that I wanted to meet - > either because they seemed like interesting people or simply > because I respected their musical talent and wanted to say thanks - > as it's been easy to rationalize (hey, they all put their pants on one > leg at a time, just like me - and, as I've gotten older, invariably > they're all younger than I am, which helps). > > Except for John Peel. > > At Sonar last year I saw him standing around in SonarVillage > and I kept trying to get up the nerve to go shake his hand. > > I was too intimidated. Not by his presence - he seems jovial > and approachable enough in person - but for an old fart like me, > the man is simply a God among men. Back in the Punk days when you > were lucky to get a beaten-up 6-8 week old copy of the NME in your > local (US) record shop, the man and his playlists (and his end > of the year Festive 50 lists) and of course the Peel Sessions > were an absolute godsend to an overseas Punk fanatic. > > I told myself that if I saw him at Sonar next time 'round that > I'd right the wrong and go up to him this time. Now I'll never > get that chance. > > I see that Tony Blair chimed in with his 2p - do the right thing, > Tony, give this man a state funeral. Few Britons over the last > 35 years have been as important as this man was - to this overseas > observer, anyway. > > - Greg
Re: (313) Sonar 2004: It Rocked!!!!!
"Williams, Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/24/2004, 12:20:12 AM: > Massive Attack Sonar Nite Saturday > > Boring Boring Boring enough said that's pretty darn hard to believe!
Re: Re: (313) jay denham / oscar mulero
Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/27/2004, 20:47:03: > On Feb 27, 2004, at 2:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i've seen posters here in utrecht of an upcoming night with both jay > > denham (related to R. Denham?) and oscar mulero. > > never heard denham play, but liked quite a lot of his early > > work, haven't really been paying attention to his work after > > 'synthesised society', and never heard anything by mulero, > > except a lot of praise from fans. so is this worth getting > > out of bed for? > > I have a 3-hour Oscar Mulero mix set - "Live at Xcess > Profiles - Las Palmas (04-10-2003)" - it's badass. Try > finding it on SoulSeek. > > Not all "looped bangers" by any stretch. I'd go see him > in a heartbeat. (There *are* a fair amount of "looped > bangers" in there, but it's not like it's 3 hours' worth.) > > I can't even believe you're thinking of passing that > show up, Jurren! :) > > - Greg (who wonders why they name clubs in Rotterdam > after cities in the Canary Islands) oscar is a very very very good dj
(313) Subject: Statik: powerfm.org: Sundays
Statik {electro, electronica, techno, eclectic}
http://www.powerfm.org
Sunday night 1-3 GMT (Really monday morning)
8-10 PM EST
Brendan Gregoriy {Chymera} Top 10 - Jan 2004
1. Sterac Electronics - Keep on Running {Music Man}
Cracking deep electro with hints of Kate Bush "Running
up that hill". Our man in amsterdam proves once again
his superiority at constructing deep, minimal emotive
grooves.
2. Kelley Polar Quartet - Recital EP {Environ}
Lush strings and vocals on this excellent EP straight
out of Detroit.
3. Jens Harke - Eigenrauch {Kompakt}
Driving peaktime techno with the trademark Kompakt
sound
4. Mas 2008 - Push The Button {Electronic Corporation}
Swirling analog basslined electro with an infectious
groove. Nice
5. Stuff Records Sampler - Stuff001 {Stuff}
6 tracks ranging from electro to hip hop to
electronica. Promising start for this label.
6. Margate Fly - Losing My Vicinity
{Sprungcartellwachs}
Razor sharp percussive hits and a crisp electro beat
combined with motorcity strings.
7. Basic Bastard - Cruising {Ignitor}
Orlando Voorn back again with his signature funk and
intense melodies.
8. Tim Xavier - EightDub Sac {Trakstars}
Tough, noodly and distinct bassline on the A-side
9. Danza Blanca - White {Danza Electronica}
Housey Spanish guitar madness from Tony Rios.
10. Chymera - Your own way {White}
Cheeky Fleetwood Mac sampling techno. :P
Regards,
Bren.
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(313) PowerFM : Tracklist :Brendan Gregoriy (Chymera)
After an extended hiatus from the airwaves, PowerFM.org is finally back, albeit only on Webcast. Every Sunday night i'll be playing a varied selection of Techno, Electro, Electronica and eclectic. Here follows the tracklist from last night's show. Tune in (log on) next Sunday night 1-3 GMT(monday morning really). That's 8 - 10 PM EST Sunday night for all across the pond. http://www.powerfm.org ** Last nights tunes: orlando voorn presents maniax traxx - malfunction (R&S) Sven Vath - Pathfinder (coccoon) STR with tim tycoon -second wish (pocketgame) Lab insect - depraved girls (elektrofon) michael mayer - privat (kompakt) the rapture -sister saviour (black strobe remix) (output) data sink - flow (scape one remix) satamile Biochip C - go bang (jaackal and hydes hydraulic bass overhaul) (force inc) Reese - inside out (fragile) kananga - oh yeah (booty mix) (white) Dj sneak - The lights part 1 (relief) Analog fingerprints - Roots (Pigna) E dancer - heavenly (KMS) christian kreuz - koks and prada (tobu neumann remix) disko B Fix - Diligent (ignitor) deetron - miss suave (intec) Millimetric - Goodlife 16 (white) raiders of the lost arp - Highway( passarani remix) Nature Dave Clarke - Deo Gratis (skint) the streets - turn the page (locked on) The martian - tobacco ties (red planet) splitloop - klaxx (sinister) stefan schrom - tanz voyeur (boxer sport) massimo - checkpoint (artform) danilo vigorito - evolution funk 1 (frozen) the clash - rock the casbah (epic) player- 13 (infamous player) Jens Harke - eigenrauch (kompakt) Black Strobe - innerstrings (original mix) output Black Strobe - innerstrings(no shuffle mix) output Ferenc - Yes sir, I can hardcore (Michael mayer remix) (Nitsa) Ingacio - Organa (music man) Heiko Laux - Ornaments resynthesized (kanzleramt) A hundred birds - Jaguar (stringapella) (wave) Dj Rolando - Aguila (Fix mix) UR The Police -King of pain (A+M) The doors - People are strange (elektra) Depeche Mode - Shake the disease (mute) Robotman - visions of utopia (PIAS) my mine - hypnotic tango (radius reissue) Derrick May - Strings of life (Dance train reissues) ** Peace! Bren. Chymera -- Brendan Gregoriy CS Supervisor Sportingbet Ireland. ICQ: 158866878 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** IMPORTANT NOTICE:** This transmission has been issued by a member of Sportingbet Ireland for the information of the addressee only. It may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged and should not be reproduced and/or distributed to any other person without the consent of SBI. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. E-mails are susceptible to data corruption, interception, falsification, delay, unauthorised amendment and viruses. SBI does not accept liability for any such events or any consequences there of in respect of e-mails sent, or received, by us and whilst we have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. In circumstances where the content of this transmission is important you should not rely on its integrity without verifying it by telephone or facsimile. Any communications transmitted by telephone, facsimile and e-mail to, or by, you may be accessed, recorded, monitored and/or made available to SBI.
(313) Techno in Costa Rica?
