(313) OT: Headphones

2003-09-01 Thread Langsman, Marc

A friend is looking for a pair of cans for DJ'ing - hes looking at spending
about 50GBP [75USD?] - does anyone have any recommendations ? I know the
senn 25sps fit into that price bracket but every pauir I touch falls apart
so Im loathe to recommend them :/ Ive behringer now do some cheap models -
are these any good ?

Muchos thanks,
marc 

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Re: (313) OT: Headphones

2003-09-01 Thread Phonopsia
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 A friend is looking for a pair of cans for DJ'ing - hes looking at
spending
 about 50GBP [75USD?] - does anyone have any recommendations ? I know the
 senn 25sps fit into that price bracket but every pauir I touch falls apart
 so Im loathe to recommend them :/ Ive behringer now do some cheap models -
 are these any good ?

The Sony MDRV-500's are good at that price - haven't used the 25's, but they
are more than £50, no? You can get both at http://www.sapphires.co.uk or
http://www.djsupply.co.uk if you're comparing. I spent £25 more and got the
Sennheiser 280's, which have a 8Hz to 25KHz frequency range, which is pretty
damn absurd. I wore them literally about 20 hours this weekend, with
little-to-no fatigue. The construction of the 280's also reminds me a lot of
the Sony MDRV-600's, which are the tanks of all headphones (but
unfortunately cost a bit more than the sennheiser's, with inferior sound).

Tristan
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RE: (313) OT: Headphones

2003-09-01 Thread Michael Long
I own the wonderful Sennheiser HD280 PROs. They were only 99USD from
www.thefriend.com. Sturdy as they need to be for my usage, and I'm quite
clumsy. I have dropped them on cement more than twice and no breakage.
Practically every part is user replaceable, including the curly cord that is
only on one side. They are SUPER loud too (I cant even turn up the monitor
volume on my djm500 to half). Another great feature is they attenuate 32db
of outside noise. My only complaint is that they fit tight on my big a head,
not uncomfortable though. Here are some links to reviews. I hope this helps.

http://www.djforums.com/reviews/accessories/sennheiser_hd280pro.php

http://buy.sennheiserusa.com/asp/Sennheiser/pdf/hd280-djtimes.pdf

http://buy.sennheiserusa.com/asp/Sennheiser/pdf/hd280review.pdf


Mike
www.subsynth.net

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A friend is looking for a pair of cans for DJ'ing - hes looking at spending
about 50GBP [75USD?] - does anyone have any recommendations ? I know the
senn 25sps fit into that price bracket but every pauir I touch falls apart
so Im loathe to recommend them :/ Ive behringer now do some cheap models -
are these any good ?

Muchos thanks,
marc


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Re: (313) OT: Headphones

2003-09-01 Thread Mark S . Krüx
Now that Pioneer has released their new 1000 series phones the SE-DJ5000s
are available for under $100 bucks.I've been using them since '98
without any problems.  They're a little more than he's looking to spend but
they're very durable and I highly recommend them.

Lates,

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 A friend is looking for a pair of cans for DJ'ing - hes looking at
spending
 about 50GBP [75USD?] - does anyone have any recommendations ? I know the
 senn 25sps fit into that price bracket but every pauir I touch falls apart
 so Im loathe to recommend them :/ Ive behringer now do some cheap models -
 are these any good ?

 Muchos thanks,
 marc

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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-14 Thread robert.merlak
 I'm a freak. I disagree with everyone so far. :) My recommendation would
be
 to get different headphones for home listening and DJing.

just like me. for home use (producing, listening) i've got Beyerdynamic
DT 331's and for DJ and other occasional use i've got Sony MDR-V500's


i have Sennheiser HD250 for DJing and other outdoor activities :) and
Beyerdynamic DT831 with Meier-Audio's Porta Corda (headphone amp)
for home listening...

bye
rob



RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-14 Thread Darren Longton (Merch)
...and OF COURSE the studio standard, the AKG K240m's as well as the new lower 
Ohm rated version that just came out recently.  The most comfortable headphones 
I've ever had.  You could leave them on for 24hrs. and only forget that they're 
there.  Every pair of Sony's I've had, have broken somehow.  

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My 2 cents...

I personally hate the silver sonys.  I have owned the pair just under them.. 
the Sony V-600.  I make music into the wee hours of the night with these and 
they are comfy and no sound leaks out.  They fit over your whole ear instead of 
ON your ear like the silver sonys.  I have had them for 6 years now and Its 
nice to mix with them as well because they are a totally closed cup design and 
when your cuing you dont have spillage from your monitor into the headphones.

