(313) dub-techno live broadcast
hi! if anyone's interrested, i'm djing tomorow (thursday) at noon (12pm) CET on our local student radio, dub-techno selection... www.radiostudent.si (press play on upper left corner) cheers, Z __ https://soundcloud.com/zergonn http://www.radiostudent.si
(313) Dub - was Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...
may i also suggest the releases on Tuning Spork's sister label Futuredub. Very deep, very dubby, a little tech-y Unfortunately also hard to find. fab. - Original Message - From: Lance @ Inaudible [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past... On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Lance @ Inaudible wrote: Hello all, Haven't been here in over 5 years but the other day DJ Horsepower + his lovely wife hunted me down at my office in cleveland and reminded me of the musical friends from the golden age Awww shi*, ol'skool 313 list in the haus. Welcome back soldier. Great to see the names dropped, even if we have lost a few comrades. Thanks friend. happy to be back. maybe we can encourage some of the others to return as well. Dub is always a nice education, but the influence seems to have faded in recent years. Dub is still out there. Check the new Deadbeat release on Scape, any of the Deepchord/Rod Modell stuffs on Silentes/Deepchord/Echocord, and all the other Echocord releases (especially those my Mikkel Metal). Visit these links for more infos... http://www.techno.ca/deadbeat/ http://www.dctrax.com/ http://www.scape-music.de/ http://www.echocord.com/ http://www.mikkelmetal.dk/ if you want some legal feebie techno/ambient/dub from established artists, check out the Flow.ers compilation on the Sutemos netlabel. it features tracks from yagya, rod modell, octex, exos, and ozy to name just a few. nice stuff and well worth the price of admission - which is none. : ) http://www.sutemos.net/en/ Finally, one last thing about dub. Not necessarily for this list but... Those interested in classic dub/reggae who havent yet started purchasing any may want to check out the excellent UK Blood and Fire dub/reggae reissue label. They has re-released-compiled the best of the best by King Tubby, Horace Andy, Scientist, The Congos, Lee Perry, Prince Alla, Burning Spear, Jah Stitch, Keith Hudson, Tappa Zukie, Glen Brown, I-Roy, Cornell Campbell, Johnny Clarke, Big Youth, Gregory Isaacs, Max Romeo, Yabby You, Trinity, Dennis Brown, Jackie Mittoo, Ranking Joe, Junior Ross, Linval Thompson, Willi Williams, and Niney the Observer to name just a few. If you need specific recommendations i would be happy help but the real reason i mention Blood and Fire right now is because they have just marked down most of their catalog to 50% their original prices. Visit http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk for more information and sound samples. And what's happening in Ohio? The MI-OH corridor was once strong. Can it be rebuilt? yes ohio was once home to some excellent musicians - dan curtin, morgan geist, jeff samuel, hanna, titonton, twine, todd sines, steve cinch, metamorphic, the 21/22 corp/elemental collective, etc... but many of those musicians have left for more musically fertile locations. i've been out of the techno loop for a few years so i dont know if there has been an ohio 'second wave' or not but i'm sure there are a few up-and-coming producers in ohio somewhere. we'll see if we can get them noticed when we find them! -- ---Lance 6099 Creekside Lane North Ridgeville, OH 44039 United States
FWD: (313) dub/ska/reggae mix
-- Original Message -- From: Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:02:08 -0400 dub/ska/reggae mix 091004 1 hour 69.5 mb black street fighter (intro) banana walk - dub specialist (coxsone) granny scratch - sound dimension woman of the ghetto - phyillis dillion cool out son - jr. marvin Jordan river - burning spear Dreader mafia - snuffy and wally Running dub - coxsone Chapter one - joe gibs Spawning - coxsone Doctor seaton in the echo chamber - ruple edwards' all stars Buck Rodgers in the black hole - roots relics Africa dub - lee perry Since I dub - aggroustors Cuss cuss - llyod robinson baby - heptones real hot - lennie Hilbert tunnel one - tommy mccook green mangos - tommy mccook I trim the barber - king tubby http://www.plaztikjezuz.com/scotto-dub.mp3 enjoy scotto ps. i know its not detroit techno, but i thought, people would enjoy it. -live on coxsone andythepooh.com