I'm going on holiday in the new year to Costa Rica, staying mostly in San Jose. Is there a techno scene in Costa Rica at all? If not, what is the music scene like? I'd appreciate any help that anyone could give me on this. Regards, Bren. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 158866878 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** IMPORTANT NOTICE:** This transmission has been issued by a member of Sportingbet Ireland for the information of the addressee only. It may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged and should not be reproduced and/or distributed to any other person without the consent of SBI. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. E-mails are susceptible to data corruption, interception, falsification, delay, unauthorised amendment and viruses. SBI does not accept liability for any such events or any consequences there of in respect of e-mails sent, or received, by us and whilst we have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. In circumstances where the content of this transmission is important you should not rely on its integrity without verifying it by telephone or facsimile. Any communications transmitted by telephone, facsimile and e-mail to, or by, you may be accessed, recorded, monitored and/or made available to SBI.
Re: (313) Nost - was test
>yeah! that Nost EP on force inc is one of my favs so far on 2003 its actually David Donohue that is behind Nost. Great stuff alright. Regards, Bren. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Rob Theakston wrote: > Test- ignore please. > > Or don't. > > Dennis Donohue rules. > > That is all. > > > Regards, Bren. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 158866878 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** IMPORTANT NOTICE:** This transmission has been issued by a member of Sportingbet Ireland for the information of the addressee only. It may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged and should not be reproduced and/or distributed to any other person without the consent of SBI. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. E-mails are susceptible to data corruption, interception, falsification, delay, unauthorised amendment and viruses. SBI does not accept liability for any such events or any consequences there of in respect of e-mails sent, or received, by us and whilst we have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. In circumstances where the content of this transmission is important you should not rely on its integrity without verifying it by telephone or facsimile. Any communications transmitted by telephone, facsimile and e-mail to, or by, you may be accessed, recorded, monitored and/or made available to SBI.
(313) New records (for me)
I'm a bit behind on discussions of new music on this list because it usually take that bit longer to get to us here in Ireland. What do people think of the Red planet- Pipecarrier EP, (think that's what its called anyway, i'm not the best with names) I'm really liking side A of this... lovely, almost 70's sounding strings and melody. Something really quirky about it. Got Aguila as well last week, and I think the Fix mix is great, but I reckon I will mix out shortly after the beat comes in. Also picked up the agitator, and I think its excellent as well. Regards, Bren. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 158866878 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** IMPORTANT NOTICE:** This transmission has been issued by a member of Sportingbet Ireland for the information of the addressee only. It may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged and should not be reproduced and/or distributed to any other person without the consent of SBI. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. E-mails are susceptible to data corruption, interception, falsification, delay, unauthorised amendment and viruses. SBI does not accept liability for any such events or any consequences there of in respect of e-mails sent, or received, by us and whilst we have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. In circumstances where the content of this transmission is important you should not rely on its integrity without verifying it by telephone or facsimile. Any communications transmitted by telephone, facsimile and e-mail to, or by, you may be accessed, recorded, monitored and/or made available to SBI.
(313) Re: lk / money doesn´t mean a thing
According to the liner notes on LK, the guitar is by a session guitarist, which would lead me to believe that it is original and dwele sampled it.. but I could be and most likely am wrong. Regards, Bren. Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:59:26 +0200 To: <313@hyperreal.org> From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?lk_/_money_doesn=B4t_mean_a_thing?= Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, did anyone else notice that "dwele - money doesn´t mean a thing" and "dj marky - lk" use the same samples? Wich song do they sample? Or did Dwele just sample Dj Marky? I find the new Dwele album a bit dissapointing though. Cheers, Maarten ** IMPORTANT NOTICE:** This transmission has been issued by a member of Sportingbet Ireland for the information of the addressee only. It may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged and should not be reproduced and/or distributed to any other person without the consent of SBI. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. E-mails are susceptible to data corruption, interception, falsification, delay, unauthorised amendment and viruses. SBI does not accept liability for any such events or any consequences there of in respect of e-mails sent, or received, by us and whilst we have taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses, we cannot accept any liability for any loss or damage sustained as a result of software viruses and would advise that you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. In circumstances where the content of this transmission is important you should not rely on its integrity without verifying it by telephone or facsimile. Any communications transmitted by telephone, facsimile and e-mail to, or by, you may be accessed, recorded, monitored and/or made available to SBI.
Re: (313) Every Dog 4
- Original Message - From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Every Dog 4 > I think the problem with hard techno is that it just isn't done with a very creative sense of track selection and feel, and many DJ sets just don't cut it. I think it is a problem with the record selection and a lack of creativity on the part of hard techno DJs who are content to follow a formula, and simply get paid. I only really like about 25% or less of the more banging techno sets I listen to. > a lot of people will probably barf all over this statement but i think one of the toughest things to do is play a well programmed hard techno set.
Re: (313) Every Dog 4
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Today I can't really tell the difference between most of these artists > anymore - they should just all get together and be one big Swedish Super > Group and play one big f*ck off kick drum loop and then go off and try > something different for a change. ;) > > MEK beyer is working on it. check out the ignition key album and/or any of the other things about to come out on truesoul. http://www.truesoulrecords.com/ (the henrik b album advertised there is ambient)
Re: (313) Every (Swedish Techno Record Is A) Dog
> >I was just stating an observation. > > > >To answer your question my only objection to the criticism of "Swedish > >techno" for example, is the generalization of a country's techno movement > >without being specific about an artist or label. > > But surely everybody knows that all Swedish techno is bad, regardless of > artist or label?!? > definitely. especially that aril guy.
Re: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ???
my pleasure ;) it's been sold out since a few days after i mentioned it here, which was... 2 weeks ago? maybe 3. it's nicely done, as mark said. apparently there is a cd version as well, but i've only heard rumor of that. can't confirm. - Original Message - From: "Mark S. Krüx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ??? > Yeah it's basically a 20 minute or so master-mix of Axis, Purposemaker and > Tomorrow material split in half...half on the a side and the other half on > the b sideand then pressed on wax... > > I quite like the way it's programmed. > > It's a white label as Kookie has already pointed out. > > Cheers to Garrett for the heads-up:) > > Peace, > > m* > - Original Message - > From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 PM > Subject: RE: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ??? > > > > It's similar to the scion : arrange basic tracks, except the samples came > from lifelike + and another mills album. can't think of the name now... > > mark krux has it.. maybe he'll chime in. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:48 PM > To: 313 Mailing List > Subject: (313) Claude Young-Thoughts of Phutura / AXIS 033 ??? > > > Anybody has any infos on that release? > > Claude Young - Thoughts of Phutura / Axis 033 > > I found that in the Axis homepage online shop and it's sold out. there > seem to exist only 100 copies > Does anybody know what's up with that? > > Claude Young the first artist than Jeff Mills (and Rob Hood formerly) on > Axis? Whew! I want to hear that > > Infos please! > > > Cheers, Arne > > P.S.: The new Every dog has it's day part 4 is excellent by the way! > > -- > °°° > www.arneweinberg.de > KEYNOTE Rec. > DOWN LOW MUSIC > STARBABY Rec. > NATIVE Rec. > °°°
Re: (313) iPod pictures (that work)
> > Yes, this confused my friends when they went to see him at The End. They > > thought he hadn't turned up until someone pointed out it was him. 'Dodgy' > > haircut was how they described it & no trademark specs any more. > > > > the minus website said something about this last month. > couldn't find it now. though http://www.m-nus.com/index_from_ipod.html go to "R"
Re: (313) Movement Membership?
> I got this weird email thing from Remix magazine talking about Movement > 2003: DEMF (which right away had me a bit miffed as to why they added the > DEMF thing at the end) > isn't the official name 'Movement 2003: Detroit's Electronic Music Festival'?