If my v-600s break.. Im goin to buy some new ones.  They are about $100...

peace





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  Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for 
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  as well as for home listening?
  
  
  Suggestions/reviews very welcome!
  
  
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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-14 Thread Langsman, Marc

 I have owned the pair 
 just under them.. the Sony V-600.  I make music into the wee 
 hours of the night with these and they are comfy and no sound 
 leaks out.  They fit over your whole ear instead of ON your 
 ear like the silver sonys. 

My sony's are silver and are 700's [I think] they have a closed-cup design
and do fit over your ears. Maybe there are a variety of sony silver cans ?

The ones I have are :
http://www.sonystyle.com/home/item.jsp?hierc=9688itemid=207

apparently they let you : Mix Your Music like a DJ

quite handy then ;)

peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-14 Thread Andrew
Personally speaking, and I know you probably won't agree, but I was given
some Beyerdynamic DT150's (the black ones) and they sound great, have
replaceable parts, and are very hard wearing. A bit expensive, though.

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...and OF COURSE the studio standard, the AKG K240m's as well as the new
lower Ohm rated version that just came out recently.  The most comfortable
headphones I've ever had.  You could leave them on for 24hrs. and only
forget that they're there.  Every pair of Sony's I've had, have broken
somehow.

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My 2 cents...

I personally hate the silver sonys.  I have owned the pair just under them..
the Sony V-600.  I make music into the wee hours of the night with these and
they are comfy and no sound leaks out.  They fit over your whole ear instead
of ON your ear like the silver sonys.  I have had them for 6 years now and
Its nice to mix with them as well because they are a totally closed cup
design and when your cuing you dont have spillage from your monitor into the
headphones.

If my v-600s break.. Im goin to buy some new ones.  They are about $100...

peace





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  mixing in a club
  as well as for home listening?
 
 
  Suggestions/reviews very welcome!
 
 
  Bye, Remco
 
 
 

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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-14 Thread Bulger, Tim
You must have tiny ears... The whole of the exposed part of my ear doesn't fit 
within the confines of the Sony 700 without being crushed against my head, 
resulting in annoying ear pain after an hour or two.  Why they make them round 
is a mystery to me when people's ears are more or less oval in shape.  I again 
reccommend the IXOS: http://gear.ign.com/articles/307131p1.html ... Additional 
reviews of other headphones for your reading pleasure: 
http://www.ecoustics.com/Home/Accessories/Headphones/Headphone_Reviews/2001/

Tim

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 I have owned the pair 
 just under them.. the Sony V-600.  I make music into the wee 
 hours of the night with these and they are comfy and no sound 
 leaks out.  They fit over your whole ear instead of ON your 
 ear like the silver sonys. 

My sony's are silver and are 700's [I think] they have a closed-cup design
and do fit over your ears. Maybe there are a variety of sony silver cans ?

The ones I have are :
http://www.sonystyle.com/home/item.jsp?hierc=9688itemid=207

apparently they let you : Mix Your Music like a DJ

quite handy then ;)

peace,
Marc

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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-13 Thread counterpoint69
My 2 cents...

I personally hate the silver sonys.  I have owned the pair just under them.. 
the Sony V-600.  I make music into the wee hours of the night with these and 
they are comfy and no sound leaks out.  They fit over your whole ear instead of 
ON your ear like the silver sonys.  I have had them for 6 years now and Its 
nice to mix with them as well because they are a totally closed cup design and 
when your cuing you dont have spillage from your monitor into the headphones.

If my v-600s break.. Im goin to buy some new ones.  They are about $100...

peace





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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-11 Thread Matthew Mangold
I use the Sennheiser HD-25SPs, and the only complaint I have is the
aforementioned tangling of the wire leading to each earpiece. $99.00 from
ProSound. Extremely lightweight, and excellent sound.

Matthew

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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-11 Thread robin pinning

 I use the Sennheiser HD-25SPs, and the only complaint I have is the
 aforementioned tangling of the wire leading to each earpiece. $99.00 from
 ProSound. Extremely lightweight, and excellent sound.

i have two pairs of these (one pair 8 years old) and it is a relatively
trivial mod to have both cables coming out of one side.

email me if you need explanation

cheers

robin...



(313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Remco . Doorewaard
Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for mixing in a club
as well as for home listening?


Suggestions/reviews very welcome!


Bye, Remco




RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Langsman, Marc

I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure what the model
number is] they were about 100GBP I think
- I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they clearly outclassed
the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at really high vols.

I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many others such as
technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt isolate as much
outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.