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On Sep 15, 2004, at 3:02 PM, Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dub/ska/reggae mix 091004 1 hour 69.5 mb Not to continue the O/T, but how topical - I just came back from seeing the newly-reunited Tackhead. 14 years apart and you'd swear it hadn't been a day. They were tighter than a preacher's bungholio walking through the Castro. Doug Wimbish did a bass solo at the high-note end of the spectrum that rivaled most guitarists I've ever heard since Hendrix. Amazing stuff. And Keith LeBlanc had a laptop for additional percussion, so I think that should qualify them for Derrick getting them to play at Movement next year :-) And they played The Message[EMAIL PROTECTED]@$@@#!!! OMFG ... I can't believe I heard that live. (Doug Wimbish did his best Grandmaster Flash imitation.) - Greg
(313) dub/ska/reggae mix
dub/ska/reggae mix 091004 1 hour 69.5 mb black street fighter (intro) banana walk - dub specialist (coxsone) granny scratch - sound dimension woman of the ghetto - phyillis dillion cool out son - jr. marvin Jordan river - burning spear Dreader mafia - snuffy and wally Running dub - coxsone Chapter one - joe gibs Spawning - coxsone Doctor seaton in the echo chamber - ruple edwards' all stars Buck Rodgers in the black hole - roots relics Africa dub - lee perry Since I dub - aggroustors Cuss cuss - llyod robinson baby - heptones real hot - lennie Hilbert tunnel one - tommy mccook green mangos - tommy mccook I trim the barber - king tubby http://www.plaztikjezuz.com/scotto-dub.mp3 enjoy scotto ps. i know its not detroit techno, but i thought, people would enjoy it. -live on coxsone
Re: (313) Dub Kult Mix
Yeah, it's the same Dub, he doing a few 12 for Dust :) Here's the track list 1. memoria / murcof / context 2.moonwalk / blaze / playhouse 3.wavemail project / swayzak / two hundred forty volts 4.red light district iv / sweet reinhard / djungle fever 5.blue / dub kult / raum...musik 6.pistol oderso / daniel wang / disco nouveau 7.they keep dancing / perspects / disco nouveau 8.we are living in the night / crème de menthe / disko b 9.s-bahn / i-liner / parallel recordings 10.hypno freak / robotman / minus / steve bug's mix 11.antithesis / john tejada / sino 12.what yoy say is more than i can say / villalobos / playhouse 13.stop the world / dub kult / arcola 14.recht erst jetzt / reinhard voigt / kompakt 15.depart / justin berkovi / nightrax 16.red controller / pill hearin / electrix records 17.caboose / rob lenarduzzi / jack tripper presents 18.movin' thru your system / jark prongo / hooj / slacker software remix 19.tear it down / the accomplice / resource recordings 20.p off / flr / reel muisq 21.king pin / blimp / pro-jex 22.kross kut / paul birken / people of rhythm 19/5/04 7:47 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@datavibe.net what's the track playing at 20 minutes in- with the little alien voices? On Wed, 19 May 2004, robin wrote: ok so it's not totally on topic but if you're after a genre disrespecting mix try this: http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/DubKult.php listening to it now...very good. so does anyone know if this is the same 'Dub' that used to be on UKDance way back when i was last on there (95)? robin...
Re: (313) Dub Kult Mix
that'll be this. ace track. 5. blue / dub kult / raum...musik robin... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the track playing at 20 minutes in- with the little alien voices?
(313) Dub Kult Mix
ok so it's not totally on topic but if you're after a genre disrespecting mix try this: http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/DubKult.php listening to it now...very good. so does anyone know if this is the same 'Dub' that used to be on UKDance way back when i was last on there (95)? robin...
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Yep, it's the same person... T On 19 May 2004, at 17:17, robin wrote: so does anyone know if this is the same 'Dub' that used to be on UKDance way back when i was last on there (95)?
