Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-21 Thread Roberto Ty
4th graders are smarter than that. I understand to simplify, but if a 12yr
old can be a DMC champion then I'm sure they'd get what was going on. Or do
what a lot of exhibits do, have a youth explanation in addition to a more
mature explanation.

on 01/20/03 12:03 PM, webmaster at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> you guys seem to be forgetting that this exhibit was made so that  fourth
> graders  could understand it...
> the couldn't get too deep on them...
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> Subject: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit
> 
> 
>> So, regarding the Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World... what did
> everybody
>> think?
>> 
>> Seemed to be missing a ton of stuff... photographs? music to listen to? an
>> actual explanation of how a DJ plays? examination of club culture? Motor?
>> 
>> what say you all?
>> 
>> 
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Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-21 Thread Roberto Ty
A traveling exhibit would be good, but they need a lot more input and
sponsorship. I don't know who they solicited goods from, but I would think
that perhaps opening it to more of the techno community could produce more
materials. Or it could pose more problems I suppose.


on 01/20/03 08:52 AM, Dave Pinter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> From what I gathered from folks at the Roostertail fundraiser the exhibition
> is a work in progress. They hope to add more to it as more money and potential
> corporate sponsorship are secured. Didn't get to see the exhibit myself but
> the talk of sending it on the road is serious.
> 
> -dave



Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Dan Sicko wrote:

> Curators were both from the Museum, and yes, the space was allotted
> over a year ago I believe.
>
> Don't know what the budget was, but things turned out about how I
> expected -- they did a *good* job.
>
> -d

I wrote about the idea of a travelling techno exhibit after the demf of
2001 i think.  one of the exhibits that influenced me was the missouri
historical society's miles davis exhibit.  synthesized personal tidbits
with his art with his music.  each visitor upon entering the exhibit was
given an mp3 player and at each station the visitor was "told" to play a
certain track.  the tracks would either be davis' music, a commentary from
people close to davis and davis himself, or a mixture of both.

there were also a couple of listening spaces devoted solely to davis'
music through the years.

I liked the exhibit a great deal, and I thought the model could be easily
ported over to techno.  Only problem was that it lacked a sense of
movement.  Even though jazz has been fossilized to a certain extent,
this is important.

The techno exhibit in my head contained flyers from high school parties
(comrades, weekends, etc.) it contained old drum machines and
synthesizers, but most of all it contained MUSIC.  Old 98 mix tapes from
the wizard, gary chandler, and others.  Deep Space Radio. Interviews with
various people involved with the scene.  Maybe even speeches from
futurists like Alvin Toffler in the background.

I'd like to check it out for myself...don't know if I'll get back in time.



Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread webmaster
you guys seem to be forgetting that this exhibit was made so that  fourth
graders  could understand it...
the couldn't get too deep on them...
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit


> So, regarding the Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World... what did
everybody
> think?
>
> Seemed to be missing a ton of stuff... photographs? music to listen to? an
> actual explanation of how a DJ plays? examination of club culture? Motor?
>
> what say you all?
>
>
>
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Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Dave Pinter
>From what I gathered from folks at the Roostertail fundraiser the exhibition 
>is a work in progress. They hope to add more to it as more money and potential 
>corporate sponsorship are secured. Didn't get to see the exhibit myself but 
>the talk of sending it on the road is serious.

-dave


Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Dave Pinter
>From what I gathered from folks at the Roostertail fundraiser the exhibition 
>is a work in progress. They hope to add more to it as more money and potential 
>corporate sponsorship are secured. Didn't get to see the exhibit myself but 
>the talk of sending it on the road is serious.

-dave


Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread kenneth taylor




> I went opening night and couldn't hear anything ... there wasn't *any*
> music?  I'm definitely surprised at that one. I assumed that the video
> clips would switch out and some of the buttons triggered more than just
> interviews?
>


well, for those of us (a.k.a. casual museum goers) that couldn't make it to 
the opening, there was no music to listen to other than what was playing 
beneath the 2-minute interview clips. I imagine it wouldn't have been to 
difficult to set up one or two listening stations playing a few different 
tracks or just a simple Mojo mix.




> As for club culture ... that wouldn't exactly be our gift to the world,
> now would it?  I think club/rave culture would have crowded more
> essential information out IMHO, especially considering most of the
> history covered in the exhibit is pre-rave (at least in Detroit).



No, club culture wasn't quite our gift to the world (hehe) but again, for 
the lay person, a little context might be nice. And, as far as I saw, there 
wasn't even a mention of Motor (I may have totally missed it, though). Not 
to fault them too much but they never even described what a DJ actually 
does. They seemed far more pre-occupied with finding album covers than they 
did with trying to inform their audience.





>
> -d
>
> On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 11:21 PM, kenneth taylor wrote:
>
>> examination of club culture?
>



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Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Sicko
Curators were both from the Museum, and yes, the space was allotted 
over a year ago I believe.


Don't know what the budget was, but things turned out about how I 
expected -- they did a *good* job.


