Re: (313) 313 netiquette (was new zealand's podcast laws ) was ( was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview)
Hey I wanted to read about podcast law not netiquette. Could you change the subject please? > I disagree. I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws > and regulations. The original post was about a specific detroit > related thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have > to read a new email that has nothing to do with the op every time > somebody replies. A subject change would easily fix this, and it's > just good netiquette. > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in >> itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad >> Mike interview) >> >> >> people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines >> accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost. >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded >>> radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not a >> >>> performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able >>> to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the >>> downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and UR >> >>> aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for downlaod >>> the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not >>> the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by the >>> state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during any >>> given day. >>> >>> essentially it's the listener who needs to > This proves once again >>> how NZ takes America's most trumped-up >>>> regulations and makes them worse. >>>> >>>> I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's >>>> classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of "digital >>>> munitions," otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, "my life as a >>>> Kiwi arms courier." >>>> >>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html >>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html >>>> >>>> fh >>>> >>>> >>>> -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- >>>> >>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview >>>> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST) >>>> >>>>>> They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they >> >>>>>> do close people down for it. >>>>> >>>>> This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local >>>>> organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing their >> >>>>> fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers >>>>> podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist >>>>> purely of talk. >>>> >>>> So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out it >> >>>> was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand who >>>> control broadcast licenses here): >>>> >>>>> PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence >>>>> podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make >>>>> available music on demand is required to seek the permission of the >>>>> individual copyright owners concerned. >>>> >>>> So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from >>>> here!Madness... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >> > > > > -- > peace, > > frank > > dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >
Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not a performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and UR aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for downlaod the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by the state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during any given day. essentially it's the listener who needs to > This proves once again how NZ takes America's most trumped-up > regulations and makes them worse. > > I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter > Gutmann's classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of > "digital munitions," otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, > "my life as a Kiwi arms courier." > > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html > > fh > > > -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST) > >>> They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do >>> close people down for it. >> >> This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local >> organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing their >> fees >> are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers podcasts or even >> streaming archived shows here unless they consist purely of talk. > > So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out it was > an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand who control > broadcast licenses here): > >> PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence podcasts at >> the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make available music on >> demand is required to seek the permission of the individual copyright >> owners concerned. > > So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from > here!Madness... > > > >
[Fwd: Re: (313) "Retro Techno compilation" on vinyl !]
Having bought this compilation new in 1991, it felt then as if it was a historic anthology, a summing up almost...because there was definately a feeling for a while, after acid and the big parties, there was a kind of backlash, and I think people really felt that techno/house had had it's moment, it had peaked...so that comp, although ridiculously close to the years that those tracks were released, even in '91, had a real sense of nostalgia about it. And for a lot of people it kind of bridged the gap a bit because most people's idea of techno then was bleep/rave stuff. The fact that it sounded so forward looking when i pulled it out again in 99/2000 remains a testament to the music, and a lot of what makes it such powerfull music was missed by most even at that time, and it becomes more apparent every day. Great record. > On 9 Jun 2008, at 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> oh dear... "Retro" Techno? LOL >> >> get me my slippers > > :) Given it's a really old compilation re-done, I think the title is a > not as bad as it sounds. One of the first things that got me into > detroit techno in fact. I was mainly into industrial (and some dance > music) before that. > > With that in mind this double pack really blew me away. I've not been > the same since :) > > robin... >
RE: (313) Electro Recommends?
http://www.discogs.com/release/377298 http://www.discogs.com/release/573486 I'll vouch for the excellentness of Volframs 'Welcome to Gothenburg' as well, very subtle, very simple and low fi. Pure modern electro. Yeah t that 'welcome to gothenburg' is amazing. There's another cool record by a french guy Automat, sounds like just an 808 and a yamaha CS15, really nice. > I'm having an early middle-aged electro upswing: > > http://www.discogs.com/release/873781 The Consumer > http://www.discogs.com/release/524084 The Consumer > http://www.discogs.com/release/187491 Volfram, check the label, Stilleben > also > http://www.discogs.com/release/907284 Data Cat, again check the label, > it's owned by Legowelt > > Which leads me to say, you will need to seek out the proper electro which > Legowelt does sooner or later if you haven't already, rather than the > italo/chicago type of stuff he does which has electro trimmings. The > latter are good imo, but not quite what you're after, I'm sure you know. > > The same goes for Viewlexx, Bunker, etc > > The two fairly recent silicon scally LPs got mixed reviews but I like 'em > - they're quite IDMish. Perhaps a bit too digital-sounding though. This is > the one I would recommend to you: > > http://www.discogs.com/release/892700 > > I hesitate to give this - but you did say vocoders are OK so long as > they're not speaking English! > > > The last two Urban Tribe vinyls are definitely what you want, I think: > > > I would also check earlier stuff like > > http://www.discogs.com/release/194099 > http://www.discogs.com/release/365605 Dez Williams, although prepare to be > disappointed that he's not had anything new for a while. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Electro Recommends? > > > yeah, I like parts of that, mainly these tracks: > Vapour Trails > Box - is alright but so similar to other high tempo electro tunes Pluck > Fallblattanzeige - really dig this Remains - and this too Melting Faces - > and this > > most things on Ai rock my world - anything else along these lines? stuff > that's a little more "IDM" or "leftfield" but has Electro roots seeping > through the cracks? > > really trying to steer clear of the electro clichés: robots, androids, > Kraftwerk/Egyptian Lover rip-offs I think vocoders are still worth hearing > as long as what's being said hasn't already been said half a gazillion > times (or is in a non-English > language) > > MEK > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/22/2008 02:10:54 PM: > >> Howzabout the new Datassette LP on Ai? >> >>jeff >> >> >> >> -- Original message -- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Can anyone recommend some newish forward thinking Electro? Getting > tired >> > of stuff that either sounds like it's stuck back in '84, Robert >> > Smith rocker wannabes, or is really just "nu-school" Big Beat breaks >> > in > disguise. >> > >> > MEK >> > >> >
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas
That's a great shirt. I'll have one of these please. -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:38 AM To: Michael Kuszynski; Frank Glazer Cc: darnistle; 313 Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? ideas Okay, so someone said the more the merrier, so I'll post up a less technical looking (though a bit du jour I admit) option. It's a free font, my own script and a phrase that I think captures both the attitude and OT nature of the list at once (depending on whether you read it with or without the pause). Of course that's the artsy way of saying that I was laughing at the phrase in my head as I read the threads and thought, I should put that on a shirt. So I opened illustrator and there it is. http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8854/313shirtcp9.jpg sure wish I could get JT to do a line drawing of like Kenny or mad mike to go on it. That would be sick. Or maybe too much. Whatevs though. K mwnb -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM
RE: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF?