Re: (313) iPod pictures (that work)
a decade of shaving your head probably gets old after a while... - Original Message - From: "ian cheshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: RE: (313) iPod pictures (that work) > tragic is the word that springs to mind, he should keep his > baldness, I think as it suits him better :) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 May 2003 12:53 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: ian cheshire; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) iPod pictures (that work) > > > > Yes, this confused my friends when they went to see him at The End. They > thought he hadn't turned up until someone pointed out it was him. 'Dodgy' > haircut was how they described it & no trademark specs any more. > > > > > robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/05/2003 12:24:19 > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: ian cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) iPod pictures (that work) > > > > > erm sorry to be a pain but does Richie now have hair or something? > > possibly, tho it looks like he's borrowed sven vath's barnet for the night > > :) > > robin... > > > > > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/03
Re: (313) art of dance website
site's been like that forever... but maybe he's still using it to some degree, to shop around the record(s). - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: (313) art of dance website > http://www.artofdancerecords.com/ > > it's not up yet except for the place holder page - anyone know if this is > new? Kenny's still working the label then? That would be excellent news > \ > > MEK >
Re: (313) That Friday Question
> As far as hard techno, I think the few and far between (in the > US) who actually play that style reside on the G-tech list. > ha.. generally true.
Re: (313) plastikman font
prolly someone from Prince's company, since it looks so much like the 1999 cover.. which was 1983, just so everyone can groan about their age. - Original Message - From: "[-[-]-[]-[|]-]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) plastikman font > this font is widely available on the internet last time I checked. > > I hope whoever created it is getting paid > > > - Original Message - > From: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: (313) plastikman font > > > > I never really was a big fan of that design or the current > > design Plus 8 uses for it's label. > > > > My favorite Plus 8 label design would be the second one > > with + 8 at an angle and the list of cities > > encircled. > > A more technical/ industrial design approach works better > > for a techno label in my opinion. > > > > on 4/23/03 4:17 PM, Joseph Ross Lynn IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Off the list for a bit, nice to be back. > > > > > > Thought I'd share something I picked up last week. I was shopping at > PDQ in > > > Tuscon, Arizona, (an amazing place - if you're ever in the area, check > it out. > > > TONS of wax - all old stuff) and among the gems I found (inc mint French > Kiss > > > 12" on Arista(?)) was a record I picked up strictly for the cover art. > > > All writing was in the Plastikman font. Not a similar font, the exact > same > > > font, in the same red color. Even the "i" was dotted with the "plus 8" > ish > > > symbol. The funny thing is, the issue date was either 1988 or 89. > > > Anyone ever seen this before? > > > > > > The Artist: Confession > > > Title : I found my Love 12" > > > Label : Abfahrt (sp) > > > > > > The sound is Euro/club/trance as you might expect something from the > late 80s > > > to > > > sound. > > > > > > If you search the label (German) you can find it on the web and check > > > the cover out yourself. No link, though. Sorry. > > > > > > J. > > > > > > -- > >
Re: (313) plastikman font
http://www.abfahrt.com/html/high.html you can navigate to the discog page & see a pic of the cover. release #19. interesting. - Original Message - From: "Joseph Ross Lynn IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: (313) plastikman font > Off the list for a bit, nice to be back. > > Thought I'd share something I picked up last week. I was shopping at PDQ in > Tuscon, Arizona, (an amazing place - if you're ever in the area, check it out. > TONS of wax - all old stuff) and among the gems I found (inc mint French Kiss > 12" on Arista(?)) was a record I picked up strictly for the cover art. > All writing was in the Plastikman font. Not a similar font, the exact same > font, in the same red color. Even the "i" was dotted with the "plus 8" ish > symbol. The funny thing is, the issue date was either 1988 or 89. > Anyone ever seen this before? > > The Artist: Confession > Title : I found my Love 12" > Label : Abfahrt (sp) > > The sound is Euro/club/trance as you might expect something from the late 80s to > sound. > > If you search the label (German) you can find it on the web and check > the cover out yourself. No link, though. Sorry. > > J. > > -- > Knecht >
Re: (313) Soul seek
it's down at the moment - Original Message - From: "Jim Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: (313) Soul seek > I cant get soulseek to connect. What server should it be point at, sorry for > the ot.
Re: (313) Surgeon- John Peel
> Apparently it's only a 30-minute segment, but it's already floating around > on Soulseek in a higher-quality FM recording, and then there's this link > from the BBC: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/thisweek/20030407_peel.shtml#sess3 > > I hear the segment is quite a good one, although it would be hard not to be > since the whole damn set was superb. :) yep.. it's amazing. i've heard the entire set was jaw dropping. this segment includes a large piece of cbx09 (not out yet). sick breaky-industrial madness.
Re: (313) More great rumors I heard
you forgot the fact that those 2 guys who run Lafayette coney are finally gonna bust out that gansta rap routine they've been working on for the last 10 years. - Original Message - From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 9:29 AM Subject: (313) More great rumors I heard > > > Mike Banks is going be doing a live set of Motown Karaoke favorites > > Richie Hawtin will be doing a tag set with David Lee Roth. > > Dale Lawrence will be riding a donkey and wearing a sombrero travelling Hart > Plaza as Senor Hernandez, Mercenary at Large. Flat autographs: $5, > Everything else: $10 > > Carl Craig hates you all. > > Pole, everyone on Kompakt, Bea Arthur, Sam Valenti IV, Derek Plaslaiko, > Telefon Tel Aviv, Sharif and Vin Diesel will be battling it out in a 12 man > steel cage battle royale. > > Jeff Mills is secretly Emmanuel Lewis. > > Matt MacQueen was Uberbalisubramanian Smith. > > Theo Parrish is really Kenny Dixon in disguise. > > The Clock diner on Jefferson will be host to the drum and bass portion of > the festival. > > Guns and Roses will reunite one last time as the final act of the festival. > They'll be doing a rocking rendition of Strings of Life. > > Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen will be on site filming their latest movie: > Techno Rave Boy Madness. > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Rumors about demf
he is... that was a joke anyway On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 09:20 AM, ian cheshire wrote: each night? I think he may be at homelands on the 24th ? -Original Message- From: Matt Hellige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2003 17:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Rumors about demf Don't forget Jeff Mills live PA/DJ set for 6 hours EACH NIGHT on the main stage [Jim Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] let's see the rumors flying around right now: speedy j, kooky scientist, luomo, vladislav delay live john acquaviva, richie hawtin, luciano, dandyjack, sammy dee and zip speedy j, kooky scientist, john acquaviva, richie hawtin in one room sammy dee, luciano, zip and dandyjack in the other 5th floor of ponchartrain completely reserved for richie afterparty with rich, speedy j, sammy dee and zip speedy j, kooky scientist, richie hawtin and john acquaviva on the pool deck of the ponchartrain. pole live in the underground speedy j live in the underground which ones are true? i know do you? -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03
(313) also on the Axis site
in the Axis Shop is AX-33: Claude Young, Thoughts of Phutura. apparently it's a record Claude did at Jeff's request, using materials from the Axis, Tomorrow, and PM catalogs. limited to 100 copies.
(313) Mills @ DEMF
http://www.axisrecords.com/ -> Event Calendar
Re: (313) Surgeon on John Peel
someone PLEASE record this. - Original Message - From: "Sean Creen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: (313) Surgeon on John Peel > Slightly off topic I suppose, but since his set was discussed a bit last week, just a quick reminder that Surgeon's ATP set is being broadcast on John Peel's show tonight. > Should be available on www.bbc.co.uk for those not in the UK. > > Sean.
