Re: FW: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
UR also obviously use the term "hi tech jazz". jazz=soul=funk though, right? tom On 10/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess this is probably what I'm thinking of. Not doing well in the past couple of days am I? Pass me the 313 dummy hat. > i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are > plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech > soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check > the label of this release for instance
FW: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
I guess this is probably what I'm thinking of. Not doing well in the past couple of days am I? Pass me the 313 dummy hat. > i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are > plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech > soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check > the label of this release for instance
RE: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
Isn't that when he released that 'collaboration' with DJ Cello? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2006 16:04 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) to extend/clarify the * both derrick may and stacey pullen lived for a year in amsterdam, aroudn 93/94 and indeed hang out a lot with dimitri/outland posse (en voor de echte details... geldersekade no 6) - Original Message - From: "jurren baars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) > Cyclone Wehner wrote: >> >>I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't >>claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere >>too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the >>whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? >> > eddie fowlkes used the term "techno soul" > (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) > > the term "high tech soul" has been used by dutch dj dimitri > since the early 90ies for his club night "hi-tech soul > movement". at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) > here's a mix cd under that name: > http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 > > i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there > are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term > high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term > hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: > http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=20055 ) > m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the > hi-tech funk sound. > > *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam > in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as > to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record > together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and > both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's > "landcruising" lp). derrick may probably played one or more > times on dimitri's night at the roxy. > > jurren # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
to extend/clarify the * both derrick may and stacey pullen lived for a year in amsterdam, aroudn 93/94 and indeed hang out a lot with dimitri/outland posse (en voor de echte details... geldersekade no 6) - Original Message - From: "jurren baars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term "techno soul" (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term "high tech soul" has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night "hi-tech soul movement". at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's "landcruising" lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren
(313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term "techno soul" (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term "high tech soul" has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night "hi-tech soul movement". at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's "landcruising" lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren
Re: (313) DM Update
I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? On 04/10/2006, at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not just him that uses the term, though I confess I don't know who started it. I first came across it in connection with UR records - things like Turning Point so I guess that colours my view of what people mean by it. So isn't Hi-Tech-Soul just his take on what Techno is? If it's his take, then what he plays is therefore Hi-Tech-Soul. I've not really heard the term used much but I think it kinda sums up Techno quite well (without wishing this to turn into what is Techno thread!) Yeah - sums up what it should be!
RE: (313) DM Update
It's not just him that uses the term, though I confess I don't know who started it. I first came across it in connection with UR records - things like Turning Point so I guess that colours my view of what people mean by it. > So isn't Hi-Tech-Soul just his take on what Techno is? If it's his > take, then what he plays is therefore Hi-Tech-Soul. I've not really > heard the term used much but I think it kinda sums up Techno quite > well (without wishing this to turn into what is Techno thread!) Yeah - sums up what it should be!
Re: (313) DM Update
yes greg = proper legend tip: if he stays at your house get plenty of instant coffee & biscuits in ; ) On 10/4/06, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually Greg Wilson is playing a reel to reel thing here in a couple of > weeks, again to tie in with Red Bull. Should be great! We had him at a night we were doing last year. Defintely worth a check, he's a true legend and his approach is unique (he uses CDs, laptop (PCDJ software) and the reel to reel). > I heard a little > rumour that FK freaked out when he heard Greg - first DJ in ages who > unnerved him. Cool hey! haha cool robin...
Re: (313) DM Update
Actually Greg Wilson is playing a reel to reel thing here in a couple of weeks, again to tie in with Red Bull. Should be great! We had him at a night we were doing last year. Defintely worth a check, he's a true legend and his approach is unique (he uses CDs, laptop (PCDJ software) and the reel to reel). I heard a little rumour that FK freaked out when he heard Greg - first DJ in ages who unnerved him. Cool hey! haha cool robin...
Re: (313) DM Update
Actually Greg Wilson is playing a reel to reel thing here in a couple of weeks, again to tie in with Red Bull. Should be great! I heard a little rumour that FK freaked out when he heard Greg - first DJ in ages who unnerved him. Cool hey! On 04/10/2006, at 1:05 AM, robin wrote: He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar to Surgeon or Nick Wilson. I agree. It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks. Luddite :) Would you object to it being done on CDs or decks that weren't technics? Or even it being a reel to reel tape edit, isn't that more authentic? :) robin...