Yeah thats a good point, be good to use it to give more exposure to this list specifically... -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:06 AM To: Remco Doorewaard; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? hate to criticize work that i did not do but the design is a little too referential to the number and not signifying enough of the list. i would rather have the whole address be some sort of a focus. just my opinion. thanks for getting the work in to see. not trying to be a bad spirit. On 2/26/08, Remco Doorewaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Looks nice! But I would like it more if the centre is totally blue I > > > think (just black/blue, not black/blue/black/blue). > > > > Not sure what you mean? > > Well, the 313@hyperreal.org is in a black area, I think I like it better if > this area is also blue! But that's just my opinion. But maybe it´s more > ordinary that way > > > > I also always liked the Kenny Larkin - catatonic Sleeve > > > http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=7018 > > > > Not a fan of negative spaced Helvetica and I don't what The Designers > > Republic on the phone :) It's been done to death up here and has been > > around since the 60s > > > > I´m not a graphic designer (or that old :)) so wouldn´t know about that... > > > > bit in the same way your T-shirt-3 is like > > > > > > However, I will not be at the DEMF, so my chances of ever getting a > > > 313 > > > T-shirt is virtually zero :( > > > > Don't see why you couldn't just buy one regardless of the design > > people selected, you're on the list so you should be able to make a > > purchase I reckon. > > > > m > > I will just follow this thread and maybe I can buy one somewhere/time! > > Thanks, > > Remco > > > > > > > > > > > > Remco > > > > > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > >> Van: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2008 10:51 > > >> Aan: kent williams > > >> CC: list 313 > > >> Onderwerp: Re: (313) 313 list T Shirts for DEMF? > > >> > > >> Good stuff, here's V3 > > >> http://flickr.com/photos/dustscience/2293704836/ > > >> > > >> > -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1298 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 8:45 PM
Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of
Isn't it kind of the reverse of Tomita? > i may agree or disagree, but that doesn't matter. > > that is an awfully closed minded thing to say, and I > do believe that alot of what techno and creative music > is about is having an open mind. If a director has an > open enough mind to try Techno, then good for him. > > I remember people cringing at orchestras playing with > heavy metal bands...it may have not liked it very > much, but i do appreciate the work that was put in to > the result and the creativeness to give it a shot. > > Jeff > > > --- /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> classical musicians covering techno music is an >> insult to the art of music. >> if you disagree, you're wrong. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Greg Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:09 PM >> Subject: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of >> >> >> Attention Classical fans in NYC (that means you >> Derek): >> >> Bach, Berio, ... Carl Craig?!? >> >> "CARL CRAIG Technology (adapted by Francesco >> Tristano Schlimé)" >> >> > http://www.carnegiehall.org/article/box_office/events/evt_10028.html? >> selecteddate=02012008 >> >> - Greg >> >> > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > >
RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]
Not even needing the hiss or crackle, just the atmosphere created by the surface, the sound of the space created by the needle/record/platter motor. A deep rumble. Laptop performances in clubs make the place space feel very empty, like being in a vacuum and needing to pop your ears, or surrounded by people who are dancing, but dancing in the same room but at a different time, and you're kind of on your own. You know, like there's so much silence comes from an mp3/laptop that you can't hear the music... The flip is like having an aircon unit humming outside your room all day and night, not too intrusive and you can get used to it, then it stops, and it's like something uncomfortable has suddenly been turned on. Silence being deafening and all that...You can definately feel a record beyond it's audible inscriptions... > Yeah, but an mp3 of vinyl crackle would be a compressed, digital > approximation of the analogue > source, so (assuming this argument holds water) would still sound less > 'warm' than a slab of vinyl > with nothing but, err, hiss and crackle on it. Like some uber-mnml m-nus > release ;) > > But anyway, this is getting waaay too zen for me. > > N > >> Perhaps playing a silent record is going to far :) ... but it's a fair >> point. >> >> Still, if your file's digitized from vinyl you would get all the >> benefits of the medium in the audio quality too, I guess? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 04 January 2008 13:35 >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing] >> >> >> Just reading this >> http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12749&p=3 >> >> It got me to thinking about laptop preformances sounding so sterile and >> thin, especially over a club PA where you need to feel part of the >> sound...I wonder if playing a blank sided record through the PA at the >> same time would fill in that space that seems empty with mp3/laptop, so >> you feel that 'inaudible' record rumble? >> >> How much of the preceived audio loss of mp3 in a club is actually >> record/surface/player noise? >> >>> >>> >>> Some interesting views from the artist-label point of view come up >>> here. >>> >>> From a consumer's point of view I'd say that vinyl is not the only >>> area of life where we are facing a transition from physical to digital >> >>> objects. The same problems come up with things like books. I have two >>> opinions on the whole thing. I buy quite a lot of vinyl (I'm not a >>> collector as such but many of the people who know me would completely >>> disagree), my house is full of the stuff. I'm also quite computer >>> literate and have all my digital stuff well managed. >>> >>> As time goes on I'm less and less likely to buy vinyl, unless it's a >>> must have release. I'm less tied to that physical object and the huge >>> advantage to having everything digital is that I can have access to it >> >>> pretty much anytime, there and then. Since managing all my music >>> digitally (digitised vinyl and downloads) I listen to the music I buy >>> a lot lot more and for the digital stuff the total cost of the music I >> >>> buy has dropped considerably (for the same amount purchased). >>> >>> Now, I don't know how representative I am of the market for techno/ >>> house out there but I know a lot of friends who used to spend all >>> their money on this stuff and now they've moved on in life (jobs, >>> kids, houses etc) don't buy music at all because of the cost/space etc >> >>> of vinyl. Because of digital I'll never get to that point where I'll >>> stop so in a sense digital could be a way of retaining some part of a >>> lost market. >>> >>> All that said I'll be very very sad when vinyl disappears but I am >>> resigned to it going eventually. >>> >>> robin... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
[Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]