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 mixing in a club
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 Bye, Remco
 
 
 

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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Toby Frith
Sennheiser HD-25 1's

They're incredibly loud and all the parts are replaceable as well. They're
about 160 GBP, so I suppose about $210.


http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_headphones_dj
_02976

 General Description

The HD 25 SP-1 is a pair of closed dynamic headphones for persons with
severe hearing impairment 

;)



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 I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure what the model
 number is] they were about 100GBP I think
 - I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they clearly outclassed
 the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at really high vols.

 I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many others such as
 technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt isolate as
much
 outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.

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  Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for
  mixing in a club
  as well as for home listening?
 
 
  Suggestions/reviews very welcome!
 
 
  Bye, Remco
 
 
 

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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Sennheiser

I don't use a closed cup earphone though because of the risk of tinnitus
Sennheiser makes both open and closed models though
Their sound is much more accurate (and clear/defined) than any other
headphone I've ever used and I find that generally they are loud enough for
most environments - and I have found that the more accurate the sound is,
the less volume I actually need because things aren't muddy and I don't
need to turn up the cue (and if I'm following another DJ I find myself
often turning the cue volume down).
Sennheiser headphones can get expensive but usually the more you pay for
headphones the better the quality - the most important thing is not to
skimp on the quality of the sound because it's not just your mix that you
should be concerned about but also your hearing and the health of your
ears. Tinnitus sucks.

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm.nsf

MEK




  
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Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for mixing in a club
as well as for home listening?


Suggestions/reviews very welcome!


Bye, Remco








Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Michael Lees

There is a cheaper version which I have,

Sennheiser HD-25SP

which are half the price. Again everything is replacable, I've had them 
2 years now and I use them ALL the time still work fine. I think 
Sennheiser have some weird guarantee that new parts will be available 
for up to 10 years from the day you bought them ?!


The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire connects to both 
ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which 
really starts to p*ss you off after a while.


One good thing is the weight - they're very light. I don't find them too 
'pinchy' on the ears.


--Mike

Toby Frith wrote:

Sennheiser HD-25 1's

They're incredibly loud and all the parts are replaceable as well. They're
about 160 GBP, so I suppose about $210.


http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_headphones_dj
_02976

 General Description

The HD 25 SP-1 is a pair of closed dynamic headphones for persons with
severe hearing impairment 

;)



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I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure what the model
number is] they were about 100GBP I think
- I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they clearly outclassed
the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at really high vols.

I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many others such as
technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt isolate as


much


outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.



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Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for
mixing in a club
as well as for home listening?


Suggestions/reviews very welcome!


Bye, Remco





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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Langsman, Marc

I know lots of people who swear by the 25sp's - being a complete malco
however I tend to find it pretty easy to pull the wires out / cups off

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 From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 October 2002 14:49
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) OT: headphones
 
 
 There is a cheaper version which I have,
 
 Sennheiser HD-25SP
 
 which are half the price. Again everything is replacable, 
 I've had them 
 2 years now and I use them ALL the time still work fine. I think 
 Sennheiser have some weird guarantee that new parts will be available 
 for up to 10 years from the day you bought them ?!
 
 The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire 
 connects to both 
 ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which 
 really starts to p*ss you off after a while.
 
 One good thing is the weight - they're very light. I don't 
 find them too 
 'pinchy' on the ears.
 
 --Mike
 
 Toby Frith wrote:
  Sennheiser HD-25 1's
  
  They're incredibly loud and all the parts are replaceable 
 as well. They're
  about 160 GBP, so I suppose about $210.
  
  
  
 http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products
 _headphones_dj
  _02976
  
   General Description
  
  The HD 25 SP-1 is a pair of closed dynamic headphones for 
 persons with
  severe hearing impairment 
  
  ;)
  
  
  
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 I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure 
 what the model
 number is] they were about 100GBP I think
 - I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they 
 clearly outclassed
 the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at 
 really high vols.
 
 I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many 
 others such as
 technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt 
 isolate as
  
  much
  
 outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.
 
 
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 as well as for home listening?
 
 
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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Toby Frith
  The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire
  connects to both
  ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which
  really starts to p*ss you off after a while.

Yep. That's the reason I didn't get them!





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Subject: RE: (313) OT: headphones



 I know lots of people who swear by the 25sp's - being a complete malco
 however I tend to find it pretty easy to pull the wires out / cups off

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  From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: (313) OT: headphones
 
 
  There is a cheaper version which I have,
 
  Sennheiser HD-25SP
 
  which are half the price. Again everything is replacable,
  I've had them
  2 years now and I use them ALL the time still work fine. I think
  Sennheiser have some weird guarantee that new parts will be available
  for up to 10 years from the day you bought them ?!
 
