(313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer
- Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what it is. I've known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the other day. Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any other info I should know before plungeing in? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? My vote is: Hardfloor - Acpierence. The hi hats sound a lot like an oooh-ahhh synth. Amazing. For 80s stuff, I like a lot the drum breaks part of New Order's Bizarre Love Triangle (Substance mix). Anyone knows who remixed it? []s 2/0 --- Check out TWO DIVIDED BY ZERO new track: I | N | T | R | O | S | P | E | C | T | I | V | E http://www.twodividedbyzero.com/music/trax/introspective.mp3 ||| || | | ||| || from the forthcoming album A P P E A R A N C E http://www.twodividedbyzero.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer
tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what it is. I've known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the other day. Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any other info I should know before plungeing in? Hmm well this is kind of a curious piece, so I got home and dug out my copy. I somehow was lucky enough to get one of the clear/pale green vinyl copies on 33rpm (was this the pressing before Sinewave perhaps? [Not to be confused with Synewave!]). Picked up mine at Record Time ages ago... but I think they're hard (but not impossible) to find used, maybe eBay. Here are pics of the only 2 versions of artwork I know about: http://www.discogs.com/view_images/?type=Rwid=81837 etching on the inside is DKB - RA331 (is that Damon Booker's initials or what?) inscription reads put the needle to the groove and hear virtual reality ... with NSC logo I have no idea of the # of these that came out... also there is no mention of Sinewave mine, maybe it was before? But it's got the Black Market Promotion label, which I also remember seeing on flyers in Detroit during that time.. anyone? The logo is vaguely familiar, it's a black and white graphic of a guy looks like he might be doing a wicked dance move with 2 fists kind of in the air? ha.. in fact now I remember, I think the record sleeve had a Black Market Promotions 3x5 promo reply card card in the jacket that I must have lost somewhere along the way, bah. Okay all pressing bullsh!t aside, this is one phenomenal 4-tracker of early Dan Curtin... (1992?) jaw-dropping change ups, sequences, drum programming, tons of 808, searing synth sounds and all around pure electronic techno funk. You can hear where Titonton took off from hearing this type of stuff and that whole Ohio/Columbus / Charles Noel / 21/22 and early Morgan Geist could even be traced back to these kind of sounds as a major influence. It's the detroit moods and crazy funky drum and synth programming.. he was the first to lay it down quite like this in such an incredible forceful way.. a tinge of breakbeat in it too. I must say I feel lucky to have it and it's one of my very favorites in the detroit end of my crates. Really a unique and totally funked-out piece of techno. Dan C. if you are lurking out there somewhere, was this your first record? How did it all go down? peace, Matt MacQueen
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Er, Thirded. 'Third From The Sun' EP on Peacefrog 1995, plus the collection on Web of Life also Peacefrog is still some of the most spellbindingly melodic techno I've heard. I've always thought that his drum programming is amazing. As I said to you recently Tristan, I feel it's plausible at a push to hear Curtin's beat programming as proto-broken beats. You all know I love to speculate, but I can't feel that it's too much of a push to see a link in some quarters/senses. Third From The Sun is in my top 3 all-time techno tracks in the world ever! Peacefrog being Peacefrog, you're blessed with a lot of back catalogue still being available. However, it's been years since I saw that Web of Life collection anywhere. k -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:27 AM To: Matt MacQueen; kj at technotourist dot org; 313 Subject: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what it is. I've known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the other day. Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any other info I should know before plungeing in? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the 'third from the sun' track is on dego and marc mac's deepest shade of techno vol 1 (never been lucky enough to get near a full 12 of it) probs my favorite track on there that i still play quite regularly (if anyone wwants to hear it it's on my Lites Down Low mix on www.emotionelectric.com) anyway the fact that it's on that compilation backs ken's statement below about it being proto-broken beats. and to get back to the original topic, great programming on all levels. robin... - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - org] On Behalf Of Odeluga, Ken - Sent: 03 December 2003 07:31 - To: Phonopsia; Matt MacQueen; kj at technotourist dot org; 313 - Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the - funky 808 drummer - - - Er, Thirded. - - 'Third From The Sun' EP on Peacefrog 1995, plus the - collection on Web of - Life also Peacefrog is still some of the most - spellbindingly melodic techno - I've heard. I've always thought that his drum programming is amazing. - - As I said to you recently Tristan, I feel it's plausible at - a push to hear - Curtin's beat programming as proto-broken beats. You all - know I love to - speculate, but I can't feel that it's too much of a push to - see a link in - some quarters/senses. - - Third From The Sun is in my top 3 all-time techno tracks - in the world - ever! - - Peacefrog being Peacefrog, you're blessed with a lot of back - catalogue still - being available. However, it's been years since I saw that - Web of Life - collection anywhere. - - k - - - - -Original Message- - From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:27 AM - To: Matt MacQueen; kj at technotourist dot org; 313 - Subject: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky - 808 drummer - - - - Original Message - - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 - 313@hyperreal.org - Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:17 PM - Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer - - - tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of - tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot - the track - titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) - - - Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what - it is. I've - known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the - other day. - Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any - other info - I should know before plungeing in? - - Tristan - === - http://www.phonopsia.co.uk - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - -
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if you can get your hands on a copy of, the web of life [PF 038] http://www.discogs.com/release/10289 ... there's a great selection of earlier sinewave/metamorphic, dan curtin tracks. this may prove easier then tracking down the individual EP's. check dan's work as apogee on peacefrog as well cheers, lrh From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/03 Wed AM 01:32:24 EST To: 313 313@hyperreal.org, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what it is. I've known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the other day. Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any other info I should know before plungeing in? Hmm well this is kind of a curious piece, so I got home and dug out my copy. I somehow was lucky enough to get one of the clear/pale green vinyl copies on 33rpm (was this the pressing before Sinewave perhaps? [Not to be confused with Synewave!]). Picked up mine at Record Time ages ago... but I think they're hard (but not impossible) to find used, maybe eBay. Here are pics of the only 2 versions of artwork I know about: http://www.discogs.com/view_images/?type=Rwid=81837 etching on the inside is DKB - RA331 (is that Damon Booker's initials or what?) inscription reads put the needle to the groove and hear virtual reality ... with NSC logo I have no idea of the # of these that came out... also there is no mention of Sinewave mine, maybe it was before? But it's got the Black Market Promotion label, which I also remember seeing on flyers in Detroit during that time.. anyone? The logo is vaguely familiar, it's a black and white graphic of a guy looks like he might be doing a wicked dance move with 2 fists kind of in the air? ha.. in fact now I remember, I think the record sleeve had a Black Market Promotions 3x5 promo reply card card in the jacket that I must have lost somewhere along the way, bah. Okay all pressing bullsh!t aside, this is one phenomenal 4-tracker of early Dan Curtin... (1992?) jaw-dropping change ups, sequences, drum programming, tons of 808, searing synth sounds and all around pure electronic techno funk. You can hear where Titonton took off from hearing this type of stuff and that whole Ohio/Columbus / Charles Noel / 21/22 and early Morgan Geist could even be traced back to these kind of sounds as a major influence. It's the detroit moods and crazy funky drum and synth programming.. he was the first to lay it down quite like this in such an incredible forceful way.. a tinge of breakbeat in it too. I must say I feel lucky to have it and it's one of my very favorites in the detroit end of my crates. Really a unique and totally funked-out piece of techno. Dan C. if you are lurking out there somewhere, was this your first record? How did it all go down? peace, Matt MacQueen
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As I said earlier, I've not seen that collection for some years, but somebody might be selling somewhere online ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer if you can get your hands on a copy of, the web of life [PF 038] http://www.discogs.com/release/10289 ... there's a great selection of earlier sinewave/metamorphic, dan curtin tracks. this may prove easier then tracking down the individual EP's. check dan's work as apogee on peacefrog as well cheers, lrh From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/03 Wed AM 01:32:24 EST To: 313 313@hyperreal.org, Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts) Absolutely! I've only just recently discovered that this is what it is. I've known those songs forever, but never but names to beats until the other day. Is it hard to find? Good pressings to seek out? Bad to avoid? Any other info I should know before plungeing in? Hmm well this is kind of a curious piece, so I got home and dug out my copy. I somehow was lucky enough to get one of the clear/pale green vinyl copies on 33rpm (was this the pressing before Sinewave perhaps? [Not to be confused with Synewave!]). Picked up mine at Record Time ages ago... but I think they're hard (but not impossible) to find used, maybe eBay. Here are pics of the only 2 versions of artwork I know about: http://www.discogs.com/view_images/?type=Rwid=81837 etching on the inside is DKB - RA331 (is that Damon Booker's initials or what?) inscription reads put the needle to the groove and hear virtual reality ... with NSC logo I have no idea of the # of these that came out... also there is no mention of Sinewave mine, maybe it was before? But it's got the Black Market Promotion label, which I also remember seeing on flyers in Detroit during that time.. anyone? The logo is vaguely familiar, it's a black and white graphic of a guy looks like he might be doing a wicked dance move with 2 fists kind of in the air? ha.. in fact now I remember, I think the record sleeve had a Black Market Promotions 3x5 promo reply card card in the jacket that I must have lost somewhere along the way, bah. Okay all pressing bullsh!t aside, this is one phenomenal 4-tracker of early Dan Curtin... (1992?) jaw-dropping change ups, sequences, drum programming, tons of 808, searing synth sounds and all around pure electronic techno funk. You can hear where Titonton took off from hearing this type of stuff and that whole Ohio/Columbus / Charles Noel / 21/22 and early Morgan Geist could even be traced back to these kind of sounds as a major influence. It's the detroit moods and crazy funky drum and synth programming.. he was the first to lay it down quite like this in such an incredible forceful way.. a tinge of breakbeat in it too. I must say I feel lucky to have it and it's one of my very favorites in the detroit end of my crates. Really a unique and totally funked-out piece of techno. Dan C. if you are lurking out there somewhere, was this your first record? How did it all go down? peace, Matt MacQueen
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don't forget the fantastic no way back by adonis. classic 808 programming at its best.