-d

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 06:46 AM, diana potts wrote:


 Hmmm...who were the curators? was it someone from the
museum,an outside source or both? Sometimes with
museums-if it's a permanent or time slotted display
they will/can give only so much floor space. 




Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread diana potts

 Hmmm...who were the curators? was it someone from the
museum,an outside source or both? Sometimes with
museums-if it's a permanent or time slotted display
they will/can give only so much floor space. 
When I have questions as such that's when I usually
try and grab someone who works there and chat them up
a bit and see what is what.
This is just from a larger picture perspective mind
you and what I've learned from the museums I've
volunteered at...could be totally off too. 

Could the documentary they were selling be the one
made a long time ago...by PBS I believe, or didn't the
BBC/Channel 4 do one too? Can't remember which, but I
can see it in my head:P. Everything mushes together at
this time in the morning.


d


--- Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I went today. I thought it was brief. Extremely
> brief. Techno Rebels seemed
> to cover it much better. There was very little
> music, mostly brief speeches
> with Atkins, Fowkles, May and Saunderson when you
> pressed the buttons on the
> display. Records and equipment on display. I think
> it would have been more
> interesting to have gone in depth. Just how did
> Techno influence the world's
> music. Maybe show how exactly a record gets cut. How
> the music gets made,
> etc. Submerge's influence with their philosophy. I
> think the lay person
> wouldn't know anything about that or the musical
> instruments. Think about it
> beyond keyboards, guitars, drums, does the average
> person knows what the
> samplers, etc. do?
> 
> On a side note the museum was selling a documentary
> DVD that had Atkins and
> May in it, among others. I forgot the title. It
> wasn't The Drive Home. It
> costs $34.95 at the museum. Anyone seen it yet?
> 
> on 01/19/03 11:32 PM, Dan Sicko at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I went opening night and couldn't hear anything
> ... there wasn't *any*
> > music?  I'm definitely surprised at that one. I
> assumed that the video
> > clips would switch out and some of the buttons
> triggered more than just
> > interviews?
> > 
> > As for club culture ... that wouldn't exactly be
> our gift to the world,
> > now would it?  I think club/rave culture would
> have crowded more
> > essential information out IMHO, especially
> considering most of the
> > history covered in the exhibit is pre-rave (at
> least in Detroit).
> > 
> > -d
> > 
> > On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 11:21 PM, kenneth
> taylor wrote:
> > 
> >> examination of club culture?
> > 
> 


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Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread scotto
we left lansing a little late and arived there at 4:50, well they close at
5.
but I did think it was small, I did like the studio set up and the press
plates from ur-38. all the gold records in the mojo area was cool. maybe
next time I will get to look at it more.

scotto
lansing, mi.

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From: "kenneth taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit


> So, regarding the Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World... what did
everybody
> think?
>
> Seemed to be missing a ton of stuff... photographs? music to listen to? an
> actual explanation of how a DJ plays? examination of club culture? Motor?
>
> what say you all?
>
>
>
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Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Roberto Ty
I went today. I thought it was brief. Extremely brief. Techno Rebels seemed
to cover it much better. There was very little music, mostly brief speeches
with Atkins, Fowkles, May and Saunderson when you pressed the buttons on the
display. Records and equipment on display. I think it would have been more
interesting to have gone in depth. Just how did Techno influence the world's
music. Maybe show how exactly a record gets cut. How the music gets made,
etc. Submerge's influence with their philosophy. I think the lay person
wouldn't know anything about that or the musical instruments. Think about it
beyond keyboards, guitars, drums, does the average person knows what the
samplers, etc. do?

On a side note the museum was selling a documentary DVD that had Atkins and
May in it, among others. I forgot the title. It wasn't The Drive Home. It
costs $34.95 at the museum. Anyone seen it yet?

on 01/19/03 11:32 PM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I went opening night and couldn't hear anything ... there wasn't *any*
> music?  I'm definitely surprised at that one. I assumed that the video
> clips would switch out and some of the buttons triggered more than just
> interviews?
> 
> As for club culture ... that wouldn't exactly be our gift to the world,
> now would it?  I think club/rave culture would have crowded more
> essential information out IMHO, especially considering most of the
> history covered in the exhibit is pre-rave (at least in Detroit).
> 
> -d
> 
> On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 11:21 PM, kenneth taylor wrote:
> 
>> examination of club culture?
> 



Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Sicko
I went opening night and couldn't hear anything ... there wasn't *any* 
music?  I'm definitely surprised at that one. I assumed that the video 
clips would switch out and some of the buttons triggered more than just 
interviews?


As for club culture ... that wouldn't exactly be our gift to the world, 
now would it?  I think club/rave culture would have crowded more 
essential information out IMHO, especially considering most of the 
history covered in the exhibit is pre-rave (at least in Detroit).


-d

On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 11:21 PM, kenneth taylor wrote:


examination of club culture?




(313) Detroit Historical Exhibit

2003-01-20 Thread kenneth taylor
So, regarding the Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World... what did everybody 
think?


Seemed to be missing a ton of stuff... photographs? music to listen to? an 
actual explanation of how a DJ plays? examination of club culture? Motor?


what say you all?



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