Just reading this http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12749&p=3 It got me to thinking about laptop preformances sounding so sterile and thin, especially over a club PA where you need to feel part of the sound...I wonder if playing a blank sided record through the PA at the same time would fill in that space that seems empty with mp3/laptop, so you feel that 'inaudible' record rumble? How much of the preceived audio loss of mp3 in a club is actually record/surface/player noise? > > > Some interesting views from the artist-label point of view come up here. > > From a consumer's point of view I'd say that vinyl is not the only > area of life where we are facing a transition from physical to digital > objects. The same problems come up with things like books. > I have two opinions on the whole thing. I buy quite a lot of vinyl > (I'm not a collector as such but many of the people who know me would > completely disagree), my house is full of the stuff. I'm also quite > computer literate and have all my digital stuff well managed. > > As time goes on I'm less and less likely to buy vinyl, unless it's a > must have release. I'm less tied to that physical object and the huge > advantage to having everything digital is that I can have access to it > pretty much anytime, there and then. Since managing all my music > digitally (digitised vinyl and downloads) I listen to the music I buy > a lot lot more and for the digital stuff the total cost of the music I > buy has dropped considerably (for the same amount purchased). > > Now, I don't know how representative I am of the market for techno/ > house out there but I know a lot of friends who used to spend all > their money on this stuff and now they've moved on in life (jobs, > kids, houses etc) don't buy music at all because of the cost/space etc > of vinyl. Because of digital I'll never get to that point where I'll > stop so in a sense digital could be a way of retaining some part of a > lost market. > > All that said I'll be very very sad when vinyl disappears but I am > resigned to it going eventually. > > robin... > > > > > >
RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think
Is it a big shelf you have there Rob? > It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the > shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 November 2007 16:32 > To: kent williams > Cc: list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > > I think you're being a bit hard on yourself here Kent, Burial is just as > popular with dubstep/garage heads here as it is with people who don't > follow the scene from what I can tell, as Toby pointed out the album > helped Burial cross over. > > > On 8 Nov 2007, at 15:57, kent williams wrote: > >> Interesting to watch a discussion like this blow up. I see everyone's > >> points in the whole matter. I think I would react differently if I'd >> grown up in the UK and heard more of the good and the bad, and been >> exposed to the culture surrounding various genres, I'd hear the music >> differently. >> >> The context in the US is different. Unless you spend a lot of time >> watching the UK scene, you only hear what bubbles to the top of the >> pile. What I find interesting is how many Indie rock types in the US >> picked up on Burial. Probably looks like poor misguided Yanks getting > >> it wrong again to people in the UK. OTOH to us, it looks like you >> drive on the wrong side of the road and add an extra syllable to >> aluminum to sound posh. >> > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, > is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and > Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > # >
(313) moebius documentary
Howdy. I saw a Moebius doco (2006) a few days ago, soundtrack by Ralf Hutter. Pretty amazing stuff. Does anyone know if it: s released, can be bouvght etc?
RE: (313) this MINUS climate change BS
Or get a folding bike. Man those things get you anywhere. > Nothing wrong with using a big mailing list or a website to communicate > your political views! > It's an important issue - though admittedly it's hard to take seriously > a lecture on climate change from someone who flies around the world > regularly - he should take a leaf from Matthew Herbert's book and not > take any bookings which would involve a flight > > I've always been disappointed by the apoliticism of electronic music in > general > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Emiliano Zani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 September 2007 16:31 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) this MINUS climate change BS > > > I get annoyed as hell when a musician thinks that because > they > sold lots of records and people like to listen to them > mix other > peoples music, that we automatically care about > what they say about > climate change, politics, etc. > > I get annoyed as hell, too... But that's the way world goes and seems > like we can't hide all this BIG issues (til they are so trendy&sexy): > - 2 years ago was erase the debt (of so-called-3rd world), > - last year's trend was Cambodian & African childs' adoption, > - now it's climate change... > > So, is M_nus the new Brangelina? Is Richie the new AlGore??? > ;-))) > > > /0 ha scritto: >> I'm sure you're misunderstanding me, and perhaps thats my fault. >> >> I get annoyed as hell when a musician thinks that because they sold >> lots of records and people like to listen to them mix other peoples >> music, that we automatically care about what they say about climate >> change, politics, etc. >> >> it irritates me that minus is using my email to further their agendas, > >> regardless of what they may be. they know damn well that I didnt give > >> them my email addy for their hipocritical announcements regarding >> "climate change" (notice this was "global warming" until recently) >> >> rich, you wanna help? dedicate a months worth of event fees to a >> university that has educated people working on studies relating to >> climate change. you're just an uneducated musician that flies all over > >> the world, using jet fuel, electricity etc to provide a recreational >> service. >> >> were this on minus.com, I would just ignore it. >> >> this is just my opinion, not looking to get into "climate change" >> debates etc. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Davor Ostojic" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:31 PM >> Subject: Re: (313) this MINUS climate change BS >> >> >>> On 9/4/07, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: did anyone else get this crap from minus, jumping on the "climate change" bandwagon? someone needs to remind them that they dont really matter in the grand scheme of things, and initiatives like this smack of over-inflated sense of self-importance. because Im sure playing 200 days a year on multi-thousand watt audio > systems is environmentally friendly... sounds like richie ate too many pills this weekend >>> >>> well, when you donate money for an operation to a sick child's >>> parents, i don't know how that over-inflates your sense of >>> self-importance, but it surely shows you know what IS important. how >>> does this Minus step endanger you ? you disagree with what Minus is >>> doing ? >> >> > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, > is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and > Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > # >
RE: (313) badly cut records
