Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-04 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Kent Williams wrote on Fri, 3 Mar 2006 about following:


2. Tom is opinionated, and sometimes even abrasive, but 'his way or
the highway?'  Please, Tom has no such power here. Feel free to
disagree.


Well I think he just said what he thinks, he's entitled to that; if 
people get annoyed over such thing it's a shame. Then again, opinions 
are the best reason to disagree and wage war.


I'm even worse than him, although I occasionally like to troll a bit, 
just to wake people up. I'm think I'm bitter old man ;)


People shouln't take things too seriously, but sometimes they do. 
(including me)



So, any good techno stuff out lately that isn't married to progressive, 
minimal or tech? preferably funky, groovy? I've really been buying 
mostly house lately and I think my techno collection is lacking a bit 
some fresh stuff.



cheers,
sakke


Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/2/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 man you'll hate on anything

nah, only wack sh*t. like frankie bones. are you a fan of his? wouldnt
suprise me

tom


(313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Poivrenoir

tomm wrote...
it also should be pointed out that frankie is a moron, and an
egomaniac. and on top of it his music is bad (even dating back to the
4th floor and nu groove stuff, which i usually dig!) and his deejaying
is even worse. that guy needs to take his raver squad and go take a
really long walk off a very short pier.

tomm

What the hell was that? How can you say even half of that? Music bad? Are you 
kidding me? His ego or not, that was totally ignorant.
Steve


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What the hell was that? How can you say even half of that? Music bad? Are you 
 kidding
me? His ego or not, that was totally ignorant.

was it? i dont agree. for me, the goodness of a record is the great
equalizer in my eyes. my mortal enemy could put out a record, and if
its hot, ill buy it. i own not a single record that had anything to do
with frankie bones, unless some of his stuff was on the nu groove comp
i picked up a little while back. ive passed on every single record
with his name on it.

tom


Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread /0

I'm a fan of yours, toughguy


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


On 3/2/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

man you'll hate on anything


nah, only wack sh*t. like frankie bones. are you a fan of his? wouldnt
suprise me

tom


Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Fred Heutte
Frankie's DEMF set a couple years ago was just horrible.  He was
much better at the afterparty last year.  There's a funny story
about how they managed to get him to the venue.  But Frankie
at least came to play last year.  I have a cool photo I took with
my very low-fi cellphone camera which kind of suits his low-fi
track style.

The stories about the Storm parties are deservedly legendary.
I have friends who really were there.  Frankie is one of a kind.

I'll always appreciate Frankie for wearing a UR t-shirt for the pic
in his big interview in DJ Times magazine in about 1997 (sadly
the archives don't go back that far online) -- the one for mobile
DJs that somehow managed to snag cover interviews with the likes
of Carl Craig, Frankie and Joey Beltram.  In Joey's interview they
asked him about IDM.  Intelligent techno? he said.  I don't do
that.  I do stupid techno!

Fred



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Stewart Caig

was it? i dont agree. for me, the goodness of a record is the great

equalizer in my eyes. my mortal enemy could put out a record, and if
its hot, ill buy it. i own not a single record that had anything to do
with frankie bones, unless some of his stuff was on the nu groove comp
i picked up a little while back. ive passed on every single record
with his name on it.

Well maybe he overused some of the let the bass kick samples back in the 
day, but I kinda grew up on a lot of his nu groove/bones breaks/loony 
tunes/musto and bones stuff. Yeah it was never overly sophisticated or even 
particularly original, but it was that New York sound that I associated with 
guys like Bones, Lenny Dee and even Todd Terry back then. Yeah he has done a 
lot of ravey stuff, but tracks like 'you are the one' still sound pretty 
dope to me today.





RE: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Hudson
You are welcome have those thoughts on Frankie Bones. However, to imply
that you own every hot record ever made is a bit egotistic in itself!