Re: (313) Dub Kult Mix
what's the track playing at 20 minutes in- with the little alien voices? On Wed, 19 May 2004, robin wrote: ok so it's not totally on topic but if you're after a genre disrespecting mix try this: http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/DubKult.php listening to it now...very good. so does anyone know if this is the same 'Dub' that used to be on UKDance way back when i was last on there (95)? robin...
RE: (313) Dub
Another interesting interpretation that I think has been missed. dub v. dubbed, dub·bing, dubs v. tr. To thrust at; poke. To beat (a drum). v. intr. To make a thrust. To beat on a drum. n. The act of dubbing. A drumbeat. [Perhaps from Low German dubben, to hit, strike.] -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:56 AM To: Martin; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Dub is short for double, no? ie copy/transfer? I work in television and the word dub is used to describe any copy of a master tape. Dub also means to strike/hit with a sword - ie The Queens does it when she knights people. There will a plethora of varying etymologies of the word cos it is a very simple 3 letter word with many possible origins. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:48 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dub The meaning in Reggae came from this: to furnish (a film or tape) with a new sound track, as one recorded in the language of the country of import. martin 30/9/03 1:48 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. -- Benn Glazier email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
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I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. i recently bought a comp on soul jazz records named the studio one story. 2x12 with some great music. it also came with a 4 hour dvd with interviews with almost everyone who is anyone in reggae. they interviewed an engineer from studio one and he explained the term dub as when jamacian dj tosted over record they turned out the vocal track, so some of the dj were able to get into the studio and record there version with the orignal music and there vocal. some times they would add sounds from other popular songs through tape to tape transfers. the main person they interviewed was clement coxsone dodd. this guy is genius imo. started a studio one back in the 50's and recorded most of the classic ska/reggae/dub artist. he also talked about how jamacian dj would scratch the labels off records, (this was back in the 50's) how they built big sound systems, had parties until the early morning and how he to beat the of other jamacian dj getting the same records as him went into a studio and recorded his own music to dj. so no one else would have it. sound familiar?? -- -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
RE: (313) Dub / Pole
Speaking of dub, Pole played a live dub influenced set here in San Francisco last Friday. He even had what looked like a custom made melodica, the toy keyboard harmonica popularized by Jamaican dub artist Augustus Pablo. The sound was more roots dub style than when I've seen him previously. Also much more of a traditional live music set with lots of solos and silence in between tracks, for better or worse. It was a bit too slow for my tastes, but entertaining. He also had a Nord Modular keyboard, a laptop running Logic and some effects pedals (sorry no vintage tubby style spring reverb unit). Not a bad set of gear to lug across the Atlantic! Or maybe it's just in his rider. Anyhoo, check it out if its coming to your town, but don't expect much dancing. _ hurlbot www.hurlbotics.com/mp3 _
RE: (313) Dub / Pole live set
Speaking of dub, Pole played a live dub influenced set here in San Francisco last Friday. He even had what looked like a custom made melodica, the toy keyboard harmonica popularized by Jamaican dub artist Augustus Pablo. The sound was more roots dub style than when I've seen him previously. Also much more of a traditional live music set with lots of solos and silence in between tracks, for better or worse. It was a bit too slow for my tastes, but entertaining. He also had a Nord Modular keyboard, a laptop running Logic and some effects pedals (sorry no vintage tubby style spring reverb unit). Not a bad set of gear to lug across the Atlantic! Or maybe it's just in his rider. Anyhoo, check it out if its coming to your town, but don't expect much dancing. _ hurlbot www.hurlbotics.com/mp3 _
(313) Dub