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- Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: RE: (313) Dan Curtin Sun EP - was Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Er, Thirded. You're a silly one, Mr. Odeluga. :) 'Third From The Sun' EP on Peacefrog 1995, plus the collection on Web of Life also Peacefrog is still some of the most spellbindingly melodic techno I've heard. I've always thought that his drum programming is amazing. I'm a total knob! No wonder this sounded so familiar to me. I had the Web of Life CD since it came out, but it was stolen from me a couple of years ago. Doh! Time to go back on the hunt. As I said to you recently Tristan, I feel it's plausible at a push to hear Curtin's beat programming as proto-broken beats. You all know I love to speculate, but I can't feel that it's too much of a push to see a link in some quarters/senses. Yeah, I can definitely see it in a way, particularly in his earlier stuff. In fact there's a fair amount of proto-broken beat stuff I can think of, like Sensurreal and Gerd and some of the mid-90s Titonton stuff. But really if you wanna talk proto-broken beats check Pal Joey's 'Hot Music' and of course 'Bug in the Bassbin'. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] opening a can of worms with that comment...have you seen mills play live on a 909??but yea they are both way beyond most anyone when it comes to programming a 909...lets just say they are both VERY good at what they do;-) ill take shawn rudiman over either. he murders things with his 808 + 909 live. ive heard him beatmatch a 909 with a Bugz in the Attic track on the fly. it was possibly the illest live electronic trick ive seen pulled aside from the beginning of Ayro's set at Movement. tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] In terms of productions (or live for that matter), for my drum programming peso, I will take Titonton. From the early 21/22 stuff through today, his swing has always hit me hardest. tito uses a drum station for his 808 and 909, hence the swing will definitely not sound like the typical 909 or 808 patterns. he is definitely good at drum programming. for me though, old school jungle rules the school. remarc and krome and time will make any other drum programmers look like jokers. tom andythepooh.com
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Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK Michael, ive got an mp3 of pomping world (which is most likely the reason they stated this about him in his bio... amazing!) by InSync. email me if you want it and ill ftp it for ya. derek. Good track :D
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Adam H wrote: Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: Michael, ive got an mp3 of pomping world (which is most likely the reason they stated this about him in his bio... amazing!) by InSync. email me if you want it and ill ftp it for ya. derek. Good track :D ...and a BIG thank you to mr adam h for turnin me onto it, among many many other greats. thank you, adam! derek.