Re: (313) DM Update
He explained the term at the Red Bull lecture last Thurs - you may wanna keep an eye on www.redbullacademy.com cos they may archive it. He said it was the "offspring" of techno. "I'm also touring the world every week to play any and everywhere to expose this amazing thing called Techno (Hi-Tech-Soul)" So isn't Hi-Tech-Soul just his take on what Techno is? If it's his take, then what he plays is therefore Hi-Tech-Soul. I've not really heard the term used much but I think it kinda sums up Techno quite well (without wishing this to turn into what is Techno thread!) This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
Re: (313) DM Update
It's actually quite a nice mix. It's linear but very fine, a deep techno set. On 04/10/2006, at 1:57 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Blimey - a Marco Bailey track on an Kevorkian mix - I never thought I'd see the day. Another once great DJ playing rubbish techno. :( Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update Acoording to the Discogs entry, that track is credited to DM and FK: http://www.discogs.com/release/730792 On 10/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can hear his song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix of it. Oh and he's doing an opera. ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
Re: (313) DM Update
Yes it is. Funny cos Derrick isn't crazy about the track - he reckons he could have done more with it. It's definitely both - they did it as a demo in Japan and FK finished it. Derrick is more of a perfectionist than people think so he says he may do a remix. It's been licensed also for the new Rockstar Tennis Table game thing. I think it's a great track. I'm unsure if it's coming out on vinyl. It's on the FK mix CD anyway. Someone played it off that on Melbourne's Kiss FM a couple of weeks ago - actually list member Askew. On 04/10/2006, at 12:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can hear his song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix of it. Oh and he's doing an opera.
Re: (313) DM Update
OK, I didn't answer the question - I'm not sure where specifically Ken has heard Derrick, I wasn't at his gig. But I know DJs vary from place to place. I used to fly up to catch Stacey or whoever at Sydney gigs and they were never as out-there in Sydney as here and that was largely as they were playing commercial clubs. It was like a different DJ. Derrick's agent/manager lives here at present so he has much more control over the venues and so he always encourages Derrick to play what he wants. One of the best sets I saw Derrick play was in Detroit at the Works and that was like he plays here. Maybe that doesn't answer the question either but to be fair to the DJ you have to consider where he's playing and how he's responding to the crowd in that place and their preparedness to accept something deeper or whatever the case may be. On 04/10/2006, at 12:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah but you haven't answered Ken's specific point: We all (OK somebody on here won't, but ignore that) love Derrick May. His place in history is unquestioned. History aside, looking at him today, as a DJ the way he put's things together is still great and he DJ's with fantastic energy meaning it's a pleasure to go and see him. And on that site he's making all the right noises. BUT: although he's still a top spinner in technique, energy and programming the records he does play when I (and presumably Ken) have heard him over the last few years these records are flat sounding looped tech / std. tech house kind of things that most of us do not associate with "high tech soul" - in fact the kind of records the term is maybe meant to indicate an alternative to. Disclaimers: I am not hating on Derrick May. I personally do not tend to use the term "high tech soul" but am a grouch who insists on standing by the word "techno" even when I make life hard for myself by doing so. I did say "when I have heard him over the last few years" - maybe he's rocking sweet soul music, bizarre beats and twisted tracks at other gaffs (but at the end of all this that was the original question - has anyone heard him doing so? Give us a run down of what he plays Thursday). -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 06:35 To: Odeluga, Ken Yeah you're wrong. ;) Seriously, I've seen him play some of the best parties ever. Even ?uestlove raves about him and there's a dude who loves his music. I can't think of another DJ with that kind of presence - though I have a few favourites. You should fly over and hang with us at the Corner on Thursday. He will definitely play HTS. On 02/10/2006, at 9:15 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken
Re: (313) DM Update
No it's true. It could be really subversive and good, why? Philip Glass did one. This could be really interesting. On 03/10/2006, at 7:35 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 01:28 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Wes Prince; 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update Oh and he's doing an opera. On 02/10/2006, at 9:49 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: Yeah, but any NEW material? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 10:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: http://www.derrickmay.com/ # # ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # ### ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
Re: (313) DM Update
his mix on the breezeblock recently wasn't half bad you know and i love the way he cuts it saying that, i'm in no hurry to go to see him & fk at the misery next month.. On 10/2/06, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: > http://www.derrickmay.com/ > >
FW: (313) DM Update