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 March 2006 01:31
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What the hell was that? How can you say even half of that? Music bad?
Are you kidding
me? His ego or not, that was totally ignorant.

was it? i dont agree. for me, the goodness of a record is the great
equalizer in my eyes. my mortal enemy could put out a record, and if
its hot, ill buy it. i own not a single record that had anything to do
with frankie bones, unless some of his stuff was on the nu groove comp
i picked up a little while back. ive passed on every single record
with his name on it.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely a lurker, but 
tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the wrong way. how many 
arguments in the past have been started or involved the abrasive philadelphian? 
it seems to be his way or the highway.  

- Original Message -
From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, March 3, 2006 11:22 am
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

 It's an interesting point and you guys should just chill a bit 
 around 
 Tom...but back to the point - I don't think I've ever bought a 
 record 
 that isn't hot either, who buys records that are rubbish?
 
 
 On 3 Mar 2006, at 10:57, Paul Hudson wrote:
 
  You are welcome have those thoughts on Frankie Bones. However, 
 to imply
  that you own every hot record ever made is a bit egotistic in 
 itself!
 



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Dust
i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely a  
lurker, but tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the  
wrong way. how many arguments in the past have been started or  
involved the abrasive philadelphian? it seems to be his way or the  
highway.


There's no way I'm getting into an argument about how much Tom argues,  
at least he has a opinion - may not always be right or to your taste  
but



Here some mixes

[quote=mixmaster morris,3 Mar 2006, 05:18]
some detroit mixes online:

stacey pullen 2002 @ chemistry
http://www.chemistry.nl/music/images/ 
9fc725202441eb999ec09c187a216992.mp3


carl craig @ Redzone
http://basiclanguage.net/download/Red%20Zone%20Club%202005.01.05.MP3

carl craig @ kindergarden
http://basiclanguage.net/download/Carl_Craig_live_at_Kindergarten.mp3

claude young detroit mastermix 2004
http://basiclanguage.net/download/CY%20- 
%20%20Detroit%20Mastermix%202004%20pt1.mp3


underground resistance 2005 novamix
http://basiclanguage.net/download/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


theo parrish  rick white 2006
http://basiclanguage.net/download/Theo_Parrish_and_Rick_Wilhite_1.mp3

underground resistance live @ limelight 2002
http://basiclanguage.net/download/live%20at%20limelight.mp3



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Ian Cheshire
wicked links, thanks for those :)

 i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely a
 lurker, but tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the
 wrong way. how many arguments in the past have been started or
 involved the abrasive philadelphian? it seems to be his way or the
 highway.

 There's no way I'm getting into an argument about how much Tom argues,
 at least he has a opinion - may not always be right or to your taste
 but


 Here some mixes

 [quote=mixmaster morris,3 Mar 2006, 05:18]
 some detroit mixes online:

 stacey pullen 2002 @ chemistry
 http://www.chemistry.nl/music/images/
 9fc725202441eb999ec09c187a216992.mp3

 carl craig @ Redzone
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/Red%20Zone%20Club%202005.01.05.MP3

 carl craig @ kindergarden
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/Carl_Craig_live_at_Kindergarten.mp3

 claude young detroit mastermix 2004
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/CY%20-
 %20%20Detroit%20Mastermix%202004%20pt1.mp3

 underground resistance 2005 novamix
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 theo parrish  rick white 2006
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/Theo_Parrish_and_Rick_Wilhite_1.mp3

 underground resistance live @ limelight 2002
 http://basiclanguage.net/download/live%20at%20limelight.mp3





-- 
www.midnightbeats.de
www.reactor-bookings.com
www.aonpromotions.com
www.kube72.com




Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Kent Williams
1. Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia. You might as well says someone from
Galway is from Dublin!

2. Tom is opinionated, and sometimes even abrasive, but 'his way or
the highway?'  Please, Tom has no such power here. Feel free to
disagree.