Re: (313) Mills on NSC
> The remixes are actually quite good - and any long time 313ers should cuckle > at the name of the brothers doing the remixing: > Tony and Unsel Brown > yeah i guess i laughed. tho really it was more of a groan.
Re: (313) vladislav delay intreview?
http://www.pitchadjust.com/article.php?article_id=1737 On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Ivan Tomasevic wrote: someone posted URL with Delay's interview but i've deleated it, so can someone post it again? thanks ivan --
Re: (313) being
gotta be Dave Being - Original Message - From: "Techstylism" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: (313) being > who made the Being 2CD (SE006 - Sabres of Paradise - 1995), anyone? > > //janos >
Re: (313) This Saturday (March 29) in Philly: Magda & Dennis DeSantis
should be a great party... both dennis and magda are reason enough to go individually. i wish we could get events like this here in LA. but in a city where 50 people came out to see christian smith & angel alanis a couple weeks ago, i bet there would be about 8 people to see these two. waaawawaw. i realize that for some places/people it's a draw, which is reason enough to mention it, but it still cracks me up when "Final Scratch set" is part of the bill. It's not like we put "Records" next to the other dj's names. ;) On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 07:28 AM, Cyhl wrote: This Saturday, March 29, in Philadelphia, Tuningspork and DreamlabRecords present: Magda (Final Scratch set) Dennis DeSantis (LIVE) with opening sets by Sean O'Neal (TuningSpork, Fuzzybox, 611) and Cyhl (DreamlabRecords, Bastardjazz) 9pm-2am @ SilkCity (5th & Spring Garden) 21+ $5 donation more info (artists' bios, flyer etc) at http://www.dreamlabrecords.com/032903.htm
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
On Monday, March 24, 2003 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Interesting observation, I thought there may be a generational divide among > DJs on Final Scratch, but I don't think there is. > For instance, I know Kevin Saunderson uses it, and is a fan, but then Marco > Bailey is not interested. > A few months ago when Francois K was out I asked him about it and he made > the interesting point that FS actually isn't that innovative in that it > doesn't really bring anything radically new to the culture, conceptually, > when that is in fact what dance music needs to evolve. on one level that's true; minus the digging through the hard drive rather than digging through the crates, you end up with the same experience. but where it does bring new things to the culture is in how you choose to use it. play a track that's an hour old (and may have originated anywhere on the globe), play your own personal remix of anything, have access to thousands of records rather than, at most, about 200 (and avoid breaking your back in the process), program your sets with great attention to the venue, mood, whatever... it does not radically change dj culture straight out of the box. but it does give djs a chance to radically change how they approach their work, which you could argue brings greater humanity to the whole process. > -- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor > >Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 6:28 PM > > > > > blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has > > nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you > > choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. > > > > the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so > > how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? > > > > On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? > >> There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away > >> with > >> vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his > >> statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit > >> area > >> and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about > >> blindly > >> embracing technological "advances" and more about the humanity behind > >> the > >> machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that > >> the > >> writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it > >> along > >> as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. > >> > >> I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it > >> degrades > >> into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. > >> > >> can opener in hand > >> MEK > >> > >
Re: (313) New Carl Craig Remix
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 06:51 PM, Phonopsia wrote: Not only heard of them, but worship them. The Sea and Cake are the best band in the world. Period. This is the truth and I am right. ;) They share the same drummer with Tortoise. He is called John McIntyre. He is the best drummer in the world. Period. ok, wildly off topic and genre, and i have no idea who this band is, but it's impossible that their drummer is the best in the world as that position is already held by Danny Carey, Tool's drummer. ;P)
Re: (313) Remix - letters to editor
blindly embracing anything prolly aint the best policy. but that has nothing to do with the fact that it's an advance. if it's not one you choose to utilize, great. no one's saying it's a requirement. the hardware and the skills required to dj are exactly the same -- so how does this detract from the human(ity) interface with the technology? On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see the newest issue of Remix magazine (Massive Attack cover)? There are a few reactions to Chris Cowie's statements about doing away with vinyl in favor of mp3s and Final Scratch. Not sure what issue his statements were in - however - one letter writer was from the Detroit area and mentioned how the philosophy behind techno music was less about blindly embracing technological "advances" and more about the humanity behind the machine. I still have the issue with the letter but not the issue that the writer was responding to. If anyone does have it could they pass it along as it seems Remix's website doesn't have it available. I'd like to hear other people's responses to this topic but if it degrades into a vinyl vs. Final Scratch argument then I'm bowing out. can opener in hand MEK
Re: (313) Si Begg, TubeJerk, Subhead - ALL LIVE - Sat 22.03.03, London
he seemed to understand the question just fine: On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 02:33 AM, kooks wrote: basically he is going to be doing a live set, in the style of his tracks on his noodles imprint (http://www.squat.com/noodles/), and play records over top parts of it. as far as i know, he hasn't done a set like this before (at least anytime recently) so i am not 100% sure what to expect - i just know it is gonna be good. everything si does is. On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 06:22 PM, ::)) wrote: could you elaborate a bit? what is what? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Si Begg, TubeJerk, Subhead - ALL LIVE - Sat 22.03.03, London On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 01:32 AM, kooks wrote: SI BEGG << rare interactive noodles dj-live set noodles, novamute what is this?
Re: (313) Si Begg, TubeJerk, Subhead - ALL LIVE - Sat 22.03.03, London
On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 01:32 AM, kooks wrote: SI BEGG << rare interactive noodles dj-live set noodles, novamute what is this?