Well that's that then! An argument (not even that) I'm happy to lose. I just wish he'd get a bit wackier when I see him. Think I'm going to have to go to him & FK here in November now you've said that. Although maybe that's not the best gig for variety as it may well be quite in the nature of the FK CD being discussed (though I have listened to that quite a few times while decorating recently at home!). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 October 2006 16:09 > > > I did say "when I have heard him over the last few years" - > maybe he's > > rocking sweet soul music, bizarre beats and twisted tracks at other > > gaffs (but at the end of all this that was the original > question - has > > anyone heard him doing so? > > Yes, I have. He's been here twice in the last, er maybe three years? > The first time he played across the board - deep house, > disco, tribal techno, classic Detroit cuts, big room > Saunderson style stuff, etc. > Then, as a break down toward the end of the set, he played > some jazz thing. > I mean jazz - not some "jazzy" house track. Not like bop but > more kind of a fusion track. It wasn't mixed either - he just > played it - gaps on both ends. Big breathing space. Then > brought in some more house/disco and continued to ramp it up > (if memory serves me right) for another 30-45 minutes until the end. > > Overall, I think it was better than the last time he played > here - which was more standard techno with some house w/vocal > samples here and there. > > MEK > >
RE: FW: (313) DM Update
True, he was killer that night and used his Laptop well and his track
selection was all over the place, not like the mix mentioned below.
Proves my point really.
;O)
-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:15
To: Paul Kendrick; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
yeah but Paul, I remember you and I seeing him at Plastic People using a
laptop, and don't recall you berating him!
It was more blatant fanboyness if I remember correctly!
;)
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:12
To: Toby Frith; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Shut up. ;O)
Laptops should be for using properly not for lazyness. He has the skills
- use them.
Reel to reel would be better though.
He's to busy selling kebabs out the side of the DJ booth, extra chill
anyone.
-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:08
To: Paul Kendrick; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Paul, I don't remember there being any rules to mixing...
;)
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:06
To: robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using
a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar
to Surgeon or Nick Wilson.
It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks.
-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59
To: Paul Kendrick
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update
It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor.
robin...
Paul Kendrick wrote:
> I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done
> in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks..
>
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RE: FW: (313) DM Update
yeah but Paul, I remember you and I seeing him at Plastic People using a
laptop, and don't recall you berating him!
It was more blatant fanboyness if I remember correctly!
;)
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From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:12
To: Toby Frith; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Shut up. ;O)
Laptops should be for using properly not for lazyness. He has the skills
- use them.
Reel to reel would be better though.
He's to busy selling kebabs out the side of the DJ booth, extra chill
anyone.
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From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:08
To: Paul Kendrick; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Paul, I don't remember there being any rules to mixing...
;)
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:06
To: robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using
a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar
to Surgeon or Nick Wilson.
It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks.
-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59
To: Paul Kendrick
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update
It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor.
robin...
Paul Kendrick wrote:
> I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done
> in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks..
>
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Re: FW: (313) DM Update
Shut up. ;O) Laptops should be for using properly not for lazyness. He has the skills - use them. Reel to reel would be better though. I see both sides to this discussion. So I'll take the advice of the first line :) robin...
RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Shut up. ;O)
Laptops should be for using properly not for lazyness. He has the skills
- use them.
Reel to reel would be better though.
He's to busy selling kebabs out the side of the DJ booth, extra chill
anyone.
-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:08
To: Paul Kendrick; robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
Paul, I don't remember there being any rules to mixing...
;)
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:06
To: robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using
a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar
to Surgeon or Nick Wilson.
It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks.
-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59
To: Paul Kendrick
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update
It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor.
robin...
Paul Kendrick wrote:
> I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done
> in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks..