3. I never paid attention to NY techno. When it comes to Frankies from
NY, I'm more Knuckles than Bones.

On 3/3/06, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely a lurker, but
 tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the wrong way. how many
 arguments in the past have been started or involved the abrasive 
 philadelphian?
 it seems to be his way or the highway.



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Stewart Caig
 3. I never paid attention to NY techno. When it comes to Frankies from
NY, I'm more Knuckles than Bones.

I interviewed Frankie about 5 years ago and he told me that even as late as
89/90 the Detroit stuff hadn't really reached NY, he had not really heard of
techno and his main inspirations were still house, electro, disco and hip
hop. Don't know how much truth there was to that, but I guess to even
consider it NY techno is something of a compliment if it was truly produced
in a vacume from Detroit.


- Original Message - 
From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


1. Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia. You might as well says someone from
Galway is from Dublin!

2. Tom is opinionated, and sometimes even abrasive, but 'his way or
the highway?'  Please, Tom has no such power here. Feel free to
disagree.

3. I never paid attention to NY techno. When it comes to Frankies from
NY, I'm more Knuckles than Bones.

On 3/3/06, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely a lurker,
but
 tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the wrong way. how
many
 arguments in the past have been started or involved the abrasive
philadelphian?
 it seems to be his way or the highway.




Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
1 my mistake, thought he was from philadelphia. 

2 i have disagreed with him in the recent past (over his comments about tejada)

3 actually, i agree with you about bones and the ny stuff. it's not my bag 
either, but opinions are like a**holes, everyone blah, blah, blah, blah . . . . 
.

aidannn

btw, 'i like cox'

- Original Message -
From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, March 3, 2006 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

 1. Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia. You might as well says someone from
 Galway is from Dublin!
 
 2. Tom is opinionated, and sometimes even abrasive, but 'his way or
 the highway?'  Please, Tom has no such power here. Feel free to
 disagree.
 
 3. I never paid attention to NY techno. When it comes to Frankies from
 NY, I'm more Knuckles than Bones.
 
 On 3/3/06, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i know my opinion counts for nought on this list, as i am merely 
 a lurker, but
  tom's extremely opinionated attitude can rub people up the wrong 
 way. how many
  arguments in the past have been started or involved the abrasive 
 philadelphian? it seems to be his way or the highway.
 
 



RE: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Eh?  Where the f*ck did you get that? I don't think he was implying that at
all.
Music is the great equalizer = doesn't matter if what he thinks of Bones'
personality, if the music is good he'll buy it.
He hasn't heard anything by Bones that he likes so he doesn't buy them.
Add F. Bones' personae on top of that - apparently Tom doesn't like much
about him.
Fair enough.

I swear - people looking for a fight where there isn't one.

By the way, just to keep the record straight, I own every hot record ever
made.  ;-)

MEK


   
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You are welcome have those thoughts on Frankie Bones. However, to imply
that you own every hot record ever made is a bit egotistic in itself!

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 March 2006 01:31
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What the hell was that? How can you say even half of that? Music bad?
Are you kidding
me? His ego or not, that was totally ignorant.

was it? i dont agree. for me, the goodness of a record is the great
equalizer in my eyes. my mortal enemy could put out a record, and if
its hot, ill buy it. i own not a single record that had anything to do
with frankie bones, unless some of his stuff was on the nu groove comp
i picked up a little while back. ive passed on every single record
with his name on it.

tom




Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight



I swear - people looking for a fight where there isn't one.




Nah, that ain't it.  People are just sick of his abrasive, aggro,
my-way-or-the-highway, high'n'mighty, tyrannical sh!t, and giving
back what they been gettin'.

seek



RE: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Robert Taylor
I'm not - I think it's funny - it's just the way Tom is. 

-Original Message-
From: seek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 March 2006 17:36
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight

 I swear - people looking for a fight where there isn't one.