Re: (313) i feel dub
yep - Original Message - From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: (313) i feel dub > Hi, > > I heard that Glenn Underground did a release on Prescription Records called > "i feel dub" (presription 31). Is the the same mix of "i feel love (cowley / > beloti / moroder / summer)" and "the chase (moroder)" that was released on > the bootleg copy LEG 1 in 1996? > > Thanks, > Maarten > > --- > name that tune... > http://www.morthenkiang.com/trainspotting.html
Re: (313) This Saturday @ The Detroit Techno Exhibit
great to see this. tim deserves all the credit you just gave him and more. plus, he's got that bitchen ride. ;p - Original Message - From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: (313) This Saturday @ The Detroit Techno Exhibit > > Hi there. > > Usually I don't post unless I'm being extremely sarcastic, cynical, bitter > or all of the above. But for a refreshing change of pace, I'd like to send > out this promotion. > > While he's really not known to many around the world as a prominent techno > figure, Tim Price has been the central nervous system of countless important > events that have been thrown in Detroit, and was crucial to the success of > the first D_MF. I'm sure if you've been around long enough in the scene > you've heard his name uttered once or twice, but Tim likes to stay in the > background about things and just do what he does best: throw killer events > and make a difference. He's a figurehead in the Detroit electronic music > community, but like the best of them...he's rarely seen or heard. > > He's worked with several record labels in the area. Plus 8, M_nus, KMS, > Planet E, and many others all have benefitted by Tim's hard work ethic, > unrivaled spirit and tireless dedication to the music scene. He's also > thrown events for a multitude of charitable causes; dedicating his time and > efforts when he could be producing something that could turn him a quick > profit. And on a more personal note, he's one of three people I consider a > true mentor, and I'm sure a few other people on here can testify to his > influence. > > Well, to sum this all up nicely... Tim is going to be participating in a > panel workshop/lecture this Saturday in conjunction with the Detroit > Historical Museum's Techno exhibit. The topics will be a broad range of > things involving the record industry. I don't know much more specifics than > this, but it's a good chance and a rare opportunity to see Tim talk about > what he does best. > > > The Detroit Historical Museum is located in Detroit's Cultural Center, on > Woodward Avenue at Kirby, two blocks North of Warren. > 5401 Woodward Avenue > Detroit, Michigan 48202 > 313.833.1805 > > Thanks. > > Rob
Re: (313) This Friday on the Mechanical Pulse (3-14-03)
time? - Original Message - From: "Rudy Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: (313) This Friday on the Mechanical Pulse (3-14-03) > > >This Friday we are being blessed with the presence > of Derek Plaslaiko, Mike Servito and crew. If you live > in or near the east lansing area you can listen at > 88.9 fm. Don't live close enough? Stream it online by > going to www.impact89fm.org and click 'listen live'. > Have a good week and remember to tune in! > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Kenny larkin strike back ;-)
Fyi, this should be a double album.. kenny vs. dark comedy. - Original Message - From: "fabrice Lig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: (313) Kenny larkin strike back ;-) > Just wanted to say that I heard some new material from Mr Kenny Larkin, > probably some tracks to become an album and...have to say (even if I'm a big > fan so maybe not the best guy to talk about that...) that what I heard is > amazing ! Some typical Larkin techno tracks but also some incredible down > beat soul/blues track who maked me thing of Saint Germain but more > electronic and more powerfull !!! > Can't wait to see that on CD/Vinyl > I don't know if he already found a label...I hope > Be aware guys... > > > Fabrice Lig > http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ > > > > > _ > MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! > http://search.fr.msn.be
Re: (313) confused
man... would you guys at Peacefrog get off your butts and release some music?? - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: (313) confused > I've no idea why PFG012 is down as Moodymann on Discogs. > It is actually Detroit Escalator Co 'Black Buildings'. > Discogs even have the right cover art for it so I'm confused! > > PF001 Pete the lodger -ghettos of the mind > PF002 > PF003 Coda The acid test > PF004 E3 E3 > PF005 > PF006 Lodger 303 EP > PF007 Solid State Quark EP > PF008 Luke Slater X Tront Vol1 > PF009 Apogee Tales From the Second moon (Dan Curtin) > PF010 X Crash 808 Terror > PF011x Luke Slater Sea serpent > PF011 Luke Slater X Tront Vol 2(LP/CD) > PF012 Planetary Asault Systems 1 > PF013 Stasis Circuit Funk > PF014 Sonar 123 Various > PF015 DBX Alien EP > PF016 Planetary Assault Systems 2 > PF017 The Other World Collective > PF018X Dan Curtin Parrallel > PF018 Dan Curtin The Silicon Dawn(LP/CD) > PF019 Luke Slater X Tront Vol 3 > PF020 Planetary Assault systems 3 > PF021 Krypton Factor Zolob 4 ( unreleased for the forseeable future ) > PF022 DBX Losing Control > PF023 Purveyors of fine funk Heights Trax Vol 1 > PF024 Dan Curtin Dream not of today > PF025 DBX losing control remixes(C.Craig R.Hood R.Hawtin > PF026 St. Vitus Dance come of age > PF027 Jack-Tronic The Hustler > PF028 Stasis Inspiration LP/CD > PF029 Planetary assault systems Planetary Funk Vol 4 > PF030 X-Track - Relay EP > PF031 Eddie Flashin Fowlkes- Stella 2 / Bust the Jam > PF032 Purveyors of fine funk - Heights tracks vol 2 > PF033 Insinc vs Mysteron Audiable illusion > PF034 Neil Landstrumm - index man EP > PF035 Dusk - Shadow Boxer > PF036 Neil Landstrumm - M-Cap ep > PF037 X-Trak No2 > PF038 Dan Curtin - The Web of Life LP/CD > PF039 Planetary Assault Systems - Archives LP/CD > PF040 Neil Landsstrumm - Brown by August LP/CD > PF041 Paul Johnson - Bump Talkin Lp/CD > PF042 Mystic Rythem - Track Relaxer > PF043 Glenn Underground - Atmosphear LP/CD > PF044 Neil Landstrumm - Inhabit the Machines > PF045 Wyndell long - EP > PF046 Stasis - from the old to the new > PF047 Tim Harper - I feel a groove > PF048 Stacey Kidd - Think of you > PF049 John Beltran - Ten days of blue LP/CD > PF050 Wyndell Long - EP 2 > PF051 Dan Curtin - Art + Science LP/CD > PF052 Maxwell House - LP > PF053 Deputy Dawg - Gun Slinger (L. Slater) > PF054 Glenn Underground - sea Quest > PF055 Paul Johnson - hear the music > PF056 Paul Johnson - Feel the Music > PF057 Planetary Assault Systems - Planetary Funk vol 5 > PF058 Purveyors of Fine Funk - 3 > PF059 Wamdue Kids - These branching moments > PF060 Chicago Underground Council EP > PF061 Gemini - Hibernation EP > PF062 > PF063 Planetary Assault Systems - The Electric Funk Machine > PF064 Purveyors of fine funk - please me ep > PF065 Gemini - On the North Star with Gemini > PF066 Glenn Underground - The Jerusulam EP¹s (LP/CD) > PF067 Maxwell House II (LP/CD) > PF068 luke slater `92-`94(early releases)lp/cd > PF069 placid angles -the cry lp/cd (john beltran) > PF070 gemini-lp/cd > PF071 Chris Brann lp/cd-Deepfall (Wamdue Kids) > PF072 Dan Curtin EP > PF073 Moodymann EP-limited edition (1000 only) > PF074 Moodymann lp/cd - mahogany brown > PF075 The Sunchildren EP > PF076 Theo Parrish - First floor- Double Pack / cd > PF077 Wayne Gardiner EP-Project 27 > PF078 Planetary Assault Systems - Voodoo EP > PF079 Planetary Assault Systems - The Drone Sector LP / CD > PF080 Roy Davis Jr - Electric soul / Someday ep > PF081 Planetary Assault Systems - Planetary funk vol.6 ep > PF082 Anthony Nicholson - Dance Anthology (double pack) > PF083 Ian O`Brien - Gigantic Days - LP / CD > PF084 LA Williams - tha sourcerer ep > PF085 David Alvarado - double pack > PF086 Ron Trent - In the spirit - ep > PF087 Landslide - ep > PF088 Roy Davis Jr - Soul Electrica lp/cd > PF089 Anthony Nicholson - Dance Anthology Pt 2 (double pack) plus CD > PF090 Underground Evolution - Primordial Passage lp/cd > PF091 David Alvarado - CD only release feat pf 075 & pf 085 > PF092 Ron Trent -Primitive Arts - triple lp/cd > PF093 Ian O¹Brien - EP > PF094 Josh Brent - EP > PF095 Moodymann lp/cd - Forevernevermore > PF096 Detroit Escalator Co -Double 10" and CD > PF097 Charles Webster LP - Born on the 24th of July > PF098 Charles Webster - Your Life - ep > PF099 Detroit Escalator Co -Excerpts lp /cd > PF100 Peacefrog Compilation 10:100 > PFG001 Planetary Assault Systems -Function 1 ep > PFG002 David Alvarado - Sunstone ep > PFG003 Moodymann - In my wagon ep > PFG004 Furry Phreaks - Want me like water ep > PFG005 Planetary Assault Systems - > PFG006 Furry Phreaks - Want me like water - the remixes. Double 12" & CD > PFG007 Planetary Assault Systems - Coad Warrior 3 ep > PFG008 Planetay Assault Systems - Atomic Funkster lp/cd > PFG009 Ian O'Brien - lp/cd > PFG
Re: (313) Surgeon - He is more than good
> >when a track of his is dropped, you know it's a Surgeon track. > > I dunno he and Ruskin sound fairly similar to me. I'm a fan of both but I > think I prefer Ruskin as a producer (I've not heard him DJ), that 'Into > Submission' doublepack is just awesome imho. > > Laters, > > m* i really like ruskin a lot as well, and comparisons probably aren't that relevant, but imo tony is head and shoulders above him in both production and djing.