  The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire
  connects to both
  ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which
  really starts to p*ss you off after a while.
 
  One good thing is the weight - they're very light. I don't
  find them too
  'pinchy' on the ears.
 
  --Mike
 
  Toby Frith wrote:
   Sennheiser HD-25 1's
  
   They're incredibly loud and all the parts are replaceable
  as well. They're
   about 160 GBP, so I suppose about $210.
  
  
  
  http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products
  _headphones_dj
   _02976
  
General Description
  
   The HD 25 SP-1 is a pair of closed dynamic headphones for
  persons with
   severe hearing impairment 
  
   ;)
  
  
  
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  I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure
  what the model
  number is] they were about 100GBP I think
  - I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they
  clearly outclassed
  the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at
  really high vols.
  
  I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many
  others such as
  technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt
  isolate as
  
   much
  
  outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.
  
  
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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Michael Lees



Toby Frith wrote:

The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire
connects to both
ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which
really starts to p*ss you off after a while.




Yep. That's the reason I didn't get them!



I'm quite happy being strangled for 80






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Subject: RE: (313) OT: headphones




I know lots of people who swear by the 25sp's - being a complete malco
however I tend to find it pretty easy to pull the wires out / cups off



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From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 October 2002 14:49
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) OT: headphones


There is a cheaper version which I have,

Sennheiser HD-25SP

which are half the price. Again everything is replacable,
I've had them
2 years now and I use them ALL the time still work fine. I think
Sennheiser have some weird guarantee that new parts will be available
for up to 10 years from the day you bought them ?!

The only slightly annoying this about the SP's is wire
connects to both
ears and they do tend to tangle a lot and start strangling you which
really starts to p*ss you off after a while.

One good thing is the weight - they're very light. I don't
find them too
'pinchy' on the ears.

--Mike

Toby Frith wrote:


Sennheiser HD-25 1's

They're incredibly loud and all the parts are replaceable


as well. They're


about 160 GBP, so I suppose about $210.





http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products
_headphones_dj


_02976

 General Description

The HD 25 SP-1 is a pair of closed dynamic headphones for


persons with


severe hearing impairment 

;)



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I recently scored a pair of the silver sony jobs [not sure



what the model


number is] they were about 100GBP I think
- I listened to them next to pair fo technics and they



clearly outclassed


the technics - the sonys show virtually no distortion at



really high vols.


I also find the sony's fit over my ears well wheres as many



others such as


technics and senheiser sit kind of on your ear which doesnt



isolate as


much



outside noise and isnt too comfy imo.




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Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for
mixing in a club
as well as for home listening?


Suggestions/reviews very welcome!


Bye, Remco









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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Langsman, Marc

 I can't handle that closed ear business, especially when 
 DJing, as it makes
 you either monitor via headphones or monitors, never 
 somewhere in between. 

I always gone for the one ear in phones other ear to monitors strategy 

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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Neil Wallace

I absolutely *hate* sennheisers, I got a set of beyer dynamic phones
about 4years ago - they sound *really* clear at any volume, theyre
comfortable, everything is replaceable and at 100GBP they seemed
expensive at the time but given how long they've lasted I reckon its
very reasonable.
My only slight quibble would be that the bass response is not as much as
other phones though personally I find it quite nice, particularly when
producing, since I find lots off bass can reduce the general clarity of
the sound.

Oh yeah and the silver sony numbers marc has got are nice as well comfy,
well built, nice sound and marc hasn't broken them yet which is quite an
endorsement!

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:I don't use a closed cup earphone though because of the risk of
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:Sennheiser makes both open and closed models though
:Their sound is much more accurate (and clear/defined) than any other
:headphone I've ever used and I find that generally they are loud enough
for
:most environments - and I have found that the more accurate the sound
is,
:the less volume I actually need because things aren't muddy and I don't
:need to turn up the cue (and if I'm following another DJ I find myself
:often turning the cue volume down).
:Sennheiser headphones can get expensive but usually the more you pay
for
:headphones the better the quality - the most important thing is not to
:skimp on the quality of the sound because it's not just your mix that
you
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Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Greg Earle
Michael Lees wrote:
 There is a cheaper version which I have,
 
 Sennheiser HD-25SP
 
 which are half the price.  Again everything is replacable, I've had them 
 2 years now and I use them ALL the time still work fine.  I think 
 Sennheiser have some weird guarantee that new parts will be available 
 for up to 10 years from the day you bought them ?!

They can even do better than that.

I've owned one pair of headphones my entire adult life.  Sennheiser HD 424's.
(The Open Aire design)

I bought them 26 years ago.  They were the first thing I bought when I moved
to California to go to college  :-)

You can still get the ear pads and the transducer bit (erm ... whatever the
sound thingie/speaker bit is called) from Sennheiser today.  Amazing.