Nah, that ain't it.  People are just sick of his abrasive, aggro,
my-way-or-the-highway, high'n'mighty, tyrannical sh!t, and giving back
what they been gettin'.

seek



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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Taylor 

I'm not - I think it's funny - it's just the way Tom is. 


==


God bless America.












-Original Message-
From: seek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 March 2006 17:36

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram


- Original Message -
From: Michael.Elliot-Knight


I swear - people looking for a fight where there isn't one.




Nah, that ain't it.  People are just sick of his abrasive, aggro,
my-way-or-the-highway, high'n'mighty, tyrannical sh!t, and giving back
what they been gettin'.

seek



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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nah, that ain't it.  People are just sick of his abrasive, aggro,
 my-way-or-the-highway, high'n'mighty, tyrannical sh!t, and giving
 back what they been gettin'.

i think its great that one can be tyrannical by posting on an email
list. next thing you know ill be setting up death camps and sh*t.
there's no stopping me.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I interviewed Frankie about 5 years ago and he told me that even as late as
 89/90 the Detroit stuff hadn't really reached NY, he had not really heard of
 techno and his main inspirations were still house, electro, disco and hip
 hop. Don't know how much truth there was to that, but I guess to even
 consider it NY techno is something of a compliment if it was truly produced
 in a vacume from Detroit.

you dont think thats why he would say something like that? if he
could, he would convince the world that he invented music in general.
its just part of his trying to build himself up into something else.

and if it is true, that pops a hole in his ive been deejaying since
the dawn of time, i have 70 billion records, etc etc nonsense if he
was sleeping on all the detroit output that late. LATE.

honestly, theres not a word that comes out of the dood's mouth that
isnt intended to big himself up and mislead people.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

Stewart Caig  wrote:

I interviewed Frankie about 5 years ago and he told me that even as late as
89/90 the Detroit stuff hadn't really reached NY, he had not really heard of
techno and his main inspirations were still house, electro, disco and hip
hop. Don't know how much truth there was to that, but I guess to even
consider it NY techno is something of a compliment if it was truly produced
in a vacume from Detroit.


you dont think thats why he would say something like that? if he
could, he would convince the world that he invented music in general.
its just part of his trying to build himself up into something else.




Were you there in the '80s?   Thought not.   stfu





Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Were you there in the '80s?   Thought not.   stfu

uh, no. what, are you and frankie gonna get all brooklyn and send an
army of italian doods to pgh to get me? im scared! just like im still
scared of bone. all these thugs in dance music amuse me.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. 
seek wrote:

Were you there in the '80s?   Thought not.   stfu


uh, no. 


tom
==


Ok, just keep shootin' your fool mouth off, then:
you've admitted it: you don't really know what you're talking about.










Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, Francis Gosselin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're totally right, Tom.

 Besides, if he really dug electro, wouldn't he own all the early Model 500 /
 Cybotron stuff, thus being in the know of Detroit stuff anyway?

 Also, just because Techno did not reach HIM that early, it doesn't mean the
 rest of NYC was oblivious to it. It's a big city with lots of people in it.
 ;)

all i know is that he cant have it both ways. he cant be mr i created
NYC techno in a vacuum while also being mr i am the best deejay of
all time ive been doing it since day 1 and have every record since the
day they came out.  if he was indeed on top of things, he was
influenced by detroit since they invented it. even if he was listening
to the chicago end of things, those guys were playing detroit records
too.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. 


On 3/3/06, seek wrote:


Were you there in the '80s?   Thought not.   stfu


uh, no. what, are you and frankie gonna get all brooklyn and send an
army of italian doods to pgh to get me? im scared! just like im still
scared of bone. all these thugs in dance music amuse me.
==


Tough guy, you spend a lot of time and energy on this list making threats
and applauding physical violence.   You got some 'size' issues, maybe?