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Strongly disagree. -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2003 11:01 To: Michael Mitchell Cc: Michael Mitchell; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer well yes, of course I've seen him. he spins records really well but I almost gag when he steps to the 909 :) my motha can 909 better :p - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer opening a can of worms with that comment...have you seen mills play live on a 909??but yea they are both way beyond most anyone when it comes to programming a 909...lets just say they are both VERY good at what they do;-) michael www.renegaderhythms.com I'd personally put hawtin above mills Im basing that off live 909 use though :\ this si a fun thread! - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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I've seen him recently too and I'd back that statement up Jason ill take shawn rudiman over either. he murders things with his 808 + 909 live. ive heard him beatmatch a 909 with a Bugz in the Attic track on the fly. it was possibly the illest live electronic trick ive seen pulled aside from the beginning of Ayro's set at Movement. tom andythepooh.com
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Likewise - on a bad day Shawn can still beat the sh#t out of Richie and Jeff put together on that machine - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton To: 313 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Fwd: (313) the funky 808 drummer I've seen him recently too and I'd back that statement up Jason ill take shawn rudiman over either. he murders things with his 808 + 909 live. ive heard him beatmatch a 909 with a Bugz in the Attic track on the fly. it was possibly the illest live electronic trick ive seen pulled aside from the beginning of Ayro's set at Movement. tom andythepooh.com
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i've seen swayzak use a 909 in their live set, and it's pretty ridiculous. On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Matt Chester wrote: Likewise - on a bad day Shawn can still beat the sh#t out of Richie and Jeff put together on that machine - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton To: 313 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Fwd: (313) the funky 808 drummer I've seen him recently too and I'd back that statement up Jason ill take shawn rudiman over either. he murders things with his 808 + 909 live. ive heard him beatmatch a 909 with a Bugz in the Attic track on the fly. it was possibly the illest live electronic trick ive seen pulled aside from the beginning of Ayro's set at Movement. tom andythepooh.com
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not really 313 but i guess that 312 is cool to, so i just wanna mention the early Mike Dearborn records here. Hardcore Swinger is one of the funkiest 808 beats i know! Deviant Behavior from the Strictly Underground EP is some seriously clever 909 programming Oh early Advent stuff has some great 909/808 stuff to KJ On 2-dec-03, at 20:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've seen swayzak use a 909 in their live set, and it's pretty ridiculous. On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Matt Chester wrote: Likewise - on a bad day Shawn can still beat the sh#t out of Richie and Jeff put together on that machine - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton To: 313 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Fwd: (313) the funky 808 drummer I've seen him recently too and I'd back that statement up Jason ill take shawn rudiman over either. he murders things with his 808 + 909 live. ive heard him beatmatch a 909 with a Bugz in the Attic track on the fly. it was possibly the illest live electronic trick ive seen pulled aside from the beginning of Ayro's set at Movement. tom andythepooh.com
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how about Psyche: From Beyond... oooh the perfect cowbell also Morgan Geist: Vectors of Interpretation on Metamorphic tons of old Dan Curtin stuff could qualify in my book too.. any of tracks from 3rd from the Sun EP on 33rpm/Sinwave (forgot the track titles, but dang some of those are mad 808 workouts)
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Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? It ain't 313, but Meshell Ndegeocello's first album Plantation Lullabies is chock full of drum programming to die for. My $.02, -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
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Aphex Twin's entire Richard D. James Album without a doubt Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK -- Allen Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fksche.com
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Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing Allen Goodman wrote: Aphex Twin's entire Richard D. James Album without a doubt Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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Ok ok - how about keeping it to more 313 techno related artists and tunes? MEK Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] g cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer 12/01/03 11:20 AM Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing Allen Goodman wrote: Aphex Twin's entire Richard D. James Album without a doubt Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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Not to nitpick but this remark is about InSync's Storm (brilliant record btw.) which is clever 909 programming not 808 :) On 1-dec-03, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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F*ck it. I'm going back to bed ;D kj at technotourist dotTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org cc: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer 12/01/03 11:39 AM Not to nitpick but this remark is about InSync's Storm (brilliant record btw.) which is clever 909 programming not 808 :) On 1-dec-03, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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More 909 than 808 as well, I'd say the bit of drum programming most likely to cause me to dislocate a knee on the dancefloor is Suburban Knight's The Art of Stalking... also, Spectral Nomad by Robert Hood ends up sounding nearly four times as fast as its real BPM due to the dense and inordinately funky drum programming Mr Hood came up with. I respect the sheer complexity of people like Aphex Twin when it comes to drum programming, but a lot of that just sounds slightly too random for me - complexity being done for its own sake. I like a bit of understated complexity that aids the groove more than a complete wig-out, although the sound of a drum machine falling down the stairs definitely has its own certain appeal... -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2003 17:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Not to nitpick but this remark is about InSync's Storm (brilliant record btw.) which is clever 909 programming not 808 :) On 1-dec-03, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK Plastikman - Afrika ? :) Regards, Ramon