- Greg




Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread audax
This is exactly it.  Headphone technology is at the level where if you treat 
them right, they will last 20+ years.  I have been looking for headphones like 
this for years, but I became frustrated at the local selection and ended up 
getting the Sony 700's.  I use headphones for music production primarily, 
DJ'ing second and then general music listening/gaming.  Although the Sony's are 
solid, I know there is a lot that I am missing.  Looks like Sennheiser 
understands what an audiophile requires.

Great thread.

Iam Electro


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 Date: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:01 pm
 Subject: Re: (313) OT: headphones
  They can even do better than that.
  
  I've owned one pair of headphones my entire adult life.  
  Sennheiser HD 424's.
  (The Open Aire design)
  
  I bought them 26 years ago.  They were the first thing I bought 
  when I moved
  to California to go to college  :-)
  
  You can still get the ear pads and the transducer bit (erm ... 
  whatever the
  sound thingie/speaker bit is called) from Sennheiser today.  
 Amazing. 
  - Greg
  
  
  
 



Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Tristan Watkins
I'm a freak. I disagree with everyone so far. :) My recommendation would be
to get different headphones for home listening and DJing. If you're looking
at spending around £100, it wouldn't cost too much more to pull this off. I
have never heard anything quite as nice as my Grado's (and I've used the
Sennheiser's a number of times). I have the Prestige 125's, which isn't even
close to the top of their line. Check it out here, and most importantly,
find some place to give them a listen. They are stunning.
http://www.gradolabs.com

I never use these for DJing though. They have 360 degree rotating earpieces,
which are somewhat annoying for DJing, and I prefer a closed earpiece (for
what that's worth). The trick with a closed earpiece is not to put it over
your entire ear, but cup it over the rear half, top half, or whatever's
comfortable. This is what works for me anywhow... Open air headphones sound
absolutely brilliant, but I want to be able to close off the outside sound
at times, and if you cup your hand over an open air earpiece you get phasing
first, then muffling. Whatever... it doesn't work so great for me, and I
want something I can abuse to all hell while DJing, not audiophile
headphones I'll be afraid of damaging.

For Djing I use the Sony MDRV-600's, which I've had about 7 years now,
original purchase price around $120 I think. I broke one of the headphones
to the point where it was attached only by the tiny audio wire leading into
the earpiece. A little duct tape has held these together for 4 or 5 years
since. Personally, I much prefer the bigger cup on the 600s to the 700s. I
also prefer the flatter frequency response. The 700s are all bass and high
if you ask me, which I don't much care for. I also don't like the way they
sit on my head, but this is absolutely a personal preference issue. If I
bought new headphones now, I'd get some big, loud, foldable, reasonably
cheap headphones with a chord I liked, hopefully paying no more than £50. I
think sound quality is almost a non-issue in DJ headphones. Look at TP and
his phone. Volume and comfort are the most essential qualities. Anyway, this
is why I think trying to find one pair of headphones is the wrong solution,
but YMMV of course.

Tristan
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RE: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Bulger, Tim
I would be lax if I failed to mention the (don't cringe) Ixos Ministry
of Sound DJ1001.  I picked a pair up a couple of months ago and have
been really happy with them.  The best part is that they don't crush
your ear against your head like the Sony ones will and they have a
stereo/mono switch that is great for mixing.  www.ixos.co.uk  Mind you,
I dumped my MDR-V700DJs for these.

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Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for mixing in a
club as well as for home listening?


Suggestions/reviews very welcome!


Bye, Remco




Re: (313) OT: headphones

2002-10-10 Thread Neontsetse
I only use Kraftwerk-Headphones

they are built into my Darth Vader Helmet

but don´t ask me about them - very very exclusive

by the way: I found out for djing in a club it´s good

to switch off the lightsabre (otherwise you might hurt yourself

also people might think you´re into some kind of glowsticks-business

- experienced both last, week when luke was in town for a gig





 I would be lax if I failed to mention the (don't cringe) Ixos Ministry
 of Sound DJ1001.  I picked a pair up a couple of months ago and have
 been really happy with them.  The best part is that they don't crush
 your ear against your head like the Sony ones will and they have a
 stereo/mono switch that is great for mixing.  www.ixos.co.uk  Mind you,
 I dumped my MDR-V700DJs for these.
 
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 Subject: (313) OT: headphones
 
 
 Hi, what would you consider to be the best headphones for mixing in a
 club as well as for home listening?
 
 
 Suggestions/reviews very welcome!
 
 
 Bye, Remco