Re: (313) Surgeon - How good is he?
absolutely one of my favorite djs. and dennis is right: if you're a fan of his productions, his dj sets are something special since he seems to often play different versions of his own stuff. anyone catch his peel session about 2 years ago? it was like a live PA, but with records. amazing. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Donohue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: RE: (313) Surgeon - How good is he? > I've seen Tony Childs a few times, and he ALWAYS brings it. Plays pretty > hard - MHS (that's what we call it), and if you're a fan of his production, > you're sure to have a grand time. He always has 15 - 20 remakes of his own > stuff, dubplates (the last time he used final scratch), and he's just a > really fun DJ to watch and dance to. > > Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:32 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Surgeon - How good is he? > > > > > > ** > Entertainment UK Limited > Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. > Registered in England Numbered 409775 > > This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and > may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any > opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the > official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message > from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or > disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. > ** > > I'm thinking of going to hear Surgeon DJ this w/e & was wondering what > peoples general opinion of him is. > > Has he got the skills? I'm seem to remember his style is what my mates call > 'ARMS' (i.e quite hard!) > > Cheers, > > G.
Re: (313) Ordering from Submerge
i've been waiting for at least 3 weeks. - Original Message - From: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: (313) Ordering from Submerge > Anyone know how long it usually takes for Submerge to contact you about shipping charges before the order goes thru? > > Thanks, > d
(313) speedyj : sweatboxer
(cross posted) > SWEATBOXER - Press Release > > April 29, 2003: Queensnight. The night before the Dutch Queens' > birthday, > and one of the most happening nights in Holland. > Queensnight always has been a great excuse for a party, but this year > promises to be legendary. It will see the launch of SWEATBOXER. > SWEATBOXER is a club experience contrived by Jochem Paap aka Speedy J > and > the origin of how this came to be is quite remarkable. To make this > clear, > it's probably better to let the man himself speak: > > PAST: > > After playing live over all over the world for 15 years, I assume I've > probably played under almost every kind of circumstances > From playing bubbling acid in murky loft parties on a 5 Watt karaoke > speaker, to playing banging techno for hours on huge dance events and > festivals with 100 rollercoasters, 40 stages and 512 DJs. > In most cases, these circumstances are far from ideal and it's > impossible to > say upfront if the event you will be playing at will be good or bad. > Elements like sound, venue, lights and line-up are all an important > part of > how a show will be experienced by the audience. > > Over the years I've worked with sound engineers, light engineers, VJs > etc., > in order to get some grip on these conditions. But there are always > things > you cannot control, ranging from a really bad P.A. , being dropped on > the > wrong stage at the wrong time or all of a sudden there's a guy in front > of > you doing his thing with balloons or torches while you're performing. > > But if the circumstances are right, everything (and everybody) comes > together. On a moment like that, everybody has the same experience. The > music is surprising and inspiring to both audience and artists. Even > the > slightest twist of the EQs will be noticed by the audience. In such an > environment, an artist is confident enough to experiment and take risks > and > the event can evolve into a very special experience. > > PRESENT: > > Last year, during a period of heavy touring, the idea of taking matters > in > my own hand started to develop. With the experience and contacts I > acquired > over the course of the years, I wanted to try to put on my own event > according to my own ideas and views. A club night, without trimmings and > with special attention to the things that matter: inspiring music, great > venue and the most important item: a no- compromise sound system. > > The perfect conditions for audience as well as artists. > > Together with an experienced promoter (Mojo) I started looking for these > conditions. Now we believe we've found them. Together they are > SWEATBOXER. > > FUTURE: > > And this is what we've come up with. > > Inspiring music: a killer line up! Details below. > > Venue: Las Palmas- Rotterdam. A perfect mix between a club and a > warehouse. > > > NO-COMPROMISE SOUND SYSTEM!: > > The goal was to create a new standard in sound. I wanted to work with > people > who have the same passion for quality sound as I do. People who know > that an > ultimate sound system is essential for experiencing music. After a lot > of > research, I bumped into Funktion-One. > > This sound system is designed by 2 legendary people in the world of > audio: > Tony Andrews and John Newsham. Besides Funktion-one, Andrews and Newsham > designed and developed Turbosound. Newsham also has an enormous > experience > as sound engineer for A.O., Pink Floyd, and is currently working as an > engineer for artists like Underworld and Massive Attack. They will fly > over > from the UK to set up the best sound system ever to be heard in a club > in > Holland. > > Jochem Paap > 15-02- 2003 > > --- > > SWEATBOXER > 29 April, 2003 > LAS PALMAS - ROTTERDAM > > LINE UP: will be announced on 24-02-2003 > > Tickets: 23 Euro + pre sale fee. > > Pre Sale: from 22-02-2003 > Tickets via Internet (with credit card): http://www.ticketservice.nl > > For more info: > WWW.SPEEDYJ.COM > > > > + / > > --> http://www.speedyj.com > > + \
Re: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
> really an art form making a good hard techno set, and it really has to be > programmed well in order to keep things bumping without slipping into > boring. very true > BTW, I think some of Samuel L Sessions stuff sounds VERY Detroit infuenced > if you ask me, some of these tracks have little melodic things and synth > parts that are extremely 313 that's because he rips off Purpose Maker tracks all the time > it's a bit unfair to say that he just produces the same 1/2 bar record over > and over, not all his records are like that. sorta true. and who cares - i like most of what he does.
Re: (313) Re: (tech-house) Bad music...Good people!
- Original Message - From: "Dennis DeSantis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: (313) Re: (tech-house) Bad music...Good people! > Phil Williams wrote: > > > > If you're a performer, you are a focus for people, and you have to be at > > least civil to everyone... regardless of how many times you've been > > approached, or how whacked out you are after playing 150 gigs on the hop... > > Anecdote: > > Sometimes, for whatever reason, I get booked to play live sets where I'm > sandwiched in between bone-crushingly brutal techno djs. If you know my > music, you'll realize immediately that this is going to set up some > cognitive dissonance problems - next to 3 hours of 140bpm loop techno, > my music sounds kind of like "West Side Story." > And inevitably, someone always comes up to me during my set and asks me > to play something harder. Last month at SO 36 I had a girl THROW BALLS > OF PAPER at me to get my attention, so she could tell me to play harder. > But I always stay cool - I politely explain that I'm doing a live set, > not a DJ set, and that I only have my own music and this is pretty much > what it sounds like. > I see my role as a performer as one of servant, not as idol. If someone > wants to talk to me, critically or complimentarily, I'm more than > willing to listen. That's part of my job. > > My $.02, > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com reminds me of a funny story: time before last that hawtin was here in LA i was standing next to him as my buddy notices this guy trying to give richie hand-written notes on 3x5 cards... "where is your 909?", "do a 16-bar breakdown". what? wallet, check. ID, check. car keys, check. 3x5 cards and pencil so I can give the DJ notes, check.