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Agree with brendan's comments 100% Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) the funky 808 drummer More 909 than 808 as well, I'd say the bit of drum programming most likely to cause me to dislocate a knee on the dancefloor is Suburban Knight's The Art of Stalking... also, Spectral Nomad by Robert Hood ends up sounding nearly four times as fast as its real BPM due to the dense and inordinately funky drum programming Mr Hood came up with. I respect the sheer complexity of people like Aphex Twin when it comes to drum programming, but a lot of that just sounds slightly too random for me - complexity being done for its own sake. I like a bit of understated complexity that aids the groove more than a complete wig-out, although the sound of a drum machine falling down the stairs definitely has its own certain appeal... -Original Message- From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2003 17:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Not to nitpick but this remark is about InSync's Storm (brilliant record btw.) which is clever 909 programming not 808 :) On 1-dec-03, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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zapp's dancefloor i liked this track so much i did a rmx of it. you can hear it on my website. skinny puppy's reclamation i do not think this is an 808 but the programming of these beat kill me every time. i cannot listen to this track once, more like i keep hitting repeat, again and again. scotto lansing, mi plaztikjezuz.com
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I'd personally put hawtin above mills Im basing that off live 909 use though :\ this si a fun thread! - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though? -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2003 11:26 AM To: Michael Mitchell; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer I'd personally put hawtin above mills Im basing that off live 909 use though :\ this si a fun thread! - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though? Ok.. Now we're just getting silly ;)Besides myself, I'm sure that several people on this list have programmed a 909 and/or 808, most notably Fred Giannelli among others... There are several musicians on this list but that would be a topic for a different list :)
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opening a can of worms with that comment...have you seen mills play live on a 909??but yea they are both way beyond most anyone when it comes to programming a 909...lets just say they are both VERY good at what they do;-) michael www.renegaderhythms.com I'd personally put hawtin above mills Im basing that off live 909 use though :\ this si a fun thread! - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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well yes, of course I've seen him. he spins records really well but I almost gag when he steps to the 909 :) my motha can 909 better :p - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer opening a can of worms with that comment...have you seen mills play live on a 909??but yea they are both way beyond most anyone when it comes to programming a 909...lets just say they are both VERY good at what they do;-) michael www.renegaderhythms.com I'd personally put hawtin above mills Im basing that off live 909 use though :\ this si a fun thread! - Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer Chicago: real basic rhythms very crucial jesse saunders vince lawerence farley jackmaster funk chip e k-alexi marshall jefferson larry heard lil louis Detroit jeff mills rob hood james pennington claude young shake derrick may i love what trackmaster lou does as well and richie definatly has had his moments (plasticman anyone??) just a few although so many artists in detroit have great drum programming, i bet thats why we all love detroit techno so much!! michael www.renegaderhythms.com Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK
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i would have to agree with my fellow renegademany people on this list have programmed roland drum machines..when me and dave get together to make beats we program the 808 ALWAYS , not to mention a 606,626,707,727,R8, (not all at once) we don't have a 909 yet still waiting for the right price ;-)but i have played with one and programmed it ...most all of the roland drum machines are almost identical in the way they operate michael www.renegaderhythms.com Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though? Ok.. Now we're just getting silly ;)Besides myself, I'm sure that several people on this list have programmed a 909 and/or 808, most notably Fred Giannelli among others... There are several musicians on this list but that would be a topic for a different list :)
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Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that England has ever produced. http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough InSync tracks to say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want to sell? ;) ) but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what tracks* are your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? MEK Michael, ive got an mp3 of pomping world (which is most likely the reason they stated this about him in his bio... amazing!) by InSync. email me if you want it and ill ftp it for ya. derek.
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aphex twin's bouncing ball on the pi soundtrak is exceptional you can actually hear gravity...sonic representation of physical phenomenon also been tryin to hold it in...but anyone using an 808 or a 909 other than as a slave to another sequencer should be banned from making music...stiff...way too stiff | |b)
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- Original Message - From: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer opening a can of worms with that comment...have you seen mills play live on a 909??but yea they are both way beyond most anyone when it comes to programming a 909...lets just say they are both VERY good at what they do;-) Agreed. And Hood is even better (joke - ummm sorta ;)). In terms of productions (or live for that matter), for my drum programming peso, I will take Titonton. From the early 21/22 stuff through today, his swing has always hit me hardest. Not to take anything away from that, but I'm not really counting people who use drum loops prominently, so people like Carl Craig, Dan Curtin and Mills have already been chucked out the window. That's my interpretation of MEK's question anyway... Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ralf Gill wrote on Tue, 2 Dec 2003 about following: Any one here actually ever programmed a 909 or 808 though? yeah, i've done it. along with quite a lot of other roland drum machines.. not 909 though. 808 is just amazing, one doesn't even get near the funk you get from the real box compared to sampling it and making the grooves with computer. the real one has soul. really. and the kick drum is just MAD. sakke
