Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
tom thanks for the kind words but NO THANKS!!! Im giving relivent information to the coversation that is relivent to MY life that just HAPPENS to relate to this thread like dale said this is a SECURITY issue its some thing I have seen 10s of times on lists and forums read it for what its worth take it how you want but the words are the words... if I was tring to promote my gig with jan I would have posted the flyer or the press release for that show on the 23rd into this thread, I havent donethat... if I wanted to promote gigs I would have posted info about sundays gig or the one Im playing with pheek on thursday in this thread BUT THEY ARE NOT RELIVENT TO THIS THREAD SO IM NOT!!! Im having dinner on the 23rd with an artist that is being discussed in THIS thread and said I can ask him in relation to this discussion and give you HIS input. if you are not secure with your life and want to poo poo mine that is your own issue but my life and the things that happen in are in realtion to THIS thread so DEAL with it!!! (I dont expect you to understand as obviously your to wrapped up in being hardcore and underground) neil www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
...that sound you hear is neil breaking his foot off in tom cox's tomcox Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tom thanks for the kind words but NO THANKS!!! Im giving relivent information to the coversation that is relivent to MY life that just HAPPENS to relate to this thread like dale said this is a SECURITY issue its some thing I have seen 10s of times on lists and forums read it for what its worth take it how you want but the words are the words... if I was tring to promote my gig with jan I would have posted the flyer or the press release for that show on the 23rd into this thread, I havent donethat... if I wanted to promote gigs I would have posted info about sundays gig or the one Im playing with pheek on thursday in this thread BUT THEY ARE NOT RELIVENT TO THIS THREAD SO IM NOT!!! Im having dinner on the 23rd with an artist that is being discussed in THIS thread and said I can ask him in relation to this discussion and give you HIS input. if you are not secure with your life and want to poo poo mine that is your own issue but my life and the things that happen in are in realtion to THIS thread so DEAL with it!!! (I dont expect you to understand as obviously your to wrapped up in being hardcore and underground) neil www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
LMAO On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, /0 wrote: ...that sound you hear is neil breaking his foot off in tom cox's tomcox Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tom thanks for the kind words but NO THANKS!!! Im giving relivent information to the coversation that is relivent to MY life that just HAPPENS to relate to this thread like dale said this is a SECURITY issue its some thing I have seen 10s of times on lists and forums read it for what its worth take it how you want but the words are the words... if I was tring to promote my gig with jan I would have posted the flyer or the press release for that show on the 23rd into this thread, I havent donethat... if I wanted to promote gigs I would have posted info about sundays gig or the one Im playing with pheek on thursday in this thread BUT THEY ARE NOT RELIVENT TO THIS THREAD SO IM NOT!!! Im having dinner on the 23rd with an artist that is being discussed in THIS thread and said I can ask him in relation to this discussion and give you HIS input. if you are not secure with your life and want to poo poo mine that is your own issue but my life and the things that happen in are in realtion to THIS thread so DEAL with it!!! (I dont expect you to understand as obviously your to wrapped up in being hardcore and underground) neil www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
On 9/5/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...that sound you hear is neil breaking his foot off in tom cox's tomcox it sounded to me like more blatant self promotion. but then again i guess its all subjective, right? suckers. tom
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
I don't presume to know how people live their lives; the most one can address is what people actually write to the list. It sure must be a slow month for new releases. On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You live your life based on oversimplified stereotypes.
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
At 10:25 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote: I don't presume to know how people live their lives; the most one can address is what people actually write to the list. It sure must be a slow month for new releases. On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You live your life based on oversimplified stereotypes. That was the irony... that because I had to simplify what I was saying, it made the message so vague that it became a stereotype of its own. ...but its really just irrelevant nonsense.
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
At 01:31 PM 9/3/2006, you wrote: On 9/3/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...but its really just irrelevant nonsense. when did we start talking about your music? tmo I speak from my own experience. Should I pretend I don't make music? Would that make my opinions more valid? Do I intimidate you? Are you scared? Tell me your fears... Neil is having dinner with Jan Jelinek... and he can ask a question pertinent to a discussion about him personally. Should he pretend he'll never meet the guy and that he himself works at McDonalds?... Staying true to the underground? It's hard to juggle experience, or even your own successes (even if only moderate), when talking to other people... it's a difficult line between simply being yourself and discussing your experience-- which is after all who you are-- or just bragging.