Just thought this could interest some people here : a text about the origins of dub posted by A.S. Van Dorston [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the The Wire mailing-list. Gwendal The roots of dub can be traced all the way back to the late forties, when sound systems first appeared in Jamaica. Young deejays would play rb imports from the U.S. on a setup of an amplifier, massive homemade speakers and a turntable. Sound systems became more prominent when Jamaica was emancipated from Britain in 1962. The best sound systems had deejays who could introduce the songs and coax the dancers using the latest jive. U. Roy became the biggest star, deejaying for Clement Sir Coxsone Dodd's Downbeat, and then King Tubby's Hometown Hi-Fi. As American rb was replaced by rock roll, deejays played more and more homegrown records. The two-track recordings reserved the B-side of the record to test sound levels. The instrumental B-side, or the version, became popular with deejays like U. Roy who had the freedom to toast throughout the record without competing with recorded vocals. Duke Reid, a sound system selector who branched into recording at his Treasure Isle Studios, began making specials in 1969, using U.Roy's voice-overs. In experimenting with the versions and specials, Reid's studio engineer, King Tubby, began making versions of songs in which the vocals dropped in and out amongst a cacophony of echo, reverb and heavy, heavy bass. The first dubs were You Don't Care by the Techniques, and songs by the Melodians and Phyllis Dillon. While Lee Scratch Perry insists that he invented dub first, there is no recorded evidence to prove it. However, his dubs of Bob Marley the Wailers from 1970 (Soul Revolution Vol. 1 2, Trojan) indicate that he developed the technique almost concurrently with King Tubby. Perry represented a more mystical aspect of dub. He produced a kaleidoscopic variety of eerie sound effects, explaning that they were the ghosts in me coming out. Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. Perry suggests that dub is not only a doubling of sounds, but of one's soul from the spirit-world into the tehnological world. For more information, see Dick Hebdige, Cut 'n' Mix (1987) and S.H. Fernando Jr., The New Beats (1994).
Re: (313) Dub
speaking about dub..rhythm sound burial mixes are now available on the cd. news from boomkat: ALBUM OF THE WEEK! RHYTHM SOUND The Versions Burial Mix CD // £ 11.99 This second breathtaking CD leaves out the vocal accompaniment and exposes the terryfingly deep Basic Channel production as it drifts off into instrumental effervescance. Look back at our archive of reviews for releases on the Burial Mix label and you'll probably realise that we've always had a reverential approach to what these people do. The credentials are all there : the godlike production talents of mark ernestus and moritz von oswald have already set the world ablaze once, twice, three, four times with the seminal work as Basic Channel and the splintering into microscopic, heavyweight offshoots by way of the M series (Maurizio on proud display), Main Street (Chicago rhythms floating into dub), Chain Reaction (reduced, spacious techno blueprints), Rhythm and Sound (largely instrumental dub coloured mountains of space) and, of course, Burial Mix (vocalists brought forth, reggae re-invented). It's hard to over-emphasise just how important this music has been to us personally over the last 10 years and, for that matter, just how substantial the impact of the Basic Channel model has been on everything that has taken place in electronic music since. Following the convention of vinyl precedence, each of these labels has offered a catalogue up on record (in this case 10 releases) before compiling the music onto one cd. This is, in fact, the second Burial Mix compilation, the first showcase concentrating on the label's collaborations with Paul St Hilaire, aka Tikiman, for its opening set of releases. This second installment divides itself into Vocal and Instrumental Versions (the Vocal tracks are collected seperately on a second cd), displaying the last seven releases in their entirety, plus the upcoming Mash Down Babylon (a new take on the awesome, rare as hell March Down Babylon), and features a quite simply breathtaking collection of tracks that in their time have all been singles of the week for us here. Just thinking of the majestic exuberance of King in My Empire, or the breathtaking midnight spaciousness of Making Histroy brings goosebumps to this already seasoned listener, and that's just an opening gambit. There's no room for mistake or argument - we have been waiting for these two releases for a long long time, it really doesn't get any better. Absolutely essential. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:34 Subject: Re: (313) Dub If you're into this, there's a free 4 hr dvd with one of the studio one compilations on soul jazz that you just have to get! it's ace. and it's here.. http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/s1story.htm bargain. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Dub
RHYTHM SOUND The Versions Burial Mix , I like 'the channel'. that vainqueur/tikiman 12 reminds me of them too _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k
RE: (313) Dub
yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k
Re: (313) Dub
The meaning in Reggae came from this: to furnish (a film or tape) with a new sound track, as one recorded in the language of the country of import. martin 30/9/03 1:48 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k