It's all on the web, but elliptical 'fits' the groove and thus plays more of the 'track', rather than the diamond wedged in between two points. I think there's one diamond cut that only plays one way, and to back cue with it is rather like stroking a cat the wrong way, with the addition of vinyl shavings...this could be the stanton 500. But not to worry, the biggest cause of wear is worn out needles and badly setup tt. Not many dj's change needles after 1000 hrs. but then most of the people on here burn to mp3 immediately and then vacuum pack the record... Shure M44G for sound, wear and price, the m447 tracks a bit too heavy. > Cheers for this. On the wear thing though I had understood that spherical > damaged your records more - for exactly the same reason > you quote! I.e. because they only had one contact point per side that at > that point wear happened quickly due to the same stylus > pressure for each type being concentrated in one place with the spherical > and spread more widely with the elliptical.. > Just been looking for web stuff, so far > http://www.totalsounds.co.uk/dj_cartridges_and_styli.htm , > http://www.styli.co.nz/dj-stylus.html , > http://www.djedwhite.com/articles.html , going each way on the wear thing. > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Anya K Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 24 July 2007 18:08 >> >> Spherical styli are better for scratching, tough handling and >> such, so they're better to use in a club environment. They >> also won't wear your records out so quickly because they have >> only one contact point. >> However, the sound can suffer. >> Elliptical styli are better for records you like to listen to >> at home, they have 2 contact points with the vinyl, so they >> pick up a better signal from the record. >> At least that's what I remember having read somewhere, a long >> time ago. I can't find that review again sadly, it explained >> it much better and more technical than I can. >> Anyway, I use the Ortofon DJ Concorde (blue) with E styli at >> home and take the S ones to our parties. No complaints so far! ; ) >> >> >> On 24 Jul 2007, at 17:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > What are the drawbacks of elliptical styli? I say >> "drawbacks" as I'm >> > deducing there must be some as if they're supposed to wear your >> > records less, have a better frequency response and sit in >> the groove >> > better and the price is similar (which it seems to be) then >> why would >> > anybody sell spherical? > >
RE: (313) Justice
I just had a listen to it via junorecords. Does it sound better uncompressed? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:05 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Justice >all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing who it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they would be *that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent album. Ooh that was low Tom! ;-) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM
RE: (313) derrick may on RA
Be like a detroit '24 hour party people', d may sounds as funny as steve cooghan in the RA interview...very funny. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) derrick may on RA http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=823 funny. let's pick actors who we would want to see play all the techno originators in the fiction version of hi tech soul. tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
(313) thx1138 inspired by the film
Were there any thoughts about this free release here? Didn't see much comment, but was wondering what the 'concensus' was, if any. Listening to it now, a very nice, thoughtfull composition. Bravo!!!
(313) Discovering Electronic Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w5mLHv0nNY&mode=related&search= pretty cool... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/800 - Release Date: 5/11/2007 7:34 PM
RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System.
Uh well...once you've got the mp3's of the last 20 years (cream of...of course)of bad european dance music then it's time to move on...and all (old)school is only as relevant as it's relevant...saying that I'm just buzzing out to roxy music:for your pleasure 'in every dream a heartache'...WOW!!! -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:17 AM To: Patrick Wacher; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System. Totally. The CBS is a shining light on the internet. Gutted. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2007 05:45 To: list 313 Subject: (313) RIP Cybernetic Broadcasting System. I'm devastated... http://www.cbs.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=17775 --- Southern Outpost Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin http://www.southernoutpost.com --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 5/2/2007 2:16 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 5/2/2007 2:16 PM
RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone
Sorry here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lBQWUR3u7U&NR=1 -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:52 AM To: pauley; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone I didnt see a modular. I saw an unidentifiable white keyboard, a roland juno-60, and a sequential circuits prophet 5. -Joe - Original Message - From: "pauley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone > Was watching this, what's the modular that appears half way though? > > -Original Message- > From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust; 313 Org > Subject: RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone > > Perfected by Italo-disco legends My Mine.. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBvnPX3BK4 > > > -Original Message- > From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 April 2007 12:50 > To: Martin Dust; 313 Org > Subject: Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone > > > Ah - the old 'extended devil-lock'. > Quite the rage back then and Mr. Oakey might have even been a bit late > on the bus with that one. What needs to be appreciated is how much of a > PITA it is having to deal with it in your eyes/face all of the time (and > it was part of the look to have it hanging over one eye). > Somewhere in my closet is a skeleton from around 1980 with shaved > temples, a devil-lock and a 'tail' (I was a teenage - well, 20-something > - punk-clubber). 6-7 years later, people thought it was cute to extend > the 'tail' fashion to children. Looks like the extended devil-lock may > have been in some kind of dormant-viral stage, waiting to erupt upon > what was probably the generation of children with tails. Fashion can be > brutal. > > j > > > > >> The both nicked it off Phil Oakey to start with anyway ;) >> >> http://www.ex-rental.com/blindyouth/NMELeague002.jpg >> >> >> - >> >>> >>> OK list, I don't who this guy is (and pls, don't tell me), but if >>> copying someone else's music style isn't enough crap, what can you say >>> about someone who also copies his hairstyle >>> >>> http://www.rraurl.com/cena/texto.php?id=3564 >> >> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/776 - Release Date: 4/25/2007 > 12:19 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/776 - Release Date: 4/25/2007 > 12:19 PM > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 4/26/2007 3:23 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 4/26/2007 3:23 PM
RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone
Was watching this, what's the modular that appears half way though? -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust; 313 Org Subject: RE: (313) OT - another Richie clone Perfected by Italo-disco legends My Mine.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBvnPX3BK4 -Original Message- From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 April 2007 12:50 To: Martin Dust; 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone Ah - the old 'extended devil-lock'. Quite the rage back then and Mr. Oakey might have even been a bit late on the bus with that one. What needs to be appreciated is how much of a PITA it is having to deal with it in your eyes/face all of the time (and it was part of the look to have it hanging over one eye). Somewhere in my closet is a skeleton from around 1980 with shaved temples, a devil-lock and a 'tail' (I was a teenage - well, 20-something - punk-clubber). 6-7 years later, people thought it was cute to extend the 'tail' fashion to children. Looks like the extended devil-lock may have been in some kind of dormant-viral stage, waiting to erupt upon what was probably the generation of children with tails. Fashion can be brutal. j > The both nicked it off Phil Oakey to start with anyway ;) > > http://www.ex-rental.com/blindyouth/NMELeague002.jpg > > > - > >> >> OK list, I don't who this guy is (and pls, don't tell me), but if >> copying someone else's music style isn't enough crap, what can you say >> about someone who also copies his hairstyle >> >> http://www.rraurl.com/cena/texto.php?id=3564 > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/776 - Release Date: 4/25/2007 12:19 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/776 - Release Date: 4/25/2007 12:19 PM