In TOTALLY CLASSIC fashion, derrick stepped in front of the tables and
in one swift move, he blasted the guy in the chest with both of his
hands and threw him off of the stage!  The stage was about 6 feet high.


naw, but if youd like i can set up a stage and you can drop by so i
can throw you off



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, just keep shootin' your fool mouth off, then:

i will!

3,
tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. 

all i know is that he cant have it both ways. he cant be 
blahblahblahblah


==


Frankie Bones can be whatever he wants to, as far as DJing:
he's got gigs.  What do you have?  A big mouth, a keyboard,
and an interenet connection.

Nuff said.






Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tough guy, you spend a lot of time and energy on this list making threats
 and applauding physical violence.   You got some 'size' issues, maybe?

i only applaud physical violence when its called for.

  In TOTALLY CLASSIC fashion, derrick stepped in front of the tables and
  in one swift move, he blasted the guy in the chest with both of his
  hands and threw him off of the stage!  The stage was about 6 feet high.

 naw, but if youd like i can set up a stage and you can drop by so i
 can throw you off

case in point: you! sucker.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frankie Bones can be whatever he wants to, as far as DJing:
 he's got gigs.  What do you have?  A big mouth, a keyboard,
 and an interenet connection.

 Nuff said.

and tiesto has even more gigs than frankie does? should i give a sh*t
about him too? as always, your logic is fantastic. good luck with
that.

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Ben Britz
make it stop

On 3/3/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Frankie Bones can be whatever he wants to, as far as DJing:
  he's got gigs.  What do you have?  A big mouth, a keyboard,
  and an interenet connection.
 
  Nuff said.

 and tiesto has even more gigs than frankie does? should i give a sh*t
 about him too? as always, your logic is fantastic. good luck with
 that.

 tom



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Dan Bean
Could you take this off list please.


RE: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Jason Trolian
Could this be anymore OT?

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:54 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

On 3/3/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frankie Bones can be whatever he wants to, as far as DJing:
 he's got gigs.  What do you have?  A big mouth, a keyboard, and an 
 interenet connection.

 Nuff said.

and tiesto has even more gigs than frankie does? should i give a sh*t about
him too? as always, your logic is fantastic. good luck with that.

tom



Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/3/06, Jason Trolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could this be anymore OT?

you should make another OT post to contribute to it after multiple
other people have already said the same thing. that will help. thanks!

tom


Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread DB
The funny thing about this, is I live in PORTLAND, OR.  And the Detroit 
Techno thing was reaching HERE in 87/88/89. I remember when the records 
were coming into OOZE where I was working at the time.   So it's good to 
know that little old Portland, OR was ahead of NY...  I'd say he was 
sleeping... if he wasn't noticing what was happening.



Dave


Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

On 3/3/06, Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I interviewed Frankie about 5 years ago and he told me that even as late as
89/90 the Detroit stuff hadn't really reached NY, he had not really heard of
techno and his main inspirations were still house, electro, disco and hip
hop. Don't know how much truth there was to that, but I guess to even
consider it NY techno is something of a compliment if it was truly produced
in a vacume from Detroit.



you dont think thats why he would say something like that? if he
could, he would convince the world that he invented music in general.
its just part of his trying to build himself up into something else.

and if it is true, that pops a hole in his ive been deejaying since
the dawn of time, i have 70 billion records, etc etc nonsense if he
was sleeping on all the detroit output that late. LATE.

honestly, theres not a word that comes out of the dood's mouth that
isnt intended to big himself up and mislead people.

tom




Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread seek


- Original Message - 
From: DB 



The funny thing about this, is I live in PORTLAND, OR.  And the Detroit 
Techno thing was reaching HERE in 87/88/89. I remember when the records 
were coming into OOZE where I was working at the time.   So it's good to 
know that little old Portland, OR was ahead of NY...  I'd say he was 
sleeping... if he wasn't noticing what was happening.

Dave



Frankie noticed; he never sleeps.