RE: (313) Dub
Dub is short for double, no? ie copy/transfer? I work in television and the word dub is used to describe any copy of a master tape. Dub also means to strike/hit with a sword - ie The Queens does it when she knights people. There will a plethora of varying etymologies of the word cos it is a very simple 3 letter word with many possible origins. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:48 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dub The meaning in Reggae came from this: to furnish (a film or tape) with a new sound track, as one recorded in the language of the country of import. martin 30/9/03 1:48 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Dub
Duppy is ghosts or practice of voodoo. Listen to Bob Marley's Duppy Conquerer to get the picture. Dub is not related to Dup(ppy) afaik. Rav -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 14:43 To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k
RE: (313) Dub
Duppy is ghosts or practice of voodoo. Listen to Bob Marley's Duppy Conquerer to get the picture. Dub is not related to Dup(ppy) afaik. Rav Why not? Have you been paying attention?!?!? ;-) From what the learned people have said in the last few minutes it would appear that the two words *are* related! k
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On the origin of the word dub - as with almost all accounts of the labyrinthine Jamaican music industry, there are many often conflicting explanations of a particular phenomenon. However, my guess is that the word 'dub/duppy' as used in patois has an origin that predates recording technology and is related to practice of the Obeah men - shamanistic individuals associated with witchcraft/evil spirits etc. The similarity to the recording technology use of the word may be purely coincidental. Martin - what is the source of your definition? As for the piece of writing we are discussing, it was OK, but as far as I'm aware the practice of making versions of tracks predates 1969 by quite a few years to the ska era, and there were certainly toasting deejays before U Roy, such as King Stitt and others, though obviusly U Roy was the Don in many respects. Also I wasn't aware of a particular Duke Reid - Tubbys association that gave birth to the thing we recognise as a dubwise version of a tune -complete with echos + dropping in and out of different instruments. For one thing I believe most studios in the late sixties were still recording using equipment with one or two tracks, which makes dropping different instruments out of the mix rather hard. For a more informed opinion than mine (which isn't saying much) check out Dave Katz's excellent biography of Lee Perry - 'People Funny Boy'. Alternatively, Lloyd Bradley's 'Bass Culture' is also a good read, covering the sweep of Jamaican music from the late fifties onwards with some enthralling accounts of legendary UK soundclashes between Shaka and others. Dan. You wrote: Duppy is ghosts or practice of voodoo. Listen to Bob Marley's Duppy Conquerer to get the picture. Dub is not related to Dup(ppy) afaik. Rav Why not? Have you been paying attention?!?!? ;-) From what the learned people have said in the last few minutes it would appear that the two words *are* related! k
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such as King Stitt that studio one dvd points to stitt being the first dj too (who, incidentally, has the maddest gob I've ever seen) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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such as King Stitt that studio one dvd points to stitt being the first dj too (who, incidentally, has the maddest gob I've ever seen) no kidding(see http://www.geocities.com/studiowon/KingStitt.htm) see this http://www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au/~mwilliam/bj/skareggae/kingstitt.php for an interesting little interview robin...
RE: (313) Dub
My understanding was that 'dub' came from 'double'. Check this out - a (somewhat incomplete) article I wrote about the history of the remix. It has some stuff about dub and stuff in there: http://www.inthemix.com.au/p/np/viewnews.php?id=11806 -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:56 AM To: Martin; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Dub is short for double, no? ie copy/transfer? I work in television and the word dub is used to describe any copy of a master tape. Dub also means to strike/hit with a sword - ie The Queens does it when she knights people. There will a plethora of varying etymologies of the word cos it is a very simple 3 letter word with many possible origins. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:48 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dub The meaning in Reggae came from this: to furnish (a film or tape) with a new sound track, as one recorded in the language of the country of import. martin 30/9/03 1:48 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited.