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
On 9/3/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I intimidate you? not a chance. Neil is having dinner with Jan Jelinek... and he can ask a question pertinent to a discussion about him personally. Should he pretend he'll never meet the guy and that he himself works at McDonalds?... Staying true to the underground? neil has a habit of posting only when it helps him look good, like for his upcoming gigs, or to mention having dinner with jan jenelik. i tend not to namedrop (though the late night dinner at the world famous O in pittsburgh with Louis Haiman and Titonton Duvante the other night was in fact quite scrumptous! :) because i'm not a tool who cares what other people think of me, and i dont think people will think more highly of me or my opinion because of whom i call my friends. It's hard to juggle experience, or even your own successes (even if only moderate), when talking to other people... it's a difficult line between simply being yourself and discussing your experience-- which is after all who you are-- or just bragging. its really not that hard. i know plenty of people who say what they think, and my knowledge of their experiences is the only way in which said experiences enter the discussion. i know you have made many records, its completely irrelevent to me. you could be joker X from some mailing list (wait a second, you are!) and i would treat you exactly the same. tom
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
thanks dale you took the words right out of my mouth!!! :) On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, Dale Lawrence wrote: At 01:31 PM 9/3/2006, you wrote: On 9/3/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...but its really just irrelevant nonsense. when did we start talking about your music? tmo I speak from my own experience. Should I pretend I don't make music? Would that make my opinions more valid? Do I intimidate you? Are you scared? Tell me your fears... Neil is having dinner with Jan Jelinek... and he can ask a question pertinent to a discussion about him personally. Should he pretend he'll never meet the guy and that he himself works at McDonalds?... Staying true to the underground? It's hard to juggle experience, or even your own successes (even if only moderate), when talking to other people... it's a difficult line between simply being yourself and discussing your experience-- which is after all who you are-- or just bragging. www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
and i dont say digital is bad - not at all - i.e. look at convextion..much of his stuff sounds really good. i dont know about his whole audio signal circuitry but i remember he was using a digital jd800 as sound source for many of his track.. it aint deepchord,but still much more ear pleasing than the regular software synth driven piles of lego ;) J.T. correct me if im wrong or check snorri arnarson's (octal/thule) timbres getting out of his clavia synth - to get a fuller image of what i mean..
RE: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
This laptop debate is very boring - it's too cold and emotionless - it doesn't have enough warmth and crackle :P -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2006 17:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices. and i dont say digital is bad - not at all - i.e. look at convextion..much of his stuff sounds really good. i dont know about his whole audio signal circuitry but i remember he was using a digital jd800 as sound source for many of his track.. it aint deepchord,but still much more ear pleasing than the regular software synth driven piles of lego ;) J.T. correct me if im wrong or check snorri arnarson's (octal/thule) timbres getting out of his clavia synth - to get a fuller image of what i mean.. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
You should print the thread and read it on paper, that will add some warmth to it :) or even transcribe it down to paper and than read it :)) IMHO it's best to use best of both worlds. For pure sound analog sounds better than software, but software can do some things that no analog hardware can do, and it would be silly to totally ignore it. Jernej www.octex.si Robert Taylor wrote: This laptop debate is very boring - it's too cold and emotionless - it doesn't have enough warmth and crackle :P -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2006 17:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices. and i dont say digital is bad - not at all - i.e. look at convextion..much of his stuff sounds really good. i dont know about his whole audio signal circuitry but i remember he was using a digital jd800 as sound source for many of his track.. it aint deepchord,but still much more ear pleasing than the regular software synth driven piles of lego ;) J.T. correct me if im wrong or check snorri arnarson's (octal/thule) timbres getting out of his clavia synth - to get a fuller image of what i mean.. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # 29092006 Club K4, Ljubljana [DJ set]
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
You should print the thread and read it on paper, that will add some warmth to it :) or even transcribe it down to paper and than read it :)) ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) i do have problems with full understanding of more complex stuff read off a screen. i learn/aquire much better..from paper plus i love its mobility.. and yes, i hate the super-white light-reflecting sheets, i prefere 3rd class yellow vintage paper to be honest.
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^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage.
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage. i think he might have been referring to your posts. i know i havent been able to make it through them because its just too much going on and on. tom
Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.
At 05:25 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote: On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage. i think he might have been referring to your posts. i know i havent been able to make it through them because its just too much going on and on. tom Are people really that mean? Wow, I knew I was a tool... I can't even tell when people are taking a jab at me. Anyway... I'm sorry, I'll try to simple it down for you next time. If you quit reiterating what I said as if it was your own argument it would've been a lot shorter. I'll sum it up: You live your life based on oversimplified stereotypes. Better?
