Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-10 Thread glyn
 Are there only 2, or is there a third?  And what's the deal with the weird
 radio stuff at the ends of those records?

those are great!  i love that little skit on the end of grain 2 with
Ralphy the keyboard-playing dog.

glyn




Re: (313) Tribal Techno/Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread lil' robbie
..as far as tribal goes im really into oliver ho,joel mull and the meta 
camp..im interested in knowing more on tribal techno myself..


I don't think that the Rave Scene is necessarily a great place for 
techno, although at the same time I do hope that techno DJs continue to 
infiltrate the rave scene and bring their own sounds to those who will 
listen--which is exactly why I play parties


..i honestly dont go to many parties that dont showcase techno..which often 
ends up with few parties that i want to go to..other than phryl parties 
http://www.phryl.com  i cant say i see many techno dj's at raves much..the 
last party i was at in detroit had one techno dj there..its definitely not 
mainstream and i feel that if techno was to become really popular it would 
have already happened..
..for some reason the techno heads get dubbed as the techno snobs because 
its not all happy to most ears and most of us feel very strongly about 
it..the same way in which the tech-step style of dnb gets dubbed as being 
liked by the angry junglists out there...techno has connected to any sense 
of mine or feeling at some point..to group all techno as being angry or dark 
would be ridiculous..
..most of the techno i see at club nights similar to motor..this doesnt 
bother me really but the obscurity of warehouse parties has a warmth in me 
for sure..why dont more promoters book techno acts anymore..even mills in 
toronto ,.he was the only techno dj in a room of house and trance...im 
assuming that there isnt that many promoters that care about techno because 
it might not bring in the type of revenues..im looking forward to see the 
turnout of phryl' party in detroit..disconnected which has billy nasty and 
umek..as well as detroit names..
..are there alot of techno parties goin on that im not hearing about in 
detroit cuz most of the stuff i hear about at actual rave parties is largely 
not techno..


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Re: (313) Tribal Techno/Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Ghetto TR-707
Come to Los Angeles where most of the raving population can't tell techno 
from the whole in their ass.  Misstress, Cari, Adam, come save us please!!!

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(313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread urban fox
Cyborg K asks:-

 I'd like to ask for any recommendations on the 
 best tribal techno records/producers out there 
 right now, things that are deep, dark, and
danceable.

Always difficult to be sure you have a common
understanding of other peoples terms but may I
recommend the following.

Samuel L Sessions (particulary on Cycle 4-7[swe]). 
This guy is blowing up massive atm.

G-Man (Varley) particular with Marco Carola on the
mix.

Stanny Franssen (particularly as G-Force) 

Q-Men (Cerrone) particularly on RILIS.

UMEK (particularly on tortured  CLS) 

All the above meets your criteria as I read it. The 
post purposemaker busy, clattering, poly-rythmic with
something (usually more than one) right across the
frequency spectrum was big last year. 

On a more laid back houseTech tip try Marco Carola,
particularly on Question  stuff on Tronic (swe). For
something similar but more fiery and urgent try Geatek
particularly on his ART label, Adam Beyer recent
offering (no really) on Geateks Conform label, stuff
on Design. There is also an American guy on a similar
style, maybe a bit harder and abrasive, Fanon Flowers.
His winter in Kalamazoo on Sonic Mind last year was a
revelation.

Mills has also dug out some wonderful thundering gear
in France last month. St Val  Urban Bushmen remixes
spring to mind. 

btw the latest thing to catch peoples ears now the
deep and dark tribal purcussive loops have become
(over) common is a style of Latin or samba techno.
Works exceptionally well on the 'floor. Still looking
for the source of this ..

Hope that helps.

E Fox

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Re: (313) Tribal Techno/Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread stephen
its definitely not mainstream and i feel that if techno was to become
really popular it would have already happened..

Well your right, it did sorta happen back in the early 90's, next time
your in NY ask Frainky Bones about Storm Rave.
Of course a lot has changed since then but I'm not ashamed of my raver
past, those were fun times..

..for some reason the techno heads get dubbed as the techno snobs

Really? you wouldn't know that from reading the 313 list.

take it easy,
stephen.



Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Simon Pascoe

Cyborg K asked:-

 I'd like to ask for any recommendations on the
 best tribal techno records/producers out there
 right now, things that are deep, dark, and
danceable.



And the Fox replied;

Always difficult to be sure you have a common
understanding of other peoples terms


Have to agree with that,

Can I recommend FLR - Easy Filters parts 1-2 on reel, one of my personal 
favourites, it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end.


sImon


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Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Cyborg K
Yeah, Fanon's cool, actually I'm from Kalamazoo and I love our homegrown 
Kzoo techno.  Even though many (most) in Kalamazoo don't know it exists!  
Actually, I'm really f*cking mad right now cus one of my friends has my 
Fanon records  my Sonic Mind records and two of my Black Nation records, 
oh, along with Punisher, Stacey Pullen, etc...  So I'm missing half of my 
Kzoo records and since I'm still poor I'm quite upset--I haven't yet 
determined if it was intentional or just an accident though.  Oh well, I'm 
much better with my live PA then mixing records anyway... *shrug*  Peace, 
Dave


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There is also an American guy on a similar
style, maybe a bit harder and abrasive, Fanon Flowers.
His winter in Kalamazoo on Sonic Mind last year was a
revelation.