[313] dub ska / july 22 hamtramck mi
http://diyska.org/stubborn.jpg an evening of ska and dub at indigo in hamtramck -anki miyamoto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dub / ska show in hamtramck mi july 03, 2002
this is diy ska: general rudie (montreal) on stomp records - traditional ska with lots of keyboards and efx too short notice from NJ project akimbo from pontiac, mi - has a phaser! and anki miyamoto (live dub) @ indigo bar - 3141 caniff - hamtramck mi music @ 8 / $6 / all ages welcome -a.miyamoto diyska.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dub taylor
You should check out the excellent 3B label. Alex Kruger has had releases on it both as Dub Taylor and also as Shura. Other Alex Kruger guises include Psychoplasma, Korsakow, Retronic and Hair. Respect JasonB -- From: Berislav[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:24 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] dub taylor im just going thru some Force Tracks releases on groovetech, and please can someone can give me some info on dub taylor. this is some realy nice piece of music that his produceing.. thanks b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dub taylor
im just going thru some Force Tracks releases on groovetech, and please can someone can give me some info on dub taylor. this is some realy nice piece of music that his produceing.. thanks b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dub taylor
Dub Taylor aka Alex Krüger is from Berlin, I have a release of his on raum...musik called Forms and Figures (strongly recommended), his Dub Taylor alias seems to be his very deep dubby techhouse production, and i believe he produces under a few other aliases (not sure of the names). perhaps try www.raummusik.de for some more info -s -Original Message- From: Berislav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 10:24 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] dub taylor im just going thru some Force Tracks releases on groovetech, and please can someone can give me some info on dub taylor. this is some realy nice piece of music that his produceing.. thanks b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dub taylor
well, if it's a most recent release it would probably be off the 'Detect' album It was one of my favorites along side Bodily Functions for last year. Dirty Highways stands as my favorite track on the album...Sweet Lips is nice to and a bit more upbeat. --- Sara Giampa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dub Taylor aka Alex Krüger is from Berlin, I have a release of his on raum...musik called Forms and Figures (strongly recommended), his Dub Taylor alias seems to be his very deep dubby techhouse production, and i believe he produces under a few other aliases (not sure of the names). perhaps try www.raummusik.de for some more info -s -Original Message- From: Berislav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 10:24 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] dub taylor im just going thru some Force Tracks releases on groovetech, and please can someone can give me some info on dub taylor. this is some realy nice piece of music that his produceing.. thanks b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dub detroit/berlin claude young
There is a new mix c.d. by Claude Young and dj rok, called Berlin/Detroit. It is available at dj-sets.com It might just be what you are looking for Curt. Artists included are Model 500, Brian Harden, Nubian Minds, Carl Craig, Jeff Mill, Shake, Technasia.to name a few. I was lucky enough to get a track on there as well. check it out. ja From: Curt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] deep dub detroit/berlin ramble Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:48:32 -0600 (CST) Hey, I want to get more of the deep dubby stuff on CD (or mp3's). I have the Maurizio, Vainqueur, Decay Product, and Deep Chord CD's. That's pretty much it for store bought CD's. On order, I bought Fluxion: Vibrant Forms II, and the self titled Rhythm and Sound CD. I found out about Rythym and Sound because I was listening to this mp3 mix and it dropped Rhythm and Sound's Imprint in the middle of the set. It was the deepest dubbiest thing I've heard!--and thankfully the playlist was posted so I'd know who made it. I saw on the CD that the track is over 16 minutes long! I just hope that it doesn't have any reggae (sp?) vocals dropped in like *some* of their songs. And after hearing that Mill's Every dog... has vocals, I lost hope in just 'buying' any Mill's release that comes out--because vocals can make techno sound very tacky if not done right. Well, on the mp3 front, I know DJ Mary has that one great dubby mix at techno.cz, but too bad I can't find more great mixes online. I think that deep dub stuff is too underground or obscure for many people, even in techno--it's too bad. New paragraph.--- Well, I also bought Vladislav Delay's Anima Cd. From the outset, the reviews were mixed, but I liked the fact that it was one big 62 minute electronic music experiment (so said the reviews). I'd like to hear it for myself though...the clips sounded cool . Personally, I've listened to a bunch of the Chain Reaction Cd's and I'm not totally impressed with all of them--some of them just aren't dubby enough, you know? Hmm, enough rambling, later. CURT. /\ \ / \ \ /\ \ / \ \ / /\ \ \ / / \ \ \ / /\ \ \ / // \ \ \ / // \ \ \ / //-' \ / //___\ \ / / \/_/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dub
i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain reaction. someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give me some good recommendations. thanks kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dub