Re: (313) Track ID
dunno what that is, but i'm happy to hear someone finally play Slynus IV out (around 1:34:00). only a little piece of it tho.. sampled vocal or some other mix i've never heard. - Original Message - From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: (313) Track ID > > > 17:51 in, latest Sammy Dee set - http://www.paxahau.com/archives.htm > > I've heard this track many a times ... from rich , magda, etc.. > > -Pete > > --- > Peter Grammenos > Goldman Sachs & Co. > Tel : 212.902.2446 > --- >
Re: (313) DEMF site/demos
if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the right hands. - Original Message - From: "kataconda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos > does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years > festival? > transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm > sure they're busy) > thanks > kaojyan > > www.acidsonicresearch.com >
Re: (313) what's on in L.A. ?
depends a lot where you're going to be... saying you'll be in LA is like saying you'll be in rhode island. ;) shopping... you might as well hit Melrose. there are several (questionable) record stores along with a lot of shopping. actually it will probably remind you some of uptown, only better. i'm talking about melrose roughly between fairfax and la brea. there's a solid record store in los feliz called vinyl fetish. it's at 1750 N Vermont ave. if you get out that far east, there's also some interesting shopping in silver lake. if you're closer to the west side, there's a decent record store in west LA called higher source. it's at 1544 Purdue ave, just off santa monica blvd, just west of the 405. around the corner is West LA Music, a very nice equipment store. and if you've never been to the 3rd St. Promenade in santa monica that's worth doing, just for general shopping. as far as clubs on those nights of the week the only thing i can comfortably recommend is Sugar in santa monica on tuesday night. http://www.clubsugar.com/. tuesday is the moontribe night, so you get something like house and desert breaks, whatever the hell that is. but actually it's a very reliably fun night, the crowd is unpretentious and just there to have fun, the music often isn't bad, and it's $2 to get in. it's actually a very nice club as well... small, well done. garrett - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: (313) what's on in L.A. ? > I'll be in L.A. starting Monday and maybe leaving Wednesday or Thursday - > was wondering if there is anything/place worth visiting. Most of my time is > going to be taken up by work but if I get some free time I'd like to know > where to shop and where to go for some decent music (and vegetarian food of > any ethnicity). > I know Juan Atkins is going to be playing but I think that's Thursday night > so I can't plan that one. > Doesn't John Tejada have some regular night in the city? > > MEK >
Re: (313) EB Radio show 2pm est
it's zacHary luBin, or http://www.zacharylubin.com/ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: (313) EB Radio show 2pm est > Electronic Boutiue > 2pm- 4pm est > www.channelzonline.org > > todays show is techno, and quite bangin' > the two guests are (in order of airing) Trent Abbe & Zackary Ludin (aka mumtaz) > > trent is a local dj/producer who is one of the founders of lansings own v-max > records. > > zack is a dj/engineer from chicago. check out www.zackaryludin.com for more info > and tour stuff. > > enjoy the show. both sets are top notch! > > future shows will include dennis donohue, john beltran, mike mitchell, and there > are more that I cannot think of right off hand. but I am always accepting new > matteral and if you are interested in do this hit me back. > > scotto > lansing, mi
Re: (313) Robotman - Hypnofreak
according to the Definitive discog, it first came out on DEF003 http://www.definitiverecordings.com/catalog/def_003.frame.html On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:43 PM, James Bucknell wrote: when you wear one side out, you still have the other. why doesn't moodyman do that instead of putting out onesided releases? james I believe that was 12DEF013...but I think mine has Do Da Doo on both sides...is it a mispress?? Jeff -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:47 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Robotman - Hypnofreak Hi all, Just got a copy of the Minus/plus 8 duo release FUSE "NT" b/w Robotman "Hypnofreak" in the Steve Bug remix. I was wondering whether the original of "Hypnofreak" was ever released? Also, the record states that Robotman is actually an alter ego of Richie Hawtin, but I thought it was someone else? Hypnofreak is released on Definitive somewhere in 1992, well i asum that is 'normal' release. It has hypnofreak on 1 side and do-da-doo on the otherside. Hypno-freak is co-produced by Richie Hawtin. Can't quit remember if Robotman is Eddie 'evil' Richards or Richard Michaels -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Robotman - Hypnofreak
richard michaels is richie: richard michael hawtin. On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 10:32 AM, The Armchair DJ wrote: Wasn't the whole Richard Michaels thing just a great big Plus 8 in-joke? Brian -Original Message- From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:22 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Robotman - Hypnofreak Hawtin is definitively Robotman. - Original Message - From: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Robotman - Hypnofreak Hi all, Just got a copy of the Minus/plus 8 duo release FUSE "NT" b/w Robotman "Hypnofreak" in the Steve Bug remix. I was wondering whether the original of "Hypnofreak" was ever released? Also, the record states that Robotman is actually an alter ego of Richie Hawtin, but I thought it was someone else? Hypnofreak is released on Definitive somewhere in 1992, well i asum that is 'normal' release. It has hypnofreak on 1 side and do-da-doo on the otherside. Hypno-freak is co-produced by Richie Hawtin. Can't quit remember if Robotman is Eddie 'evil' Richards or Richard Michaels -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID)
that jak was may 27, 2001 - Original Message - From: "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "House of Suki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > wasnt the party 3 years ago at city club called jak? > > that was a great party but it killed my ears :) > > -Joe > > > - Original Message - > From: "House of Suki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:39 PM > Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > That would be Milwaukee st. off of Woodward (near Hastings). Jak is bak > was > > in Jan 95 btw the night after DBX in Lansing (jak 3 got busted before it > > happened in Dec and this was the make up) > > > > raph (still kinda remembers) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:59 PM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > > Don't forget the JAK parties ...with a nice view of the Chrysler > > buildingwhat was the name of that place/location??? Not Hastings, > > but... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:52 PM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > > OK I have to ask, did anyone go to the series of three +8 parties before > > that: Hard, Harder and Hardest. (wasn't that at Roma Hall?) > > > > sorry... > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:48 PM > > To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org > > Cc: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) > > Subject: Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > > yeah it was the first time > > > > and yeah, we are all very old now ;) > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > Cc: "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:39 AM > > Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > > > > Isn't the party Darren is referring to called "Spastik"? > > > > > > No - at that party he played live (for I think the first time?) as > > "Plastikman". With the +8 Plastikdancers up on various boxes throughout, > > ha. That party must have been 110 degrees inside, a sweatbox coasted in > > dripping black plastic. > > > > > > peace > > > Matt MacQueen > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID)
i know i went to at least one, but i'm really not sure which spastik and everything after are where my cognizance of what was really going on kicked in... - Original Message - From: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > OK I have to ask, did anyone go to the series of three +8 parties before that: Hard, Harder and Hardest. (wasn't that at Roma Hall?) > > sorry... > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:48 PM > To: Matthew MacQueen; 313@hyperreal.org > Cc: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) > Subject: Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > yeah it was the first time > > and yeah, we are all very old now ;) > > - Original Message - > From: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Cc: "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:39 AM > Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > Isn't the party Darren is referring to called "Spastik"? > > > > No - at that party he played live (for I think the first time?) as > "Plastikman". With the +8 Plastikdancers up on various boxes throughout, > ha. That party must have been 110 degrees inside, a sweatbox coasted in > dripping black plastic. > > > > peace > > Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID)