Portland was very fortunate: there weren't
many record stores as good as Ooze, back
then, anywhere in the US.  Tiny place, 
filled to the gills with goodness/weirdness.  Charles

is amazing: on top of all sorts of music.   Anal Solvent!!!   ;)

O-zone is a very worthwhile successor.  That used
place across the street on Burnside has good stuff, too.

Also, P.Ore had Reese Pursell working at 2nd St; he did tons for
electronic dance music in P.Ore.   Any idea where Reese is today?  
He left Astralwerks sometime ago.


seek





RE: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Lee Herrington
I don't know.  This does spice up an otherwise dull Friday afternoon.

np - war on woodward ave. [rick wilhite]



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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread fab.

i dunno lee, are you really sure about this?
all im feeling are bad vibes

take it easy my friend, 
fab



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I don't know.  This does spice up an otherwise dull Friday afternoon.

np - war on woodward ave. [rick wilhite]



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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, regardless of what you're feeling stop hogging the popcorn.

MEK


   
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i dunno lee, are you really sure about this?
all im feeling are bad vibes

take it easy my friend,
fab


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I don't know.  This does spice up an otherwise dull Friday afternoon.

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Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread fab.

its gone stale man, sorry
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Well, regardless of what you're feeling stop hogging the popcorn.

MEK



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i dunno lee, are you really sure about this?
all im feeling are bad vibes

take it easy my friend,
fab


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I don't know.  This does spice up an otherwise dull Friday afternoon.

np - war on woodward ave. [rick wilhite]



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(313) Re : Re: (313) Re : Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-03 Thread Poivrenoir
Martin wrote:
It's an interesting point and you guys should just chill a bit around 
Tom...but back to the point - I don't think I've ever bought a record 
that isn't hot either, who buys records that are rubbish?

I don't buy what I think is rubbish, but I don't believe that was his point. 
Plus like some one said before Frankie Bones is more then the music. I do not 
have many of his records, but I have been to alot of great parties where he 
spiun or his records were playing. And I haven't actually met anyone thus far 
who would claim Bones as a jerk. I would definitly say that I have been more 
then once been inspired by his interviews and his actions. He is not my techno 
God, but he is one of the pieces of the my good memories of parties and techno. 
That thread is funny. And I think Beltram wins the arguement. But to bash 
Bones, out here, in this way, is very disrespectful. 
Have a nice day,
Steve


(313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Lists @ Inaudible
If you want an amusing read, visit the link below for a all-out flame  
war between DJ Frankie Bones and Joey Beltram. Quite the old-skool  
verbal scrap!

http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=91028


Lance @ Inaudible
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States





RE: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Quite fascinating ('names' in electronic music) a bit sad (they're
squabbling over the equivalent of who forgot to put the cat out) and
like a car crash (horrible but compelling - at the same time.)

...

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Subject: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

If you want an amusing read, visit the link below for a all-out flame  
war between DJ Frankie Bones and Joey Beltram. Quite the old-skool  
verbal scrap!
http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=91028


Lance @ Inaudible
6099 Creekside Lane
North Ridgeville, OH 44039
United States




RE: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
unreal isn't but what excellent reading! loved it :)

 Quite fascinating ('names' in electronic music) a bit sad (they're
 squabbling over the equivalent of who forgot to put the cat out) and
 like a car crash (horrible but compelling - at the same time.)

 ...

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 Subject: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

 If you want an amusing read, visit the link below for a all-out flame
 war between DJ Frankie Bones and Joey Beltram. Quite the old-skool
 verbal scrap!
 http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=91028


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Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread fab.
i find it a little sad really, grown men scrapping over events that happened 
16 years ago as if their reputations still depended on it.


fab.

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unreal isn't but what excellent reading! loved it :)


Quite fascinating ('names' in electronic music) a bit sad (they're
squabbling over the equivalent of who forgot to put the cat out) and
like a car crash (horrible but compelling - at the same time.)

...