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RE: (313) tribal techno/Kalamazoo

2000-03-09 Thread johno
Hi there (Haider?)Cyborg K,

Nice to hear from somebody from Kalamazoo. I recently interviewed Jay
Denham. Jay is such a nice guy and he has got interesting things to say. I'm
really wondering what Kalamazoo is like. If all goes well I will be visiting
Detroit and Chicago in May around the time of Carl Craig's festival. Maybe
we'll stop in Kalamazoo on our way to Chicago. Any interesting stuff going
on back there?


John 



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Yeah, Fanon's cool, actually I'm from Kalamazoo and I love our homegrown 
Kzoo techno.  Even though many (most) in Kalamazoo don't know it exists!  
Actually, I'm really f*cking mad right now cus one of my friends has my 
Fanon records  my Sonic Mind records and two of my Black Nation records, 
oh, along with Punisher, Stacey Pullen, etc...  So I'm missing half of my 
Kzoo records and since I'm still poor I'm quite upset--I haven't yet 
determined if it was intentional or just an accident though.  Oh well, I'm

much better with my live PA then mixing records anyway... *shrug*  Peace, 
Dave

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There is also an American guy on a similar
style, maybe a bit harder and abrasive, Fanon Flowers.
His winter in Kalamazoo on Sonic Mind last year was a
revelation.

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Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV

 urban fox wrote
 btw the latest thing to catch peoples ears now the
 deep and dark tribal purcussive loops have become
 (over) common is a style of Latin or samba techno.
 Works exceptionally well on the 'floor. Still looking
 for the source of this ..

I'd say that its reasonable well showcased on Richie's DE9 disk.  Road to Rio
and that stuff in the beginning.  I love what he does with those Grain records.
That's what I think of when I think of Tribal techno - organic super deep
drummy sh*t.  Tribal Cuts Vol 1, Grain, Cosmic, Bicknell, this stuff sounds like
it could have been recorded straight from the most wicked drum circle you never
heard.

J.





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RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Richard Hart
Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!

can anyone id this track?

It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:

http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram

comes in near the start 
after Reborn by Walt J:9:45


this track makes *everbody* shake their thang 
and its deep ta boot :)

Rich


Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV

Without even listening, I'm gonna guess.  killa bite?!? With the cut up vocal
sample Ooh Ooh Ooh.  Is that it?
J.



 Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
 I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
 seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!

 can anyone id this track?

 It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:

 http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram

 comes in near the start
 after Reborn by Walt J:9:45


 this track makes *everbody* shake their thang
 and its deep ta boot :)

 Rich



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Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV


 Without even listening, I'm gonna guess.  killa bite?!? With the cut up vocal
 sample Ooh Ooh Ooh.  Is that it?
 J.

er, wait, it goes ba-ba-badya-ba-ba!
that's the jam.  I've heard him play that often.
I don't have access to sound at work, so i can't listen.
I'll shut up now.

J


 
  Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
  I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
  seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!
 
  can anyone id this track?
 
  It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:
 
  http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram
 
  comes in near the start
  after Reborn by Walt J:9:45
 
 
  this track makes *everbody* shake their thang
  and its deep ta boot :)
 
  Rich
 


 --
 Knecht





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RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Richard Hart
no - thats Kiler Byte, got that one :)


Joseph Ross Lynn IV wrote:

  Without even listening, I'm gonna guess.  killa bite?!? With 
 the cut up vocal
  sample Ooh Ooh Ooh.  Is that it?
  J.
 
 er, wait, it goes ba-ba-badya-ba-ba!
 that's the jam.  I've heard him play that often.
 I don't have access to sound at work, so i can't listen.
 I'll shut up now.
 
 J
 
 
  
   Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
   I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
   seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!
  
   can anyone id this track?
  
   It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:
  
   http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram
  
   comes in near the start
   after Reborn by Walt J:9:45
  
  
   this track makes *everbody* shake their thang
   and its deep ta boot :)
  
   Rich
 


RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Scott Stone
Speaking of Grain 2, is that still fairly available?  I've been trying to
get my hands on it, but most of the distributors are out of it.  Any mail
order stores (or distributors) you can recommend?  I know Sonic Groove has
it listed, but it's not in the store.  The locked grooves on #1 are so much
fun.