get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to check out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck _ ?christian bl;och,...fr%o3m tha/ d -- - Original Message - From: Kao Jyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: [313] dub i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain reaction. someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give me some good recommendations. thanks kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Dub
Regarding the dub request Blood Fire Blood Fire's houses some great roots dub...I'd recommend the albums off BF: -Yabby You's Tribute to King Tubby -X-Ray Music: A Dub Directory -Dubwise and Otherwise and then for a great mix of old and new check out: -Select Cuts from Blood Fire - Actually put out by Echo Beach, it has a lot of contempories (Smith Mighty, Alex Patterson, Stereo MC's, Groove Corporation...) remixing the rootsmen (King Tubby, Yabby You, Tappa Zukie, Horace Andy, I Roy...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dub
i second that, king tubby is incredible. if you want to hear some wild dub-sounding electronics check raymond scotts ibm/bendix stuff get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to check out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck _ ?christian bl;och,...fr%o3m tha/ d -- - Original Message - From: Kao Jyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: [313] dub i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain reaction. someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give me some good recommendations. thanks kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Or Steel Pulse or Ijahman Levi or Israel Vibration or Burning Spear,etc.,etc... proper dub... no abstract stuff there:) Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: not dub styled What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind either) Dub began as kind of 'remixes' of reggae tracks, (indeed to this day many reggae 7s come w/ reggae version on one side and a dub on the flip) often vocals were stripped out almost completely usually with small snatches and refrains dropped into the mix occasionally, the bass is usually much heavier than reggae. In addition large amounts of delay are used to create some really crazy effects (check out lee perrys 'dub revolution' which has some insane cuts of vocals dropping in and out). I think Dub is really important in highlighting the role that the producer plays in the creation of tracks, as many dub tracks are credited to both producer AND musicians rather than the producers name being hidden somewhere in the liner notes. But from dub roots as an offshoot of reggae the term has been used in various ways, for instance a dub of a house track is genrally the track minus the vocals (or certainly less vocals). Now the term is used to describe stuff such as Basic Channel, Pole, etc Bass heavy, with plenty delay effects, this is also sometimes refered to as 'digital dub' to avoid confusion w/ trad. dub. If you want to check any Old school Dub try Lee Scratch Perry King Tubby Prince Jammy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: not dub styled What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind either) reggai or Jamaican
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred From: The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the sounds to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the NUMMER EEN CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's Nek Sanalet album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the sounds to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the NUMMER EEN CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Yeah, I second that opinion..anything on ~scape or anything related to BC or CR is good dub influenced techno/electronic. Also Nick Rapaccioli's solo work and his work with Leftfield, and Leftfield's Rhythm Stealth is excellent. Fred From: Jorge Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:48:37 EDT From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's Nek Sanalet album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the sounds to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the NUMMER EEN CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Oh, and Rampe D records also has a strong dub influence Frankfurt/Berlin seems to have a strong raggae and dub scene. I know that's stating the obvious but I've been curious as to why this is so. Is there a large immigrant population from Trinidad/Jamaica like there is in the UK? Fred From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:58:39 PDT Yeah, I second that opinion..anything on ~scape or anything related to BC or CR is good dub influenced techno/electronic. Also Nick Rapaccioli's solo work and his work with Leftfield, and Leftfield's Rhythm Stealth is excellent. Fred From: Jorge Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:48:37 EDT From: FRED MCMURRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's Nek Sanalet album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the sounds to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the NUMMER EEN CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
(313) Dub/reggae Q
hey, I was running errands this afternoon and I head a great reggae track on the radio, the main chorus ran Woman, you're a brand new second hand anybody know who this is, and what release this is from? I need to get my hands on this track now! VanLoo??? Take care, Mike Taylor NP: Philus-Kuvio3 -- 'No map of the world should be without Utopia' Oscar Wilde