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war between DJ Frankie Bones and Joey Beltram. Quite the old-skool
verbal scrap!
http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=91028


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RE: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I want to know is what the heck I've been doing over here on this
losers forum when I could have been hanging out with the stars.
I'm off, was nice meeting you all.



Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, I can see where Mr Beltram might get upset eventhough it happened 16
years ago but Bones is telling kids *today* how much of a role he had in
making Beltram's career.  I think Beltram sees Bones re-writing history to
suit his ego/needs.

I have a good friend who is going through the same thing in a way.  A
rather famous producer/DJ who came in late to the game but proceeded to
reassign concepts and trademarked names so that he would benefit from them
once my friend was out of the scene without ever giving credit to the
person from whom he stole them from.
I can tell you that if you're the person whose history is being rewritten
in such a manner it really p!sses you off.  Doesn't matter how ancient the
history may be.


MEK


   
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i find it a little sad really, grown men scrapping over events that
happened
16 years ago as if their reputations still depended on it.

fab.

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 unreal isn't but what excellent reading! loved it :)

 Quite fascinating ('names' in electronic music) a bit sad (they're
 squabbling over the equivalent of who forgot to put the cat out) and
 like a car crash (horrible but compelling - at the same time.)

 ...

 -Original Message-
 From: Lists @ Inaudible [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 02 March 2006 15:36
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

 If you want an amusing read, visit the link below for a all-out flame
 war between DJ Frankie Bones and Joey Beltram. Quite the old-skool
 verbal scrap!
 http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic?topic_id=91028


 Lance @ Inaudible
 6099 Creekside Lane
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Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I can see where Mr Beltram might get upset eventhough it happened 16
 years ago but Bones is telling kids *today* how much of a role he had in
 making Beltram's career.  I think Beltram sees Bones re-writing history to
 suit his ego/needs.

 I have a good friend who is going through the same thing in a way.  A
 rather famous producer/DJ who came in late to the game but proceeded to
 reassign concepts and trademarked names so that he would benefit from them
 once my friend was out of the scene without ever giving credit to the
 person from whom he stole them from.
 I can tell you that if you're the person whose history is being rewritten
 in such a manner it really p!sses you off.  Doesn't matter how ancient the
 history may be.

it also should be pointed out that frankie is a moron, and an
egomaniac. and on top of it his music is bad (even dating back to the
4th floor and nu groove stuff, which i usually dig!) and his deejaying
is even worse. that guy needs to take his raver squad and go take a
really long walk off a very short pier.

tomm


Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread Kent Williams
Aw c'mon Tom, tell us how you really feel!

On 3/2/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 it also should be pointed out that frankie is a moron, and an
 egomaniac. and on top of it his music is bad (even dating back to the
 4th floor and nu groove stuff, which i usually dig!) and his deejaying
 is even worse. that guy needs to take his raver squad and go take a
 really long walk off a very short pier.

 tomm



Re: (313) DJ Frankie Bones vs Joey Beltram

2006-03-02 Thread /0

man you'll hate on anything
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Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:44 PM
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On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, I can see where Mr Beltram might get upset eventhough it happened 16
years ago but Bones is telling kids *today* how much of a role he had in
making Beltram's career.  I think Beltram sees Bones re-writing history to
suit his ego/needs.

I have a good friend who is going through the same thing in a way.  A
rather famous producer/DJ who came in late to the game but proceeded to
reassign concepts and trademarked names so that he would benefit from them
once my friend was out of the scene without ever giving credit to the
person from whom he stole them from.
I can tell you that if you're the person whose history is being rewritten
in such a manner it really p!sses you off.  Doesn't matter how ancient the
history may be.


it also should be pointed out that frankie is a moron, and an
egomaniac. and on top of it his music is bad (even dating back to the
4th floor and nu groove stuff, which i usually dig!) and his deejaying
is even worse. that guy needs to take his raver squad and go take a
really long walk off a very short pier.

tomm