Thanks,
Scott Stone
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 urban fox wrote
 btw the latest thing to catch peoples ears now the
 deep and dark tribal purcussive loops have become
 (over) common is a style of Latin or samba techno.
 Works exceptionally well on the 'floor. Still looking
 for the source of this ..

I'd say that its reasonable well showcased on Richie's DE9 disk.  Road to
Rio
and that stuff in the beginning.  I love what he does with those Grain
records.
That's what I think of when I think of Tribal techno - organic super deep
drummy sh*t.  Tribal Cuts Vol 1, Grain, Cosmic, Bicknell, this stuff sounds
like
it could have been recorded straight from the most wicked drum circle you
never
heard.

J.





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RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread g

Tribal Life
The Hayden Andre Project
Strobe Records 1991




Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!

can anyone id this track?

It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:

http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram

comes in near the start
after Reborn by Walt J:9:45


this track makes *everbody* shake their thang
and its deep ta boot :)

Rich




RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread g

try groovetech.  they had it...



Speaking of Grain 2, is that still fairly available?  I've been trying to
get my hands on it, but most of the distributors are out of it.  Any mail
order stores (or distributors) you can recommend?  I know Sonic Groove has
it listed, but it's not in the store.  The locked grooves on #1 are so much
fun.

Thanks,
Scott Stone
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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: (313) tribal techno



 urban fox wrote

 btw the latest thing to catch peoples ears now the
 deep and dark tribal purcussive loops have become
 (over) common is a style of Latin or samba techno.
 Works exceptionally well on the 'floor. Still looking
 for the source of this ..


I'd say that its reasonable well showcased on Richie's DE9 disk.  Road to
Rio
and that stuff in the beginning.  I love what he does with those Grain
records.
That's what I think of when I think of Tribal techno - organic super deep
drummy sh*t.  Tribal Cuts Vol 1, Grain, Cosmic, Bicknell, this stuff sounds
like
it could have been recorded straight from the most wicked drum circle you
never
heard.

J.





--
Knecht




Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV


 Speaking of Grain 2, is that still fairly available?  I've been trying to
 get my hands on it, but most of the distributors are out of it.  Any mail
 order stores (or distributors) you can recommend?  I know Sonic Groove has
 it listed, but it's not in the store.  The locked grooves on #1 are so much
 fun.

Are there only 2, or is there a third?  And what's the deal with the weird
radio stuff at the ends of those records?

J.


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RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread ryan burns


while were are trainspoting may's set...theres this track around 14min and 
30sec that ive been looking for...its got a house sample in it, and when 
it breaks these dope synths start coming in...does anyone know what track it 
is???

burns



Talking of tribal techno - one of the records
I've been hunting for a while now, one that Derrick May
seems to play almost every time he DJ's still eludes me!

can anyone id this track?

It's on Derrick May's set from the streetsound site:

http://streetsound.pseudo.com/specials/engage/may.ram

comes in near the start
after Reborn by Walt J:9:45


this track makes *everbody* shake their thang
and its deep ta boot :)

Rich


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RE: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Stewart Moroney
try www.fat-cat.co.uk they do a mail order service.

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 Speaking of Grain 2, is that still fairly available?  I've been trying to
 get my hands on it, but most of the distributors are out of it.  Any mail
 order stores (or distributors) you can recommend?  I know Sonic Groove has
 it listed, but it's not in the store.  The locked grooves on #1
 are so much
 fun.

 Thanks,
 Scott Stone
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  urban fox wrote
  btw the latest thing to catch peoples ears now the
  deep and dark tribal purcussive loops have become
  (over) common is a style of Latin or samba techno.
  Works exceptionally well on the 'floor. Still looking
  for the source of this ..

 I'd say that its reasonable well showcased on Richie's DE9 disk.  Road to
 Rio
 and that stuff in the beginning.  I love what he does with those Grain
 records.
 That's what I think of when I think of Tribal techno - organic super deep
 drummy sh*t.  Tribal Cuts Vol 1, Grain, Cosmic, Bicknell, this
 stuff sounds
 like
 it could have been recorded straight from the most wicked drum circle you
 never
 heard.

 J.





 --
 Knecht







Re: (313) tribal techno

2000-03-09 Thread Tom Churchill
[Grain]
 Are there only 2, or is there a third?  

There's three - the most recent two were FAT016 and 017 (both used to
superb effect on the Hawtin Dex EFX  909 mix incidentally). The first
one was a bit earlier (don't know the catalogue number off the top of
my head), and came with a 10 featuring another bizarre radio windup
and an odd reversed downtempo easy-listening loop...

 And what's the deal with the weird radio stuff at the ends of those records?

Apparently it's a hobby of his, phoning up local radio station
discussions posing as 'Graham from Redhill' or whatever and winding up
the presenter. The one where he says he's got a dog called Ralphie who
can play the piano is particularly amusing, as is the one where he
talks about pubs and snogging his nan...

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