RE: (313) Clarence G
Surely it'll go to a bootlegger? -Original Message- From: Emile Facey - Plant43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:40 AM To: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Clarence G Wow $305 already! Who is Gerald Stinson? :/ on 20/4/07 10:44 am, David Beattie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I felt sure that when Placid opened it to offers here > first that Rob would have secured it with his offer of > "a couple of quid" > > Will be interesting indeed to see the real price > > Cheers > BT > --- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I see our very own Placid has his Clarence G 12 for >> sale on eBay at >> the moment. >> >> Will be interesting to see the real price this >> fetches given the >> farce that ensued last time this a copy of this 12 >> came up for sale. >> >> >> robin... >> > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.5/769 - Release Date: 4/19/2007 5:56 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.9/773 - Release Date: 4/22/2007 8:18 PM
RE: (313) Weatherall - Reggae/Dub/Hip Hop
Favourite of mine is the record called BEWARE, another SLY and ROBBIE epic...yabby u, skully and tommy...man, that's got a pre rave feeling for me... -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:37 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Weatherall - Reggae/Dub/Hip Hop On 3/29/07, Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The best dub in my opinion always starts with live studio > playing. There's a lot of good all-electronic dub, but it's not > really the same. i like both styles really, theyre good for different moods. i especially like the early electronic stuff from the 80s, mad prof and sly+robbie and wackies style. modern electronic dub doesnt really do much for me to be honest. i have some records by twilight dub soundsystem, but i dont love them. a friend of mine is heavy into modern dub and dub influenced music, so he hooks me up with lots of mp3s but not much lasts more than a play or two before i delete it. but i have to say i believe the rhythm and sound stuff is amongst the best dub made by anyone in any era. i think you can stand that burial mix "with the artists" album up with any dub record and it will hold its weight. and i think they rhythm and sound CD is one of the best dub/experimental records ever. lovely. tmo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM
RE: (313) Weatherall - Reggae/Dub/Hip Hop
That weatherhall mix is s**t though yeah? Has anyone mentioned U-Roy yet...dunno...he's cool though -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Weatherall - Reggae/Dub/Hip Hop I won't say how long I've been playing dub since it's scary. But my favorites remain King Tubby, Lee Perry, Augustus Pablo and the early Adrian Sherwood/Singers and Players/On-U era. The best dub in my opinion always starts with live studio playing. There's a lot of good all-electronic dub, but it's not really the same. A special nod to the best remix collection I've ever heard, Guerilla in Dub, which really captures the essence of the original dub sensibility using quite good house tracks as the foundation. fh - >On 3/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Matisyahu (Hasidic Jewish reggae!) > >that dood is garbage. complete trash. a mockery of music. > >> Fat Freddie's Drop (it should not go unmentioned) > >yeah their album and ep that i have is immediately loved by anyone who >hears it, regardless of what their usual genre of choice is like. i >tend to call them soul-reggae, but thats kind of redundant. > >> going back to the earlier stuff (ska) you just need to have some Skatalites >> in your collection >> for instrumental reggae/ska > >i have this on heartbeat that is exceptionally wonderful stuff from >the skatalites: > >http://www.discogs.com/release/564853 > >ill be breaking that one out soon as the weather is getting nicer and nicer > >> some good labels: >> Wackie's >> Echo Beach & Select Cuts >> Honest Jon's >> Ariwa > >dont forget blood and fire (they did the congos reissue), > >> if you REALLY want to get to the heart of reggae then definitely check out >> Ras Michael and the whole Nyahbinghi movement >> it's totally stripped down the core of the music - the rhythm - very >> spiritual music and apparently started with the free and escaped slaves in >> Jamaica > >the nyabinghi version of "satta massagana" performed by third world to >open the movie "rockers" is ridiculous. the whole soundtrack and movie >for that are pretty insane, theres some dub (lee perry "dread lion") >and lots of great roots and some of the most classic reggae jams from >the mid-late 70s. and the movie is awesome. > >there's also a nyabinghi box set by trojan that has some nice stuff on >it as well. > >tom > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM
RE: (313) Claude VonStroke
You think von stroke is crazy name...what about the legendary dj 'tom cox'... -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:57 AM To: fab. Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke you mean different von strokes.. sorry ill get my coat p fab. wrote: > i have a first name as a surname so i guess it's different strokes for > different folks.;) > > > > Isn't Barclay Crenshaw ridiculous enough? What is it with the US habit > of giving people surnames as first names? > > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Svagr, Jodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 February 2007 17:46 > To: Christopher O'Grady; list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Claude VonStroke > > The name Claude VonStroke actually arose from a night of rambunctious > partying. They were having a betting game of who could come up with the > most ridiculous or funny DJ name, and Barclay came up with Claude Von > Stroke, which after the party everyone started calling him that and it > ended up sticking with him. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Christopher O'Grady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 February 2007 23:45 > To: list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Claude VonStroke > > I saw him in Dublin about a few months ago as well and I really enjoyed > his set, deep techy and funky. I spent most of the night on the > dancefloor. No regrets. Dirtybird 006 Claude Vonstroke - Beware of the > bird is a brilliant release. But I am a sucker for that sound anyways, > especially the stuff coming out on Audiomatique right now. > > First I thought he was German and now I find out he is from the burbs of > Detroit. But I guess Barclay Crenshaw does not exactly roll off the > tongue like Claude Vonstroke. > > cTp > > > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:43 PM > To: Svagr, Jodie > Cc: Placid; list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke > > I looked him up on imdb - he was location manager for Batman & Robin or > something! There's one song on his CD that is Bukem like drum 'n' > bass that I really like. Maybe it's near the end. > > > On 23/02/2007, at 4:37 AM, Svagr, Jodie wrote: > >> He played in Liverpool about a month ago for a night called Aztec. >> I thought it had an interesting mix of Gettho Tech / Tech House / >> Techno / and even a bit of Motown and Funk Soul. I thought it >> sounded like a good mix of Detroit and San Fran influences. >> >> For those living in Manchester / Liverpool areas, we're doing a >> film showcase in the beginning of April of "Intellect" at The >> Projection Gallery as part of the Global Fusion electronic music >> projects. http://FusionLiverpool.x0.com/Films.html For those who >> don't know about the film, it is brilliantly inspiring, most people >> I know watch it again and again. No matter if you like Claude Von >> Strokes music or not, this movie was an ingenious idea on his part. >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 22 February 2007 16:19 >> Cc: list 313 >> Subject: Re: (313) Claude VonStroke >> >> havent liked anything else hes done tho... got to say >> >> JSS wrote: >> >>> listened to a mix/set of his a while back >>> wasn't impressed >>> found it very 'tech-house' and deleted it in no time >>> >>> On 2/22/07, Placid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> the whos afraid of detroit does indeed do some dancefloor damage./. nice track.. dave cronin wrote: > he and Dirtybird definitely have a following here in > San Francisco with the whole Kontrol scene. > > in fact i got in a little discussion with some kid at > a party who was saying that he was the future of > techno, to which i responded (in typical axxhole fogey > fashion) "you mean tech house?" > > but i do like his sound and "who's afraid of detroit" > is pretty a darn good club track. > > dunno about best track of 2006, though. > > --- Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> I just wondered what the vibe is on former Detroiter >> Claude VonStroke >> aka Barclay Crenshaw? I know he was involved in >> Intellect - that doc. >> His album Beware Of The Bird has been picked up by >> Ministry Of Sound >> here. He's also touring. >> >> Also some 313 types may like the Spirit Catcher >> album Night Vision on >> Ralph Lawson's label - it's the kind of Detroit >> style tech-house Slam >> used to do. I don't care at all for the vocal >> tracks, a bit generic, >> but tracks like Motown Spring, Roller Coaster, Space >> Crash, ie the >> first 3, were very worthwhile. >> >> >> > > > > >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ##
FW: (313) By Popular Request: DJ Milton/DJ Urban "Rowdy Rowdy" Mix Tap
Man, the music and the story...the guy had no way out...his children are his expression...thanks for the tape... -Original Message- From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:14 AM Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) By Popular Request: DJ Milton/DJ Urban "Rowdy Rowdy" Mix Tap ugh, what a story. "when keeping it real goes wrong" or what... thanks for the tape - the deeon mix has gotta be re-recorded cause the mp3 i already is lousy, lousy, lousy. ronny > http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/DJMilton-DJUrban-RowdyRowdy.mp3 > > NOTE: This is uploading as I send this message and will not be > available until 0400 GMT, or 10PM US CST (11PM EST). > > This tape was produced during the time when Milton was living in Iowa. > You can hear him in the first half shouting out a 319 phone number -- > that was his home phone # in Cedar Rapids,IA. > > I don't remember dates exactly but Milton moved to Iowa in 1998 or > thereabouts, and became a popular DJ on the Iowa scene. He brought out > several of the DanceMania DJs to shows in Iowa. In addition to DJing > Milton was working with at-risk teens in Cedar Rapids. > > Then on, a trip back to Chicago a few years back, he was arrested and > convicted of murder. It turns out that before moving to Iowa, someone > had stolen a van containing all of Milton's gear. I don't know all the > details of what went down, but apparently Milton and others found the > guy who stole the van, beat him, and threw him out of an upper-story > window in a Chicago project. > > All of the DanceMania guys grew up in very rough circumstances where > violence was common, but every one of those guys I met seemed very > chill and pleasant to hang out with, Milton included. I used to hang > out with Milton in his studio and help him with software & such on his > computers, and he was always a complete sweetheart to me. It's really > hard to reconcile the Milton I knew with the crime he was convicted > of. > > Mostly I feel bad for his wife and five children. By the time Milton > gets out his kids will mostly be grown. I hope that he survives > prison and is able to pick up the pieces of his life eventually. > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM
RE: (313) Jeff Mills equipment/hardware
What about the basic channel stuff...anyone know effects, recording processes? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:50 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills equipment/hardware On 2/9/07, DB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This should probably be at the 313-techknow > > But to answer the question... Waldorf Microwave I & Doepfer MAQ IIRC ive seen him mention the korg mono/poly, which i had assumed after hearing some of his recentish stuff. im pretty sure recloose used one on his first couple singles and album as well.. tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM
RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
I always found his earlier stuff pretty boring, like a lot of goes nowhere trance...just because it's transmat doesn't mean it's lore...and for me this new stuff sort of progresses down the same path, just even more accessible That last Madonna CD blew me away though, so what do I know... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:11 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to "Uplifting" for my taste. which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 MEK "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/07/2007 02:49:11 PM: > On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad > > but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It > > sounds like an old BT track. Blech. > > aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around > listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO > YOUR OLD STYLE!!! > > tmo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM
RE: (313) RIAA at it again
81,000 cd's ( the ammount confiscated) of other peoples music surely stretches the definition of 'mix tape' though...if he's selling those sorts of figures then 'doing it for the love' doesn't really cut it and if you want to argue the promotional side of it then again at those numbers it ceases to be promotion and becomes re-distribution...without a license... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:25 AM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) RIAA at it again Not that this is probably of more than tangential importance to the 313 list but: This arrest was complete bullsh?t, has caused an Internet and main-stream-media uproar. Look on Youtube for the Fox news report on the arrest -- the whole thing is a trumped up pile of poo. I'd be scared if DJ Drama was some punk, but the guy has powerful friends, and can afford big, mean lawyers. Everyone involved in this bust is going to end up looking like the worthless chimps they are -- The RIAA, the ATL Police, the George DCI, and those pinheads from Fox who did the ridiculous news report about it. Seriously. This case is going to be the RIAA's worst PR nightmare. They're treating someone who is actually a SIGNED artist as a criminal, someone who has sold more records for them than their own advertising and promotional departments. For the RIAA to even push for this is ridiculous. It just shows how the big 4 1/2 Entertainment Companies are committing commercial suicide in public. If they all died tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear. Big media conglomerates