>
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Re: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar to Surgeon or Nick Wilson. I agree. It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks. Luddite :) Would you object to it being done on CDs or decks that weren't technics? Or even it being a reel to reel tape edit, isn't that more authentic? :) robin...
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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/03/2006 09:19:41 AM: > I did say "when I have heard him over the last few years" - maybe > he's rocking sweet soul music, bizarre beats and twisted tracks at > other gaffs (but at the end of all this that was the original > question - has anyone heard him doing so? Yes, I have. He's been here twice in the last, er maybe three years? The first time he played across the board - deep house, disco, tribal techno, classic Detroit cuts, big room Saunderson style stuff, etc. Then, as a break down toward the end of the set, he played some jazz thing. I mean jazz - not some "jazzy" house track. Not like bop but more kind of a fusion track. It wasn't mixed either - he just played it - gaps on both ends. Big breathing space. Then brought in some more house/disco and continued to ramp it up (if memory serves me right) for another 30-45 minutes until the end. Overall, I think it was better than the last time he played here - which was more standard techno with some house w/vocal samples here and there. MEK
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Missing words out, should read- He should sort it out, its NOT like he's doing anything that warrants using a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar to Surgeon or Nick Wilson. It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks. -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick Sent: 03 October 2006 16:06 To: robin Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar to Surgeon or Nick Wilson. It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59 To: Paul Kendrick Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor. robin... Paul Kendrick wrote: > I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done > in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks.. >
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Paul, I don't remember there being any rules to mixing...
;)
-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 16:06
To: robin
Cc: list 313
Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using
a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar
to Surgeon or Nick Wilson.
It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks.
-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59
To: Paul Kendrick
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update
It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor.
robin...
Paul Kendrick wrote:
> I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done
> in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks..
>
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RE: FW: (313) DM Update
He should sort it out, its like he's doing anything that warrants using a laptop, its not like the track selection is all over the place similar to Surgeon or Nick Wilson. It's a standard 135bpm mix, so should be done on decks. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 15:59 To: Paul Kendrick Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor. robin... Paul Kendrick wrote: > I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done > in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks.. >
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It's worse than that, FK uses Traktor. robin... Paul Kendrick wrote: I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks..
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I don't mind this mix but the main problem I have with it is its done in ableton and FK could do it just as well on decks.. :O( -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 16:57 To: Wojtek; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 Subject: RE: FW: (313) DM Update Blimey - a Marco Bailey track on an Kevorkian mix - I never thought I'd see the day. Another once great DJ playing rubbish techno. :( Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update Acoording to the Discogs entry, that track is credited to DM and FK: http://www.discogs.com/release/730792 On 10/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and > FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 > > > > He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can hear his > > song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix of it. Oh and > > he's doing an opera. > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Ken Asked > > It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the > > promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of > > new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is > there anyone > > here who would (and could) with the greatest respect > (preferably) call > > what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? I had a read of the site and DM says - "I'm also touring the world every week to play any and everywhere to expose this amazing thing called Techno (Hi-Tech-Soul)" So isn't Hi-Tech-Soul just his take on what Techno is? If it's his take, then what he plays is therefore Hi-Tech-Soul. I've not really heard the term used much but I think it kinda sums up Techno quite well (without wishing this to turn into what is Techno thread!) This email was sent to you by Reuters, the global news and information company. To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
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Blimey - a Marco Bailey track on an Kevorkian mix - I never thought I'd see the day. Another once great DJ playing rubbish techno. :( Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 Subject: Re: FW: (313) DM Update Acoording to the Discogs entry, that track is credited to DM and FK: http://www.discogs.com/release/730792 On 10/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and > FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 > > > > He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can hear his > > song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix of it. Oh and > > he's doing an opera. > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Acoording to the Discogs entry, that track is credited to DM and FK: http://www.discogs.com/release/730792 On 10/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 > > He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can > hear his song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix > of it. Oh and he's doing an opera.
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That Solare Flare track is a bomb. So do you know it is deffo him and FK? (as opposed to guessing it is, though granted it is the natural conclusion). > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 October 2006 02:28 > > He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can > hear his song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix > of it. Oh and he's doing an opera.