rich was infamous for great big gooey stacks of acetates in this age... he was always playing some weird different version of his own stuff. quite sure this like most things never actually saw the light of day sorta interesting to think that he's doing the exact thing now, only with better technology - Original Message - From: "Eric Scuccimarra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darren Longton (Marketing)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > Unfortunately I don't know anyone who ever found a copy of that record... I > don't even know that it ever really existed to be honest. > > At 01:30 PM 1/30/2003 -0500, Darren Longton (Marketing) wrote: > >LOL!!...Yeah I hear you on "not remembering" a lot. but as tb pointed > >out, it MUST have been a fresh acetate...do you know anyone that actually > >found a copy? > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:22 PM > >To: Darren Longton (Marketing); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > >I think that the Jak is Bak party was later - maybe 96. > > > > > >I saw Hawtin at the Packard plant in early 95 or late 94 or so and while I > >don't remember it that well it doesn't sound like the party you are > >describing. It was after this party that he had the immigration problems > >and when they finally let him back into the country was when Jak is Bak > >happened, if I remember correctly. > > > >I think that he had his own remix of it... Again cloudy memories of the > >time but I remember their being some sort of extremely limited or bootleg > >remix of Spastik that everyone was looking for... > > > >There are whole years of my life that I just totally can't remember... > > > >At 01:04 PM 1/30/2003 -0500, Darren Longton (Marketing) wrote: > > >Does anyone remember when Richie dropped this (spastik) at JAK IS BAK (in > > >the Packard, back in like 95ish)? I can't remember...was that a semi-live > > >set? I just seem to remember him dropping it differently than the original. > > > > > >Point of reference for those to ed up to remember: the dj booth was in > > >the middle of a HUGE room with the usual Plus8-style netting, surrounding > > >him. (large chill room with the Switch poster on the wall "penis-pump") > > > > > >Anyone?? > > > > > >ahh...the good ole days;). > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM > > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > > > > > > > >i play the harder sh#t. i also spin around 143 bpm. spastik is one of my > > >favorite tracks of all time though. if i want to play it i'll actually > > >slow down my set just to fit it in. i love spastik. > > > > > >"Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >To me it signifies the extreme side of techno, but without relying on just > > > >upping the BPMs - an unearthly, stripped-down, relentless track that still > > > >sounds like no other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > > > >From: P dircon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Maarten Baute' > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; FC2 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:26 AM > > > >Subject: Re: (313) Track ID from Kevin Saunderson DEMF Mix Part 1 > > > > > > > > > > > >> Took me a while to take to it cos I used to hammer the 2 acid ones > > on the > > > >> lp but once I heard it out I was hammering it like there was no > > > >> tomorrow... > > > >> > > > >> It just kind of mixes with anything... > > > >> > > > >> Luv it > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Placid > > > >> -- > > > >> http://www.acid-house.net > > > >> > > > >> Everything you wanted to know about acid house > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > it was my second tune in on Groovetech..I love it :0) > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -Original Message- > > > >> > From:"FC2 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > Sent:30 January 2003 01:06 > > > >> > To:"'Maarten Baute'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > Cc:"'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >> > Subject:RE: (313) Track ID from Kevin Saunderson DEMF Mix Part 1 > > > >> > > > > >> > I am suprised at how many DJ's I still hear playing out > > Spastik...I have > > > >> > noproblem with it, but it seems whenever I go out and see one of them > > > >there > > > >> > techno DJ's I hear it...good stuff... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Peace > > > >> > > > > >> > Jeff > > > >> > > > > >> > -Original Message- > > > >> > From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:51 PM > > > >> > To: Stephen Hart; 313@hyperreal.org > > > >> > Subject: Re: (313) Track ID from Kevin Saunde
Re: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID)
yeah it was the first time and yeah, we are all very old now ;) - Original Message - From: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Cc: "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: RE: (313) Spastik (was DEMF ID) > > Isn't the party Darren is referring to called "Spastik"? > > No - at that party he played live (for I think the first time?) as "Plastikman". With the +8 Plastikdancers up on various boxes throughout, ha. That party must have been 110 degrees inside, a sweatbox coasted in dripping black plastic. > > peace > Matt MacQueen
Re: (313) more demf stuff...
i think the operative word in that quote is "chuckles". the whole thing is funny. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... > > Wow - look at this from the article > > > >As the party moves to the Roostertail for a night of thumping techno, the mayor's crew chuckles about Marvin's >attempt to keep the festival. Kilpatrick's chief administrative officer, Derrick Miller, says Hearns, though a >great guy, suggested the DEMF needs some classic R&B acts. > > > > > Classic R&B acts? I know this festival is suppose to be about the music of > Detroit but if you're going to open it up to classic R&B then why not have > some rock & roll like The Dirtbombs and White Stripes fer chris'sake. Why > we're at it let's add some big band jazz, country music, blues, and > classical music. > > MEK > > > > > > "Jongsma, K.J." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org > o.nl>cc: >Subject: RE: (313) more demf stuff... > 01/28/03 06:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > All this stuff from Carol Marvin really boils down to a demand to pay > > her off so she'll go away. The Hearns thing is particularly > > cynical. > > It's all about lawyers from now on, so if I were Derrick May and Carl > > Craig I'd say, "see you in court -- if you dare." > > > > And if the new festival can't use the DEMF name, I'm sure another > > can be found, and maybe not such a bad idea anyway since it would > > allow rebuilding the "brand" in a direction more true to the real > > meaning and history of electronic music in Detroit. > > Metrotimes also has an article about this: > http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4518 > > A spokesman of Kilpatrick says: > > "If necessary, Dickens says, the name will change to the Detroit > International Electronic Music Festival, or some such variation." > > and the DEMF is just a name indeed. I wondered how we would think of this > if > PCM got the festival and Derrick May said he was doing a 3 day party to > because he thinks he must do the festival.. just a thought > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > DISCLAIMER > > De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele > aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of > ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). > > Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op > de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen > garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus > vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail > berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen > te controleren. > -- > > > >
Re: (313) more demf stuff...
she'll also be sponsoring an executive line of chauffeur-driven DEMF signature golf carts. - Original Message - From: "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "diana potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... > "Marvin also claims that last September her company successfully reserved > Hart Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for the DEMF. > In addition to the festival, she promises that DEMF Inc. will build a world > headquarters and a nightclub in Detroit, start an electronic music > foundation, and produce a weekly radio show and a quarterly newsletter." > > > > lol > > watch out detroit! > > -Joe > > - Original Message - > From: "diana potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:09 PM > Subject: Re: (313) more demf stuff... > > > > > > oi vey. > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030124-044240-4419r > > > > > > > > > > A spokesman for DEMF Inc. said that the company > > > will consider seeking an > > > injunction against any Memorial Day festival with > > > the DEMF name produced by > > > anybody else. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > While May, Saunderson and Craig will handle many of > > > the artistic decisions for > > > the festival, the DEMF's primary point man will be > > > Richard Maher of May's > > > Detroit-based Transmat Records. May will actually be > > > spending much of the next > > > fourth months in Japan, where he was hired as the > > > resident DJ at a new nightclub. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Marvin also claims that last September her company > > > successfully reserved Hart > > > Plaza for the next three Memorial Day weekends for > > > the DEMF. > > > >> > > > > > > scotto > > > lansing, mi. > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com