are vampires. They kill culture, they don't create it. They steal money from their artists, they treat their customers like criminals, and the music they release is almost all awful. They have no future, they have no clue, and they're going down. On 1/19/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent, this is serious and it's not the RIAA who will be on trial, it's > not even being charged as copyright infringement - they are charging > them with a felony violation of Georgia's Racketeering Influenced > Corrupt Organization law(known as RICO). For those who don't know, > these are the laws normally used to prosecute the mob and organized > crime. This is really a police state type move in my opinion, and much > more serious than the RIAA just suing people. > ~David > > On 1/19/07, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Record Industry Bad. Tell me something we don't know. > > > > I hope DJ Drama goes to trial on this because he'll make chimps out of the RIAA. > > > > That's one thing about liking techno -- you don't have to hold your > > nose and buy major label releases, because there are none. > > > > > > On 1/19/07, David Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dont know if anyone else has seen this > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/arts/music/18dram.html?_r=2&oref > > > =slogin&oref=slogin > > > > > > Cheers > > > BT > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007
RE: (313) Music Room
Fibre? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:15 AM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Music Room > > I can't figure out what the skinny wires coming out of the amps are. > It's connected to the amp twice with what looks like a BNC connector. Simplex cables to the speakers at a guess... m -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 1/18/2007
RE: (313) Long Day In The Studio, When Manchester Came To Town
yeah but all that pagan/ spiritual stuff...and naked on stage...well it was all a bit prog rock i thought...and jack the tab...that sounds as bad as it ever did...at least the moddays had a laugh now and again... y were funky and had a sense of humour too, which > doesn't seem to have translated across the ocean - certainly more > memorable than your outfit! ;) > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 January 2007 22:38 > To: Martin Dust; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Long Day In The Studio, When Manchester Came To Town > > Yeah, well Tony Wilson can kiss my American butt. Any idiot with half a > brain knows that I was the greatest creator of a hybrid > AcidTechnoHouseRock band. But it is true that no American record > company wanted to support my vision. Happy Mondays were a complete > waste of time. Absolutely no groove whatsoever because they were so > f*cked up they couldn't play worth sh*t. > > Even on a rough night with Gen @ his egocentric worse, PTV 1988-1991 > towered above those Mancunian tossers. > > telepathic regards, > the kooky scientist > > > -- Original message -- > From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> You know how it goes, 4hrs listening to someone else tuning snares and > >> pads >> >> This made me laugh tho, Derrick should have kicked Allen's arse... >> >> New Music Seminar organised by Tony Wilson, held in New York. >> Featuring a cast of Tony Wilson himself, Keith Allen, Derrick May and >> Marshall Jefferson http://dewit.ca/archs/JD/New_York_Story.html >> >> m >> >> >> > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # >
RE: (313) What's happened to rhythms?
Isn't the point that at the moment there's a lot of minimal releases that sound like a lot of other minimal releases? And of course if you're not super into minimal then the 'subtle nuances' that differentiate each minimal release are kind of evasive... I liked that quote from that berlin/party dvd "they'll dance if you bang a spoon on a pan" or something along those lines...it sort of fits with what MEK finds unfathomable about this genre... -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) What's happened to rhythms? On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the emphasis on that kick and hihat it's difficult for my ear to > not focus on that. I know with minimal stuff there's tons of other > things going on but eventually, if things don't change up, that "boom > tsk" starts to get magnified until I'm ready to puke. Same goes with > any techno that sits on bang-bang-bang all night. Yawn. There's so > much of that sort of techno out as well. Too much sitting in one > place. Maybe it's just the instruments assigned to the patterns. > Imagine a drummer in a band that just played the same beat out on a > kick, a snare, and a hi-hat. I thought the funk was in the rhythm? i like minimal straight hats and kicks as much as the next man, but to me theyre most effective when mixed up with other beats and rhythms. a minimal acid cut sounds good all the time, but it REALLY sounds good when youre mixing it into some weird electro or disco cut. too few people are out there switching up the rhythms. detroit deejays are usually good for that kind of thing though, derrick may, shake, and theo parrish are extremely notable cats who will play all sorts of different rhythms and make the "boring" techno beat sound so good because of the juxtaposition. tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007
RE: (313) Strange DJ Requests/Happenings
Has anyone ever used the nearest vertical fader on the mixer thinking it was the turntable pitch control, moving it up in tiny increments thinking 'yeah it's almost in', as the out of sync track gets louder and louder. More than once in one night... -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 8:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Strange DJ Requests/Happenings Most people aren't DJs and don't think like DJs. All they really think about is, "play something I know, whether it fits in or not." 1. I was playing house and techno in a local lounge (Portland). The request was for the Beastie Boys. That's not a bad idea though it was the wrong time for it. 2. Playing in the Oakland Coliseum parking lot after a Grateful Dead show (we used to set up a sound system there and play one night of every three-night run, lots of fun actually). Same thing, I was playing some house stuff and got a request for Primus . . . at least they were local to the East Bay :) fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Strange DJ Requests/Happenings Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 21:01:05 -0500 Playing some slamming house beats at this party I was doing, and this girl comes up too me and says can you play something a little more dance-e... H www.vmax.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007
(313) Re: goodbye kidney's was (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern
3 day benders aren't very techno though are they...i always think of blake baxter and his mountain biking when i think of 313 recreation. Probably being german though they need to get that f*cked up just to relax..pity really...they'll all look middle aged at 25... > brophy is irish, we are used to our clubs closing just after the > witching hour. the excesses of berlin are a shock to the system. maybe > that's what has him troubled. > > his job is as a dance music journalist, so i suppose he has to search > for some meaning. > > as to middle age - i feel a bit out of place surrounded by all the > young fillies looking and pointing 'what's grandpa doing here?'. in > dublin, the age demographic in most clubs is young - darn young. > On 14/12/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm bemused as it seems he's only discovering that club land is great >> fun but not in fact that deep and meaningful! >> >> ...forget about trying to tell him its all about mastering the rat in >> the recesses of your mind as well as how to dance under the glitter ball >> ... >> >> (I can't wait to do it in middle age, by the way Aiden ;-) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 14 December 2006 11:51 >> To: Aidan O'Doherty; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern >> >> He sounds a little bit grumpy about it all to be honest. Berlin's >> clubbing history is utterly decadent so I'm not sure what he is >> expecting. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 13 December 2006 22:27 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) Berlin techno doc Feiern >> >> >> should clarify, the 'blissed out in berlin' piece is from irish dance >> music journalist richard brophy's blog: http://www.testindustries.com/ >> (october archives) >> >> >> >> On 13/12/06, Aidan O'Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > heard and then promptly forgot about it, here's where i learnt about >> > its existence: >> > >> > http://www.testindustries.com/ >> > >> > and the piece from it (october archives): >> > >> > >> > Blissed out in Berlin >> > >> > I've made my mind up: I don't want to live in Berlin. I had toyed with >> > the idea over the past few years because I have a lot of friends and >> > connections there, it's a world city with cheap prices and because I >> > speak German (blame it on my university degree), but having watched >> > the 'Feiern' DVD recently, I decided that to protect my mental and >> > physical well being, it would be better not to move to the German >> > capital. 'Feiern' (it means 'celebrate' or 'party' in German) is a >> > soon to be released documentary about the club/party scene in the city >> > and it features interviews with some of the scene's well-known names. >> > Villalobos and Luciano come across well enough - although Mr Nicolet >> > gives his Chilean compadre a dirty look when he says that partying is >> > like being part of a big happy family and why would you need kids? >> > (Luciano has two children and is very much a family man); Thilo from >> > Groove magazine's contributions about the infamous dark room in the >> > Panorama Bar are hilarious, and the story about the gay couple who >> > fall in love at a club and don't even notice that the lights are on >> > and the music is off is quite cute. Apart from that though, there is >> > something depressingly seedy about the rest of the contributors ( >> > don't get me wrong: I like seediness as much as anyone else, but not >> > four days a week). The girl who says that she feels like someone has >> > died as people drop off and go home on the third day of non-stop >> > partying needs to have a good long think about her life, and the gay >> > guy who says he thinks it's cool that all the couches are dirty in the >> > Panorama Bar because it makes him feel like a homeless person is funny >> > for all the wrong reasons. Most tellingly, nearly all of the party >> > people say that they will never be able to find true, lasting love out >> > on the dance floor in Berlin. That claim neatly sums up what's missing >> > from the lives laid bare on 'Feiern': nothing is lasting, everything >> > is transient. At some stage, the party ends, and as Ewan Pearson >> > points out, the most important thing to remember is not to forget to >> > go home. Unfortunately, it looks like that message has been lost on >> > the motley crew that constitute the cast of 'Feiern'... >> > >> > d and then forgot about it: >> > >> > >> > >> > On 13/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > Anyone seen this? Funny villalobos quote in the trailer. >> > > >> > > http://www.feiern-film.de/ >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> For ball-by-ball coverage, instant match reports and analysis follow the >> Ashes at www.telegraph.co.uk/ashes >> >> This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham >> Pala
RE: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up
Man those run dmc guys were funny eh? Walk this way, word is wank... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:51 AM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up The same could be said of you, to be fair, Mr Thomas 'I'm more street than Run DMC' D. Cox Jr Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2006 14:47 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up On 12/11/06, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to reinforce your position by citing historical examples of > it's use is irrelevant in this context. It is a false argument: You > are attempting to discredit my position by showing evidence for your > own. This is not a logical conclusion - there is no causal link between the two. You should debate more. I think you need the practise. there's no debate. youre someone who doesnt know what he's talking about, misusing phrases you dont understand from a culture youre not part of. "word is born" is meaningless nonsense, i dont care if Run DMC said it or not. does that make you look hiphop to use those rap words? f*ck you. tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006
RE: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=word+is+born -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:46 AM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up Yes it does, you great big silly Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2006 18:35 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=word+is+bond look how many entries there are for this one. and look how it is a phrase that has a history and actually makes sense. "word is born" makes no sense at all. tom On 12/9/06, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=word+is+born > - Original Message - > From: "Nik Stoltzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Thomas D. Cox, Jr.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:59 AM > Subject: RE: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up > > > > No, Tom: I mean 'word is born' as in, well, 'word is born' :D > > > > Maybe it is a derived from 'word is bond' but it is a phrase in it's > > own right and has been for at least 15-16 years. > > > > Word is still-born. > > > > N > > > > P.S: This is the first time Tom has ever spoken to me! He ain't so bad! > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: 09 December 2006 00:29 > >> To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: (313) Ben Sims hiphopfunkdiscosoulelectro mix up > >> > >> On 12/8/06, Nik Stoltzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > Word is born > >> > >> BTW, you mean "word is bond" as in "my word is my bond". > >> > >> my word really is bond, > >> tomm > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: > >> 08/12/2006 > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: > >> 08/12/2006 > >> > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: > > 08/12/2006 > > > > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006
[Fwd: Re: (313) ron murphy]
I wonder if he's actually referring to something in the mastering process, ie his terminology is based around his equipment...maybe he's looking at an oscilloscope or something while that track is playing back??? > In the context of the podcast (and the tracks he's talking about) it > sounds like he means something more like buildups and breakdowns. In > more 'proper' musical terms he's talking about adding layers of > instrumentation to increase both the volume level and musical > intensity. > > In 'proper' musical terminalogy, modulation means changing key > signature -- i.e. if a piece of music is in C, it's mostly played on > the notes CDEFGAB, if it's in G, G A B C D E F# G, in D, D E F# G A B > C# etc. The tracks Ron's talking about don't do that. > > > On 9/21/06, Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Do you know what he means by modulates upwards? >> >