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Yeah but you haven't answered Ken's specific point: We all (OK somebody on here won't, but ignore that) love Derrick May. His place in history is unquestioned. History aside, looking at him today, as a DJ the way he put's things together is still great and he DJ's with fantastic energy meaning it's a pleasure to go and see him. And on that site he's making all the right noises. BUT: although he's still a top spinner in technique, energy and programming the records he does play when I (and presumably Ken) have heard him over the last few years these records are flat sounding looped tech / std. tech house kind of things that most of us do not associate with "high tech soul" - in fact the kind of records the term is maybe meant to indicate an alternative to. Disclaimers: I am not hating on Derrick May. I personally do not tend to use the term "high tech soul" but am a grouch who insists on standing by the word "techno" even when I make life hard for myself by doing so. I did say "when I have heard him over the last few years" - maybe he's rocking sweet soul music, bizarre beats and twisted tracks at other gaffs (but at the end of all this that was the original question - has anyone heard him doing so? Give us a run down of what he plays Thursday). > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 October 2006 06:35 > To: Odeluga, Ken > > Yeah you're wrong. ;) Seriously, I've seen him play some of > the best parties ever. Even ?uestlove raves about him and > there's a dude who loves his music. I can't think of another > DJ with that kind of presence - though I have a few > favourites. You should fly over and hang with us at the > Corner on Thursday. He will definitely play HTS. > > > On 02/10/2006, at 9:15 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > > > It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the > > promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of > > new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is > there anyone > > here who would (and could) with the greatest respect > (preferably) call > > what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? > > > > It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few > > times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't > generic more > > or less mono-tone techno. > > > > Tell me I'm wrong, please. > > > > Ken
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As long as there's plenty of 909 and dx100 in it I'm all ears :) robin... Robert Taylor wrote: Rob Taylor -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 01:28 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Wes Prince; 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update Oh and he's doing an opera.
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Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2006 01:28 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Wes Prince; 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update Oh and he's doing an opera. On 02/10/2006, at 9:49 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: > Yeah, but any NEW material? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 October 2006 10:17 > To: Wes Prince > Cc: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) DM Update > > He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of > interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat > release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. > > On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: > > >> http://www.derrickmay.com/ >> >> >> > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > ## > ### > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Yeah you're wrong. ;) Seriously, I've seen him play some of the best parties ever. Even ?uestlove raves about him and there's a dude who loves his music. I can't think of another DJ with that kind of presence - though I have a few favourites. You should fly over and hang with us at the Corner on Thursday. He will definitely play HTS. On 02/10/2006, at 9:15 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: http://www.derrickmay.com/
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High Tech Soul is defined in the movie by him I think (I haven't seen it in full yet). At Red Bull he said it's the offspring or evolution of Detroit techno. On 02/10/2006, at 9:15 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: http://www.derrickmay.com/
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He's doing something for a Japanese film project. You can hear his song with Francois - Solare Flare. He may do a remix of it. Oh and he's doing an opera. On 02/10/2006, at 9:49 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: Yeah, but any NEW material? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 10:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: http://www.derrickmay.com/ ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
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He was pretty varied when he last played Space Base Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:16 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) DM Update It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: > http://www.derrickmay.com/ > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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It's a beautifully put together website and seems to hold out the promise of interesting directions - whether shown in the release of new or old material, or even in his DJ sets. Still, is there anyone here who would (and could) with the greatest respect (preferably) call what Derrick May plays High Tech *Soul*? It's been a while since I saw him play, but certainly the last few times I heard him play I didn't hear anything that wasn't generic more or less mono-tone techno. Tell me I'm wrong, please. Ken -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 11:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: > http://www.derrickmay.com/ > >
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Yeah, but any NEW material? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2006 10:17 To: Wes Prince Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) DM Update He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: > http://www.derrickmay.com/ > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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He gave a really good talk here at Red Bull this week. Lots of interesting Mayday projects in the can... 20th anniversary Transmat release, etc. Plays Corner Hotel here Thurs. On 02/10/2006, at 7:30 PM, Wes Prince wrote: http://www.derrickmay.com/
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